Gran Turismo 6 microtransaction pricing revealed

Polyphony digital has revealed the pricing of microtransaction packs present Gran Turismo 6.

[Kayant]

MT in £40/$60 needs to just die. A helping hand should not be needed what is the point of playing the game if you can buy your way past challenges?

"The issue is, will Gran Turismo's progression system be adversely affected by microtransactions? Eurogamer's Martin Robinson has been playing the game and tells me GT6's economy works exactly the same as GT5's, with progression, payouts and car prices very similar"

If the above is indeed true than at least this doesn't effect the way it's played traditionally. But the present of MT shouldn't exist in these games IMHO.

[come_bom]

Microtransactions... No thank you. They can keep it.

[bobsmith]

The good thing is all dlc is going to be free because they want to sell credits.

Also someone on GTplanet who has the game already posted a money glitch LOL ultimate karma just delete the updates if they patch it every time you want to make money.

[abzdine]

i prefer to play the game and unlock them for myself.
microtransaction? no way!! but it's same as DLC and people still say yes to them.

[indysurfn]

Okay the last time I got Gran Turismo I did not get into it because I'm getting tired of having to race crappy cars to get a license to get to the real game. They should drop that.

Micoros transactions all have one thing in common. From facebook to consoles. They have spots that are hard to get past without spending! Well if they make the yugo racing harder than it is so I can make a micro transaction then I think they have ruined the game. Blank Microsoft for bringing in the micro-transactions. And now Sony is competing by doing the same.

I think the gamer needs to make a stand and not buy the game. This is the last line drawn in the sand, don't buy it. Wait until the next racer from Sony which will be free or cheaper. Now if Gran Turismo comes out half price and have micro-transactions then that could offset it and make the game sell more. But full price plus Micro transaction games are avoided by me.

[HammadTheBeast]

"The video, below, showcases GT6's cars and reveals one of the top priced, the Jaguar XJ13, which costs 20 million credits. You can grind for it in traditional Gran Turismo fashion or you can buy it straight away if you drop £119.95 - that's the total you pay for two packs of 7m credits, two packs of 2.5m credits and one pack of 1m credits."

What the actual ****?

Pay twice the amount of the original game for a single car.

Seems legit. Even the Forza guys didn't drop this low, it's bullshit.

[SolidStoner]

@ bobsmith

cheats with money... its even worse than Microtransactions!!!!

but the irony!! :D same like GTA5...

[FamilyGuy]

The forza guys are intentionally driving you to buy their DLC, unlike GT6. The prices aren't meant to be extravagantly high for profits alone. Why would they want to let any yahoo with an extra $10 to be able to ignore the whole game and have one of the hardest to attain cars so easily?

I'm glad it's so highly priced, just means it's more worth it, like all the top cars have been in GT history.

Side note, the higher up you get, the more money you make per race. Once you get so high up making millions becomes easier so why would anyone ever spend $120 when the natural way is more... natural, it makes sense.

[badz149]

sigh...MT ha? why do we have to come to this? I hate MT in all retail games and I was vocal about it in Forza 5. but at least, in GT6 you will have 1000 car more than Forza 5 and 33 tracks as oppose to 14 in Forza 5.

and GT6 is a fully featured racer with night day cycle, dynamic weather and many more features not available in Forza 5. at least, those many extra features are not DLC eh?

[Why o why]

Sorry sony/pd..... not feeling it. Lets vote with our wallets people. Even if this isnt as bad as x or y I believe its a a slippery slope if we dont shut it down.

[curtis92]

I see what you're saying and I don't fully disagree but at the same time, a slippery slope is also wishing low sales on a franchise. Vote with your wallets by simply not buying MT. But not supporting the franchise will do more harm than good.

That's assuming you mean not to buy the game when you say to 'vote with our wallets.'

[boeso]

Word. Shut. It. Down.

[LiQuiZoN]

This isn't an MMO. You can't buy an advantage to win races. Races are performed in classes usually restricted by Power Points.

The only thing this gets you is "TIME" which to many adults is more valuable.

[PoSTedUP]

well said LiQ

i will still grind but i cant like i use to. GT is the hardest of the hardcore games and take serious time. if its not gamers getting softer and softer each generation bc of all these ridiculously easy games, its people not having enough time. these MTs are for both of them while the hardcore have the option to stay HARDCORE >:D!

[Seraphemz]

I wont get it now since it has MT...

http://www.90sreality.com/w...

[Mr_Writer85]

What's the difference between MT and cheats?

They both unlock things when you don't have the skills to do so without.

Expect now you are paying for those cheats.

Cheaters never prosper.

