Titanfall Has a Maximum Player Count of Six vs Six

There have been rumors and hints floating around, especially due to the demos showcased at several industry events, but today Respawn Entertainment co-founder Vince Zampella confirmed on Twitter that Titanfall's maximum player count will be six versus six.

[Irishguy95]

WAT!?

I was really looking forward to this. Why only 6 vs 6? Alright it might not actually be that bad. Have to play it first. Maybe it's because of how quick paced the game is. Small squad based combat. Like gears, Uncharted, Rainbow 6 vegas, **** like that.

Sarobi, I was expecting like 20-30 total players...but thinking about it now...well, it depends on the size of the maps and how many players it takes to feel like the map is full of action. Since its so quick paced, 6 v 6 might be the limit specifically due to the pace. Otherwise it could end up a bunch of headless chickens shooting at anyone from any angle(Yes even right above you even if you're standing in the open). We'll see though, no previewer has mentioned the maps feeling empty or anything, and 6 v 6 works for alot of games...

Well, March, i'm waiting for you.

[mikeslemonade]

Haha.. but maybe that's what contextually made sense.

[Kingthrash360]

wow that kills it. i could'a swore i seen more people playing on them demos and trailers. man that kinda really takes wind out of titanfalls sails.
smh
im sure tf will be great but as its a online mp only game i thought it would support more players.

[blitz0623]

I'm surprised. Judging by the videos I've seen I thought for sure there were more than 12 players

[ginsunuva]

Trailers know how to make it look chaotic.

Players' movements are choreographed to make lots of people show up on the screen constantly.

[Eonjay]

Most of the players you see on the map are AI bots. They aren't actually real people. Thats what the cloud is used for. Its to generate AI characters to fill the map. The low human count is to make sure that all players can sync the AI with the cloud. The purpose is to populate the maps with players without taxing the Xbox CPU. Its actually kind of clever but I can understand people concerns.

[jukins]

Supposedly the game has "minions" or bots like league of legends which is probably why people thought the player count would be higher when looking at vids.

[Agent-86]

@Eonjay, seriously, all the other players are AI bots? What about the PC version? Surely it can handle more than 6v6. C'mon Respawn. This is supposed to be next-gen. AI bots are so 1990's. We want human players. Give us at least 12v12 and cap the number of Titans on each side. Then we could have a good mix of Titans and soldiers on a map.

[badz149]

6v6?? what is this? are we playing in the freaking desert? get it? too little cloud?

[dedicatedtogamers]

Sure sounds "next gen" to me.

Seriously, the hype for this game has been smoke and mirrors up until this point. Why be surprised?

Can't wait to see people spin this. My goodness, 6 vs 6 is less than current-gen CoD.

[UltimateMaster]

12 players multiplayer for an online shooter?
Killzone 2 and 3 had 32 players.
Starhawk had 32 players.
Resistance 2 had 64 players.
Battlefield 4 has 64 players.
MAG had 256 players on the same map.
Planetside 2 has 2000 players on the same map.

Titanfall only has 12? The Titan has fallen indeed.

[Eonjay]

Well, Killzone has 24, BF4 has 64. MAG had 256, Planetside has 2000. I can't think why TItanfall would be limited to 12. Maybe the bots are to give the illusion that its not another COD.

Edit... you stole the thoughts right out of my head UltimateMaster... I guess thats why you are... UltimateMaster lol

[Eonjay]

@Agent-86

Believe it or not, Respawn kinda said this months ago during an interview back at E3. They didn't say it was 6v6 but they did say that the maps had AI characters that were controlled by the cloud. Its in the SAME INTERVIEW WHERE THEY SAID THAT THE GAME REQUIRES THE CLOUD. There I just made it really easy to find.

[BattleAxe]

Well, as an oldschool Socom fan on PS2, I loved 8 vs 8, so this might not feel too much different from that.

[dedicatedtogamers]

The odd thing is the inclusion of AI enemies. There are only 12 players per match but AI enemies (that NEED the CLoud powah, according to Respawn).

So, why use AI dummies instead of...you know...real players? Why not open it up to 8v8 or 10v10 on these big maps?

If they're filling up empty space with AI bots, it tells me the game is being held back by hardware limitations

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

First disappointing news about Titianfall. I was expecting 12 vs 12 at least. Respawn chose to make it 6 vs 6 for a reason. Only way to find out why is to play and see if the map size and the game's fast pace is what dictated the max player count. 6 vs 6 is small especially for a next gen game.

Edit: Oh, so there's A.I. Now I'm a bit confused. Why not just replace the A.I. with real players?

[scott182]

@BattleAxe

Agreed 8v8 worked very well for socom and similar games, but that's more of a corridor crawling, strategic type game (which I love). Titanfall seems like all out war going on. It still looks cool but 6 vs 6 seems a little odd, could work though...

[Z_-_D_-_3]

I could've sworn this game was going to be 32 players on PC and Xbone with big maps. Pretty disappointing. If this would've been announced from the jump, hype for this title would have gone way down.

[Irishguy95]

Did somebody say Hardware limitations?

You know, BF4 (with 64 players) is on the X1 as well. It's not a Ps4 exclusive. Clearly not hardware related. Mag had 256 players on Last gen. Believe it or not, Player count is not that taxing on hardware. Unless it's a very high number.

However, this is still dissappointing for me. I don't get it. I'll have to wait and see. Pretty funny seeing excuses and pretty funny seeing attacks on the game. Its as if 6 v 6 means the game is now bad or last gen. The same people will probably defend the last of us' 4 v 4.

Can someone explain the bots in this game? Are they just normal bots, or are they under the players command or something??

[imt558]

Killzone : Mercenary has max 4 vs 4, but this...

[ALLWRONG]

UltimateMaster Delta Force had 64 players in 1997. What's your point?

[Eonjay]

@Irishguy

Check out the gameplay video. The AI are used to build the atmosphere of a greater conflict that is going down during your match. However, they are more than just wallpaper and create new senerios during the battle (such as needing to defend a certain location for a brief period of time.) You can shoot them or take damage from them. Zampella referred to a balance between AI and player count, and he found that 6v6 was the limit. I hope that helps

[creatchee]

You could make a 32 player version of chess, but that doesn't make it a better game.

Seriously, when the hell did player count become an indication of quality? By that logic, MAG should still be going strong instead of having its servers shut down.

[Kingthrash360]

mag had less hype budget and on a last gen system.
by your logic youd be ok if it was 2v2 goldeneye style. plus ms has 5000000000000000000000 servers right? smh go ahead and defend this but excuses are excuses ms bosted server power...where is it?

[P0werVR]

Well, if some of you had a brain you would have noticed the obvious. They've ALWAYS emphasized this sense of mutliplayer, co-o gameplay and why 6v6 would make sense. Also one of the main factors that showed this to be very obvious is the use of Cloud Computing for the AIs. They've already stated it's going to be similar to Forza's Drivatars. So yes bots, but very smart bots that play just as good as real players. IMO

[TheGreatAndPowerful]

Can't wait for PlanetSide 2 to come out for the PS4...2000 player battles will be freaking epic!

[nix]

i loved the warhawk 32 players online fights. it was just too awesome probably because the game had huge maps.

[Prime157]

Wait, I'm confused...

What's this about cloud dependency for titanfall? I thought that was x1's thing. It's also coming out on 360 and pc, so the way I see it is that, yes it's easy to implement on pc, but not so much 360. However, with pc, they aren't behind the live paywall, so why give pc cloud capabilities?

Live should have never been subscription based? Or what other inconsistencies justify this? Seriously, I'm only wanting someone to help me understand the differences between the 3...

[minimur12]

power of the next gen cloud....

thats pretty stupid tbh

[JeffGUNZ]

I think we need to start seeing some actual gameplay. It may make sense and feel right, but I think it's time we see some live gameplay and not an "E3 presentation gameplay".

[nukeitall]

Player count taxes the server and the internet connection.

Last I checked, Mag had 256 player count. It sucked big time.

BF4 has 64, and I didn't buy it!

Player count has never been a selling point for me. It has all been about experience, experience and more experience!

If 6v6 gives the best experience I am in for it.

I find it ridiculous that people stick to pixel count, and player count as a measure. I suspect the vast majority don't care and will enjoy this game like no other.

None of the people tried it and reported back has ever complained about the player count. The only thing I hear is, it is amazing and I went right back into the 3 hour line after trying it.

[mewhy32]

I'll be playing this on 360 so 6 vs 6 is reasonable. However, I would expect that the xbone release would allow more players. Much like the case of Battlefield 4 has increased number of players in online matches.

[Fluke_Skywalker]

@Allwrong

I think you just proved his point.

