How Microsoft Used GTAIV To Save The Xbox 360 From Extinction

Torrence Davis of The Bitbag writes, "For Sony to not secure any exclusive deals with GTAIV, they have broken their momentum. They have given Microsoft too much room to shoot. Microsoft took advantage of that and have very strong sales of the GTAIV game and will have more coming this August to those lucky 360 owners."

[alexM]

GTA4 moved PS3s only

It convereted PS2 owners to PS3 but not XBUTT 3 FIX ME

Not to mention in europe ONLY PS3 version of GTA4 sold .

In USA PS3 version will end up selling as well as X360 PLUS there would be a huge number of PS2--> PS3 conversions

It is over for XBUTT and 3FIX ME

[BLaZiN PRopHeT]

you joking right? come on why havent they IP banned you? In the UK the 360 version sold more than the ps3 version, or did you just decide to skip that? and in NA NPD will show you how wrong you are.

[Deadman64]

lol alex again with the sweet fanboy posts

[Wildarmsjecht]

In that respect Prophet, UK is only one part of Europe, and NA is one part of the World. Retailers have already begun to state that in the US, its 60/40 MS favor, and 60/40 Sony favor in Eur. Really, the whole thing is pointless. We'll be hearing stuff like this for 2 more weeks before NPD comes out and even then, it won't truly be relevant till next month when GTA has been out for that period of time.

[alexM]

why do you post here stupid XBUTT

In UK PS3 :x360 had 45:55 split despite PS3 having 70% of X360's base in UK

In other parts of europe x360 doesnt even exits

Just go back to GT forums u stupid GARBAGE BOX 3 FIX ME fanboy

[AngryTypingGuy]

Take a look at the software charts. The 360 doesn't need saving. It's the choice of the hardcore gamer.

[Drekken]

They are saved!!! GTA in April and they only have to wait till august for More GTA!!! HOORRAAAYY for MS!!!!! NG2 Exclusive is about all MS has up their sleeve, and again... PS3 has plenty of hack and slash coming.

[Homicide]

Check it out at VGChartz. Yes it was the GTA IV week.

PS3 - 145K

360 - 119K

HD Console War over baby.

[Proxy]

This is my favorite PS3 news of the day! :D

(The article I mean. Why in PS3 section?)

[power of Green]

Not having this game would have caused great damage if the game never released we'd still be in the same boat just before the launch.

[toughNAME]

Doesn't that mean the Xbox 360 saved GTA IV from extinction?

[Drekken]

Funny, I am 30% into single player with about 20 hours on multiplayer...

And there are work arounds to get it working - Given its a big pain, but hey sometimes you have to do what you have to do. But honestly its nothing compared to what I have had to do with PC games in the past.

[toughNAME]

I'm taking a bubble everytime you stutter

EDIT - lmao did you just go down a bubble in the last 10 minutes?!

I'm taking his bubbles because he annoys me...that doesn't mean everyone has to swoop in a take them.

[Lunch]

I think we can all agree that ToughName just got owned,lol?

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Video that PorkyPig is linking to(In case it gets deleted) ^

Edit 2:It's like I can see into the future :O !

[Wildarmsjecht]

and i'll bubble him up. flamebait like your comment isn't wanted here.

[Kazuo Hirai]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

he did get owned and stuff

[toughNAME]

Except my original comment, and Drekken's

[Drekken]

people must be real sensitive today, I lost 2 bubbles! lol

I dont need to talk 8 times in a story, but daaaamn!!!

[Lunch]

It appears there's a Mod abusing his/her power,seeing as how ToughNames OpenZone comment is still here in the Gamer Zone,and PorkyPigs Gamer Zone comments have been deleted for no reason(I think it's because he proved ToughName wrong by linking to this video : http://www.youtube.com/watc... )

My bubbles are sure to go next,but that's ok,because ToughName unknowingly admitted to having multiple accounts("I'm taking his bubbles"-A user can only take 1 bubble from another user,correct? )I'm going to be contacting the Admins to see if they can do something about it.

[Drekken]

Lunch, you know I would... but I have better things to do then to cry to mods or make multiple accounts to make myself have more bubbles. I saw porky's comment and he basically owned toughname. Some people are the sensitive type.

I know I speak nothing but truth on this site and sometimes the truth hurts... but anyone who knows this should bubble me up like I bubble them up. I just dont make a big deal out of giving bubbles... if I like what they say, they get a bubble. and visa versa... just sad how people have to have multiple accounts to be able to talk on this site.

I get my gaming news from this site as I sift through the garbage... Its just weird how all my comments all day have not received crazy amounts of disagrees, but i lost 2 bubbles in one day. I was kinda harsh on the hack with the 75/100 review.. coulda been him and maybe not toughname... so who knows, who cares... I am going home to play GTA on my PS3 and IT WORKS. DISAGREE WITH THAT!

