Rumor: Resolution-Gate Coming to a Ubisoft Game Near You?

Karam Elahi reports: "Thuway, a well-known industry insider and outspoken gamer – in the vein of famousmortimer and others, has made quite a controversial statement regarding an upcoming Ubisoft game...The recent comments below lead us to believe that the Ubisoft game in question could be Watchdogs, which is the only big multiplatform release coming within a few months. We’ll just have to wait and see."

[Alexious]

Watch Dogs seems the most likely candidate, indeed. Following the trend, I think PS4 will get it at 1080P@30FPS, and X1 720/900P.

[Manic2014]

I think 900p 30fps more likely for xbox one similar to Assassins creed: Black flag (Still look's gorgeous on both). PS4 1080p 30fps.

[cyguration]

I'm sorry but ACIV on XB1 had HORRIBLE framerate stutter and a lot of effects issues. It really didn't look gorgeous on both. It did look gorgeous on PC and PS4, though.

I had to ask a friend if he was really playing the next-gen version and not the 360 version upscaled. I couldn't believe they let it out of the door with that kind of FPS instability.

[Aleithian]

@cyguration

Was the X1 version fixed with a patch, or does it still have the fps issue?

[dmeador]

@Alethian

Either I played a patched version or I somehow made it throw 40 hours without problems

[Manic2014]

@cyguration

Well i've got both consoles but the game for PS4 it looks great it also had frame rate issue's when i got it at launch, my mate's got the game on Xb1, i remember he told me it's got some performance issue's but recently it has been working fine, the game itself in my opinion still looks great on the xb1 even though it's at 900p and but i can say it look's better on ps4.

[cyguration]

Well, if it got patched that's pretty good. Still, the resolution and framerate issues were enough to get me to wait for the PC version.

[amiga-man]

Maybe we should ask Panello? he is sure to give us a straight answer, lol

[Bigpappy]

I am playing AC: Black Flag right now. Started a week ago. Though I don't like the gameplay and wish I had not bought it, there are no performance issues: No slow down; no texture pop in; no stuttering. Gameplay is boring to me as I am forcing myself through it in one hour burst, hoping it gets more interesting.

[BX81]

I never had an issue with frame rate with AC on Xbox one.

[MasterCornholio]

Thats the trend recently. I'm guessing that its the Xbox One that will get the downgrade like Assassins Creed 4.

[lifeisgamesok]

The difference isn't enough to be considered a downgrade

[pyramidshead]

@life

Downgrade no, but a symbol of inferior hardware beneath the bonnet, yes.

[Hicken]

How is HALF the framerate and/or displayed pixels not significant?

People keep wondering why PS fans harp on the difference in these games. What I wonder is why these people weren't saying the same thing all last generation, when the differences were even smaller. More balling is how the very people who trumpeted that superiority last time around are doing their best to make an even larger performance gap out to be insignificant.

[kopicha]

@life

you can debate all day but wont change the outcome. It is like someone with 770 GTX telling someone with 780 GTX that there is no downgrade in their gaming experience. They are "identical" when clearly 780 GTX is more powerful and run the game better.

[kopicha]

@Hicken

agree... during last gen when the difference is so minor that you literally need to pay attention to pin point the differences, and when 360 has the "slightly better" version, PS3 owners are being called inferior and being the worst console ever made. And now that this generation the gap is this huge, PS4 owners suddenly become bitches when any comments being made and now that 30vs60 does not matter or 720vs1080 has no difference. Much Hypocrites?

[Sarcasm]

I don't see how 50% less resolution or 100% less framerate "isn't a downgrade"

You get more and more ridiculous.

[nategrigs]

I'm a ps4 guy, but I think there is being too much made of the performance differences. I hate to say it, but we (ps4 owners) are starting to sound like the pc guys.

Games can still look good at slightly lower resolutions/fps.

[N4Gpower]

AC4, better on Xbox one Fanboy

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/ne...

[sigfredod]

I agree

[pyramidshead]

Proving even more so that PS4 definitely is offering more bang for your buck. Especially if a trend like this carries on for the entire year, which proves possible seeing as watch_dogs is a game that has already been delayed once for polishing. Perhaps Xb1 experiencing problems?

[BX81]

Depends on what you're looking for with your buck really. If you want something that plays games at the best quality possible then get a PC because this gens hardware will start to get dated quickly. If you don't want to worry about upgrading then go with the console that has the games you prefer. To me the games are the bang for the buck if you will. I'm into story/gameplay more than graphics. I prefer the Xbox one at this point but no doubt for me uncharted is the best game series.