[Reibooi]

If it's tight and designed to be played with this many people I don't think it will be a issue at all. The original Gears of War for example had people complaining it was only 4 on 4 but the game and maps made that number of players ideal. Assuming Titanfall is the same then it will still be a awesome game.

[MWong]

That looks insane, then what have we been seeing so far? I mean I thought it was a MP only game, why do we need AI bots anyways? I was at least expecting 12v12.

[ThePope]

@ultimatemaster

How many of those games does anyone still play? Player count does not a good game make. Or so Yoda would say...

[loulou]

@dedicatedtotrolling

what hardware is holding it back?? the pc?? because it is 12 players on that platform as well

you heard it here first folks.. pcs are not powerful enough for titanfall

[memots]

thats bad Mkaaaay? ..

Hopefully Pc will allow some of those bots to be played as human. This makes no sense.

[RedDevils]

That next Gen right there!

[Concertoine]

If the game is designed around 6v6, than i dont see anything wrong with it.
more players doesnt inherently better. I can name old PC games that were much better on a competitive level with less players rather than more, and titanfall is clearly designed as a competitive game.

[Jughead3416]

Yea but 6? That seems pretty low. I could see if that was the 360 standard. But for next gen systems, that seems pretty low. It must be a great experience to pull off a fun 6 vs 6. Those maps have to be tiny.

[Concertoine]

They probably are, but if that's what works, it works. Games like quake 2, counter strike and others which still retain a competitive community today, are often kept at low player counts. Also as taboo as it is to bring up COD, search and destroy is often considered the most intense and competitive game mode and also has a limited player count.
Its just hard to retain a competitive level when you have games like battlefield with 64 players. It usually dumbs down to a handful of players carrying a team on those games.

[Agent-86]

@Concertoine, I thought it was already confirmed to be running at 720p on Xbox One. I was going to get it for PC, but I may pass on it now with this disappointing news. If this is a $60 MP only game, then I'll really be disappointed.

[Concertoine]

@Agent
yeah i just found that mark rubin statement saying its 720p, edited my comment to reflect that. I assumed just some neoGAF guy said it was 720p and people assumed he was right, but no one can argue when it comes straight from the horse's mouth.
And yes i hope with knowledge that its not a particularly impressive looking game, and it runs at 720p, and it's limited to 6v6 (though this doesnt bother me it does take less resources to run) that this is a budget game and not $60

[SilentNegotiator]

I fail to see how a game designed to put players behind a limited number of giant battle robots could be designed for mere 6v6 matches. You'd expect to need several players to work together to take them out when another isn't available.

And the trailers have been incredibly deceitful. They were clearly trying to make it look like a bunch of players were all in one match.

A Microsoft exclusive from EA with a bunch of smoke and mirrors? Gee, couldn't have seen that coming! TEH POWA OF TEH CLOWDZ!! /s

[dedicatedtogamers]

You talk about "the way the game is designed", and yet Respawn is packing the multiplayer maps full of AI opponents to make the battles seem more...epic, I guess.

So, how can that be the way the game is designed? Why fill up the map with AI instead of real, human players?

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

@Concertonie

Normally you would be correct. If the game is designed around 6v6 then let it be. No point in cramming more players in just for the sake of it.

But here's the thing, the game has A.I. meaning it's more than just 12 players roaming about. Respawn could just lower the A.I. count and replace them real players. Maybe the A.I. have an important role that just can't be left up to the players? Only explanation I think of.

[MestreRothN4G]

@dedicated

CoD games were always 6x6 based. Why would this entry be different?

But seriously, the bots are probably there to help dictating the games' pacing and objectivity. Lots of devs don't put too much people because the game turns into chaos. With bots you can 'tweak' the game progress.

[Prime157]

I agree with you that it depends on the game, but the videos we have seen so far have led us to believe otherwise about the player count.

Edit: I think we need to know more, this just brought about a lot of uncertainty. See it in action...

[frostypants]

A game like The Last of Us works with 4v4 because it is slow paced and about pure survival. Titanfall is a fast paced FPS from every bit of footage we have seen. The fact that they are adding AI bots tells me that the game needs a lot of players to be involved for it to play right. Just knowing that the person you are playing against could be an AI bot will kill the experience for many.

This is ludicrous. It's almost as if they intentionally limited the players to make room for AI bots so they could give "teh cloud powah" something to do, for the sake of marketing. I can't think of any other explanation. It would be simpler just to have 12v12 human players.

Lame lame lame lame lame x1000.

[Imalwaysright]

"I fail to see how a game designed to put players behind a limited number of giant battle robots could be designed for mere 6v6 matches. You'd expect to need several players to work together to take them out when another isn't available."

My thoughts exactly. This design choice makes me wonder what is the point in having "titans" on the game.

[theoneb]

That's officially the nail in the coffin for this over hyped game. I never understood what all the fus was about. I have been playing Starhawk since its release. When I saw Titan Fall it just looked like a first person version of that.

Maybe it's because nothing like Starhawk is on Xbox but Titan Fall doesn't even have demanding visuals for a next gen game. I really wanted to see what everyone else saw but could only think, Starhawk does the same thing, lag free btw.

Now with news that its only 6v6 I'm really confused about what they plan to accomplish. For people who played it MAG is one of those games that can be epic with a good team. The player count was really high but that came at the expense of pretty graphics. I figured since Titan Fall wasn't very pretty for Next gen standards that it would have the massive scale similar to MAG. I was obviously wrong.

[chazjamie]

counter strike was 5. one of the best multi player experiences i ever had. You shouldn't doubt this game until you spent a few weeks with it.

[fanboybeatdown]

@theoneb

"That's officially the nail in the coffin for this over hyped game."

WTF?
Did you really just write that?

The game is not out yet and you posted your arbitrary uninformed personal opinion as THE official nail in the coffin?

Comments like yours are the reason the n4g.com community has such a bad reputation across the net.

[GTgamer]

So its a only MP game and only has 6vs6 they must be allot of AI running around because those gameplay vids we saw made the map look full :/.

[DVAcme]

This is the main gist of the issue, I believe. If the game had a campaign to back it up, the 6v6 MP wouldn't be considered as much of an issue(see Gears Of War), since the MP would be an added value to the whole game package. Hell, you could have MP on campaign, like Borderlands and Destiny. But when you have an MP-only game, it needs to be held to a different standard, and a higher player count is expected. FPS MP gamers don't wanna be killing bots, they wanna be killing other players. This is supposed to be an FPS, not a MOBA.

And speaking of which, I give it a month before people are raging over being killed by the AI in the game instead of human players. It'd be like being killed by a minion in a MOBA, only worse because the game would is being played by FPS fans, who have no experience with that scenario.

I dunno, the more I hear abut the gameplay elements, the weirder this game seems to me. It's like this will be to multiplayer what Ryse is to single-player: more of a pretty technical demo than an actual meaty gameplay experience. And Titanfall needs to impress, cause it has some steep competition already and more on the way. Killzone, COD and Battlefield(which even with its myriad problems is still being played heavily, and ironically would mean EA is competing with itself) are already out, and Planetfall, Destiny and Halo are on their way. Titanfall may very well be a disappointment waiting to happen in a genre that buries failures hella quick.

[Agent-86]

I was going to get this for the PC, but if it's only 6v6, I may pass on it. Sounds like it's just going to be COD with mechs. Getting tired of the small maps with twitch shooting. Give us bigger maps, more players and some objectives. Might have to wait for Titanfall 2. Or, maybe, DICE could give us a 2142 sequel.

[GordonKnight]

@MAXWELL SMART

These articles should cause this game to be delayed, which would be good for the game. This way they can make it with 12v12 or 16v16?

BUT XBONE is rushing all thier early exclusive games to try and made a big exclusive library to make-up for the lack of power & higher price.

[malokevi]

I'm still excited to play the game, but I'm extremely disappointed by this news. One would think they could have a few different game modes, built with higher player counts in mind. My hype for this game just died a little. Looks like I have to keep my eyes set on Destiny, Halo 5 and Sunset overdrive for (hopefully) a large-scale FPS experience.

[Agent-86]

Got to agree with you. Destiny is looking better and better. 6v6 with AI bots just doesn't interest me.

[hellzsupernova]

I find this article hilarious. 6v6? Next gen? Wtf?

[Rimeskeem]

Well knowing EA maybe they are trying something new and easier then 32 v 32 so that they have less chance of screwing it up

[cell989]

knowing EA maybe they will introduce a DLC pack witha higher player count game mode to get that nickle and dimming spirit going. At this point IMO Titanfall is a beta test for Titanfall 2.

