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Pachter: Watch Dogs Was “Headed For Disaster” Before Delay

GR: "Watch Dogs was supposed to launch late last year, but Ubisoft opted to delay it at the last minute, a move Wedbush Securities analyst Michael Pachter believes saved a game that was "headed for disaster.""

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1OddWorld3748d ago

It sucked when it got delayed, but I believe they are shooting for greatness with this title.

UltimateMaster3748d ago

Article: "I admire them. Their stock got hammered. The management got criticized. And that franchise matters; it sounds really good. And if it doesn’t work, it’s a big waste of time and waste of money. So I’m hopeful that that six month delay makes that game great. But I think that was headed for disaster."

Here's what I think is f*cked up.

Ubisoft stock would drop because they care about the quality of their game when they release it on the market.

EA games are always rushed incomplete broken and or buggy games that people still buy regardless how much EA the publisher messed up the game.
Battlefield 4, Sim City, Ending to Mass Effect 3, Ryse Son of Rome is only 4 hours long, No single player story in Titanfall.
You see a pattern here?

jdiggitty3748d ago

@UltimateMaster

EA has a different model than ubi. For them sales and quality are only a small part. You have to consider the companies and ips they have acquired.

guitarded773748d ago

@ UltimateMaster

We all respect Ubi for doing the right thing, but 6 month more of development expense was what makes the stock drop. EA would/will and does face the same loss when they delay a game. The market is the same for all.

I'm sure every developer/publisher weighs the cost of more dev time, and patching. They end up doing what's best financially in most cases. Gone are the days of closed systems, and this has become a norm.

mwjw6963748d ago

@UltimateMaster

Ryse is 6 hours first off, and made by Crytec not EA.

Also Titanfall does not need single player. Who cares about the terrible single player of every multiplayer centric game? With COD I think only 5% ever finished it was the last statistic. Why waist time, money, and attention for something very little people care about.

UltimateMaster3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

EA has dead lines for games. Ready or not, it's getting released anyway.

I won't be paying 60% for BF5 because when I buy a game, I want it to work day one.
If it doesn't work well day one, then I would have bought it much later on until price has dropped and bugs are fixed and I'm still wondering how many month it will be until the BF4 servers are fixed.

EA has some of the best talent in the industry, but EA's pressure to release games and ways to implement new ways to rip you off *Cough* Micro-transactions *Cough* like in Ryse, you get 1 sword, 1 shield, 1 armor set, no option you either have to grind a lot or buy equipment. 3$~4$ for skin on your character, that's just a color change.

Or again the season pass for BF4 that again paid for and broken now, total 110$ wasted. Or the Need for Speed DLCs. Mobile platform rip-offs they are now focused on those Free-2-Play games.

badz1493748d ago

I don't know if the game is heading towards disaster or not but one thing for sure, it was poised to compete head to head sales-wise against AC4 which is not something Ubisoft wanna do. sure they should've seen that earlier but I was kinda expected either one of the 2 will get delayed and unfortunately WD was it.

UnwanteDreamz3748d ago

Shareholders are what drive corporations and their greed. They could care less if a game works as long as it is released on time and sells well.

Quality does not factor in their equasion.

UltraNova3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

@badz149

You seem to get it. I think one of, if not the most important reason Watch dogs got delayed was to avoid internal competition (AC4 and Watchdogs) on the same time frame. Plus the dev got another 6 months to polish the game even further.
As for potential game breaking issues unless the devs come out and say what was exactly so broken that they had to delay the game for 6 months I wont believe anything Pachter or any Pachter has to say for that matter.

NeoTribe3748d ago

Ultimatemaster, isnt ryse eon of rome crytek? Does ea sponser it or something?

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liquidhalos3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

I can't wait to play this, I'm genuinely glad they delayed it to iron out the bugs, we deserve a big game without hassle. Day 1 for me

liquidhalos3748d ago

Apparently someone disagrees that us gamers deserve a big bug free game. Okie dokie then

Aghashie3748d ago

Relax pal, people here disagree at everything for any given reason... So, don't let it bother u.

I am also glad they delayed the game. Quality is always beter than quantity :)

Truthandreason3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

Yup, you may not see anything wrong with this post but look closer. Some GTA fanboy is fuming that you would even consider buying watchdogs. There is no mercy on N4G as there is always an extremist who disagrees. Best not to care about votes one way or the other.

assdan3748d ago

I'd rather have an amazing game a few months later than a decent one a few months earlier.

ITPython3748d ago

I am excited for this game, originally my PS4 preorder was for the Watch Dogs bundle.

I might hold off on a day one purchase, as there is quite a few other noteworthy games releasing around the same time, and for all I know the game will be a bust. I'll keep an eye on what gamers have to say about it, and I will take all the mainstream media reviews of it with a grain of salt.

While not likely, would be nice to see a demo come out for it. Hate the fact that game demos are becoming a thing of the past, I have found many great games that I would never have considered by trying the demos. And since the demos are becoming extinct, I have gotten reamed many times buying games blindly.