[HammadTheBeast]

Quick question, what is resolution-gate?

[ambientFLIER]

A play on words on the Watergate scandal. Basically fanboys and trolls making a mountain out of a molehill because some launch Xbox One games are running at a lower resolution than the PS4 versions, much like last gen launch PS3titles were running lower than 360 ones.

[scott182]

^
yes but the reason for the resolution difference last gen was very different. The cell was extremely difficult to learn and program for, pretty much for it's entire lifetime in the ps3. That's why fans were a bit pissed at devs last gen, albeit not justifiably, that they weren't taking forever to make it on par with the 360 games.

The difference this gen is strictly power of hardware being very much in sony's favor, with unknown reasons for micro skimping so much in that department. Also the differences in resolution seem to be far greater this time around.

So you could say Xbox fanboys were taking a small difference last gen, and blowing it way out of proportion so they could rub it in ps fans faces. And this gen PS fanboys are taking a large difference and making it seem what it really is... With Xbox fans comically changing their tune completely about what is important "Play the games, not the resolution" give me a break.

[ambientFLIER]

The Cell is complicated to program for, yes, but then again, so is the ESRAM. It will take time for parity. In a year or so things should be better.

[scott182]

^

Difference being, the cell was the grand part of the ps3's architecture, games lived and died by it. The ESRAM makes up a very small portion of the X1's overall ram bandwidth, regardless of how well it's programmed.

And last gen you heard devs specifically blame the cell for the problems they had, I have heard no talk of the ESRAM causing as much difficulty.

[Redempteur]

"The Cell is complicated to program for, yes, but then again, so is the ESRAM. It will take time for parity. In a year or so things should be better. "

No , it's not hard to program. the problem is elsewhere as their architectures are similar. you can't program around a clear power difference.

There will indeed come a time when games will be able to output at similar resolutions but given that they have a similar architecture , any improvement on memory management , will be used by both consoles. This unfortunatly the truth. At this point the difference will be in the amount of effects on screen or elsewhere. but the difference will show.

[Eonjay]

Its a scandal where Microsoft advertises there system as being able to play 1080p 60 FPS. Then they are unable to come through and in most cases games look better or run at hight framerates on competing consoles. Gamers recieve lower fidelity experiences but are required to pay more for their hardware.

[solar]

but console gamers from before the last generations say "graphics don't matter". why do they matter now? from the day i joined N4G (2007) it has been about the "games".

oh that's right. because Sony has the more powerful system (with that tablet CPU). now i get it.

[liquidhalos]

Really, says the dude with the troll comment

[cell989]

oh because youre butthurt your system of choice sucks major @$$ this time around? Its still about the "games" but its nice to know youre playing awesome games at 1080P when possible. The Ps4 allows more games to be played on 1080P which to me is a great feature and make my $400 purchase that much better

[thezeldadoth]

the rabbid disagrees on his comment doesn't make in untrue. This site is quite disgusting now.

[nategrigs]

You make a valid point. Maybe its because the consoles launched at the same time, so direct comparisons made more sense. Last gen, the ps3 versions looked worse, but the 360 had been out for a while and was better understood by devs.

[mayberry]

I, for one, have always been about da' graphics and resolution, and when a new console comes out, it's the primary thing I look for! 47 yo gamer from odysee days in '77! neo-geo, 2600, and on and on..

[DeadlyFire]

Dude its not about the CPU its about how its programmed. PS4/XB1 can measure up to a Mid Range PC with the same specs better than most would expect.

[zerog]

Guess you forgot that both consoles have x86 cpus that its the gpu and ram that gives sony its advantage. Also you pc pushers are still sad looking at the specs and saying "well my pc has the same or better" while completely ignoring the fact that spec for spec consoles out perform pcs, especially after a couple years when devs learn the systems. Last gen with a paltry 512 MBs of ram produced some absolutely gorgeous games with studios like naughty dog doing amazing things but show me 1 pc with that small a number that can run an uncharted game the same as a ps3. So far no one has.

[thezeldadoth]

do you guys not get bored arguing for years about slight differences in the same game across multiple boxes?

[AceBlazer13]

can't be as bored as the guy commenting about it.

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

"An outspoken gamer"

More like an outspoken Sony fanboy. Funny how people think these guys talk for all of the gaming community.