AI bots are very disappointing they will either be way too perfect with their one shot pinpoint accuracy kills or dumb down enough to allow players to boost stats easier. BOts can also become very predictable after some game time.

I hope your K/D is not affected by AI bots, and just the thought of not knowing if youre playing next to a real player or a bot is very discouraging.

What kind of minimum specs are we expecting for PC? since PC gamers wont rely on the all mighty cloud to help out churn out those AI bot cycles and routines. What about the poor x360, how dumb down the graphics will have to be to manage a suitable game experience?

The maps!! how big will the maps be to balance 12 players in total? are we to expect COD style maps? thats very lame, Im tired of that kind of gameplay where its just spawn/run/gun/die/spawn/run/gu n never caring about objectives or team support.

so many questions yet to be answered

[princejb134]

I think is limited to 6 vs 6 because it's also been designed for the xb360
I'm sure if it was xbox one exclusive or lc the number count would go up
But AI in my opinion. Is not the way to go. I played shooters like cod with AI and the AI usually knows where I am such as shooting around the corner before I even get there, or randomly turning around and shooting me

[Volkama]

Quake 3 supported 32 or more players. The competitive scene was 4v4.

Counterstrike supported more players. The competitive scene was typcially 5v5.

Halo has "Team Slayer" and "Big Team Slayer". Cos bigger numbers isn't always more fun.

The AI in Titanfall are bots, but they are not intended to fill the role of other players. They are a new mechanic, an innovation (for better or worse).

Incidentally the demo versions from previous shows were 7v7.

These numbers don't dampen my anticipation in the slightest, because I'm looking forward to the skill and fluidity in motion more than anything else I've seen about the game.

I just wish I was seeing more interesting weapons.

[quaneylfc]

It is definitely the Sony fans trying to console(get it?) themselves because they don't have it. that's what Fanboyism is, people hating things they don't have so they can feel better. since when was 6v6 bad? it's from the creators of COD and no one knows how big the maps are. it's funny because no one is thinking of Titanfall 2 because they think it will have more players, it won't because that would contradict the reason of "it's more fun with 6v6."

If you are a simpleton you can complain about it being Titanfail and it is shit but the AI is obviously making a difference, not only to the "mental" playing style of the game but to the expectations of a Multiplayer game. this for me is accomplished by DICE with battlefield, whenever I can get into a game on my own (I hate playing Multiplayer games on my own.) I don't think of it as Multiplayer as much as an open world game that is easier to play. Titanfall will be the same, you will go into each game relaxed like you are starting a single player level instead of thinking of all of the "real" players coming to get you.

to all the Fanboy arseholes trying to ruin it for me: I get it and i can get the game, you can't for both- YOU DON'T GET THE POINT OF AI AND YOU CANNOT GET THE GAME...so stop voicing your incredibly naive opinions, ta

[UnHoly_One]

I saw this comment on a different article about this announcement and I thought it was well written and deserved to be repeated, due to all the insanity I'm seeing on here over this.

"So let me get something straight. This is the exact same Titanfall that won all the awards at E3. The exact same Titanfall that everyone who has played it, has raved, and raved, and raved about how utterly amazing the game is. The. EXACT. SAME. Titanfall.

The ONLY thing that has changed, is now you are AWARE that all gameplay has been locked at a low number of players. But it’s been locked at a low number of players all along. None of that stopped the game from being awesome, nor stopped everyone who has ever played it, from raving about it, nor stopped it from winning dozens and dozens of awards it has already racked up.

It really amazes and saddens me, how gamers so easily put so much faith in arbitrary numbers, and so little faith in the creative, professional talents of some of the best devs on the planet, and their ability to craft awesome and fun games to play. It’s this blind love for arbitrary numbers, is why it is becoming increasingly hard to have good things in this hobby."

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

Irish guy was expecting 20-30 total players. Jesus.. ya, because E3 and all the other game shows showed 6 vs 6 and no more than that, yet you expected and the rest of the Sony bots have expected 20-30 people on this game playing.

Uncharted has very little player count and is great MP. Same with Gears of War and other games.

Sony faithful am cry today for a game they are scared of. If this was on the PS4, everything would be ok.

[360ICE]

I was really not looking forward to this, but this sounds like the first non-gimmicky thing I've heard from the game. More excited now.

[voodoochildnyc]

99% of the people in this comments section havent played titanfall.

99% of the people in this comment section think they know more than people who make a living making fun experiences for ungrateful armchair critics.

1% of people in this comment section waited several hours in line several times just to get some more precious time with the game.

Conclusion?

99% of people in this comment section and all related sections need to calm the hell down until they've seen and played it for themselves. After that you can hate all you want! Though I doubt you will...

regards,
-the 1%

[fanboybeatdown]

Thank you for your informed response.
I am glad that we have real gamers like you left on this site. I can't fathom how you got disagrees.
I am totally looking forward to this game as a result of your actual gaming experience.

I recall that TLOU had 4vs4 mp, but none one complained. I don't get it.

I play starcraft2 and it is loads of fun 1vs1 and 2vs2. In fact, I prefer less players and more accountability for each player. Too many players just feels like an anonymous twitchy click fest without any real strategy, in my opinion.

It is sad to see so many of the n4g community react like spoiled children over this news, when the game is not even out yet and hasn't been played by them.

[classic19]

yeah, its a preference thing, but i expected somewhere around 12v12, hell 10v10. i know you have mechanics running around but bro come on 6v6 tho. tragic.

[dale_denton]

so last gen lol outdated exclusive.. keep it ms

[nirwanda]

If everyone goes and reads the gameplay preview of titanfall they would realize that at the end of each game everyone has to either escape to a helicopter or gun down the enemy, so 6 v 6 sound like its been done for gameplay balance at the end of the match.
If you had 64 people running to a helicopter it just wouldn't work.

[Evilsnuggle]

This is my biggest problem with the x1. I have been worried that it will hold back all of gaming back because of its weak specs. X1 is last gen+++ . All the crying xboiz I play games not numbers now your games has low mp numbers. I hope EA don't gimp the pc version because of the xbone. What's the difference between x1 and 360 better texture models that's it. This is why I won't buy the xbone I own the OG xbox and 360.

[Breakline]

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."
- Albert Einstein
Reminds me of this quote. It's incredibly shallow to just look at numbers and condemn a game. I think it could be an excellent idea. Let's just wait to see how it actually works out when we play it.

[Raiden]

More is not always better, 6v6, sounds great to me. More games more kills no waiting in the lobby for the next gamer. But i believe you wont notice the difference between bots ai and human.

@ultimatemaster your list of gamers and player count is great but smaller groups are more fun faster. Not say large groups aren't fun too, but let's see what the game is really like then we can all go negative on it.

[jayswolo]

Titans came roam in AI mode. Plus the AI soldiers on the ground. I think 6 vs 6 is reasonable. Because technically there could be 12 Mechs and 12 players on foot. That's a lot of action going on. Then you have a good amount of AI soldiers.

[ChickenOfTheCaveMan]

I was so jealous of you X1 guys for getting this as I am PS4 and now I feel for you guys. Make it popular, rage about the 6vs6 and Titanfall 2 which will probably be also featured on PS4 will have a 10+vs10+ that makes sense.

Still, this is a real downer.

[trancefreak]

This is interesting and If you need AI Fake Player in a MP game maybe a single player campaign would solved that.

6vs6 is a joke as of now. I am sure the game will get glowing reviews but despite how I fell about the player count i will have to give the game the a proper play to make any real judgment.

[Sarobi]

Hmm... I can't be the only one who was expecting a larger number.

[Agent-86]

I agree. Sounds like its just going to be COD with mechs. Hugely disappointing news.

[RGB]

6v6 MP makes Titanfall irrelevant before release.

720p on Xbone with only 12 player maps... JEEZ!

Back to BF4 64 player on China Rising! LOL

[Deathdeliverer]

I'm not going to lie, this is a gut punch from hell. It's the main reason I got a launch day xb1. Just in case a beta or something popped up I'd be ready. The disappointment is deep for me. I was picturing a bigger battlefield spanning across a city. For 6v6 to be fun the maps have to be small to ensure that the real players constantly meet up. Nobody wants to end the game with all their kills being on bots. I already have the system so I really am more or less stuck getting this game. There is nothing else on the horizon for me on xb so that was my next purchase. Please let this game find a way to still be awesome.

[jocomat9]

buying a system for one games is crazy. You really should have waited to purchase the console and game if the game got really good reviews atleast.

[chazjamie]

i bought a ps 3 just for mgs. its not crazy or anything.

[MestreRothN4G]

COD... COD never changes...