[AaronMK]

"The only thing this gets you is 'TIME' which to many adults is more valuable."

I'll spend my valuable time playing games that don't want to nickle and dime me.

[AaronMK]

@curtis92

If a franchise is going to move in the direction of micro-transactions, than yes I do wish low sales (actually, zero sales) on that franchise.

Having a gaming eco-system with a few less franchises is better than having one dominated by micro-transactions, and that is a vote I will make with my wallet.

[insomnium2]

@why

True. The entire free to play (with mt)is so cell phonish I just hate it. I don't want for everything to have a catch. I don't enjoy being on my heels like that all the time like I am being suckered into stuff unless I'm carefull. One game, one payment, 100% access. DLC is cool if it's done right though.

[Xsilver]

DriveClub better not follow this Trend or I'mma be Royally Pissed.

[MestreRothN4G]

Are you nuts?

Even retail titles are destroyed by MT now. Why do you think a F2P game won't be ruined by it?

Every major game design from now on will focus on it: progression walls and extortion.

[Xsilver]

@Mestre DriveClub isn't Free to Play :/

[Prime157]

I think your disagrees (in your reply to mest) are confused about what the PlayStation plus version is, lol

[Fluke_Skywalker]

@mestre
Just to clarify, Driveclub is not f2p, but the PS+ version which is free is not the whole game and thus by paying you can unlock the rest if the game. So in essence yes the PS+ version is kinda f2p.
The full version of the game is a full prices retail game which is not f2p. Although judging by the current state of affairs is likely to be littered with microtransactions anyway! I do sincerely hope not though.

[TheTwelve]

I can't support this mess.

P.S. I'm listening to people who are saying that the game will play the same as past GTs, and just allow for those who want to get ahead faster to pay if they wish.

We'll see.

[Narutone66]

As long as the cars are all available in-game and I could earn it by winning credits while driving and remove the earning cap for the game, I'm ok with that. The problem I had with GT5 is that for my region, I'm stuck with only up to 20 Million credits, anything I earned beyond that won't be credited, which is a bummer. I've been winning left and right in seasonal games but I'm stuck with only 20 million credits. But anyway, I got all the cars in GT5 and if all of it will carry over to GT6, I'll be very delighted.

[Prime157]

@naruto

You are fine with someone hopping in day one and getting a better car than you because they paid double?

[Narutone66]

Doesn't concern me as having a better car does not guarantee that you will win all the races. If your skills suck, the fastest cars won't help you. As for the races, if you are a long time GT5 gamer, you will know that each races have a corresponding PP where in you could not drive a car with more PP than what is required in the race. So a faster car with higher PP than what is allowed in the race is disqualified. I've driven cars with lower PP than most in the game and won the race. So, yes it doesn't bother me if they got it with MC, because I believe it's skills that's the deciding factor in a race and not the fastest car.

[Fluke_Skywalker]

@Naruto
I agree with all of your above comment except the last sentence. Current F1 proves that wrong :P
Not that Vettel isn't a great driver, but he isn't nearly as good as Alonso or Hamilton.

[LiQuiZoN]

Microtransactions to buy credits...Who really cares? It won't impact my enjoyment of the game at all. I can see the benefit of someone like me who is a grown professional, whose time is very limited and yet still wants to play the game.

I'd rather just slowly work my way through, but I don't see any impact regarding the end product. GT6 will be fantastic with a tremendous amount of content.

I think some of you people needs to "Check your Context". Instead of just "Wanting to be heard" on the internet. Make valid points. In the context of GT6 these micro-transactions are quite literally meaningless.

Example:
Buying extra Costumes for street fighter when the costumes are locked on the disk is a valid context for complaining.

Another example...
Buying special weapons in an MMO which you can use to enter PVP matches, which OVERPOWER the other players would also be an issue.

[MestreRothN4G]

When you hit the progression walls put there to force players into MT, remember this post of yours and how 'it doesn't affect you'.

It is a major design and business choice. It affects the whole game.

[Volkama]

Racing is the core of the game. That's the fun bit. Credits and progression are the metagame that 'drives' you to keep racing (pun).

The presence of MTs places a time/value proposition on those races and alters perception, the races become a chore.

They have no place, they are not acceptable. Not in this form anyway.

[LiQuiZoN]

I think that either both of you aren't as big gt fans as I am or don't see the context for what it is. It will have zero influence online. Also, most people who jump in a 700hp car without adept skills and track knowledge will end up mowing the tracks grass instead.

This is not a bad form of micro transactions. If you disagree I would like to see valid points presented which would affect my view on the subject matter.