[neoMAXMLC]

I love the sweet sweet smell of damage control and denial in the morning.

[TheXgamerLive]

Cyguration is an idiot fanboy. Watch any video even digital foundry almost the same frame rate and Xbox One generaly looked better. Go watch now. Sorry but slightly higher rez doesnt mean it looks better and it doesnt. Again go watch now. I did.

[neoMAXMLC]

Strange, Digital Foundry seems to think otherwise.

"On that note it's clear that the PS4 game is the definitive release of Assassin's Creed 4 on the console formats...

Despite its failings in image quality and some occasional drops in performance, the Xbox One version still delivers a worthy upgrade over the 360, PS3, and Wii U versions for owners of Microsoft's new console, although we hope that the unsightly sharpening filter can be disabled on system-wide level in a future update."

[assdan]

It's probably going to be 900p with lower textures, AA, etc. That's what it's looking like most games will be. It's not really resolution-gate anymore. It's more like ps4 is getting another tally mark.

[XiSasukeUchiha]

Nice

[MasterCornholio]

Not for those who suffer the downgrade though.

[ambientFLIER]

Master -

What exactly is it that you contribute with all your comments? You always seem to have undertones of trolling and xbox bashing in your comments. Just sneaky and hidden enough to not get called out for it...

[Ricegum]

I think ambientFLIER has been stalking MasterCornholio.

Oh oh.

[quaneylfc]

That was quick.

[MightyNoX]

Not exactly. An insider on Neogaf has been hinting at it for weeks.

[pyramidshead]

Thuway could post it on gaf but probably hasn't got two confirmed sources. He's only recently be unbanned too. Either that or he just hasn't gotten around to it yet.

[mmj]

I've been saying that it will affect pretty much all multiplatform games for months.

Quite simply the difference between GPU's in PS4 & Xbone is like the difference between a Mini Cooper and Bugatti Veyron... just looking at the specs on paper it's a fairly safe bet to say the PS4 will always run significantly faster.

[imt558]

Probably 900p for Xbone!

[Kavorklestein]

Probably 900p for PS4 as well, until they patch it like they had to with AC Black Flag.

[LeCreuset]

Why didn't they patch the Xbox version?

[Idba]

They patched bc of ms's day one parity contract. Same thing with cod ghosts

[Heisenburger]

I trust facts, not rumors. I don't mean that rudely. There is too much garbage to *trust rumors, imo.

I treat them all the same: I don't pay them any mind unless they are proven true. Wild internet speculation isn't a pass time that I indulge in.

[ABizzel1]

@Heisenburger

I agree, but some rumors are highly fiesable, and those rumors are the ones you keep a mental note in the back of you head just in case.

Ubisoft has Assassin's Creed and Watch Dogs which are fairly similar games design wise (being open world). AC4 runs 1080p @ 30 fps on PS4, and 900p @ 30fps on XBO. It's not that hard to believe that Watch Dogs will run at those same resolutions, especially considering it's coming to PC, PS4, XBO, Wii U, PS3, and 360 just like AC4 did. They don't have time to focus on optimizations for both consoles when they have 6 platforms to hit, and So they're going to get it running on PC, and then port accordingly.

IMO it would be better to just lower the settings down a notch on the XBO, to prevent the resolution wars / fps wars, if I were MS. Only things like LensofTruth would affect them (having seen them on n4g in a while).

[hardcorehippiez]

yea but thats one way around microsofts dumb parity clause . shame the one isn't patched up to run at a higher resolution. wonder why that is hmmmm

[Kavorklestein]

Wow why so many disagrees? I'm not saying it's not gonna be better or worse or ANTHING bad about the PS4, I'm just saying they may have to do a similar thing to what they did with Assassin's Creed Black Flag.... Some people are way too sensitive, if they took a simple statement like that as an attack.

[supraking951]

720p for xbone plz

[Manic2014]

You seem a little desperate.

[starchild]

That seems a little pathetic begging developers to make another console's version worse just so you can feel better about your console purchase.

[Why o why]

Even though thats a sad wish to have, maybe just maybe more possible occurrences like this will put to bed the notion that the consoles are as close as some still profess. Obviously the difference isn't as wide as some would hope but all now, some of you x1 supporters still wont admit defeat on the power aspect. Until they do they'll just have to endure people shoving the tangible proof in their faces.

Sad but some, not all, but some of you guys asked for it. Throughout the whole of last gen team x lauded minute differences in multiplats. Not only is shoe is on the other foot this gen but the differences are far greater than last gens differences ever were.... extra crow

[jmac53]

Everyone assumes Watchdogs but what if it was Rayman Legends.

