Sony hints that the PS4 lifecycle may be shorter than PS3

Techradar: Microsoft says that the Xbox One is a 10-year console, but what about the PlayStation 4? We asked Sony UK boss Fergal Gara whether the PS4 is in it for the long stretch.

"I think there's reasons to believe that the next cycle might be shorter in markets such as the UK," he said.

[gillri]

I think 5 years is perfect, lets give developers time to get used to the tech and get the most out of it...plus rising costs could force more risk taking developers out of business and we'd just be left with Ubisoft, Activision and EA ..........shudders

[decrypt]

It would be amazing if the next console is x86 too and they can maintain BC.

PS4 gets to live its 10 years, however just like the Android, Iphone ecosystem. The later console just plays the same games better.

5 years later the PS5 could be playing games in 4k meanwhile PS4 is plays the same game at lower settings.

[kneon]

This is exactly how I expect it to go, every 4-5 years there will be a new iteration that is fully backwards compatible since I can't see them moving off of x86.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Kneon 4 to 5 years? Is some kind of joke? No way I don't wanna hear about another PlayStation at least close to 10 years.

Sony's exclusive portfolio would be the weakest showcase yet on PS4 yet compared to the PS2 and 3.

Plus all the firmware updates to keep the console updated and keeping MS on its toes.

No way, long live PS4 for a while.

[sonic989]

the thing isnt even released in the whole world and we are already talking about PS5 .
that doesnt sound good at all the phones and the consoles are completely different consoles benefits greatly from new hardware look at it as you wish but the PS3 wont get the support it used to get before .
while with the Iphone and android its nothing really games and apps works perfectly on nearly every hardware i phone 4 can run today's games with no problem
PS: gaming is getting worse and worse by the day i hate the COD BF generation they ruined what gaming used to be before and now we will have shorter life cycles so the less games other than COD and the other REALISTIC STUFF DAH CRYSIS 3

[infamous-butcher]

I cant imagine what power cpus and gpus will have in 10 years, not to mention in spring next year when Nvidia unveil their Maxwell cards. Also with VR, 4K, 8K and proper 3D head sets around the corner, this gen of consoles is going to be left in the dust yet again.
When a generation of GPU's lasts only about 6-8 months and CPU's a year, and about 20% improvement over the highest end models, That's going to be a hell of a (bigger) gap.

[ssj27]

you have no idea of what you are talking about and those who agree are in the same stupid level of your iq.. it's pathetic.

The last thing PS5 needs are PS4 ported games at higher res/texture.

PS5 will not only mean better res"4k", fps. it will mean better AI bigger worlds better everything, better networks etc .

Your mentality is from a stupid PC elitist mentality who will upgreade their PC just to get more fps/texture from the same game. not a true value there.

5/6 years is perfect time for a new gen console that is 10 times more powerful!

[x5exotic]

Ps2 stayed for 7 damn years after it was considered "old" gen, and ps3 onward aren't going anywhere

[TheGreatAndPowerful]

5 years is too long, I think 4 is better.

[sonic989]

LOL @ 4 years
if you want 4 years update go PC its made for the SPECZZZZ ( which are generally meaningless )
play all games at 9999p and 500 fps but still it will be the same games except the usual my fire is better than yours or look at that far building you cant see it on consoles etc.
console are built to have long life spans unlike phones and tablets

[mikeslemonade]

Good :) I hated how last generation lasted this long. For the past 2 years I got almost gotuninterested in gaming. Looking forward for PS5 in 5 years.

[Sarcasm]

5 Years is perfect for me.

I'll buy a PS5 in 2018.

[The Killer]

i doubt ps4 will have shorter life cycle than ps3. Reasons? because ps4 most probably will have higher success rate than ps3 and will bring much more income to sony than ps3 did. why would they sacrifice something of a cash-cow after big losses from ps3?

plus, from what i see, it will be easier for developers to develop for ps4 than ps3 or even ps2, so i expect great number of titles and IPs from both the west and japan studios.

it is possible release ps5 after 5 years but if they did, they will give big support for ps4 for many more years to come.

i also expect the indie developers to make their impact this gen since the development costs are much lower compared to ps3.

overall, i think ps4 will be here and supported for another 10 years, something similar to ps2.