@mestherroth I totally agree with you IF Polyphony has purposely put in progression walls (like mobile games) to force your hand in micro trans , but what your saying is pure speculation. There is nothing factual about it. The progression will be the same as past GTs from my understanding.

[Debaitable]

If the MTs present still allow people to enjoy the game traditionally with no pay wall then it shouldn't be a problem. Not of all us have the time to clock in 120hrs in a game. I'm all for it as long it doesn't bring any advantage to other players like all those F2P games.

[Guwapo77]

As much as I love GT series and played it since GT1, I will not purchase this game or any full priced game that has MT. NBA2K14 shocked the hell out of me with it...I'd return it if I could.

[Debaitable]

But you can still enjoy the game by yourself and it doesn't give anyone online an advantage? It just helps people who do t have the time to clock in 100+ hours.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

Thank the pc gamers for getting the ball rolling lol

MT & sometimes f2p is wack..

[showtimefolks]

i will play this the old school way and earn my credits and my cars, but if there is one i can't get to in few month than i don't mind paying a little to get there

its about having options, not everyone wants to grind.

[theshonen8899]

This isn't a popular opinion but if the core game has been unaffected by microtransactions, what exactly is the problem? Valve introduced MTs into TF2 and it's been working great. I think people need to understand that not all MTs are exploitative.

In my opinion, if MTs don't affect GT6's core game, then I'm glad they included it. It means the developers get more money from people who have money to spend and I get better quality games. On the other hand, if they cripple the core gameplay (Battlefield Play4Free/Blacklight Retrobution's "temporary" weapon B$) then yeah, it's horrible.

[novcze]

I don't have time to grind (had enough of it in GT5), pricing of in game credits is ridiculous so I will just not buy GT6, first GT ever I will not buy ...

[Godmars290]

Oh joy: more pay-to-play BS...

At the very least, hope Sony at least has the decency not to offer a car that costs more than the whole freakin game. Allow cars to earned with a reasonable amount of effort.

Bet the gaming bean-counters will conform such shortly now that there's something to work with.

[Xsilver]

"At the very least, hope Sony at least has the decency not to offer a car that costs more than the whole freakin game"

Ikr when i saw that i was like WTF.

[HammadTheBeast]

No.... it has the audacity to off a car that costs almost twice as much as the game.

[Xsilver]

@Hammad
but the grinding level is the same in GT6 as it was in Gt5 so you can just play to get that car if you really want it without hard work then by all means buy it.

[PoSTedUP]

its not pay2play at all. its the same GT game with the option to buy your in-game credits. still more #of available cars, similar prices and same ammount of credits you would get winning a race. the prices are also so ridiculous i doubt many people would buy them. im sure a lot of people would buy the 500,000Cr tho for a few bucks, that many credits can go a long way when buying and tuning the least expensive cars. i dont care for MT but im glad to see its not going to affect my game. i like gringing a 24 hour endurance race to earn my merits. you can only max tune a car so much when racing online; whether you earn your $1m car or buy it, a race is a race, and it all comes down to your skill of driving and knowledge of tuning and optimizing your car for that race.

[Death]

Yeah, I don't see what the fuss is all about. Just like in Forza, you can buy credits with real money or you can earn in game currency to buy the cars. The game is not impacted by microtransactions since they are optional and the same cars can be earned.

[curtis92]

Like with most things this issue isn't black & white. In this case (and maybe forza's case too, I'm not totally sure) the game is how it's always been. They're just giving lazy gamers a way to get through stuff faster by using real money. In THAT instance, I don't have an issue. But if it's pay to win or if they severely punish you for not paying more, then there's a big issue.

[guitarded77]

So far, it's just pay to unlock faster. That doesn't bother me... I'm a grinder.

[weekev15]

At least your proud of it...grindr.com

[guitarded77]

Funny... but no.

[thisismyaccount]

Well.. to be honest there is no difference between getting a car for $50 or getting ingame currency and use virtual money to get said car for $50 or more like the Jaguar X13!

Anyone knows, if one can re-sell virtual goods gained from GT6 to other people around the world?

Grind the same event over and over again and sell those 200x Nissan GTR for $1 per car, is this the future? :(

[torchic]

it's not pay-to-play, it's more play-to-win.

people who buy credit will be able to access better cars easier and that's the real issue here.

I've been reading the comments in this tread and people have been misdirecting their anger. you get 100% of the content, all the tracks, all the cars from day one with your disc but if you want to access all of it faster then you can buy your way to it.

I wonder how PD will sort this out for multiplayer.

[Majin-vegeta]

Maybe add some sort of level system.