[classic19]

i was thinking around 12v12, myself. ppl on youtube was the 360 is holding it back. i say hell no it wasn't, bf3 run 12v12, in it's 3 years old. 12v12, should have been nextgen standers. but hey the ppl who is making this game once was cod games so they luv the hole 6v6 action.

[SlavisH2]

Lmao wtf happen to the cloud? Puff up in smoke. what a f@# joke. Better not be pc better be x360.

P.S. I'll wait to see what the other sites say before i cross this off my list.

[True_Samurai]

What does the cloud have to do with how many players on the battlefield? If they wanted more they could just allow more players into the server. 6v6 with AIs sounds good

[Ju]

Because the general census was this game makes extensive use of the cloud - e.g. runs all AI on the server (cloud) to free up resources for the console and one justification this isn't running on non-ms platforms. Now, with all that, it still can't run more than 6x6 - now read the comments in the twitter - this isn't a design issue. The reason is "the best balance with AI" which means it has performance issues beyond that.

[ginsunuva]

They have to cater to the 360 remember?

[torchic]

the 360 version is apparently being done by another studio.

[wcas]

Respawn would not launch their new flagship title and limit it to what the 360 can do. It is being nerfed and limited because of what the X1 can't do. Respawn can thank EA who made a deal behind Respawns back for that. TF exclusive to X1, 360 and PC. There have already been rumors circulating of Respawns issues with X1. That is why MS is updating drivers to try and squeeze what they can out of the X1 to help.lol

[OhReginald]

ha in the trailers they made it seem like 32 players.

[Concertoine]

Probably because people would react the way they are now lol. As long as the maps and features are designed around 6v6 and its as good on a competitive level as they claim, then im even more excited.
It better be 1080p 60fps on xbone though, with only 12 players.
@GTgamer
it hasnt been confirmed 720p, but i still wouldn't be surprised if it was. what the hell is the deal with that console?? i mean the wii u has more visually impressive games running at better framerate and resolution.

[GTgamer]

But I thought its only 720p?

[wcas]

All rumors and indicators point to 720P. X1, gaming power is lacking but hey you can watch TV, Skype and game all at the same time. That's where a lot of the processing power went to that should have been utilized for running games. The X1 sacrifices too much of its processing power to accommodate its entertainment features. Therefore it is not streamlined for gaming and it shows.

[TheFallenAngel]

Just to hype it up bud that's why they did it. Same with the media hyping it.

[DanielGearSolid]

ROFL

[Insomnia_84]

LMFAO!!!

[ic3fir3]

perfect.
games with more than 16 players, it's more for newbs, casual, campers, and play for fun
is less than 16 players for competitive hardcore gamers, and the game becomes the basis of skill, and is more balanced, and more teamwork and more game communication.
  many players makes the game less skill base, and is more newb, because we spent more time dying than the back face to face.
summarizing, titanfall is thinking about the competition, usually the most balanced game more skill-based, and are the most competitive in 4v4 or 5v5.
is expected to titanfall this way turns out to be successful in Esports =)

[Cupid_Viper_3]

Lol, now you're just trying too hard to make yourself feel better about this news.

Hey, as long as you can sleep at night right?

[OrangePowerz]

So games like CS where for noobs?

I can't see Titanfall being a great e-sports game with the additional AI running around. The 6vs6 is the amount human players, they still have additional AI in the matches. So it's not designed for 12 enemies, it's designed for 12 humans + whatever the amount of AI is.

Once you have AI it's useless for e-sports. If you can turn the AI off you play with 10-12 people on a map a game that is designed for more.

Less people doesn't equal more belanced or that you need more skill to win. Game balance and how much skill is needed comes from the game mechenaics and gameplay and has absolutely nothing to do with how many players each side has.

[Concertoine]

Oh come on, i doubt they'd clearly design the game around e-sports, and then expect e-sports people to play with AI's. Its safe to assume, like every multiplayer FPS since the genre's inception, that there will be big maps and small maps. This is getting ridiculous lol...

[Ju]

And 720p is better than 1080. I know. Heard it all.

[ginsunuva]

1080 has too many pixels. Too hard to keep track of that many.

720 is just right.

[iMaim]

Jesus christ, do you even read what you type?

[4logpc]

Lets make a big deal about this, even though it makes no difference.

who cares what the player count is? I'm sure the developers know the proper player count to ensure balance.

[DigitalRaptor]

What do you mean it makes no difference?

This is the kind of game where large maps accommodate larger player counts.

This was supposed to be the huge ambitious game-changer. You can't even pretend the E3 demo didn't make it out to have a much larger player count, and that many people looking forward to it were expecting the same thing.

Maybe, just maybe, the developers couldn't achieve what they wanted to achieve, so they HAD to find the balance. Maybe they were having cloud issues, who knows.

[4logpc]

Pretty simple, the developers know more then we do.

everyone that has played titan fall has said its a lot of fun. Not once has someone said, well the player count is too low.

again, making a big deal out of nothing.

[Ju]

I swear, "Balance" needs to be recognized as the word of the century in gaming...

[lategamer]

More Players =/= Better Game.

Get me a link where TitanFall was stated to be a large game with large maps and larger player counts. Please. I'll wait... Oh, you didn't find any?

No Shit.

Game Changer? Lol. The big hype around this game was because of the following reasons:

*Made by the creative team (members & founders of InfinityWard, now Respawn Studios) behind Call of Duty
*The focus on player movement. Quick & Vertical movement is gonna change the whole flow of the game
*The game plays well. Very fluid, controls well, fun, etc.
*The focus on a multiplayer with a "story".

The game will have 12 players, 12 possible mechs (per player) which the player can directly control or have it follow the player, and AI on the map.

[Hicken]

Seriously?

Enough with the excuses already.

There's a HUGE difference between 6v6 and, say, 16v16.

More strategy, more chaos, more variety. Inherently a need for larger maps, which is almost always better.

You'd expect a game like this to have more players than that. Usual suspects in here defending, though.

[maniacmayhem]

And the usual suspects downplaying again.

Gears of War had a limited player count and that is some of the best multi I played.

Maybe it's 6 on 6 for the simple fact of how the Mechs are game changers.

Or maybe we should just wait and see how the multiplayer actually works and plays before we all fly off the handle and start pointing our fingers and laughing.

[MestreRothN4G]

We were not supposed to be comparing the marvel of dah cloud powah with old 256 MB RAM games.

But somehow we're doing it.

Evolution is overrated, rite?

[maniacmayhem]

@Hicken

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

How about you read this straight from the developer to all of the ones over reacting.

I love that so called gamers are the first ones to fly off the handle...but we all know which camp is the first to make a big deal out of something they'll never play or own, right Hicken?

[ifistbrowni]

i think ppl forget that these are the guys that made cod popular. I'm upset to see that it's 6v6 and wont probably wont pick this up at launch (unless there is a beta/demo i can try). But, im not going to go as far as accusing the devs of not knowing what they're doing.

I hope this game is fun. That is all. I could care less what the player count is, as long as the game is fun. Gears of War (4v4), The Last of Us (4v4), COD (12-16 players), Halo 2 (6v6 (doubles being my favorite, 2v2)) were all great games and none of them had overly large teams.

If you argue that none of those games were good (understandably, recent cods werent good - Ironically, it hasnt been fun since these guys left/were fired from IW), then i feel sorry for you.

Great games have existed before at 6v6. I guess now that we're "next gen" we should complain?

[UnHoly_One]

Agreed, who cares?

Gears of war was 4v4, and it was awesome.

After the first game it went up to 5v5. Still awesome.

It's all how the maps are designed and how the game is meant to be balanced.

Respawn is designing the game, not us. I'm going to go ahead and assume they know more about making it fun than a bunch of Sony fans on N4G. lol

[DigitalRaptor]

Wow. There's no friggin way this is true. No way.

Edit:
Yep, confirmed by Vince, holy sh*t. What about the cloud? What about those large open maps? From that demo I watched, it looked like a huge, really busy kinda game. Damn.

[Bathyj]

Apparently without the cloud it would be 4 on 4 since this game is not possible without it. Right?

It would be interesting to go back to those gameplay videos and see how many players they had running there. Were they just blowing smoke? Has another Xbone game undergone a downgrade? I dont know but it does seem to be a trend.

Also interesting that with all the cloud talk thats gone on Sony is the first to show something that can actually improve our experience and is not just hot air and vapour.

[hellzsupernova]

They had to sacrifice player count to get 1080p I am almost willing to bet that's what happened

Sony dropped a mega bomb with that cloud display. Microsoft were saying recently that cloud gaming wasn't possible, even with their azure service they couldn't do cloud. Makes my head spin

Sony is just hitting it out of the park

[Bathyj]

I would be very surprised if it was 1080p. I would think they would prefer 60fps and theres no way its going to be 1080p@60fps. Then again, maybe its possible with only 6v6.

