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Nintendo should "get out of the Wii U business" - Pachter

The Wedbush analyst sees Nintendo ditching the Wii U and pulling a Sega, but only for a limited time before it launches new hardware

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Activemessiah3770d ago

Pachter should just get out entirely.

BlackWolf3770d ago (Edited 3770d ago )

I agree.

Eonjay3770d ago

I disagree. He doesn't want Nintendo to fail; so he is giving advice he believes will save the company for another day. Better then letting the Wii U cause further damage to Nintendo's bottom line and profitability.

Skip_Bayless3770d ago

Patcher is correct here. Nintendo fans need to be come back to reality.

sinjonezp3770d ago

I as well feel that Nintendo should cut the wiiU like Sega did the dreamcast. I love nintendo and bought every system except for the wiiU. I always see so many disagrees on here when people say that Nintendo made mistakes with the wiiU. Well guess what, the numbers dont lie. Going from 9 million forecast to 2.1 million is quite significant. They should start r&d on a new product and just continue software support for.the wiiU. Just my opinion

DC7773770d ago

Oh please these are some of the worst ideas I have heard. It's like everyone is trying to con Nintendo to get their games on some phone or other platform any more. Sorry, you want you buy. Nintendo sells mostly their own games and that's all money in the bank and the reason they're sitting on 13bil.

All they need to do is get the big games out and advertise right and it will surely be profitable. Not saying it will "win next-gen" or anything but who cares when most of the game sales are your own.

Chris_GTR13769d ago

I could see this happening years ago. The name Wii u is just so stupid that's why their not selling people hear Wii u and assume its a new version of the Wii and now a whole new console

Chrischi19883769d ago

Save the company? Man, you no nothing about it and neither does patcher. Nintendo is a bigger company as Sony is as a whole right now, how is it saving the company, if they get out of Wii U business? The next console will flop for 100% because people will not buy a console again from Nintendo, if they release a new one a year after the Wii U or 2-3 years after that. How does it help? It doesnt, because even the biggest ninty supporters wont buy it, who else is there then? Will you buy one? I bet you wont. So stop this nonsense. How is becoming a Third Party developer saving nintendo? It doesnt, it will lower the quality of games, just like with Sega games nowadays, they are not bad, but not what they used to be, during times where sega made their own consoles. This talk about going third party or making a new console will definitely not help, it would hit nails in the coffin, of course thats what all of you want, but it is very egotistic to think that way.

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Fel083770d ago

Took the words right out of my mouth.

diepdiep3770d ago

And his supporters need to wake up because he makes the most ridiculous "analyses" that are always wrong.

3-4-53770d ago (Edited 3770d ago )

Nintendo is going for in between cycles.

PS4 - 2013

Nintendo - 2016

PS5 - 2019-20

Nintendo - 2022

It will be something like that.

This way, every 3 years we get a " new gen", because in those three years Nintendo could afford to put in better specs than the PS4 even, so instead of waiting 8 years for the "next gen", and better than PS4 graphics, we can wait another 3 and get them.

And then we only have another 3 years after that for the PS5 and such.

I kind of like the idea.

stragomccloud3770d ago

Nintendo isn't really going for anything. Nintendo has always released consoles either 5 or 6 years apart. Sony and Microsoft were the ones that over extended the last generation.
NES:1985
SNES:1991(6 years since last console)
N64:1996(5 years since last console)
Gamecube:2001(5 years since last console)
Wii:2006(5 years since last console)
Wii U: 2012(6 years since last console)
Next Nintendo console: Probably 2017(5 years after the release of the Wii U)

In fact, I'm calling it. November 20th, 2017.

Retroman3770d ago

PATCHTER should do a DREAMCAST pull out for awhile come back with REAL facts.

Mithan3770d ago

The WiiU is crap. It isn't going to do well and is essentially "done".

If they had brains, they would drop hardware and switch to a software company, releasing their games on Xbox, Sony, IOS and Android.

stragomccloud3770d ago (Edited 3770d ago )

Just because something is doing poorly, doesn't mean it is crap. Also, just because something is doing very well, doesn't mean it's good. If you are one of the many who truly can't find anything good about the Wii U, then I truly pity you, for you and many others have forgotten what it means to be a gamer, and what it means to game. If hardware issues are to blame, then I believe you should ask a PC gamer just how well a PS4/Xbone stand up to a real gaming PC.

My point is simply this. Gaming really is about the games, and the experiences they bring. If you truly can not find any merit in their wonderful array of diverse games because of hardware concerns, then perhaps you need to rethink your hobby. Because their games, are worth the price of entry. Most PS4/Xbone games I can get, or will be able to get on my gaming PC, which has no issues of backwards compatibility mind you, since there are no generations. I can not get Nintendo's exclusive content anywhere else; however, so it is every bit worth the investment.

Mithan3769d ago

stragomccloud:
From a sales perspective, the system is crap.