[DatNJDom81]

@mikeslemonade

I totally agree with you if you only owned a xbox. If you owned a PS3 however, you were still getting you mind blown even to this day.

[Statix]

I'll take a 6-year cycle. 5-year cycle would be even better.

That way, we get more frequent hardware upgrades, and the consoles won't be hobbling toward the finish line on arthritic ankles like they were at the 7th-8th year mark with the PS3 and 360. This past generation has been the longest generation of consoles I've seen, and I hope that doesn't become a trend.

[InTheZoneAC]

must suck to be an xbox fan. I didn't feel like the ps3 was struggling at all towards it's end. I just got ratchet and clank, gt6 comes out in 1 week.

GTA 5 and Splinter Cell just came out, what's to complain?

There are other games, but I can't think of one exclusive xbox has had in the last year or so to hold them over...

[0ut1awed]

^^ It must suck to be a fanboy in general. Really limits your capability to enjoy ALL games.

The PS3 and the 360 have been considered very outdated technology for a while now. I realized this since I had a PC but I'm supprised you haven't realized this yet with the X1 and PS4 out.

Maybe you don't own one so you have yet to see 60fps and 1080p+ in person? Go play something like BF4 on the PS3 then play it on the X1/PS4/PC and tell me that the PS3 wasn't struggling at the end.

It was a solid system but 7 years was way too long of a life cycle.

[sonic989]

nope longer generation = more creativity and less focus on those boring graphics showcase games
back in the day it didnt matter because most games were purely made for fun across the whole gen you would have like 20 or so favorites but now with the whole new realistic trends crushing our way i am not gonna say we but I would find less unique and fun games to play

[Ritsujun]

Xbosh360'd.

[Statix]

@InTheZoneAC: I think you're deluding yourself a bit. The technology in the PS3 and 360 are EXTREMELY archaic in the year 2013. This fact is indisputable. 512MB of total RAM, and 7800GTX-level GPU? These specs are absolutely LAUGHABLE. Sure, consoles are capable of heavy optimization and various coding tricks to maximize the graphics output you can possibly get from this incredibly creaky last-gen hardware, but there's only so much you can do given a set of hardware limits.

Yes, some standout games like The Last of Us looked fantastic, but those are more the exception, rather than the rule. The vast majority of multiplatform games on PS3/360 paled in comparison to even lower-end PC rigs. And as good as The Last of Us looked, even it showed signs of cracking under the weight of the antiquated PS3 parts--namely in the form of occasional framerate drops below 30fps in more visually intensive scenes.

What truly exemplifies how outdated the last-gen consoles really are is the Battlefield series. BF3 and BF4 truly showed all the wrinkles and weaknesses of these old machines, with cut-down maps reduced seriously in size, much weaker textures and effects, and limited to a mere 24-player support. Once you play BF4 on PS4, complete with full 64-player support, great effects, high-res textures, and a fluid framerate, you'll NEVER be able to go back to the PS3 version.

Bottom line is, more frequent hardware updates is a good thing, and ~5 years lifecycles is a good compromise. This would mean consoles won't develop the same gigantic gap from typical gaming PCs like we have with the PS3 and 360.

[Blaze929]

Xbox 360 came out in 2005...and is still kicking and gaining support 9 years later. Job well done Microsoft. I don't doubt em ft Xbox one either - which was literally built for the future with its online architecture. Can't wait to see how it evolves

[dantesparda]

That's 8 years not 9, do the math

[MizTv]

Support?
Really?

[Benchm4rk]

@gigoran

would you say the same thing about the ps3 seen as there has been 3 iterations of that console and its been out for 7 yrs.