E.G. LVL1-5 you can only use certain cars.The higher you're level the more cars you can use but have to play on tracks according to your level?Seems like a good idea to me.What's your take

[Morpheuzpr]

Every car has a PP (performance points) score or index. In career mode every race or event has a PP restriction and a tire restriction. In online mode you can put a PP restriction on the races as well as a multitude of other options as well.

[blib]

Check. Never buy Gran Turismo 6. Next.

[MestreRothN4G]

I wasn't going to buy it anyway. Now I'm not buying it even more!

[mt]

well as much as I hate MT but this type of transaction is not forcing you to buy it, only lazy people who have extra $ will buy this BS. you can buy the game and play it just like any other previous GT games. but it looks like you are not planning to get the game from the get go.

[Volkama]

There seem to be 2* big opinion camps on MTs

1- Absolutely hate them, ruins games and it's a slippery slope that threatens the hobby
2- Happy to ignore them and play as though they are not there

If you buy the game and ignore the transactions then your voting group 2, and not protesting at all.

If you actually want them to stop putting in MTs buying the game doesn't really get that point across. But it's a difficult situation, as you miss games you want to play. I haven't bought Forza.

*In theory there is a 3rd camp that like to use micro-transactions, but nobody has met one of them and lived to talk about it.

[JonnyBigBoss]

Pass.

[DCfan]

Count me with you, Boss.

[ElementX]

LOL and everyone talked about MS doing microtranactions...

[PoSTedUP]

because thoes games came with a lack of content and harder to earn stuff to sell MTs. this isnt the same at all. it comes with even more content that is available to all, same pricing economy, but with the option to buy credits. i dont like MT so i dont have to use them and its no going to affect my game.

[Nujabes_]

People like you have gotten gaming into this mess.

Not so long ago, if you didn't have time, couldn't be arsed or whatever, you'd stick in a cheat code. Instant invincibility, everything unlocked, etc.
These days they charge you 120 quid for a digital bloody car and people try to justify it.

[---stone---]

Forza 5 isnt as robust as Forza 4. Eventually the content cut from F4 will be able to buy to add to F5 in addition to M$/Turn10's microtransaction model for the game.

GT6 on the other hand is as robust and full featured as GT5. Now Polyphony/Sony are going down this route. It was/is inevitable for them, much like just about all game companies going to do this.

Its almost like the lesser of two evils.

Forza 5, gimped, compared to Forza 4 for $60 bucks + microtransactions.

GT6, just as equal, if not more robust as GT5 for $60 bucks + microtransations.

Microtransactions are bullshit. Now its just a matter of how deep you want to be in if you want to drive through the pasture... or if at all.

Really thinking about now not even picking up GT6 until there is like an ultimate/goty/xl edition.

[LOGICWINS]

"GT6 on the other hand is as robust and full featured as GT5."

You got an early copy of the game?! Post your impressions man.

[YodaCracker]

Forza 5 is not gimped for the sake of microtransactions. It's gimped because it's a launch game! It's being built for a brand new console. It's rushed! If it were releasing on the 360, it would be just as full a game as you could want it to be. And there would still be optional microtransactions.

[FlunkinMonkey]

Refuse to buy any piece of shit with these kind of transactions. Makes my blood boil.

[Death]

Take a deep breath and think. You can play the game in it's entirity without Microtransactions. You can earn the cars by racing or you can break out your wallet and buy the cars. You have the choice. Expansion and add-on content is entirely different, but not required to play the game.

[Imalwaysright]

That may be true now but what about the next game, if these kind of practices are successful? Don't you think that greed will kick in and publishers and devs will abuse the system?
I can already imagine "If they didn't have a problem paying when it wasn't needed, they sure as hell won't have a problem now that is needed".

I really like GT but this time PD won't be seeing my money. I'm not going to support these kind of practices.

[DOMination-]

You can play the game as normal. The people who WILL pay for these won't affect YOUR game and they will fund future dlc, allowing it to be free. Why NOT give the option for people to waste their money (imo) on stuff they can get through grinding. If they want to do that, why should it be any concern to anybody else.

The model worked great in Mass Effect 3 multiplayer. I didn't bother with them but many did. It meant Bioware were able to release a shed load of new maps, classes and weapons all for free.

If you can play the game the same way always, then I don't see why this should be so badly looked upon.

[Nujabes_]

I remember the insane reaction people here had when Forza 5 was announced to have Microtransactions... I wonder what the reaction will be now.

[PoSTedUP]

they will probably argue that GT didnt reduce their cars or tracks (but increased them) nor made it harder to earn credits so people would want to buy MTs like forza did... but idk thats just logic... >_>

[thisismyaccount]

Well... we don´t know yet how hard it is to gain 20Mio. credits. Assuming its the same as in GT5.. if so, i don´t see where the problem is.