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Hicken3770d ago

Not yet Pachter. The system isn't doing wonderfully right now- holiday sales notwithstanding- but there's still the time and opportunity to turn it around. By the end of this year, though, the Wii U needs to be in a better position.

theWB273770d ago

The system is doing horrid right now. They just lowered their outlook on the WiiU from 9million down to 2.9million shipped/sold. Their financials went from a projected gain to projected losses.

With that...the PS4/X1 is only starting. What's going to happen when people see more of Sony n Microsofts juggernaut titles? When 343i and Naughty Dog show off their next gen titles? What's going to happen when you can't buy more and more 3rd party titles on WiiU?

It's not just turning it around...they have to make up massive ground and try and halt the momentum of the PS4 and X1 while still being outsold by the Xbox360.

What better position can the WiiU be in by the end of the year?

Crillvirus813770d ago

It's not doing horrible it just had its best month ever in the us in December it sold more then it did in its launch month nov dec combined ...and 343 and naughty dogs titles won't be here till the end of the year if they even make it well halo will but uc4 maybe ....wii u doing just fine remember these numbers still include stat from last years first 6 months sales that where horrible but since august wii u has been putting up great numbers so of course they will be a little bad shit the 3ds was the best selling console all around and still didn't sell what they figured it would ...that's why there numbers look bad cause they figured it would sell more but they didn't lose money out there pocket like ms who spend billions on red rings or Sony who spend money when they got the yellow lights or when psn was hacked ..and had to sell some building property to stay a float lol

theWB273770d ago

@Crillvirus
If a product sells 10units a month for a year and then has a month where they sell 15 doesn't make it any less horrible. It's a spike.

I know those titles are some months away, but gaming is an investment. We buy our systems cause we like the developers and what we think they'll deliver for the life of the system.

They lowered their projection from 9million to 2.9million. The actual company did this. That's bad however you choose to slice the numbers.

Their numbers look bad because their numbers are bad. Period...math is a pretty definite science. 2+2=4 no matter what.

They're losing money on every WiiU sold. They're losing money with every WiiU that sits on teh shelf. They lose money by not hitting their projected marks.

You're rant is pretty incoherent and lacks some decent knowledge.

LOL_WUT3770d ago

From Iwata's recent statement

"Wii U sales, on the other hand, showed some progress in the year-end sales season as we released various compelling titles from the summer onwards, launched hardware bundles at affordable price points and also performed a markdown of the hardware in the U.S. and European markets; however, they fell short of our targeted recovery by a large margin. In particular, sales in the U.S. and European markets in which we entered the year-end sales season with a hardware markdown were significantly lower than our original forecasts, with both hardware and software sales experiencing a huge gap from their targets."

I don't see how that classifies as doing wonderfully the 3DS on the other hand is a whole different story. ;)

lilbroRx3770d ago

Yep, price cuts did nothing as has been stating.

The biggest boost game from software alone making you wrong as usual. Thanks for quoting something that counters you long running mantra.

animegamingnerd3770d ago

wasn't doing something like this is what caused sega to leave the console industry?

lilbroRx3770d ago (Edited 3770d ago )

Actually, Failing with 3 consoles in row, discontinuing 1 console early causing people to be distrustful of the company, and poor management decisions:ie. making people who were doing good for the company the fall guys when bad stuff happened(like Hidekazu Yukawa and Yu Suzuki) is what caused SEGA to leave the console industry and plummet in both finance and popularity.

So actually, yes. Doing what all of the Nintendo haters are crying for Nintendo do is what killed SEGA's console division.

BlackWolf3770d ago (Edited 3770d ago )

Maybe that's why they want Nintendo to do it? Wouldn't surprise me. But being realistic, who wants any company to fail? Competition brings the best out of the companies.

animegamingnerd3770d ago

nintendo and even sony and microsoft need to look at sega as example on what you don't do during a console's life

ipach3770d ago

no, sega left the console industry first and had no choice but to salvage its IPs by publishing them on other platforms.

also, the dreamcast scared a lot of publishers once it became widely known that games could be easily copied/pirated. you could argue this may have been the biggest reason sega/dreamcast lost all support and left the fight altogether.

MegaRay3770d ago

I think Nintendo should give the 3ds a break and focus on the WiiU more.

lilbroRx3770d ago (Edited 3770d ago )

Why would Nintendo want to give something successful a break? That makes no sense. That's just as stupid as when people say they should stop relying on their old franchises, which annually gross more than any other games franchises on the planet.

What Nintendo needed to do is open more studios and contract more developers to make games for them which they are doing. They just bought a new second party dev last week and their were the big hiring pushes that happened at Retro and Monilith Soft weeks before that.

Nintendo has been stepping up Wii U development for a while now.

xXBlondieVanHarlowXx3770d ago

I don't think he meant literally drop support on the 3DS, he meant they should focus a good chunk of their 3DS attention on the WiiU.

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gk073770d ago

the game is early still time

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno10d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."