[ABizzel1]

It's coming between 2018 - 2020. 2020 seems like a better time, just because their vision seems so clear 20-20 :D

Thank you, don't forget to tip.....Cash Only ;D

[Golden_Mud]

I actually expect a console to be announced in 2023

[Budz_McGr33n]

Yeah, 2020 seems about right. Although I'm sure Nintendo might launch a new console earlier than that because they have always been on a 5 or 6 year cycle, unlike MS/Sony.
@IHassounah: Really? You actually think 10 year console lifespan means that they won't release another console before that? You apparently know nothing of console life cycles.

[Moz]

Thing is, both system have clearly be designed so that the next gen consoles can use the same tech but faster allowing both backward compatibility and familiarity with the hardware. Which will allow for shorter cycles as all in development software work on the new platforms much like iPhones and Android phones today. You might even get a situation where a game will run on both PS4 & PS5 with the only difference being res or frame rate.

[L0L_WUT]

whoa! why not enjoy the ps4 while it's still hot and then enjoy the ps5 when the time is ready ;)

[sonic989]

Kids these days they treat everything like toys
when ever they get something they dont thank god for what they have no they start complaining that they are bored to death .
BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU HAVE
longer gens means less wasted money for everyone including devs and consumers with more stable systems .
COD selfish SPOILED BRATS some people play games other than call of duty

[ovnipc]

7 or 8 max. 5 to short most games take to 3 years to develop. We need more than one or two killzones and the last of us.

[sonic989]

exactly

[Salooh]

3 years will become 2 years since ps4 is alot more easier to develop for then ps2 and 3.

I expected this and people disagreed with me . Developers were asking for the ps4 for a long time . Ps3 was pain in the ass wnd its outdated for a long time. 5 years is perfect to keep up with the tech
..

[MizTv]

I would be very happy with 7
Anything else Just seems to soon

[Budz_McGr33n]

No, in 5 years 4K TV's will be more abundant and the PC will be taking advantage of them with lots of Ultra HD games. Considering how outdated the PS4/XB1 already are, I'd say 5 years for this console generation seems the better option. I mean who the hell wants to play 720p/1080p games on their 4K TV?

[memots]

F*ck no

I was already not happy that the ps3 time had come and still go back to it. I love my Ps4 but if the stuff from ps4 to ps5 don't work together i am done.

[Salooh]

I bet you just bought the ps3 recently . People who bought the ps3 in launch were tired of the ps3 for 2 years..

Thats why ps4 released in the same year it announced..

[memots]

at 14Feb-R

Nope i had a 60gig BC .
got it a couple months after release. played Warhawk to death on it. I still have it along a 20gig model ( the one without wireless ) I still have a very big ps2 collection.

I will admit i didnt use it that much for ps2 stuff but this is different. I have so much digital download. HD editions Ps1/mini ect .. I want those on my Ps4 , I love the controller , I love how fast everything is and using all the content i paid for on this too me anyway sounds only fair.

[irepbtown]

Sony will continue to support the PS3 for the next few years. Last year I thought 2013 was too soon, but man, it is perfect.

[Sayai jin]

Cha-ching!

[frostypants]

We need to define "cycle" here. This guy is just talking about the likely time to a new console. This isn't what Sony/MS usually mean by system lifecycle. The PS3 has a 10-year lifecycle, but that just means they'll still be making games for it, and selling some variant of the system, 10 years after its release. That doesn't mean a new system won't come out. So the PS4 coming out doesn't mean the end of the PS3's lifecycle (which should continue for another 3 years or so), and the PS5 won't mean the end of the PS4.

[JsonHenry]

I am betting they will go with a shorter lifecycle. People already buy a new $400-$600 iPhone every year or two.

It isn't too much of a stretch to think that by switching to x86 and having full BC in newer consoles that they will try for the same quick money. Especially since they can just make games scale like on a PC where a low end PC (PS4) runs the same game at lower settings but the same game-disc will run on higher settings on a higher end PC (PS5).

I seriously see this happening.

[Livecustoms]

Wow really ? YES !, i was one of the people worried that this would be the last ever generation of game consoles. Due to how popular 'All in one' devices are becoming. And NO Xbox One is NOT all in one lol

[Fil101]

Could this also be because of the xbone being a weaker console that Microsoft might enter next gen even quicker forcing sony to follow suit.