[toughNAME]

lol what? When did I admit to multiple accounts?

Lunch I'm sure your bubbles will go next if you keep making comments like that. I gave Drekken a bubble because there is nothing wrong with what he said, he just didn't understand the [joke].

You lost 2 bubbles because you associated yourself with me.

[hfaze]

Amen to that... and bubbles for you!

[Lunch]

You gotta love this guy ^,not only does he make a fool of himself by making a ridiculous fanboy comment in the Gamer Zone,unknowingly admitting to using multiple accounts,and removing other users bubbles for being proven wrong,he actually has the nerve to make subtle threats on...get ready for it...Your bubbles.

I wonder if Break-I mean,ToughName,will get back on topic anytime soon.

[i Shank u]

lafffing at who said toughname admitted to multiple accounts and reported him; there exists a thing called "grammer", and toughname said bubble('s) in the plural form: since the person he was speaking of had more then one bubble, he said "bubbles". this site is always worth a laff :P

[Breakfast]

@ Lunch

You and i know you have multiple accounts...lol. Ill stop their...but i must admit your not very intelligent.

Dont worry...i have a second account too....the name is - toughNAME...you caught me!

[Lunch]

"You and i know you have multiple accounts...lol. Ill stop their...but i must admit your not very intelligent. "

I,both,',there,I,you're.

You shouldn't be implying other people lack intelligence when you can't string a proper sentence together.

Thanks for the post though,gave me exactly what I needed!

[juuken]

I lol'd at that.

[green]

Some might disagree but actually it is the truth.If GTA4 was exclusive to the PS3 then microsoft could kiss their 6million console advantage bye bye by september or october.But by making it multiplat, rockstar have effectively divided the fanbase between 2 platforms.

GTA will never be a platform exclusive anymore because Rockstar have made way to much money from GTA4 going multiplat.

[Danja]

Well we will see when GTA5 comes around and a regular DVD9 can't cut it in the next 2 years or so...

besides R* hasn't split the GTA fanbase...im sure millions of ppl bought GTA when it was on the orginal Xbox...even though it came out 6 months after the PS2 version...

and developing a game like GTA for 2 platforms at the same time...cost alot more than developing for one platform...

So unless EA buys T2 ..im sure GTA5 will be a timed exclusive for the PS3...! as it usually was....

[Silellak]

I'm not sure if we'll see GTA5 until next gen anyway. We might get 1 or 2 Vice City/San Andreas style games, but I'm not even sure about that, honestly. I think a lot of it depends on how successful the DLC is.

Either way, next gen, I doubt Microsoft will still be using DVD9 anyway.

For the record, I am someone who definately would've bought a PS3 for GTA4 if it were exclusive, but didn't need to because I already had a 360.

And I guarantee I am far from the only one that in situation.

[Fruit Loops]

I guess they looked really desperate doing it.

[LevDog]

What Ms shoulda done was.. Use that 50 mill they used to get GTA4 to their console and put that 50 mill on the RROD problem (not talkin crap just making a serious point)... I mean yes GTA4 prolly prolonged the death of 360.. but it doesnt take away the RROD problem..

I mean GTA4 is a lil over rated.. 360 owners will be playing it until GOW2 comes out ( eee in what NOV OR SEP).. but seriously for PS3 owners.. Its just another game.. MGS4/MGO comes out in about a month.. So does Haze I mean If Haze is as good as advertised and MGS4 is already getting GTA4 type previews reviews? (if that makes sense) If Haze lives up to hype.. Ps3 owners wont even touch GTA4 anymore and GTA4 on 360 will look kinda old after a month..

So yes It did save 360.. but it was a limited time save

[LaChance]

now GTA4 is "just another game"

So.... which game is going to kill the 360 now ?

GTA4 ( one of the biggest and most important games in HIstory )which is a Playstation franchise like you guys kept on yelling didny kill the 360.

So I bet Haze will kill the 360 right ? or maybe the hardcore MGS4.

Its the szme thing over and over again. You guys get all excited thinking that this or that game is gonna help the PS3 REALLY take off but it just never happens.

I bet it will be the saaaaaaame thing all over again when MGS4 comes out.

[LevDog]

Ok seriously I never said ONE game would kill 360.. No one game can kill another system.. ITs gonna be a magnitude of games.. The way Ps3 08 lineup is looking its getting close.. with Blu ray, Blutooth wireless capabilities.. and soon an Online that will match XBL and for free.. Even Play TV and PSP will contribute.. But all in all it will be a variety of things NOT just one game..