Sure, its still BS! but you get 100xtrack layouts, 1200 cars and what not for $60. As long those "MT-Popups" are not forced upon the player... the only thing one can do is to ignore´em(like in FM5).

:(

[Morpheuzpr]

^^ you can make more than 30k in the fist hour of so of the game. So far from what I've seen is mostly the same economy as GT5.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Blackdeath_663]

also GT6 doesn't prompt you to use micro transaction unlike forza, if you never knew about it before hand you would have had no idea you could buy credit of PSN also the prices for cars using in-game cash has yet to be finalised

[Benjammin25]

It's disappointing to see Gran Turismo also go this route. BS like Microtransactions need to stay in crap like FarmVille where they belong.

[Scrumptious]

I guess if you offer the microtransaction option in a game than this is the way to do it. You can still enjoy the game as you would without paying extra.

Call me old fashioned but I am not liking this trend of paying on top of the games original price.

[BABY-JEDI]

All I can say is this. Sony , MS & anyone else out there looking for cheap money. You know where you can shove your micro-transactions.
: P

[Kyur4ThePain]

This is not MT. It's just a way to make progress easier / faster. You can still earn everything the normal way by playing the game. There is nothing extra to gain by paying and nothing is missing from the game if you don't pay.

[torchic]

I remember when EA introduced this in Battlefield 3 and it was very tempting. pay, get a "fast track" and get all the really nice weapons instantly (I really wanted the FAMAS) but I just grinded it out...

I can proudly say that I've never bought a single piece of DLC/MT in my life so I wanted to continue the streak :)

I still don't like the idea of MT in GT though, I'll think about it very carefully before supporting PD

[Blastoise]

Microtransactions in full priced games need to stop.

I hope Driveclub doesn't have any of this BS

[Kayant]

I can't believe people are disagreeing with you. SMFH.

I guess people want a future where you pay to buy each weapon, etc after paying full price for the game because even though this implementation doesn't impact on the traditional playstyle it seems that doesn't mean we won't be seeing more adventurous testing in future.

"I hope Driveclub doesn't have any of this BS"

I don't think it will based on the Sony's trend so far with next-gen but we don't really know much on DC to say so. The only thing we know is the PS+ version will be the full game which can also be platinumed. The difference is that some cars & tracks will be missing.

[Debaitable]

Well the MTs aren't for you obviously. It's for people who do not have the time to sit and play for thousands of hours. If that's not you why ruin it for people who it's actually directed towards? Plus the MTs help fund DLC so it can be available for free for everyone.

[Dark11]

DON'T BUY THIS GAME PEOPLE!!!

[Majin-vegeta]

Sorry i'm buying it.I don't have to spend a single dime.I can still get my cars the old fashion way.

[denero1]

Not really >.> your going to feel this intense grind like never before

you'll work twice as hard to get that car you want or you'll have this constant pay now option floating around you while you slowly grind away

[ELpork]

Guess I'm not gonna be playing racing games for a while.

[Robotronfiend]

GRID 2 is free on PS+. Might satiate you for a little while if you have a PS3 and PS+.

[ELpork]

Naawww son, The first grid is ma jam! Far better OST IMO.

[ritsuka666]

What joke you are,Sony.........

[DCfan]

Agreed. I was really ready to get GT6 on Day 1, but this...
This ndustry will hopefully die someday for all the shifting.

[Nodoze]

Thanks Polyphony. You just confirmed my non purchase! DLC is ridiculous. I will wait until it is selling for 10 bucks with all DLC included. After all that is what this generation has taught us. Only fools pre-order.

[AnteCash]

What Dlc, its stupid credits.

[PoSTedUP]

everything is still included! all 1,200 cars! wth is wrong with people lmao. its the Same game, nothing is taken out or added through DLC. if you dont buy MTs you just play the game regular, everything is still available for you to unlock and the pricing isnt increased, its the same.

[JEECE]

I don't understand the issue as long as the structure of the game isn't affected. Not trying to troll, but can someone, without just saying "slippery slope," explain the issue with microtransactions when the structure of the game isn't changed? If they made it take twice as long to earn in-game currency as it took in GT5, I get why that is a problem, and in those cases I hate MT as well. But if it is totally optional, what is the issue?

[BluP]

I'm upset because it is a "slippery slope". I have no problem with paying real $$ to help you advance in a game (not everyone can spend 60+ hrs/week on a game).