Kryptix3748d ago

Can't wait to see all the new additions and features added to the game because of the delay.

Though, it might have angered gamers, I feel like it's for the best if they say they weren't ready yet. It benefits us that will be getting this game since it means that it's going to be more amazing than what we already seen.

TBONEJF3747d ago

You're right bout that. I'd rather buy a game that have no bugs in it. And the hell what Patcher thinks. This is a next gen game here. Someone or everyone needs to stop asking him what he thinks because he's a failure at being a anaylyst

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jay23748d ago

It should have come to next gen an pc only.

MasterCornholio3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

As long as the console can handle it why not?

If you want my opinion I believe that the delay was caused by development difficulties on one console.

You probably know which system I'm talking about.

Eonjay3748d ago (Edited 3748d ago )

Back in September:
Jonathan Morin, creative director from Watch Dogs, has spoken about the differences between the different versions of Watch Dogs:

"720p on PS360, 1080 on PS4, TBD on Xbox One."

Also

"Both hit 30fps easy. I think Xbox One suffers a few dips from 60fps. PS4 is pretty smooth. Definitive version." [the latter part of that quote was retweeted by Shuhei Yoshida.]

http://abload.de/img/ayqlpc...

So PS4 is smooth at 60FPS @1080P. Xbox One is smooth at 30 with resolution TBD. I'm thinking it has to be at least 900P if 360 and PS3 are 720P.

jay23748d ago

Because everything will have been toned down, and because the 360 doesn't do blu-ray more content could have been on there not just less compressed textures etc. A proper next gen engine could be built and things wouldn't have to be scaled back, also the size of the team on 2 consoles and pc vs 5 and PC would have helped as well.

razrye3748d ago

Then they would have sold less.

Neonridr3747d ago

No way that would ever happen. Ubisoft would be throwing millions upon millions away by shutting out the 360 and PS3 audience. Believe it or not but not everyone has upgraded to next gen.

160 million last gen consoles vs 7.5-8 million next gen.

Simple numbers. Do the math.

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quaneylfc3748d ago

The delay was the most exciting thing about this game. Just the unpredictability along with he mystery of why they delayed it.

I wouldn't say disaster i'd say a solid 8 score, which didn't seem to be enough. As it shouldn't!

MysticStrummer3748d ago

Yeah I would say it was headed for mediocrity more than disaster. The reveal was amazing but the more they showed the less interesting it got. Delays suck and all that, but if it makes the game better in any way I'm all for it.

quaneylfc3748d ago

Yeah exactly s'all good :)

snookiegamer3748d ago

Sometimes you gotta bite the bullet...no point releasing a game as hyped as Watchdogs to disappointment. Same for Driveclub :)

76erz243748d ago

I wouldn't necessarily call Drive Club a "hyped game."

beerzombie3748d ago

I love Xbox one but drive club I would say was a launch title that was hyped.

Baka-akaB3748d ago

Well it was stil hyped . Even unwillingly , some fans and the press were already trying to shoe it in , as a replacement to GT , for a "war against forza" .

Even when very little were released , and the only possible comparisons were graphics and the framerate

HammerKong3748d ago

drive club was never hyped preorders tell that ,it was a new ip and was discriminated buy critics very much at e3 ,they needed time but delay was which hyped this game ,now gamers think this will make game better i also thinks the same ,this will polish it and may be we can get a great racer .graphcs now look far better than before but rumors says that it is not running now at 1080p ,i think they sacrificed with resolution to add more effects and colors which is a good thing but it is also confirmed to be running at 30fps ,i hope it will look great .but i will still wait for reviews before getting it.

lostkey3748d ago

Why do I always feel like I could be a "game analyst" after I hear this guy talk?

wonderfulmonkeyman3748d ago

Just so long as you never go full Pachter...

Syntax-Error3748d ago

LOSTKEY, You do know he is NOT a game analyst right? Maybe you don't because you're not that bright. Did you not READ that he works for Wedbush Securities? Do you know what that company is? He's a numbers guy....NOT AN ANALYST

speedforce1313748d ago

Pachter is a financial analyst, so the way he looks at games business is different from how average people look at games.

andibandit3748d ago

Reason:

Because you assume hes a game analyst.

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The entire WatchDogs series is 87% off and it's not even Black Friday

If you are looking for a bargain, check out the huge discounts across the entire WatchDogs series on Steam.

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Watch Dogs Deserves A Remake, More Than Ever

With the world of information and technology, privacy and security growing every day, Watch Dogs deserves another chance in the spotlight, now more than ever.

RaidenBlack1008d ago

The only Ubi title that deserves a faithful remake right now is Splinter Cell 1.
All 2014+ Ubi titles are just underwhelming. Especially ones from 2016+ are just cancer.

LucasRuinedChildhood1008d ago (Edited 1008d ago )

Seriously, are we so far removed from Ubisoft actually making good games that people now praise Watch_Dogs in retrospect?