Thats why I said it prolonged the death.. cause it all fairness GTA4 was good for 360..

but with the faulty hardware of 360 and its small dics and the ceiling for games getting closer.. also with no HD movie capabilities its hard to see the staying power of 360

TO ME PERSONAL OPINION: 360 is looking alot like Dreamcast.. Easy to dev for, a few solid games.. but no real staying power in the long term

ONCE AGAIN PERSONAL OPINION

[PStriple703]

A multi game that was built on the playstation brand saved the 360?

[ThaGeNeCySt]

Ironic, isn't it?

[CViper]

What games does Microsoft have that they are going to heavily advertise as the likes of a Halo3 or a Gears2? Or will they just fall back on the already established Game Library of older titles?

Banjo Kazooie?
Two Worlds?
Alan Wake?
Huxley?
NG2?
Warhounds?
Left4Dead?
Fable2?
Splinter Cell?

None of these are going to be near GTAIV/MSG4/Gran Turismo/Killzone2/Resistance2/ Little Big Planet when it comes to the "hype" console moving power, and just general awareness of the franchise. They are going to be good titles, but what is MS going to push as the REASON to buy a 360? They did it with GTAIV, touting the online. What of those games is going to be the REASON to buy for the same audience that bought GTAIV? Most of the 360's lineup are obscure fan favorites, and untested titles that have little to no media attention. Say what you will about the PS3 lineup, but its legendary. MGS4 is wrapping up. Killzone2, The CGI seen world wide. Little Big Planet, possibly the most creative game to ever hit consoles. Gran Turismo, best looking car game out. Resistance 2, will it have what it takes to go against Gears again? I mean there is a discussion around all of the titles in the Ps3 Lineup.I Its a pretty safe bet that the only large title MS has now, is Gears2. Which will be out around some pretty amazing PS3 titles. If Gears 2 doesn't show vast improvement over the first one, and trump any features of Killzone2/Resistance2, its going to be very interesting. I doubt any of those titles will even have billboards.

Sony has already slowly started separating itself with its exclusive titles from both multiplatform and exclusive 360 titles. This year you will have nothing but titles on the PS3 that have no competition outside of multiplatform titles, that will more than likely play equal on the ps3.

The 360 had a head start, and look at it now. Barely selling 5000 more units than the PS3 at home court. No need to go into worldwide.

[Boldy]

Sometimes I wonder how you have so many bubbles.

[liquidsnake]

I thought he/she made some very good points.

[etownone]

Say what you want, but both consoles have a great line-up.

Sony with MGS4, ReFOM2, LBP, and possibly Killzone2. Those are some heavy hitters. Will it make 2008 the PS3 year? HIGHLY DOUBTFUL

M$ with Gears2, Banjo, Splinter Cell5, Too Human, NG2, Fable 2, Halo Wars, Alan Wake, and dont forget the DLC for GTA4. (on a side note, notice how nobody can label the 360 as a "shooters" only console anymore)

Out of all the games coming out this year, i still believe Gears will deliver more hype and will sell more during holiday season. Expect heavy MS style mega-advertising campaing. Especially with movie, books, and toys already in the works.

[Homicide]

The truth hurts doesn't it 360 fanboys? MS already thrown their biggest IP, Halo 3 and that was suppose to kill the PS3. Look at it now? It's outselling the 360 WW. The PS3 still hasn't gotten one of those big IPs. With a one year headstart, this is pathetic for Microsoft.

[fredy]

could you be more off topic.

let me guess everything in that post id gonna happen cause u say so...haha

fanboys are fools.

[myabsolution]

@7 - Wow... fanboy logic overload here!

Yes, Banjo Kazooie, Splinter Cell, NG2, Fable 2 ARE TOTALLY not console movers compared to Killzone 2 (cuz we all loved the first game amirite?!?), Resistance 2, and LittleBigPlanet...

seriously, come up with something sensible or just shut up altogether.

@7.1 - Bubbles to you sir!

[Drekken]

He did make good points, but you know all these little kiddies on this site that collects paychecks from MS and all the stocks they own, they take it personal.

The truth of the matter is this... IF these consoles were PC's. You owned and 360 and I owned a PS3... I could say I have a better PC then you and noone would argue that point. More power, More reliability, more flexibility, more backing from previous versions... but here on N4G people don't seem to rationalize. I am getting sick of this site and the fights... stupid fights, the fights that try to disagree with FACTS. I love popping in and giving my two cents. If you want read it, if not who cares... but I am over it. I will come and read the gamer news for anything exciting. You cant be civil here because you are provoked. You cant be sarcastic or witty because you are lynched... its ridiculous.

Anyways.... PSN Drekken79 for all you gamers who have a PS3 and HATE autoaiming GTA nooblets.

[i Shank u]

wall of text = pontificating BULLsheet

how can one judge the moving power of titles that are 6 months away, that likely dont exist yet to the average consumers mind? you must have a godly crystal ball, props to you !