[Lovable]

Good assumption.

[come_bom]

I have to agree. If the X1 flops, or if it's not as successful as Microsoft hopes, they will be left with two options: quit the console business or make a early launch of their next console, that way forcing Sony to follow with their next console.

As for my predictions, i don't think the X1 will flop, but it won't be as successful as the PS4.

[SonyWarrior]

Microsoft CEO already said they have been thinking of selling off the xbox brand

[Bzone24]

@Sonywarrior

Can you point me to where the Microsoft CEO says they have been thinking of selling off the Xbox brand? Can't seem to find it.

[Oner]

Here are 4 articles I have come across that are along those lines that may answer your question Bzone24 ~

Pre Launch of Xbox One (January 2013) ~
http://hothardware.com/News...

2 Billion Dollar Investor wants to fire Ballmer & Sell XB Division (Aug. 2013) ~
http://playeressence.com/2-...

Major change in MS could mean Xbox One is the last one (Aug. 2013) ~
http://gamer.blorge.com/201...

Post Launch of Xbox One (November 2013)~
http://n4g.com/news/1401541...

Hope that is the helpful information you require.

[tiremfej]

@oner

So all those articles are from reputable sources? I can't find Bloomberg, NYT, Forbes, Financial Times in those four you listed.

Surprising.

[Bzone24]

@Oner

Sorry, but none of the links you provided has Microsoft's CEO saying they are thinking about selling off the Xbox brand.

[Oner]

@ tiremfej & Bzone24 ~ Then you weren't looking hard enough (to be expected) as 2 of the articles actually link to PROMINENT financial sites as well has pertinent info from other business related sites.

The 1st link ~ http://hothardware.com/News... states specifically in THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE "Forbes contributor Adam Hartung" is that reputable? I think so.

While the 2nd link terminates at the Puget Sound Business Journal. But admittedly that may not be enough...I mean the CONTENT itself is what is most surprising in that one alone. But because it doesn't come from "Bloomberg, NYT, Forbes, Financial Times" it doesn't mean anything right?

Now the 3rd link came from ~

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

Which links to and is based off this article ~

http://www.businessinsider....

Which was authored by Bill Rigby, FROM REUTERS (is that good enough yet?).

Now that should be enough but I will continue...The 4th link came from right here on N4G ~

http://n4g.com/news/1401541...

Which links to and is also based off of this article ~

http://blogs.barrons.com/te...

And what site is that? Barron's ~ a Dow Jones & Company leading financial site.

Surprising huh? Well not to me, but whatever...YOU will see what YOU want to see. Not what is the truth/news of which I provided.

But even with that said, I have to take the time to clearly point out that reading comprehension is quite key here and something the two of you should try to improve upon.

See I never exactly said I agree with or was supporting what "SonyWarrior" said about the "Microsoft CEO selling Xbox"...if you read slowly & carefully understand (that's called comprehension) I specifically said at the start of my first sentence "that are along those lines..."

"Along those lines" means it is similar to and/or supportive in nature but not EXACTLY as to what SW said (as I honestly believe he is mistaken and in a roundabout way agree with the two of you) so I provided links to what would clarify that misunderstanding or support the overall point he was trying to make.

But that doesn't matter to you 2, as I said ~ you will see what you WANT to see. So go ahead and lets see what excuses you try to come up with now.

/rollseyes

[tiremfej]

@oner

I didn't even take the time to click on the links or read them. That is how much I actually care. I am glad you spent time typing your rebuttle.

[Bzone24]

Your comment also said "that may answer your question Bzone24". It didn't. He said Microsoft CEO. That is what I called him on. I don't care what all your links say if they don't have the Microsoft CEO saying that they have been thinking of selling off the Xbox brand. He straight up lied in his comment. But you give me links of other people saying they should, or may. Others have also said the same about the Playstation brand. Does that mean the Sony CEO said it?

[Oner]

Exactly as I thought.