[hellzsupernova]

Yeah you would want 60frames per second. Has anyone confirmed the footage we have seen is Xbox one footage and not how the game looks on pc? Perhaps we have only seen it running on ultra settings for pc, and the Xbox one version will have scaled down graphics together with small players to achieve 1080p 60fps.

Although all the rumours point to it being 720p

[dedicatedtogamers]

Apparently "teh cloud" is being used to power the AI bots running around the maps.

That's right. Who cares about higher player count? That's stupid. What is TRULY next-gen is throttling the number of human players in favor of adding AI bots (read: canned scripted sequences during multiplayer).

[nutcrackr]

What does he mean by AI? So half the baddies you kill will actually just be bots?

[MestreRothN4G]

Not only that, but the bots are there to balance the game as well.

So if you're on a kill streak against players, be sure a ninja overpowered bot is coming to get you.

[Funky Town_TX]

Pass for me. This means small maps and cluster of spawn killing.

[kevnb]

:/

[barb_wire]

Is that for the PC version too or just the XBoxes?

I guess all those videos they released were 6v6 and Ai bots then.

Color me surprised.

[True_Samurai]

That's not too bad don't want too many titans coming at me at once. 12 regular players along side with AIs is not a bad decision

[Ricegum]

Haha, I love reading comments of people trying to defend this, it makes me chuckle. I mean come on guys, 6v6 is awful what ever way you look at it.

[CrossingEden]

Halo has been doing 4v4 multiplayer since it's inception and is still considered one of the best multiplayer games of all time, especially by the MLG community. There is nothing awful about lower player counts when there's other factors to weigh in, like AI bots, giant mechs etc. But like always, the sony fanboys always just look at the numbers instead of the actual end result.

[sovietsoldier]

proof is in the pudding and we will have to wait and see if it was a good choice to go with only 6v6. personally i trust them.

[joel_c17]

What a huge disappointment

[OrangePowerz]

I rather have no AI and no shoehorned "story" and more players insted of 6vs6 instead of the AI needed to shoehorn the "story" into the mp.

I want to play against players in mp not AI. My interest in that game is going down the more comes out, since that aweful VGX "exclusive reveal" commercial it went for me from day one purchase to some point later maybe.

[wannabe gamer]

yea this just dropped off the radar for me. ill keep an eye open come release day but damn im sure as hell not gonna preorder or make it day 1 purchase at all. if it hits 50% off and there are still people playing months later i might get it but this is just pisspoor.
id rather have 10v10 at the least that way ppl can be in titans and on foot. the game looked like it had cooldown on titans anyway so i dont see why others cant use theirs when the rest of the team is on cooldown.
6v6 just sounds like it will force everyone to use titans all the time in order to even stand a chance.

[wannabe gamer]

wow talk abut killing all the hype, this is ridiculous. The competitive scene is the minority of players so that shouldnt matter really. give them a gamemode with 6v6 and give the other million players what they want.

its no coincidence this is just now coming out, they know people wont like hearing this.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Still a day one no matter what the haters say. I'll play battlefield if I want giant open maps with a large player count.

[Bathyj]

Wow, thats suprising.

As big as a game of volleyball or Ice Hockey.

[ThunderSpark]

Lmao

[iliimaster]

better be some small maps in this or it will be a nightmare campfest

[ginsunuva]

Well it's hard to camp in a giant titan.

But that's why I fear this game won't work: everyone will be too scared of the attention they get in a titan, since it's practically a death-wish to get in one. And they're harder to control than just running around with a gun like COD.
So then people will ignore the titans and the game will turn into COD.

[Mikey94]

I will just say from a someone that has played the game 6v6 is well balanced for this game. No way did i feel overpowered when 3 guys had titans it is still really action packed. And i played offline imagine online play with the 6v6 and AI its a extremely fun game stop making a big deal of 6v6 they felt it was well balanced. Why would anyone want a like 12v12 then it would get annoying having everyone just sitting in titans would get really frustrating.

[wannabe gamer]

if half the team is on cooldown from just using titan then it would be easy to balance the use of titans. dont make it sound like its impossible cause it just isnt. 10v10 at the least would be ideal and then you could have 6 titans active at a time per team, when one goes down that frees up another one for someone else to call down while the guy that just got his destroyed is on cooldown timer.

[Mikey94]

All your talking about is restrictions why restrict someone from calling in there titan thats what made call of duty annoying teammates had a chopper up you cant call yours in then game ends. Believe me in this game if your good your titan will last and having restrictions will not be fair to others. There also focused on making this a soldier game to just freeing up space for another person to call a titan in is exactly what would get frustrating you would have nothing but titan wars which is not what the game is entirely intended to be.

Oh and if people want to know where i played it was at Las Vegas Gamestop Expo 2013

[wannabe gamer]

from watching the trailers of gameplay it looks like these restrictions are already there. the player i saw had to wait until the AI radioed in and said their titan was ready to be called down.

[bobsmith]

killzone 24 player ftw best game there is right now

[Gabenbrah]

Is that why the multiplayer is dead? KZSF and MAG are perfect examples of bad shooters and player counts not making a difference.

@GTGamer
Planetside 2 is mediocre at best, it's a poor man's Battlefield. Battlefield is the only shooter I know that works with a large player count. Go play 64 player CoD4, it's a nightmare. Hell, go play Ground War on CoD, it's awful.

[GTgamer]

Lmao KZ2 multiplayer was praised for its player count just Like Battlefield Planet side so don't give me that player count doesn't matter BS.

[wannabe gamer]

planetside ..mediocre at best...ROFL oh man lmao hahahahahahaha dude you oh rofl good one.... man that was funny

[SITH]

Have you even played planetside 2? It is literally the most dynamic multiplayer FPS I ever played in my life.

My game play.

http://youtu.be/9sD2OU3-HA0
http://youtu.be/ITgd1cEUb34

Nothing poor about this.

[ALLWRONG]

MAG, Killzone and Resistance are being dropped by Sony because no one plays it anymore. Meanwhile people still play 4v4 on Gears. Titanfall is a CQB game, it's not Battlefield. If you want Battlefield play Battlefield, if you can get it to work.

[GTgamer]

@allwrong im sorry who the hell said KZ is being dropped :/.

[ginsunuva]

Killzone 2's 32 player on large maps was more fun than the others' 24 player matches due to the chaos.

But 24 players is always so well balanced. It's just that 32 makes it so much more crazy.

[drsfinest72]

More like most boring MP game ever

[Gabenbrah]

Couldn't care less, player count doesn't mean a better game. Besides, I usually play shooters with small player counts, makes the game more competitive, more players on the map usually means less competitive and casual experience, that's why MLG games are usually 4 V 4.

[M-M]

Is that so? I've had a lot more fun, competitive games playing 16v16 in Warhawk and 12v12 in Starhawk than 4v4 or 6v6.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

I agree that low player count makes a game more competitive. KZ2 for example was 16v16 max, but most clan matches were 3v3 or 4v4 in order to minimize lucky kills and people sitting at a distance (camping) picking people off, which often happens in games with a high player count.

But do realize that Titanfall's 6v6 isn't just players only. A.I. bots are on the field as well, if it truly is about competitiveness you wouldn't want to have bots of all things killing you. Which brings me to my next point of why Respawn doesn't just replace or at least give you the option to swap bots for real players. My only conclusion for this is that the A.I. has a very important role that can't be left to up to the player.

Also, high player count isn't bad at all so as long as you can live with people getting lucky kills every once in a while. The chaos that ensues during large player count matches are extremely fun for me.

[Clunkyd]

Damage control!

[BX81]

Sweet. I think 6 to 8 players is good. Especially when you add in titans and the fact you can have your Titan shadow you, basically like adding another player on the battlefield. As long as the game play is solid I'm sold.

[fredrikpedersen]

GMG PC pre-order cancelled. I was expecting this to be at least 12v12. After playing something like PlanetSide 2, this will be tame.

I am disappointed.

[stuna1]

So this probably means that there will also be a limit as to how many Titans can be active at any given time on any map.

[Ricegum]

You can really feel that extra power of the cloud can't you.

[stuna1]

It's "Titan"nic! Lol.

[thezeldadoth]

good. more fun this way. ive never found 32v32 or 16v16 to be enjoyable

[90Supra]

....all of a sudden

[Qrphe]

They should go for 2v2 multiplayer to make it even more balanced and fun.

[saint_seya]

It should be 1 vs 1, with the ai, that way would be more balanced, and u would avoid trolls and uneskilled teammates right?