[LastDance]

if i see one more list of playstation titles on this website..Im going to shoot something.

Its well established that everybody on this website KNOWS exactly whats coming out on ps3...how couldnt they with every 2nd post writing them down..
from now on we should just abbreviate it to...

The PONE list.
yea..call sounds good!

[potenquatro]

what a complete waist of time reading ur post,and it was long too.i feel i should've gotten paid.grow up. why can't u go to the open zone?it's one clic away.one clic.

[meepmoopmeep]

in a way it's true. GTA4 is probably the biggest game this gen and if MS didn't get a same day release it would have hurt the 360 a lot. but no one game will make or break a console and i doubt anyone buys a console just for one game alone.

[DJ]

One game can't save a console from falling hardware sales. It takes an arsenal.

[highps3]

THeyd only have NG2? Frankly the games good and all but no multi player now a days makes games kinda pointless to buy...

[flambeau]

It all depends on the genre.I don't think a platformer would have good multiplayer.

[etownone]

I would be the first to admit it, if Sony would have secured GTA4, it would have taken over like the PS2 did.
GTA3 is the best selling game series on PS2, all 3 games on the top four of best selling list.

But you gotta admit, for MS to get same day release, 720p, 2xAA, no HDD required, far less problems reported playing online compared to PS3, and the exclusive DLC coming fall 08 and spring 09. THAT is a slap in the face to past ps2 sonyfans.

[ForTheFallen]

I guess everyone forgot about that little Home rumor, didn't they?
The one where DLC for GTA was included? Never disproved, btw.

I don't know the sales numbers, but I think PS3 outsold Xbox. Simple as that. It's still slightly too early to say, as we don't have things from everywhere...right? Idk.

[ActionBastard]

I don't know if I'd say it saved it from extinction, but it definitely saved the 360 from getting completely rolled over this year. IMHO.

[air1]

how ppl still act like the 360 is dead because 08's line up isnt as strong as the ps3. is the ps3 dead now since it hasnt come out with a triple a title since launch? no my friends, this will go back and forth for a while. NO PS3 GAME IS GANA COMPETE AGAINST NG2 IN THE HACK AND SLASH. GEARS 2 WILL CURB STOMP ALL SHOOTERS AGAIN! JUST SIT BACK AND WATCH..

[ActionBastard]

After playing NG2, all I could muster was "meh". Not being able to change weapons on the fly sucked and it didn't look as good as Sigma. As of right now, either version of DMC4 owns NG2. Doesn't matter if you use the claws, the staff or dual blades...pausing to change your weapon is such a distraction. Gears 2 will the same "been there, done that" game ALL of Epic's games are.

[spooky205]

ninja gaiden is a great game but its not a system seller. it will be kickass, dont get me wrong but for casuals it is not so hot. maybe its the difficulty or lack of interesting storyline. God of War 3 appeals to both these aspects. so i think sony has the hack and slash covered. as for gears well gears will be unmatched but one game isn't really gonna make people buy more systems especially if its a sequel.

[sak500]

Yes u're right. 360 games dont support weapon change on fly cuz of its DVD9. But atleast u have ps3 and ITs good that ps3 has games with real time weapon change based on historic japanese battles with giant crabs. Do hit them when they are overturned for massive damage.

[ActionBastard]

That's so...2006. Is that the best you got? What does the disc format have to do with design decision? Or was that some attempt at humor? Anyway, if you enjoy pausing your game to change your weapon, so be it. I like fluidity.

[7h3ultim8p00]

Lol Action Bastard are you serious? Is "real-time weapon change" that big a deal? You haven't played Ninja Gaiden 2. Shut up. If you did, you would never says something as stupid as "it doesn't look as good as Sigma." That right there was proof enough. I mean, take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

and ESPECIALLY this (a later build than the one above):

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I mean. Just look at those. Especially the new lighting on the second one. Even though they are youtube quality, they CLEARLY look better than Sigma. No mistake about that.

[power of Green]

Whats the big deal? PS3 fanboys are acting like this news post is actually saying GTA 4 is PS3 exclusive lets move on now.

[alexM]

PS3 version of GTA4 will outsell the xbutt 3 fiX ME version in terms of worldwide sales

why arent you crying MART

It is over for XBUTT and 3 FIX ME

[power of Green]

Looks like one of them took what I said to heart lol.

[tehReaper]

Alex, stick those "aka"'s up your...nevermind.

If someone tried to name every multiple account that you have, it'd take more than an hour.

That's pretty sad.