[MasterCornholio]

Xbox One running a 2D sidecrolling platformer at sub full HD resolution?

I don't think that will happen.

[torchic]

if it's Rayman Legends then Microsoft should just retire from the electronics industry.

[MightyNoX]

Your comment is glorious.

Seriously, though, it being Rayman Legends is too silly.

[ambientFLIER]

Rayman Legends runs at native 1080P/60FPS on the Xbox 360...

[Rickgrimes95]

Has to be watch dogs without a doubt in my mind every gameplay video is running on a ps4 they never showed xbox one footage

[Hyper_Tension140]

YOUR WRONG!! Microsoft did show some gameplay in their official youtube channel....oh wait!!!

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I have no doubt this is in reference to Watch Dogs. That said F'OFF SpawnFirst.com for trying force visitors to Like your facebook page with a pop up roadbloack face book "like our page" window with no close button so you need to do it other wise you cant read the page. I will just follow @thuway on Twitter instead of reading your site in the future.

[Half-Mafia]

Upcoming games I can see having differences.

Destiny
Witcher 3
MGSV
The Crew
The Division
Dying Light

and maybe small differences in Thief.

[TIER1xWOLFPACKx]

Theif doesn't run at 1080p on Xbox one recent rumour that has been floating about

[DigitalRaptor]

Just say "every major upcoming multiplatform game".

It would save you time.

[pyramidshead]

Think the witcher devs have come out saying they'll be no difference actually. Kojima also confirmed that it'll be 1080pnative60fps on both. The rest I agree with.

[ABizzel1]

Then more than likely the settings will be the main difference. PS4 will likely be High or Mid-High, XBO will likely be Mid settings.

[superbhoy]

CD projekt are cosy with MS so im not so sure about the witcher 3

[AgitatedOcelot]

Honestly people might as well accept it and move on. Most if not all multiplatform titles are going to be superior on the PS4. It's just a fact of life, and you can't get around a 50% power increase in the hardware.

Remember what the only 1080p games to come out on the Xbox have had to sacrifice. Forza downgraded the graphics so hard from E3 that it isn't even funny. And Ryse is an linear corridor beat em up with abysmal gameplay and framerate dips almost into the single digits.

The only exception is Need For Speed, and it's just not very graphically demanding and watered down to the same level for both consoles.

[Edsword]

It's watchdogs, almost assuredly. Makes sense, it's probably running on the same engine as AC4 with some upgraded effects. While I feel bad for xb1 owners, I am glad to see that devs are not holding back the PS4 version for the xb1. At least not in resolution or framerates.

[Nocando]

I remember getting upset when the Ps2 was holding the first Xbox back on multiplats, though to a much larger degree because the Ps2 was way weaker than Xbox. Good that the devs are focusing on both.

[BitbyDeath]

That was quite minor compared to the difference between PS4 and Xbone.

[OrangePowerz]

Watch Dogs is using a new engine and not Anvil next according to Ubi and by the looks of it it doesn't look like the AC engine because it is too pretty. Nothing against AC4 I love it, but the Anvil engine doesn't hold up anymore to newer engines.

[EXVirtual]

Yep, definitely Watch Dogs.
My prediction:
PS4-1080p@30fps. Xbox One-900p@30fps

[starchild]

Yeah, and that is fair. The PS4 has more performance than the XB1 and they can use it to run at a higher resolution. Either way the game should still look great and be an enjoyable time for gamers on either platform.

[MasterCornholio]

As long as their isn't a huge difference in performance (like Tomb Raider) both versions should be equally enjoyable.

[vickers500]

These kind of articles worry me. Obviously we know ps4 is the more powerful console, every game with a difference has like 10-20 different (but exactly the same in terms of content) articles for it. Are we going to see 10-20 articles per game for every single multiplatform game that releases from now on?

Oh god, this will be like those thousands of "ps3 vs 360" "lens of truth" articles, except x10, because now there actually is a big difference in terms of multiplats. :(

[quaneylfc]

It got boring about 2 months before the consoles came out.

[imt558]

Quote :

"Obviously we know ps4 is the more powerful console"

Major Nelson, Penello and a lot of Xboner's denied it.

[DigitalRaptor]

When the high-profile Xbox employees like Penello and Larry were spreading defensive and desperate lies, going out of their way to sign up for NeoGaf to tell those lies, and then being called out for them, it deserves a lot of conversation. And the shaming of these people doesn't deserve muting for the sake of the convenience of others.