[thezeldadoth]

where in my comment did i mention balance? Games like deathmatch unreal tournament and quake, halo, counterstrike, those are all more fun to me than BF4, mag, all that.

Also good job assuming i'm some xbox one fan, i don't own either "next gen" consoles.

[gamernova]

PC gamers will definitely bump that up with mods if they have to. I'm ready :P

[HaVoK308]

It's published by EA, there will be NO mod support. They want you to buy DLC. That is less likely to happen if you can mod the game and add your own (often better) content. There is a reason Battlefield has not had proper mod support since BF2. And there is a reason thousands still play that game. Mod support for Titanfall? Not happening.

[90Supra]

Rumor has it that it was originally going to be 4v4...

Until they were given access to tEh CL0udZ...

[hiptanaka]

Power of the cloud, eh?

[Armadilo21]

really disappointing when the rumor was 64 player max

[Npugz7]

Brutal!! I'll stick to bf4 64 players thanks!

[ThatEnglishDude]

B-b-b-but, The Cloud™ guys!

[UncertainCategory]

When Gears of War first came out it was 4v4. I have to say that was one of the most enjoyable multiplayer experiences I have ever played.

A higher player count does not make a better game.

Remember MAG? Yeah. That didn't turn out too hot.

[SLUG]

they should just make it 24 players 12vs12

[Lilrizky]

Exactly! I don't see anyone complaining on the Evolve reveal article being a 4v4 game

[Ashriel]

it's actually 4v1

[Mishmash19]

Even Socom on the PS2 had up to 32 players I think over 10 years ago

[AceBlazer13]

Real revolutionary there. Make me think i'm good when i'm actually gonna be killing bots 70 percent of the time.

[sypher]

Wait, so you HAVE to play with AI bots in the match? That just ruins it :/ farm kills off of AI for easy wins because AI are... well... stupid.

They belong only if you want to play vs AI because there are no players available or want to practice. But not in actual competitive online games. It should only be players vs player.

Really hope that this is a specific mode.

[SLUG]

yes but they can rise the player count in the game

[ziggurcat]

This sums it up pretty good:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?...

[Bonerboy]

Perhaps this will keep all of the CoD preteen whiners away.
It will make for a fast and condensed game. The Devs know what they are doing. And for those that dont like it, there are plenty of other games for them.

[HappyWithOneBubble]

I knew this game wasn't gonna be all that.

[H3ADWOUND81]

Wow.. Pushing the boat out with 6v6.. If it's true that's pretty lame...

[dethpuck]

you guys are idiots and don't understand this game at all. it has AI fighting alongside and against you. you have mechs and on foot soldiers. Some of the best multiplayer games are smaller squad based games. Halo? Gears? COD? these are awesome games. With the pedigree of Zampella I'm not worried, and 'm not a big COD fan. No preview has said this game is boring, wish there were more players. Everybody said the game is crazy and awesome. Quit crying and go play your ps4.

[SLUG]

WHAT i heard it was 32vs32 game why why
i hope this is not true i would be very sad this may change before 3/11 i hope

[FANTA1180]

noone ever said it was 32 vs 32

even the demos people played were 6 vs. 6

[Lucifun]

I was pretty surprised when I heard this, but I since I never played the game, I don't know if they could of done better or that this was just right. Still going to get it though.

[Lilrizky]

If player count mattered then planetside 2 would sell more than BF4 and BF4 would sell more than COD Ghosts. I'm sure they'd eventually release a 'ground-war' style mode in a DLC if enough people demand it. But player counts don't make a good game.

[90Supra]

Planetside 2 is F2P...

[Lilrizky]

It's F2P and people still play more COD and BF4. You just helped strengthen my point

[iceman06]

You are right...BUT...Why design a game where there are MORE players, yet you can't populate them with REAL players!?!? That is the question. The team numbers are larger than 6. However, you can only actually populate them with 6 real players. That's the issue. Plus, using the most popular franchise in FPS history (CoD) is really a bit unfair. Comparing it to Planetside is short sighted in the sense that Planetside is PC only until it releases on PS4. While CoD has released on Xbox, PS3, Xbox One, PS4, WiiU, and PC.
I agree that it's about how the battles play out. However, I still feel like this game has been restricted in some sense by the limited player count. It's not necessarily a deal breaker. But, it is a bit disconcerting.

[ambientFLIER]

Because more than 12 player controlled mechs in a map would probably be too much, and the AI bots can't call in mechs. These things are done for reasons of balance, and I'm sure they experimented with player counts before settling on 6v6.

[iceman06]

@ambientFLIER...There are other things that can be done to tone down the mass spamming of mechs. What about a "cooldown" period on mechs? Or, like killstreaks in CoD, limit the number of mechs deployed per team to a certain number. Much like Battlefield, you would have to wait your turn. But, also, you would be encouraged to participate in other ways besides mech running. Balance can be achieved in many ways aside from taking the player count down. Once again, not a deal breaker. But, it just seemed like this game screams out large scaled battles.

[Rickgrimes95]

In the beginning of one of the demos you start out in a truck or a plane with 5 other people

[Convas]

Hey everyone, let's assume the game is doomed before we really get a chance to see how this actually makes the game play!

[dethpuck]

exactly. I'm glad that this is xbox exclusive. It will appeal to people who understand gears, halo, and other small team games. I love battlefield as well, but cut teeth in Halo.

[lonewolfjedi]

wonder how many bots there will in game since now we know there will be only 12 people. thIs is disappointing to say the least and with a strong rumor of this game being 720p on the xbox one.

[DanielGearSolid]

I'm 100% positive that if a SONY exclusive was 6 vs 6 and ppl said it was "perfect balancing" they would instantly be labeled fanboys...

The shoe is on the other foot this gen, Xbox fanboys are showing they're just as bad.

I'm loving it... The high and mighty have fallen

[HaVoK308]

They said it felt best with the AI. I believe them. They know how to properly balance a game. Why more vs more equals a good thing is beyond me. Rather arbitrary. As long as the pacing is fun, and the game polished. All that matters to me. Scanning the twitter comments, some are suggesting lowering the Titan count just to have more players. I say bullshit to that. I don't need 12v12 or whatever. I need an enjoyable gaming experience.

[GamersHeaven]

Power of teh clouds 6vs6 720p.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Gears of War ranged from 4v4 to 5v5... and lets not forget the beloved Uncharted Multiplayer also 5v5 and what about Left 4 Dead? Lower player count has NO indication of quality.

I have no issue seeing 6v6 IF the game is as good as everyone who at sooooo many events has said it is. Many, many have tried and loved it as is....6v6.

[kingPoS]

It's a FPS with 6v6 not a 3rd person shooter. Perhaps Titan Fall should be reset as a 3rd Person Shooter? It is a mech game after all. (ahh... dat Armored Core nostalgia)

Gateway MT6706 2008

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Counter Strike, Rainbow 6, Team Fortress... plenty of FPS to show 6v6 can be great.

[CELLA]

when i heard this i have to say wow they should just make it 12vs12 at a good balance of 24 players that way every body can be happy to have ai and some players too

[Rimeskeem]

So this game runs 720P with 6 v 6 a map on xbox atleast.......what happens now?

[first1NFANTRY]

And i'm willing to bet it will still run in 720p. LOL guess it's time to pin all hopes and dreams onto the next generic, watered down exclusive ay?

And to think i was unhappy cause TF was not coming to ps4. Think i'll wait for TF2 when it goes multiplat.

[PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt]

its only on Xbox... they can have it lmaoo PS4 don't need this trash... Socom is the only game that can make 5v5 - 8v8 work this game never caught my attention anyway

[ambientFLIER]

Yes, it's not like Gears of War, COD, Uncharted, Last of US, and Halo made small player counts work. Oh wait...

Bye bye, troll. Go play your PS4 and leave MS articles alone.

[kingPoS]

Why are there bots in an online match? Why not get rid of the AI and bump the player count up?

Gateway MT6706 2008

[ambientFLIER]

Because there would be too many titans per map if every player had one. AI bots cant call them in.

[iMaim]

This whole time I was expecting MW gunplay with future weapons, "Battlefield" scale and expanse cobbled together with giant mechs. Pretty disappointing news.

[DoubleM70]

You all do know their will be interactive AI walking around. Quit Judging this before it even comes out.

[Rich1631]

The point is...who the **** wants to play against A.I. instead of human players players?

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Apparently everyone who has played this game at preview events.

[Blac585]

this game will die faster than gears of war playing against ai bots suck at least 9 vs 9 or 12 vs 12 and get rid of the bots

[Debaitable]

This was going to be the one game I was waiting to buy to get an xbox one for. This is quite disappointing to be honest. I've only watched trailers on the game and I thought this was going to be an all out war.