[spooky205]

while i agree that if gta 4 had been a ps3 timed exclusive it would have hurt the 360 alot, this article is nothing more than flamebait. the 360 has plenty of good titles to worth justifying the price tag for, but i also consider that gta 4 is the most hardcore casual game on the market. it is definitely a system seller. but with take 2 having financial trouble the most logical step was to make a multiplat game for financial reasons. no biggie, ps3 has a better lineup than the 360 and the 360 can hold its own with its previous library and maybe one of those new IPs will be a sleeper hit. of course this is definitely sonys year. MSG4 will hurt the 360 alot as well. I wonder what microsoft has to try to parry MGS4 when it comes out..............

[etownone]

I dont think MS has anything to compete with MGS4 when it comes out except NG2. Either way, both NG2 and MGS4 are for the hardcore.
With MGS4 able to sell systems to ps2 sonyfans that have been holding back.

Either way, 2008 will be interesting, i'm sure MS will have its price drop for the mass market come E308. And with a blu-ray "ultra" 360 planned for fall 08 and Wii-like motion controls..... MS will get momentum back this year.

1. Price - MS biggest advantage, price drop for the mass market ($199)
2. LIve - currently regarded as the best for online
3. Games - currently has the highest rated multi-plat and exclusives with too many exclusives coming out this year.
4. Blu-Ray - if a new sku with blu-ray comes out, it takes SOnys biggest advantage away from them,
5. Motion Control - Wii-like controls in the works for the Casual Market.

[jke82]

logic always seems to fail with fanboys but in any case ill try to help you out here etownone

so your points heres a rebuttle
1. yes price does matter but so does value what do you get if they drop down the price to 199$
360 arcade no hdd
we all know a hdd is needed thats a given with out it how do you expect to do anything of interest on.....
2. XBOX LIVE- you need a hdd for you to take full advantage of it no ifs ands or buts about it not to mention the fact you say that its regarded as the best thing out since sliced bread BUT that argument in and of itself is subjective to the person using the service some poeple out there hate live pure and simple
3. games- once again your using a rateing system that is subjective to the person rateing the games themselves to completely rely on that is like me telling you you like brussel sprouts cause i give them a 9.5 outta 10....some people....dont like brussel sprouts
4.bluray-ms already said nope to this not to mention how many 360 users they would burn if they released another new sku with different hardware forceing people to upgrade if they would want to play bluray games...comeon man thats just a stupid idea.
5. motion control--dont two out of three current gen systems have that implimented...which ones were they again....

etownone man take off the fanboy glasses i have a no fail 2 step process so that you can enjoy all games and not have to defend one console like a tard

step 1. go buy the systems you dont have now
step 2. ....profit....
step 3 enjoy the games and not care what review sites/forums/fanboys on message bords say and just enjoy the games all three sytems are doing great all three systems have insane amounts of awesomeness and all three sytems creators could care less if you defend them to the bitter end in a message board they just want your $$$$

[etownone]

HDD is needed? why? because Sony says so? typical brainwashed KID

Tell that to parents that dont want their kids playing online,
or the people that can't afford an added expense of broadband,
or the people that cant get broadband where they live,
or to the mass market that just wants to play AAA games like GTA4 and COD4 at the cheapest price.

And please dont bring up the motion on ps3, its known by everyone including developers all agree its just plain useless. To put the ps3 motion and Wii in the same sentence as IF they were on par clearly shows who has the fanboy glasses on. If the 360 implements a Wii-like motion controller with improvements, then that could be very interesting, especially since its not being forced on the consumers.

I keep hearing about the rumors of a ultra-blu-360, if true, it would be good only because it would be MS eliminating Sony best advantage.

And games, only a delusional fanboy as yourself would even try to compare ps3 to 360's library of games and come up with pathetic excuses that rating systems dont work. yeah, ok, keep telling yourself that and keep waiting for your AAA games on ps3.

[yanikins111]

<Cough> Digital Distribution is the future <cough>

Enjoy Semi HD movies on your 596 memory sticks.

Anyone who doesnt agree that a HDD is needed is purely and simply in denial and its that backwards thinking that resulted in the abortion we call the core(arcade) in the first place. Its holding up an entire generation. IMO devs should abandon the 360 in droves and make good games for the ps3. Games that are not limited by 7.something gig dvd's, and no hdd.

[Xemnas]

People cant take the truth so they give Disagrees and try to take your talking power away(bubbles)

[Drekken]

Its sad. Cut them slack... their referbished console isnt back home yet.

[7h3ultim8p00]

Drekken, if ONLY you could spell...you might have been slightly funnier.

It's funny watching fanboys own themselves.

[Citizen Cook]

M$ fixed it with the Elite. Last F**KING YEAR!

However, PS3rd STILL has no games, crap exclusives, and a bad system to develop for. Its too expensive, has a crap controller with the analogue sticks STILL in the wrong F**KING place! They dropped the ball!

Why are people moving away from Sony to M$ and Nintendo? Why won;t they have the HUGE marketshare they had lasdt gen? They dropped the F**KING ball!