Especially, when those people have not committed to apologising for their lies, acknowledging them and in many cases, Microsoft employees are still trying to downplay the gulf performance. I know it's marketing, but it's still bullsh*t.

When these lies are trickling down to the fanbase who are defending inferior technology, it deserves to be talked about.
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@ Vickers500

Well said, but If I ever have to continually lie to people who are responsible for keeping me in business, just so I am able to keep my job, shoot me. My problem, as I said, are those that continually spread the lies or don't acknowledge that they told the lies. If you work for a large corporation, you have a lot to answer for if you go onto a gamer forum and tell desperate falsities, get called out, and flee from the scene.

I don't need to be "acknowledged as right". I think that people who are wrong need to acknowledge that they're wrong. They should have more respect for their consumer base than to lie to their faces on a consistent basis.

[vickers500]

Does it really matter to you that people WHO WORK FOR MICROSOFT (meaning, people who are never, nor should ever if they want to keep their job, admit the competition is superior) come out and say the ps4 is more powerful?

Does it really matter to you that trolls and people who are willfully ignorant of cold hard facts admit that the ps4 has better specs?

Who gives a crap about them? If they've heard the truth and/or know the truth but secretly choose to ignore it or not believe it, then why is it so important to beat them (and by extension everyone else) to death over the head with the truth? Does it really matter so much to you to be acknowledged as "right"? Let it go, these peoples opinions became meaningless the moment they saw the facts and chose to deny them (or started working for MS), drowning everyone in a flood of useless articles that we've all seen a hundred times will not change that.

[vickers500]

"I don't need to be "acknowledged as right". I think that people who are wrong need to acknowledge that they're wrong."

That's fine to an extent, but at what point will it come to an end?

I sure as hell don't want to see the same 20 articles per game over and over again for this entire console generation, I don't even want to see them for the first 2-3 years.

I mean we only really need 3 TOPS for everyone who gives a crap about this information to know what's what (maybe 6, 3 before so people will know to hold off on a specific one, and 3 actual, "scientific" comparisons on the FULL game), but the rate at which we get these amounts of articles needs to slow down a lot.

I think sometimes people just make these articles so they can have a public discussion in the comments section (since it seems very few actually visit the forums).

[cell989]

I clearly remember Private Larry coming up with statements like "cant wait for the truth to come out" "the xbone is the most sophisticated console to ever grace our homes" and Penello saying "no way we are allowing Sony to have that much of an advantage on us blah blah blah" then you get Dan saying "xbone does 1080p(upscaled) in all games" "the cloud will boost the power of xbone by 10 fold blah blah blah"

So when tangible proof comes out with everygame release that their statements were pure bull$hit to get people to buy their console, excuse me but Im going to call out these gentlemen and explain to us exactly what their statements meant?

[Arkardo]

It's the Xbox 1080 not out yet?

[Ko_Uraki]

People have to calm down :)
900p is not bad, and 720p by now is not a disaster. Ryse is amazing at 900p.
Everyone know that, for XBOX ONE, things will not change for, at least, some months and that, even if One is able, sometime in the future, to handle this graphics without problem, PS4 will remain more powerful.
Is it a tragedy? I don't think so. One is not the Wii U. It is a good console with nextgen graphics.

Yes, consolewar is fun, PS fans wanted a revenge on 360. I understand everything. But we can't get a shitstorm every time that they release a multiplatform game . It's insane.
It never happened with the huge hardware differences between PS2/XBOX/GC or PSX/Nintendo64.

[OrangePowerz]

It happened plenty of times when 360 multiplats looked or ran better.

[imt558]

Quote :

"Yes, consolewar is fun, PS fans wanted a revenge on 360. I understand everything. But we can't get a shitstorm every time that they release a multiplatform game..."

As long Penello ( and other people like him ) say otherwise ( like yesterday about Tomb Raider difference ), there will be resolutiongate or framegate.

[LeCreuset]

Exactly. If people like that shut up about it and we all just assume that Xbox is going to run inferior versions of multiplats, then fine; no need to point it out. If that's not the assumption, then it does need to be pointed out whenever there is a difference.

[Arkardo]

Amen!

[Dehnus]

Karamsoul: Only Spawnfirst and you would go "Karam Elahi Reports" about himself.