But whenever consumers allow a company to do something like this, it ALWAYS escalates. Always. Look at the DLC fiasco last gen. If we let this slide, Sony (or PD in this case) will think it's okay to add more MT to future games. Then they'll start taking away parts of the main game, and put it behind a MT (similar to what they did with DLC). Next thing you know, every game being made feels only half-done (Rage) and stuff that should have been part of the game from the start will be a MT.

It is a slippery slope.

[JEECE]

The thing is, these don't always go the wrong way. Do you play the Elder Scrolls games? One of the most infamous early uses of MT was the horse armor in Oblivion, and we didn't see anything like that in Skyrim.

Another example is the online pass situation of last gen. People said that was a slippery slope as well. Plenty of games with online passes sold very well (Uncharted, some EA and Ubisoft games) but now Online Passes are pretty much a thing of the past.

If people buy GT6 but people don't use the microtransactions, won't that be the best way to show Sony we don't want them? If they don't benefit from them in GT6, will they really push them further in later games?

[PoSTedUP]

the issue you are asking for is Ignorance. there really shouldnt be an issue if they knew that its the same game with all available features, cars and prices. if they care that other people wan to spend real money for fake money, thats just a personal issue.

@sonypony. they would have done that with gt5, and now with gt6. but its the same game. any dlc in gt5 really was extra; the game was huge. but i see what youre saying, but i doubt it will go that route with gt, they would hav done that already, i think its clear what their intentions are. this isnt scummy MS were talking about, lmao.

[BluP]

I refuse to buy a $60 game that includes MT.

Even if the game plays exactly like previous GTs, I still refuse to buy into this crap. I guarantee that this is a test. If sales are good, and they make good $$ off MT, you'd better believe that this trend will continue.

The reason that I'm so against it is that this is Sony's "Just the tip...". It's going to snowball from here. If this is considered a success, it will become current-gen's norm. Then we'll start to see games that are based solely around MTs. It's going to be like paying $60 for a FTP game.

What they need to do is sell digital for much less, and advertise sales on PSN. Basically, copy Steam. Sony and pubs make a lot more $$ off digital than retail. Just no MT!!! I'm so pissed off right now!!!!

[denero1]

your talking to some of the most loyal sony fans ever -_-

your not going to convince them that anything is wrong

[kenshiro100]

Give me a freaking break.

Look at the people above you genius. They're annoyed about it.

[BluP]

I'm a loyal Sony fan!!! Have been since PS1. It doesn't mean that Sony gets a free pass though.

[Ravenor]

Do you realize how debilitating the average paywall/grind is in most free to play games? If your nightmare scenario was to actually come true, and hard limits like number of turns, or weapons needing to be bought with in game credits with 24hour timers. People would freak out, not just the people who pay attention but your average consumer.

There are limits and this is well within them, and depending on how it's presented I have my doubts you'll even notice it's there. It all comes down to how the microtransactions are presented in game or within the store, if it's as brazen as Forza then I can see why something like this would rub people the wrong way. It's just important to note that Gran Turismo has always been a grind, but if pay outs and such are similar to Gran Turismo 5... what's the issue?

Don't say "Slippery slopes", full priced retail games will never be the exact same as F2P or Freemium games. It's not a valid argument against GT6, and it's not a real indicator of where gaming will head over the next 5-6 years in the console space.

[leahcim]

MT model is the cancer of videogames, I would not be surprised if this dicontent among us player is reflected on the sales of the game.

Because of MT I am not buying GT 6 .

[Minato-Namikaze]

But it doesnt affect you at all if you play normally.

[leahcim]

Ok play normally then realise that there are better things for you if you pay additional $, how I miss the good old gaming days when:

PURCHASED GAME = COMPLETE GAMING EXPERIENCE

now this MT are a CANCER seriously.

[Godmars290]

The issue isn't the MT. Not really.

What's really the issue is how long it would take to normally to earn the car. If the game's been wholly restructured around MT, or if they're just there to be there.

[Dehnus]

Seems like only Nintendo still does the classic model, so... when can we welcome you back into the family? Unless you two idiotic groups want to keep this console wars going with comparing spec sheets and being arses to each other ;)

[yewles1]

"Sawwy, kan't affowd a Newntendo Netwoik accaunt foa 50 cents becus im too yung."

XD

[Majin-vegeta]

Lmfao thanks my man now i'm choking on my salsa and it burns you have earned a bubble xD.

[Dehnus]

Aww that's okay little guy, *gives the bearded toddler a Lolypop before trying to hide his disgust and mumbling "That's one ugly toddler..."*.

On Nintendo playing on line is FREE! :D

[yewles1]

"On Nintendo playing on line is FREE! :D"

You mean like THIS GAME that you're commenting on, that's on the PS3, which doesn't require a fee to play online either?