My friends were tired of PS1,2,3, the wanted a REAL F**KING name for the thrid system, not a F**KING number!

They wanted a DECENT pad! They wanted the analogue sticks in the right place! Sony pulled out the PS1 pad AGAIN only took of the F**KING RUMBLE!

I mean, WTF? Late to the party, no exclusives, over priced, FORCING Blu-gay on people that don't want ti just to searve Sonys own agendure....

They even STOLER the spiderman film titles design for their case! These guys COMPLETELY lack any kind of innovative sense!

GTA was the biggest game of this gen and they GAVE it to M$. M$ will reap the rewards... last gen, sony had GTA 3 only on the PS2 for years before M$ got it. And they benefited from that...

Next time, Sony won;t SEE GTA 5... it'll be Xbox 720 EXCLUSIVE!

HA HA HA HA!

[alexM]

ELITE is the KING OF RROD

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/resu...

that DEFECTIVE BOX 3 FIX ME is suitable for one thing ---RROD

IT has no games GEARS,BISOHOCK and MASS EFFECT are all on PC too

Mass effect and Bioshock are coming to PS3 too

:)

[LevDog]

How can you state the Ps3 has crap games.. when there was a recent article stating the Wii leads the Consoles with crap titles and 360 is in second place and Ps3 is last in crap games and first in quality..

Wii was like 15% of its games were good.. 360 was like 26% and Ps3 was 33%.. So to say Ps3 has Crap games is false.. Wii and 360 have crap games.. While Ps3 has higher quality

so take your giant library of failures and shove it.. Jk Im really a nice guy

Friends?

[zapass]

an accident in pre-historical gaming

[PimpHandHappy]

its not over for anyone

360 will sell software like it has been and the PS3 will continue with the work of increasing install base

If the PS3 is close to matching 360 software sales its all because ppl where buying PS3 for the game

we will know soon enough

about 2 months for the full impact

[Dark General]

I don't really get this article. He speaks like well gta4 has already struck GOLD for the 360 and not the ps3 along with the 360 having just a year as the Ps3. But if i'm not mistaken (correct me if i'm wrong) but hasn't the Ps3 outsold the 360 more this year worldwide and in NA more than the 360 has outsold the Ps3 so far this year?

[wow4u]

Extinction? Earth to this idiot (and the others in this forum).

19M Xbox 360 owners think you're foolish.

[Homicide]

And 1/3 of the consoles died.

[Whoooop]

"And 1/3 of the consoles died." lol

They haven't even reached 25 mill which is the xbox mark and sales have hit brick wall...

:)

[princejb134]

like they said 1/3 of those have died
making consumers buy the console all over again

[Angelitos]

Uh, more PS3s were sold. The guy who wrote this aricle should of just shut up.

[gnothe1]

last year the 360 had a WAY better line up than the PS3 an what happen!! NOTHING. as thats the same things thats gonna happen this year with the PS3 having a slightly better line up. after MGS4 what else does the PS3 have big coming out this year!!

RFOM 2 =GEARS 2
MGS4 = splinter cell
LBP = banjoo, MEH!! for both
multiplates, I also said BIG GAMES so Haze is unproven an so is KILLZONE 2, they both have POTNETIAL to be big but nobody knows!!

[avacadosnorkel]

Splinter Cell is on par with Metal Gear?
And you're trying to say Banjo measures up with LBP?

Whoa. You beat to your own drummer, Holmes.

[etownone]

actually he is half right,

As much as I like Splinter Cell, its safe to assume that MGS has a much larger fanbase.

But to say an unproven IP like LBP is better than Banjo? Maybe you haven't played Banjo, but those games were on par if not better than the Mario 64, so I would definitely go with Banjo over LBP.

As of Now, IMHO, LBP looks like a great PSN game, something for the casual looking for a quick fix.

[Dark General]

Did you just compare Splinter Cell to MGS? I like Splinter Cell alot (great ending for double agent) but it's not in the same league as MGS in my honest opinion. Also i think Resistance is over rated (never played gears so i can't comment there) but hopefully Killzone 2 will come out this year as it's the only FPS i'm remotely interested in (Haze may end up good but i don't give a rats ass about it). Banjo, well rare haven't made a really good game in a while, while i think LittleBigPlanet will be a great game. But later this year other than the games you named there's Tekken 6, Soccom: Confrontations,and possibly the next motorstorm.

[Whoooop]

"last year the 360 had a WAY better line up than the PS3 an what happen!! NOTHING"

eeeeeeeeeerrrn WRONG... buddy

What to know what happened??? PS3 ---> OUTSOLD <--- the 360 last year. 360 had their best line-up and it couldn't outsell the PS3.

Now this year let me tell you what's going to happen.... PS3 will outsell the 360 by a larger margin than last year.