"Watch_Dogs has remained one of my favourite games of the last ten years." Jesus Christ.

HankHill1008d ago

I remember being so disappointed in Watch Dogs when I played it at release. It was alright, but I think I fell for the hype and I needed a game to play on my new PS4.

obidanshinobi1008d ago

This is what happens when mediocrity gets praised as good.
Standards are slipping across the whole entertainment industry.
What was once considering rubbish is now considered as OK, what once was OK is now being praised as good etc etc.

LamerTamer1008d ago

Everyone has their own likes. I liked it a lot myself. I played through it twice and liked the car chases and the open world with fairly decent environments and missions. It suffered from the whole downgrade thing where they showed graphics that weren't actually there. No game will appeal to everyone but it was still ambitious for it's time.

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gantarat1008d ago

assassin's creed 1 should get a remake.

ExBee1008d ago

For certain! AC1 was brilliant at the time but with new graphics and gameplay it would be amazing! Do you prefer old combat or new though?

RaidenBlack1008d ago

I'd say a reimagining of AC1.
I direct AC1 remake would be a bad idea. It'll need better story pacing and significant better world building.

BlaqMagiq11008d ago

Old. Let it play like how it did with AC2-Syndicate style gameplay but refine the setting and story.

Profchaos1008d ago

It would need a lot changed for it to be enjoyable again as even back in 2007 on launch we were all complaining about it's repetitive gameplay go here perform one of three side quests repeat then assassination now do it over and over until a big battle with a unforgiving checkpoint system.

BlaqMagiq11008d ago

Absolutely. It needs it. The only AC I truly didn't enjoy.

chicken_in_the_corn1008d ago

I'd prefer it didn't. Ubisoft would make it so bloated, it wouldn't be anywhere near the original

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smolinsk1008d ago (Edited 1008d ago )

Absolutely, this watch dogs legion was terrible boring.

Profchaos1008d ago (Edited 1008d ago )

As a fan of the franchise legion was garbage and I regretted my purchase for the first time in the franchise the entire thing felt like an experiment in NPC behaviour and released without the writers input on what makes a good story.

I don't think I'm alone in that feeling though as wrench and Aiden are brought back and the campaign was rewritten to fit them.

I am tempted to buy the season pass to play it again with Aiden but fool me twice shame on me I'm waiting for a deep sale

camel_toad1008d ago

Agreed. Despite the annoying hipness of the characters in part 2 I thought it was a really fun game. I was extremely disappointed and surprised at how many steps back they took with Legion. You'd think it was made by an entirely different team. Or was it?

It was just so devoid of fun.

LamerTamer1008d ago

Honestly one of my biggest annoyances with Legion is that they took out the camera views for the driving. I mean the behind the car view that they stuck us with is near unplayable. I always used a first person driving view. After two releases why did they take OUT features? I don't get it.

TheSinsibleOne1008d ago

The fist watchdog game was the best by far
After that they weren't weird and annoying with that hipster stuff. Aiden was a badass.

LamerTamer1008d ago

I thought so at first too. I got used to it and it ended up being good after some play time. I just had to give it a chance.

TheEnigma3131008d ago

Remake the PoP series from xbox/ps2/gc era

RaidenBlack1008d ago

They are remaking Sands of Time.

TheEnigma3131008d ago

That's good news. Hopefully it's done right.

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Inside the Driver game that died so that Watch Dogs could live

From VG247: "When cars slide, they leave tyre marks. In a game like Driver, they’re an aesthetic touch, part of the inherent cool of a handbrake turn. But those dark shadows in the road also tell a story. From tyre marks, you can determine the speed of a vehicle, when it started to skid, and its ultimate direction of travel – long after the car itself has vanished into the distance."

vallencer1073d ago

Different spellings in different parts of the world friend. Tyre is a correct way to spell it.

Pridefall1073d ago

Dunno why you got downvpted when tyre is correct in Australia.

mikefizzled11072d ago

The mystery that is En Fore Gee

neutralgamer19921073d ago

Give us driver San Francisco remastered

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen1073d ago

Why did they stop making some of the best games ever? Driver was one of them.

Gameseeker_Frampt1072d ago

Assassins Creed 2 showed Ubisoft how to make money and Far Cry 2 showed them that gamers don't like complex ideas. Now Ubisoft just turns out games that are just variations of the same thing.

WeAreLegion1073d ago

Best driving mechanics ever made. Nothing has come close.

Gardenia1073d ago

A story driven game with pure driving gameplay. I'd love to see a new Driver game or a remake of the first one.

ApocalypseShadow1073d ago

Yes. This one. A definite remake of the first without adding any ridiculous fluff. The first game had great physics and sound for its time. The start of the car in the beginning cinema I watched constantly. My father and uncles were big muscle and classic car freaks. Only thing crazy about the game was the relentless cops in the last level. Insane the way those police cars were and launched at you.

Bleemcast made it look better just like PC emulators. But would definitely take a remake.

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