Seriously man, I know you hate that blasted piece of crap called Xbox One, but stop faking it by now. I know Gamers are overreacting idiots (Seriously Resolution and Framerate are not things to add "gate" behind. But all of the media does that these days, so that poor Watergate hotel...).

But just admit it already and stop defending it like you did earlier also to people that "boohoohooo we got that image because ..." when you even defended liquid flowing upwards. (Rather than just listening to the people who say it might have been a blown capacitor ro spoiled drink).

[quenomamen]

Will these articles never stop ? Will the this game would not even be possible without Teh Cloud comments by Devs ever stop ? No they are both connected. If you cant stand being told how much your system is weaker or stronger then you might want to stop coming to not only N4G but all gaming sites.

[LeCreuset]

Exactly. It's not like these articles aren't relevant. Some people will dig into the trenches and defend, defend, defend no matter what, even if it does bother them deep down. Some people will genuinely not care, for whatever reason. That's all fine, but that's them. That doesn't mean that these differences aren't relevant to other people.

It's really hypocritical to see the same camp that beat Sony gamers over the head at every opportunity with these same arguments now saying that they don't matter and shouldn't be addressed. Every perceived Xbox advantage and Sony disadvantage was used to go in nonstop on Sony and Sony gamers.

It's a shame when rightful analysis and criticism of some company is now played up as trolling by people way too invested in a corporation, especially when many of those people had no problem getting downright petty last gen. I'm sorry, but if MS presents an argument that's full of holes (Greenburg just yesterday), it's going to be pointed out. They don't get to just throw whatever out there and have it go unchallenged because feelings may (though they shouldn't) get hurt.

[Robearboy]

Yawn - I have an Xbox one, I also have a PS4 - BOTH consoles offer me the same amount of enjoyment , why? Because I like to play games -

[corvusmd]

As long as it looks and runs as great as AC4 who cares....this game will be AWESOME!!!

[Jovanian]

30 fps is still pretty pathetic, and I can guarantee you there will be sacrifices to graphical quality, lack of anti aliasing, what have you. 1080p is nothing to brag about.

[ajax17]

I DON'T CARE! I just want to play it!!! And by "it" I mean Watchdogs... and the Division...

[mmj]

SHOCK, HORROR AS CONSOLE WITH SIGNIFICANTLY INFERIOR GPU RUNS AT SIGNIFICANTLY INFERIOR FRAME RATE AND/OR RESOLUTION.

[Virus201]

How is Thuway a reliable source? He was banned from NeoGaf for being unreliable.

[twdll]

People need to really get a clue. Framerate is what makes the most difference. Anything in the 20's and below is unacceptable. 1080 vs. 720 on a 55 tv from 6 ft away is unnoticeable. I have a ps4 and Xbox one and all games I've played are fantastic on Both systems. Each system has adv. and disadv.

[I4arted]

Ahhhhh and so another my resolution is better than yours story.

[Bearsfanfourlife]

So what I'm playing games resolution don't matter ps3 started the same way and I enjoyed it get over it

[Improv]

Why are the developers being blamed for weak "next gen" consoles? If they can't properly do 1080P for really graphically intense games (for Xbox One nearly all games) how is that the developers fault? They're not magicians. They can't magically make the consoles more powerful.

[spoonard]

I can't wait till we are in the midst of GateGate!!!

[urwifeminder]

Still don't really find anything of much joy in Ubi softs new line up the crew maybe but that's about it for my tastes even that game I wont get at launch.

[bornsinner]

we should be at a stage to reach 1080p 60fps for all games with high texture quality not 900/1080p 30fps medium quality.

the only thing that does that is the steambox... and pc obviously

[clouds5]

If they implement the gamepad in the right way, wii u will be the best version and the one that I'll buy. Open world games are just phenomenal with the gamepad. I'd take gameplay improvements over a few more pixels any day. On Consoles at least. If I'm looking for graphics i go with pc version.
If I'm playing assassins creed or skyrim with 360 controller i could throw that thing through a window every time I have to scroll though stupid menus with the dpad or even worse, the sticks... wiiU solves that problem.
I'm mainly a pc gamer Btw and i have to say that because I'm not wii u bashing but not a Nintendo fan boy either, they made mistakes. Yes people like me exist!

[TruthInsider]

Xbox 360ne

[russo121]

If I had bought a xbone, deception at this time was more than certain.
There are no miracles to solve xbone power - ps4 is more powerful and xbones adopters need to deal with it, sorry, but that's the truth.