Simple

:)

[princejb134]

RFOM 2 =GEARS 2
i think gears is better
MGS4 = splinter cell
i believe splinter cell has nothing on mgs, not only is mgs has a larger fan base it also has a better storyline
LBP = banjoo,
how can you compare these 2, they are both different in every way

[yanikins111]

You wont compare LBP with Banjo, yet you compare a First to Third person shooter? What do they have in common? Guns and monsters?

Shouldnt we compare banjo to R&C? Never played any of them but they look similar...

[avacadosnorkel]

everybody also said HD-DVD used the Paramount buyout to save HD-DVD

[Doctor Who]

August 4 dlc ? will anyone still be interested in gta4 anymore by then ? i will have moved on

[LevDog]

If thats what 50mill gets you is outdated DLC..

then you can keep it 360.. Ill take KZ2 R2 and Socom over that anyday

[Doctor Who]

so August 4 gta4 dlc ? will anyone still be interested in gta4 anymore by then ? i will have moved on

[avacadosnorkel]

I'll probably try to finish the game someday, but it's NO fun driving the way it handles so I just take cabs to the missions, and when I get to the missions it's not too fun.

I wish I could just watch all the cut scenes as a movie together without having to suffer through playing it anymore

[PoSTedUP]

360 not that far ahead cansider a year head start and more sales on gtaiv, sony makes plenty of money on 2,500 dollar lcd sony bravios let alone their other sh*t. and the ps2 still makeing good money, its still early the ps3 just started. just wait till the ps3 slim come out then talk, and wen socom come out its ova

[tehReaper]

No offense, but in my honest opinion, SOCOM looks horrible compared to other things the PS3 and 360 have coming out. It won't top COD4, much less any other game. May be the best SOCOM to date, but nothing will be "ova" because of it.

[pp]

when socom comes out its ova. your joking right

[LaChance]

now SOCOM !!!!!!!!!! is gonna murder the 360 ?????!!!!!!! LOOOL

Uncharted didnt , R and C didnt , Hsword didnt , Lair didnt , GTA4 ( Iremember Sony fanboys saying that nobody knew GTA54 was cioming to 360 and how its a Playstation franchize and how casual gamers are very loyal to Sony bla bla bla )didnt .

And I bet we'll see the "wait till xxxxx comes out" comments after MGS4 , Haze. In fact I bet we'll be seeing the same old comments till end 2010/2011

[cr33ping_death]

i could have bought it for my 360, all of my live buddies were telling me to get it for the 360, but i didnt want to take any risks of my refurb(yes i already sent it in once for repair) 360 to die on me while playing GTA IV

[paracardium]

august?? I'll be playing other games by then.

[Spydiggity]

the xbox is NOT in trouble!!!!!

these articles are getting ridiculous. every day some jerk that nobody cares about feels he needs to write an article about how one of the systems is in trouble. all the systems are selling, games are selling, the industry is booming. JUST STFU!!!! Leave us alone and let us play our games.

[kingnick]

Really glad I didn't pickup GTAIV with a PS3.

A mate bought the PS3 version and had issues with it crashing during the first cut-scene but managed to get past it on the third try only to have constant freezing in-game, reinstalled and tried the game again but it killed his BD drive so now its off to Sony.

He's so desperate he returned the PS3 version and got the 360 version but I wouldn't be handing over my money until the issues are fixed.

I don't feel like sending a PS3 to Sony (2+ week repair turnaround) or 360 to MS (would be the third time).

[ECM0NEY]

You must fvcking suck at driving lol. learn to play video games. i cant believe your even on this site lol.

[Gondee]

Man, this site is all re-stating obivious things or making up crap. its very anoying.

[DFresh]

All I'm gonna say is that GTA IV moved consoles for both sides but from the worldwide stand point everything seems to be in Sony's favor plus a GTA IV PS3 Bundle is coming out soon that can create major sales for Sony.
GTA IV may of saved the 360 from a quicker death but technology in the long run and this year's line up shows everybody is all eyes on Sony.
360 is the now PS3 is the future!

[JokerSGS]

In all seriousness this is typical Sony procedures. From PS1 to PS2 the top titles like Tomb Raider, and Crash Bandicoot among others were let go and people may have question these moves but they went down hill. Sony probably assumed the same but should have had some other form of a deal going to solidify their win this console rather than make this a slugfest for no reason. Sony could have really killed MS before this generation even started and then aim to tackle the reborn monster known as Nintendo.

[Neo604]

I haven't thought so but it make sense cause 360 is low tech peice of fire starter.

[JasonX43]

GTA 4 is a great game no matter what system you play it on. Yes, recently, I've been having problems with my copy, but all you have to do is eject the game and put it back in or sign out of the Playstation Network and you're fine.(Til the inevitable patch is released!)