[KontryBoy706]

That good ol' power of the cloud

[Dewitt]

This game was designed with competitive being at the forefront. This will go over very well with the league and pro players, not nearly as well with casuals. I am extremely excited and glad to see that TF isn't trying to be like every other shooter. Halo, CoD, Gears, UT, ect.. All had very low player counts in league play and this will enforce a more competitive community.

[H0RSE]

Glad to see someone actually understands the reasoning behind designing a game around a 6v6 player count. It has nothing to do with "limitations," and it definitely doesn't show a lack of "next-gen."

32v32 or more, is fun for pub games, but competition matches are always small. It's virtually impossible to coordinate a team of 32 (or more) players, especially on a public server.

[DanielGearSolid]

So wats wrong with the option for both play styles?

And please stop trying to bestow some kind refined hardcore aura over games with low player counts. Higher counts can be just as engaging

[H0RSE]

Becuase not all games are designed to cater to multiple playstyles. Need an example? Look at Dark Souls. Why don't they include a casual/easy mode for those you aren't looking for a challenge? Why? because the game was designed around a specific playstyle/demographic, and it looks like they're sticking to this mindset for ther sequel - http://www.forbes.com/sites...

And no one is claiming large player counts can't be as "engaging" as low player counts, only that low player counts grant specific advantages over higher ones.

[DJ]

Xbox One Limitation?

[MasterCornholio]

Well if you look at BF4 on the one the maps are a lot bigger with up to 64 players on the.

Which is why I believe its a design choice more than anything. However if the game runs at 720P (rumors) then it will be due to the limitations of the Xbox One.

[MrPoopyPants]

This game was designed to be on the forefront? More like the borefront.

[HeroReborn]

Although it's a low player count I think it makes a bit of sense, human players seem to be the ones with the ability to call in Titians, just can't see them being able to deliver a solid game performance with a high player count. Until more is discovered and updated with these consoles I'm cool with a solid 6v6

[H0RSE]

Imagine 32v32 (or more) on Titanfall. Now imagine every player has a Titan at the same time - it would be chaos. Bigger isn't always better, even in games that offer it. If you need an example, play on a full server of CTF on Metro in BF4...

[Simco876]

Agree, but you can't reason with the casual mob that sees the greater number the better. Hell Goldeneye was 2v2 and look how much fun you could have.

People just need to wait and see for themselves. Personally I'm glad it's turning off these casual bastards, let them play against 12 year olds in CoD

[KingmanIII]

12v12, scrap the A.I., max 3 or 4 titans per team.

How difficult can it be?

[dethpuck]

Every player can have a Titan on the field at once. This isn't starhawk

[KingmanIII]

Or, I guess EA could simply allow dedicated servers so admins could set their own lim...HAHAHAHA yeah.

[Whiskeyjacked87]

Funny to read people defending and offending a game they have never played, but as they say, bigger is better! Less isn't more! More is more! Just like the McDonald's commercial stated some years back. People always want more.

[coopman300]

Looks like the ps fanboy brigade is out in full force. God forbid they try to make titanfall different from all the cookiecutter fps's on the market.

Fewer players promotes more player to player competition instead of a big mass of people running around with no skill involved.

Also hardware has nothing to do with it, more players would probably put less strain on the system since it wouldn't have to account for the ai bots. The game was meant to have a single player feel with multiplayer competition.

[H0RSE]

6v6 is fine, as long as the maps are built around it. Competition matches tend to be around this size, since it allows for coherent matches and coordination between players. All those who are complaining how 6v6 is not "next-gen" are completely missing the point as to why you design a game around 6v6 play, and likely have never played FPS's competitively.

Large player-count servers are fun, but you can never coordinate as a full team. It's usually smaller teams within a team, that may or may not be working together, which often results in a portion of the team actually playing towards a goal, and the rest of the team doing their own thing.

Whether it's 6v6 or 64v64, I won't care either way. They both offer their own merits.

[R00bot]

Wow, I expected much more. It's gone from being a must-buy to a game that I'll wait for reviews before buying.

[purp13m0nk3y]

I could give a f'k if it was 12 or 120 player cap. A well designed game will be fun either way. Currently my favorite BF4 mode is Defuse. Epic fun and guess what. Very low player caps. I almost never play the 64 player servers. They shit me.

The deal breaker for me is the bots. I'm sorry but for me Bots = fail.

They either end up being useless cannon fodder or ninja/jedi hybrids that head shot you from across the map.

Every single FPS I've ever played with bots I've ended up hating them. You better be able to play without them!

Oh well guess my Xbox1 will continue collecting dust until halo comes out. Anyone for some KZ MP?

[ambientFLIER]

Have you tried the bots on COD Ghosts? I have to give it to the developers, they pulled off something that I never expected. You can watch the bots play and have no clue that they are bots. They camp, screw up, use killstreaks effectively, etc etc... I once watched a bot from my own team camping in the corner next to a flag for a solid minute as the rest of the bot team went on to capture the next one.

[H0RSE]

There are no bot teammates. The AI play there role in a different way. Each team is comprised of all human players.

[DoesUs]

Dat balance!

[Goku781]

anyone see that episode of invader zim where zim sent dib to a room with a moose? yeah, thats what just happened with this game. six people prepare for titanfall.

[L4NCEYJSC]

BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!

As soon as I heard this was Xbox exclusive I messaged Respawn on LinkedIn (I have the recruitment department added to my list) and said making this exclusive was a bad idea. Before I get dislikes I'm not saying they are backing the wrong horse, just they should have made this multiplat.

Maybe and only maybe they could have squeezed more players on the PS4 but this just tells me that Respawen are not the company we thought. God the game looks good but for a pure multiplayer game 6v6 is nothing short of disgusting.

Good luck in the future Respawn but you keep producing 6v6 games and you will see my money going elsewhere.

I'm actually getting annoyed typing this 6vs6 what did they think they were producing this on? A N64!

I'm sick of game companies doing the entire smoke and mirrors. The truth always comes out in the end and the final product will decide if I buy it or not.

Titanfall - 6v6
Ryse - Reduced poly count from E3
Forza - lowered graphics from the E3

Hold on I'm seeing a trend here.......all Xbox games. Oh I'm leaving before the flaming and dislikes start. Exit stage left.

[ambientFLIER]

Ryse reduced poly counts in places that were not visible on the character, but upped the shaders and ended up with a better looking game than the previews.
If you are such a butthurt sony fanboy that you would prefer a technically higher poly count over a better looking game, then you need help.

By the way, there is no smoke and mirrors, or truth coming out in the end, they always said it was 6 on 6. I'm glad for smaller team counts and more tactical and personal play. If I want 64 players on huge maps, I will play Battlefield.

I'm not even sure why I'm responding to you. Your account is brand new with 20 comments, and all of them are troll posts against Microsoft.

[BcozoftheImplication]

Wow 6 vs 6 what a game changer!! Lol

[urwifeminder]

Not bothered by this game looks great I can see why some would be confused as player counts are increasing on most games I will wait to play before jumping into full blown hate town with the popular kiddies.

[Darkwizard904]

This site sickens me along with the so called "gamers" on here. I see people bashing this game calling it bad or a flop, because it chooses not to have butt loads of people on the map. When did the quantity of players determine a games play ability or fun factor? This generation of our so called gamers are so blinded by stupid irrelevant things such as an extra pixel, or a fps or two, or now the amount of players in a multiplayer lobby, and it really just makes no sense to me. From what I notice this site is infested by Sony fan boys, quick to bash any game or anything related to microsoft.

Killzone, resistance, MAG lol yeah those games have TONS of people on the map, but are those games actually genuinely good. Or extraordinary I should say. Their okay, alright, average at most. Nothing crazy. So apparently games like League of Legends suck now because there isn't more than 12 people in the lobbies. Wrong, league is one the most successful/played games in the world, and guess what? it sticks to a small engaging lobbies, same with TitanFall. It's the art of design.

Two totally differnt genres I know, but the principal remains the same. TitanFall WILL be a great game, and it sure as hell doesn't need 30+ players on the map to make it good. Good gameplay, balance, competitiveness, engaging. Those are what make a game good, I feel like the 6v6 decision can really execute it well and will create a game that functions excellently.

This new market of games got everyone blinded with their shiny pixels, and resolutions but people forget the soul of their video game which is the gameplay.

give me CoD 4, Counter strike, or Halo 2 over any Killzone, Resistance, or Mag.

[clerigo]

6 vs 6????
It's a joke! ... ... Right????

[NeloAnjelo]

6v6... on next gen...? Pass for me.