ROFLMFAO!!!

[yewles1]

Indeed a slippery slope...

Buy the game with MT's: Potentially increase the possibilities of more MT's in the future.
Buy the game w/o MT's: Be sure to speak up on why it's MT's are not a good idea to pubs and devs.
Don't buy the game at all: Expect more MT's in the future under the excuse of "we need to keep afloat in this business."

Voting with your wallet isn't the only way, as that can ALWAYS be interpreted differently by those who only wish to see differently.

[kingPoS]

It's kinda now funny that I think about it. In 2010 when I first got GT5 I had to grind for months on end to buy the X1. Some time later, the seasonal's came along and made things... Easier.

Didn't PD mention seasonal events were making a return, granted It'll be reduced in payout's, but they'll still be there. In Gran Turismo 6, I'll vote with my wallet by ignoring micro-transactions all together.

It's as simple as!

Gateway MT6706 2008

[Hicken]

As long as it doesn't change the way progression was done in GT5, it's fine.

If, however, they've pulled a Forza and made it excrutiatingly difficult to earn in-game credits, then I will not be happy.

[kingPoS]

From what I've seen on that hour long gameplay from those inside sim racing guys, the payout is largely unchanged. I can't confirm but over at gtplanet, some people with early copies of GT6 have reported much of the same thing.

You're rewarded in much the same manner as you were in GT5. Just say no to MT's, no one's forcing you to purchase them.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[XboxFun]

http://n4g.com/news/1401391...

It's ok that Sony does it for GT but apparently people are dumb for accepting it in Forza right Hicken? Sony fanboy logic at it's crispiest.

And have you played Forza, excruciatingly difficult? Spoken like a true Forza noob. It's not excruciatingly difficult, challenging yes, as it sould be.

[ipach]

at least all the cars are accessible through gameplay unlike those money-only car packs its rival is promoting...

[denero1]

Ohhhh so if it's microsoft and forza we all team up and bash it but if it's sony we all make excuses for it and try to say it has more content in game :|

[KakashiHotake]

man, I remember a time when if you wanted to get through levels quick you could just get cheat codes. I used to get some from the magazine "Tips and Tricks" or just go online at gamespot.com in the cheats section. They don't even have a cheat section anymore that's just how much things have changed. How the hell did we get to the point where Microtransactions take the place of codes? I guess Game Genie would be considered blasphamy under todays standards.

[AaronMK]

Game Genie would be considered theft.

[MatrixxGT]

Miss those days man. Farewell circle square circle square l2 r2 left down right up left down right up.

[solidboss07]

So what if people feel the need to buy their way through the game? It will not make them drive any better, so that when online they will be nowhere near any rooms with normal tyres and zero driving aids. Why would they be when they cannot compete. I use a Dual shock and am pretty rubbish, but often hold my own, or at least put up a fight online with the correct company, and I enjoy that.
I wish I was better, but I don't need driving aids, and Shuffle Race to even the competition.
I have faith in Polyphony. Have you seen the difference with 'Standard' models in GT6 vs GT5? It looks great...... great if you keep realistic expectations so that we canbe pleasantly surprised.
If micro transactions fill Polyphony's coffers so that they can more quickly create Premium models, then good.

[yewles1]

Buying an expensive car isn't going to make you a better driver, most expensive cars in GT are rare exotics from history gone by. A 20 million credit Jaguar XJ13 isn't exactly going be 1000hp, it's a rare museum piece that's to be appreciated and collected.

[solidboss07]

How is that different from what I said, in regards to driving?? And micro transactions don't limit anybody to buying anything.

[yewles1]

lol, my comment was my way of agreeing. (I didn't click disagree, BTW)

[SoulSercher620]

I don't support microtransactions for any game. Never have and never will. It's a waste of money plain and simple. I'll still get this game and grind the old fashioned way like I have for every GT. Show Sony we're against this by not buying MT. The full game will suffice.

[memots]

buying credit in game is not micro transaction per say. its more like a shotcut dlc, they have that in many games now.

I will not buy a single of those credit since i enjoy building up my collection by winning. Not by buying.

[indysurfn]

Looks like, micro transactions are here do to Microsoft fanboys selling out by buying these games. And now Sony is feeling they need to do the same to keep their money chest as high.

This is partially gamers fault! Companies will do what you allow them to do. You have to be intelligent enough to figure out what if while selling out to these games.

It is up to us to take a stand. Here and now. Sony is coming out with a second racers that will be free. Why pay for a game that already makes you start off with cars that are so crapy that you would never race them. But you have to get a license with them to advance. Just wait until the new game hits between Jan/March.