[air1]

do you know where the ps3 didn't outsell the 360? in north america, you know the place that you most likely live in. so the majority here sais f*ck off.. the 360 had an awsome year in 07, and now moving into a srong 08. sony isnt gana give you a great game untill 6/12/08.. that to me looks like they only own half of 08 if they can pull it off with no more delay's.

look if you want great games TODAY the 360 is the way to go, only ps3 fanboys would use the rrod as an excuse. the only reason i dont have a ps3 yet is simple NO GAMES! now you tell me witch problem you'd rather have, and be honest..

it's funny how ppl say ng2 isnt a system seller, since gears has a 2 on it it wont sell systems. blah, blah. so what's the new sony fan thing? if it doesnt sell systems its not a good game? you ppl are lame..

so i guess ppl are gana run out and buy a ps3 cause of lbp, lol.. inovative but gay.. we cant put in resistance or kill zone cause it has a 2, but we all know gears is gana saw those mofo's in half any way..

every body seems to forget that this is sony's 3rd console they have a huge fan base that are thick headed, i mean look at how the 360 sh*ted on the ps3 with games in 07 and you fanys didnt jump in.. why?! cause you wanted to wait over a year for sony to support its ps3 with great games. this is micro's 2nd console, think what you want but they are a threat. sony had this gen set up by the ps2 to crush all comp. out the gate but it didn't. so let the games begin.. oh, wait sony is still at the start line fixing that flat.

[Mc Fadge]

Where to begin...

Just because the PS3 didn't outsell the 360 in America, doesn't mean much to the rest of the world, such as me, in Australia. There is also the fact that the 360 was out about a year earlier, but whatever. The 360 did indeed have a VERY strong 07 game-lineup-wise. It also has a decent looking 08 with Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, and Gears 2. However, I, and many others, believe the PS3's lineup for 2008 to be stronger than the 360's, that's all.

They're not going to give us a great game till the 12th of July? Oh damn! How dare that! The 3 day less wait for Ninja Gaiden 2 is obviously a HUGE difference in waiting times. But, then again, depending on what you think of the game, we have Haze coming out this month ;D

To date, both systems have great games to play. And any consumer who is worried about the reliability of a product would be worried about the 360 system failure rate, that's common sense, not fanboyism. Which would I rather have? Well, obviously the PS3, as shown by the fact I own and happily play one daily with my invisible games :3

I've never said if a game doesn't sell systems it isn't good, nor have any others I know. The thing is, when a game sells a system, it sells a system. The reason people say that Gears of War 2 MIGHT NOT be much of a system seller, is because Gears of War was on the same system as the sequel is launching on. Thus, the audience isn't including past fans of the franchise, although Ninja Gaiden may do this to an extent.

LBP? Homosexual? Hardly. Gay as in fun? Definitely ;D!

Resistance is in the same boat as Gears of War in terms of pulling in a crowd from previous consoles, but Killzone did have a fanbase on the PS2. And the comment on 'sawing' 'those mofos in half', those being Killzone and Resistance confuses me as to what you're actually proving...

You're blaming the number of PS3 owners out there on the fact that we're 'thickheaded'. Hmmm... Nice attempt at an argument? The reason I didn't buy a 360 was because I wanted the PS3. Because I knew what I was getting and it was what I wanted. That's not to say that the 360 didn't drop any good games, they just weren't great enough to make me buy a 360 instead. Maybe it's because I was too 'thickheaded'?

A threat? That means Sony's in a comfortable position at the moment :3

Ah well, at least Sony's fixing that flat rather then putting tape over it and riding ahead anyway ;D

But this is all talk, some facts, some opinions. Time will show the 'victor'. Just, try to think a bit more when making comments like this.

I'll have have you know I have a small head thankyouverymuch <3

[7h3ultim8p00]

wow

[Malacath]

WTF is this site going on about. The 360 was no where near extinct before GTA4 came out. It was still selling well.
In fact I don't think there will be any real losers in the generations console war.

And GTA should never be exclusive to any format. If Rockstar had have made the game exclusive to just one format they would have lost a lot of money. Being multi-platform is the best thing for the GTA franchise.

[ScottEFresh]

When you say Choice of the hardcore gamer you really mean choice of the hardcore idiot right? GARBAGE PRODUCTS FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!

[whoelse]

If it came out in October, GTA would have been a serious threat to the PS3. But because it was delayed, the tides turned. It came out on PS3 high momentum rather than the other way round.

[jinn]

im assuming that a PS3 fanboy wrote the article

[captainjy]

This is a fine example of why people shouldn't be allowed to post blog crap. This "news" is garbage and should never have been posted. If the 360 is close to extinction, the POS3 is right there. Over 10 million users on Live is far from it. Idiots.