[jacksjus]

I'm am very surprised by this considering online play was their selling point.

[jjb1981]

I guess I'll definitely be investing my time in Destiny.

[tommygunzII]

These days it has to look good, even if it comes at a price.
I would rather have 100 players with PlayStation 2 graphics but I'm in the minority I'm sure.

[TheObserver]

6 vs 6 is really disappointing. . . I was hoping AT LEAST for it to be the standard 12 vs 12 or 16 vs 16. Then all the "Hardcore" competitive people can down-size to 6 vs 6 or whatever size they want. Forcing 6 vs 6 out the gate is sorely disappointing.

[sAVAge_bEaST]

6v6 with EA Publishing, icing on the cake... have fun with it guys.

[strigoi814]

i guess this game will not be using MS servers eventually..guess its gonna be like gears of war multiplayer.

[ion666]

But but but basketball is 5 vs 5. This game is gonna be dead on arrival.

[Vithar]

lol oh well

[FANTA1180]

everyone talking shit , then the game comes out and theyre all on it like white on rice.

6 vs 6 is going to be awesome.

[LoneWolf019]

Ive played Titanfall 6v6, honestly with everything going on you can't even tell that its only 6v6 everyone needs to just calm down already. Its not the end of the world and reserve you're judgement until you play it

[Kidmyst]

I was hoping for atleast double this but it's Respawn who is made up of the original COD makers, the original COD games were great so I still have to have some confidence in these guys.

[frostypants]

Well, THIS game is dead to me now. They're filling the void with AI bots? Really? F*** that.

[Wikkid666]

This isn't a traditional MP game. It's co-op game.

[iNFAMOUZ1]

*uck you then titanfall

[HarryB]

Maybe thats why the other guy from infinity ward quit lol. His name is jason? 6 v6 shit just throw a basket ball in there. The game suppose to be the featured game of xbox one.

[kewlkat007]

Halo
Dota
LOL
Gears of War....etc

All games that have made big impacts on multiplayer gaming and most have been 8 or less.

All those 64 man plus games have had not much to show for it in accolades..

If there was such limitations then the 360 version would be 4x4..

[arbitor365]

dont worry. they will supplement it with AI opponents. just like with killer instinct #PowerOfTheCloud

[DealWithIt]

XD

Killer Comment.

[InTheZoneAC]

have fun with your overrated 6v6

low numbers are only good when playing TPS tactical shooters

[GundalfDeGrej]

I don't think the game is ruined at all. It's not like the game with the most players is automatically the winner. I mean come on, it can't be because of hardware limitations so it has to be for balancing reasons. Imagine 32 players. It would either end in chaos with all the titans OR you'd have to wait multiple games to actually drive one.

[PsylentKiller]

I get why people want more players but it might not make sense for this game. CoD has a player count of 6v6 for most of its game modes. MAG had 256 players but the game failed horribly due to the poor implementation of teams. Battlefield 4 has 16-64 players. However, the players are split into squads of 5. Why? Because it's easier to coordinate with fewer people.
6v6 may be optimal because of the titans. The map sizes may only be able to fit 12 titans. It's a balancing act of making the maps big enough for the titans but small enough for the pilots so that it doesn't feel cramped for the titans or vast for the pilots.
In BF4, 64 player matches, do you jump in a vehicle at the start to the game or do you run to the closest flag? I think that is one of the things respawn were trying to avoid in Titanfall.

[Father__Merrin]

i thought this was supposed to be a NexGen extravaganza?????

[MetaReapre]

I don't know if someone already asked this or covered this because the comments are WAAAY too long for me to have time to read. However, if they are using AI to simulate more of a battle or whatever the excuse is, why not just use real players instead? I mean my point is battlefield increased its emersion with destructible terrain, mag made it so that a massive war amongst many people made you feel like it was a real war (which I quite enjoyed). There are better ways to make immersion better and in my opinion, using AI isn't one of them. Adding something that you have no communication to and can't have assist in specific ways except whatever they are programmed to do is kinda taking you out of the immersion.

[cell989]

why cant we live in a perfect world where Titanfall is 12 vs 12 for epic battles, Killzone SF has Mechs and a decent campaign :/ the good amount of hype for this game had in me is completely dead now :/

[ocelot07]

Now I have never really had any interest in Titanfall. If I did end up getting a itch to play it I would simply buy it on PC or even Xbox 360 (yes remember it is coming out for the 360 as well).

But when it was announced Battlefield 4 was going to have 64 players on next gen console. Everyone was like yer this is next gen 64 players woooooo. Then now this 12 player announcement people are like yerrr we don't need 64 or 32 player battles.

The mind boggles me. Any interest I had in this game has now gone. Don't get me wrong I do like close quarters multiplayer games. But something which is suppose to have massive robots. This should of at least been a 24 player online game.

If Battlefield 2142 a nearly 10 year old PC game can support big maps with giant robots running around the map am sure this can to. Lost planet is another game that comes to mind.

Also I don't agree with the price for this title. It is a online only title. I was struggling to accept the price in the first place this was when I was expecting at least 24 players. But only 12 and EA want £50 for it on Xbox One and what £30 on PC? Should be £20 and a download title only.

[SoulSercher620]

May have to rethink getting this now. That is too low for a game like Titanfall. It may be a successor to CoD but don't bring its flaws with it.

[Dirkster_Dude]

More human players isn't necessarily better. I have found due to the number of human players in CoD and BF games 1 of the many reasons why I can't stand either game. While I suspect it may have to due with some sort of limitation of the game we don't know enough yet except 6vs6. We don't know WHY. This is no different than everyone always going Gaga over graphics when graphics aren't the end-all-and-be-all of immersion.

[SolidSnake007]

All of you guys saying Titanfall was designed around 6v6 matches need to go back and watch the gameplay vids, at the beginning of each match it clearly shows 10 or 12 players on each team! All of you guys saying well Gears is only 5v5 or COD is (mostly) 6v6 also need to realize these maps have a lot more verticality since you have a jet pack, and they also appear to be at least the size of a Halo big team battle map if not bigger! So you know what that means? It means half of your freaking team is made up of bots just to fill out the maps! What this tells me is that Respawn is trying to make the most casual and accessible multiplayer game ever. It tells me that their goal is for any noob to easily go 20/5 in a match (with 12 bot kills, 8 human kills and 5 deaths by humans) meaning even an average player thinks that they’re great in this game. I for one want to play against real people not bots! If I want to kill bots I’ll play coop or single player, there is absolutely no reason to have half of the players in the game be bots! I for one was really looking forward to buying an Xbone in the next couple of months for this game, but now I might just hold out and wait for Halo 5. Respawn needs to get out in front of this and explain exactly how their mp works, because as of right now it just seems like they’re throwing up smoke and mirrors to fool us into thinking this game is something it’s not. What’s next? Are they going to reveal that we’re getting a 6v6, mp only game with only 6 maps for $60?

[solidboss07]

'Stop sniggering at the back'.

[Lacarious]

its 6v6 cuz the xb1 is a weak next gen system.

[SpideySpeakz]

because the Bone can't handle it.

[silvacrest]

I'll say it again

sony should give starhawk a face lift and bring it to PS4

with certain truths coming to light about titanfall it would be perfect timing

[ninjahunter]

Ugh jeez people need to learn that not all games are made to be 32 vs 32.
"Hey guys want to play a card game? Sorry I cant, its not 64 player."

Some of the most respected multiplayer games in history are 12-16 players, heck 4x4 is considered more professional since it allows the entire team to communicate and coordinate effectively.

[carlocgc]

Dota 2 is 5v5, L4D is 4v4. the best multiplayer games have less players imo...
Hope this comes to Steam

[solidt12]

I can't believe a multi-player game in 2014 would have 6v6. I mean even if it was 8v8 that would be bad but I don't think people would be outraged about it.

[dcbronco]

Could be a situation where each of the six humans has a Titan and a AI squad at their command. Instead of bouncing betties. Leave guards. I think people need to wait and see what they do. Too much short sighted speculation as usual.

[cheameup]

6 v 6 really ? I am a huge fan of the original Gears of war MP. sitll one of my fav's to this day and its only 4 v 4 . but titanfall has been showcasing big ,open warfare style game play .

maybe it a genious move and its gonna be great but my interest level just fell

[PudgeySan]

Haven't even read this, But I am a PlayStation advocate and I don't see this as a big deal. It didn't hurt gears any. More doesn't always mean better in games. I am not planning on buying an Xbox 1 but I do hope good things for this game as it's one of those games you will want to play when you and your buddy swap consoles for the week.

[DealWithIt]

LMFAO

[italian10]

i honestly see no problem at all for this game being 6v6