[Mikefizzled]

£32.50 car in Forza: Angry mob wanting heads to roll.
£119.50 car in Gran Turismo: Article fails to get half the heat...

[jacksons98]

Game isn't actually out yet. That's the difference

[denero1]

Right -_- most of the post are blaming everything but sony

seen one post blaming gamers one blaming microsoft
I want a pair of those crazy shades so i can ignore the truth

[Dasteru]

The difference is that in Forza 5, Microtransactions are the ONLY method of obtaining certain cars, that one included. They also dumbed down the in-game rewards to make it very difficult to play the game without microtransactions.

In GT6 that is simply the cost to buy in-game currency to then use for an in-game car, and there are no reductions in in-game rewards over past GT games. It is purely an optional shortcut for those who do not want to grind for it.

[josephayal]

I don't see a problem with this , Well played Grand Turismo, Well played

[Master-H]

Pre order cancelled.

[Games_R_Us]

Its amazing how every one called Microsoft M$ and money grabbers and here Sony, now called P$4 are also money grabbers. Forget the systems guys, and remember the following:

"ALL COMPANIES ARE IN BUSINESS TO MAKE MONEY NO MATTER WHAT"

Nuff said.

Vote with your wallets, dont make the purchase and we'll all be better off.

This message is not a Troll Post

[jacksons98]

I'm going to wait until the game releases to pass judgement. In the past they have always been really generous with updates and free DLC in Gran Turismo

[level 360]

Will be getting this game tomorrow but won't be making any transactions whatsoever over the 'net.

Simply never have done or been tempted to ever since.

I say just enjoy the thousands of cars and many tracks in the game and do a bit of hard slog with the driving to get those precious rewards.

[IIXIXI]

You guys getting upset for Microtransactions sound like douches. People buy it anyway without complaining. Gtfo with your crying.

[Demster]

I remember yesterday, when ps4 fanboys were having a fun time in the comment section of an article about Forza microtransactions. "lol microsoft lol xbots losers hahah hav fun wit ur gaems wit microstransctons hohoho0h0h"

This is why fanboying won't quite work this gen. Both sides are (or should be) our enemies for doing sh!t like that. This is just the start. If this works out for them, we'll be paying $60 for half-made games and $20 for dlc that includes their endings lol

[feraldrgn]

Terrible, terrible pricings.

They're completely optional & nothing is locked behind them, but still, they should not be that much.

This is a complete game, where you can play to earn every single thing, but damn those pricings.
I hope absolutely nobody spends real money in game & earns it by playing it instead, send the message.
Unfortunately, there's bound to be someone with more money than sense.

[EffectO]

Progress altering MTs have no place in fully priced games.This is paying for cheats.

[skyalter]

Gamers are stupid.

[lesrima88]

Death to microtransactions!

[esemce]

Just pure greed that will encourage piracy, if gamers feel they are being scammed they will no longer have faith or show loyalty to the devs and cut support.

Just like how the cinema cost more evreytime I go and now we have to sit through adverts and infomercial style trailers to watch films thats full of product placement.

I will support devs that are not trying to mug me or should I say I will not be mugging myself.

Polyphony, Microsoft, Crytek, Capcom, EA f**k all of you.

[Dasteru]

I see they are still doing the car bloatware trick to make it look like there are far more cars in the game than there actually are.

S2000s
NSXs
RX-7s
Miata's
Lancer's
3000GTs
Skylines
350Zs

That is more than half the cars in the game right there. They say 1200... pff, i say more like 500. Still a GT fan but this shat seriously needs to stop. They even have 2 identical Veyrons in there, '09 & '13 but exact same power, exact same PP and 95% same look. Basically just a few very minor cosmetic differences.

[arbitor365]

there are some obvious differences between this and forza 5

the cars are unlockable within the game and dont REQUIRE MT. so unless the cars are insanely difficult to grind out in GT6, there shouldnt be a problem for normal players.

the game has literally 6 times as many cars as forza 5. so its not like they are taking stuff out and charging you extra for it (capcom style).

forza 5 has no right to charge extra for DLC when they put out a game with half the content as its predecessors. and dont even get me started on killer instinct.

[Kidmyst]

If they do Microtransactions and make it a longer and tougher grind to play without them than GT5, I'll pass on GT6. If I can still do a normal play like GT5 and earn as we did before, I'll pick it up. I don't mind microtransactions like some games have done before to give you all the cars if you want to pay for it, just don't crank the leveling up so those of us who chose not to pay, now have to take 3 times longer to earn stuff.