@ Tire,fej ~ You don't care now huh? Yet you did care enough to say originally if they were reputable...then when I prove they are, you then proceed to not care. Thats so very mature of you.

@Bzone24 ~ As I said you see what you WANT to see. I explained that I didn't agree with SW's comment and actually clarified it (as to what he probably meant) along with proving the sites ARE reputable...either way, the CONTENT is what's important yet that somehow doesn't matter huh?

But that was to be expected. As usual.

[Bzone24]

lol. Unless you have the account SonyWarrior, you don't need to be speaking for what he probably meant. He said Microsoft CEO. That is what I was responding to. I didn't respond to him saying journalists, financial advisers, bankers, bakers, librarians, etc. said it. You bringing in anything that isn't a quote from the Microsoft CEO then it doesn't matter to me in regards to this discussion.

In regard to me seeing what I want to see. His post said "Microsoft CEO already said they have been thinking of selling off the xbox brand". You are the one only seeing what you want to see. I see what he typed.

[tiremfej]

@oner

Okay I'll bite. It is idiotic for anyone to think that MS would sell the Xbox brand after investing billions into R&D into X1, let alone marketing, development, logistics, resources...etc...etc...but hey as a Sony fan you can hope.

Realistically, it isn't going to happen. However, here on sony4g.com where reality is so skewed this deal is already set in stone. Crawl out from under your rock, grab a sense of realism and think to yourself if this is even plausible. It isn't.

I just can't believe how much anti Xbox bullshit is on here. It is disgusting.

[Prime157]

xbone was made for the 10 year span: as a media hub.

Not for games.

With steam machines on the horizon, MS positioned the XBone very interestingly in my opinion. That's why I'm angry at them at the same time as it didn't really help me as a gamer - it feels evident that the multimedia was more important to them than the core gamers that made the 360 what it is.

What I'm really curious about (after reading this article) is how Sony plans to pursue post-PS4 with the PS brand.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Fil Not a good assumption

[IanVanCheese]

The Xbox One will not flop, but I can see Microsoft having to go next-gen within 5-6 years. Sony could outlast them by a year or two but it wouldn't make sense for them to do so.

6 Years before the next gen is my assumption.

[pyramidshead]

I want the PS5 to hover just a lil tiny bit off the ground because, sci-fi future tech.

[SkullBlade169]

Epic cooling system.

[Rhezin]

Not looking forward to shelling out another $400 in five years. Certainly hope it's not true. What happened to the ten year lifespan?

[Tiechie]

Start saving now, and in five years you could buy 10.

[bjmartynhak]

If they keep the x86 architecture, expect backward compatibility and a longer leg in cross-gen titles.

[Starbucks_Fan]

$400 is not that bad...

[Prime157]

I think it's worth updating my GFX card on my pc every year or two. I'm not talking about 500$ ones, but just 100-200$ ones works.

4k displays are around the corner for the norm. Technology doubles every year and doesn't wait around for those who wish to stay complacently stagnant in their archaic ways.

[Back-to-Back]

$400 is nothing. 10 year lifespan just indicates how long the product will be made.

[Goku781]

Now I really believe it.

[cyhm3112]

I can see MS take this as an opportunity to advertise for xbone. Xbone last for ten years while PS4 only lasts half as long. After the power of the cloud, finally MS has something to brag about. /s

[SpinalRemains138]

Its all about profit and nothing more.

This Gen will be like all the rest. 6 years and if the market is strong then they push it another year or so.....the end.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Finally some sense.

This people don't realise how much money those companies would need to make in 4 years to release another gen that early. And if they were doing this kind of money, they would more likely than not keep the gen going, not move past it.

Learn it kids, console releases have almost nothing to do with peaking performance or how it compares to PC tech, it's all about maximum sales. If they forecast sales would peak next year, R&D would start working on PS5 tomorrow and yet only probably be able to release it by 2015 or 2016 (because a next gen console don't grow overnight), which would be a total crap anyway because they had not yet earned enough money to justify R&D costs to shareholders, so it would be a really cheap project...

5~6 years has always been the sweet spot and it will likely be that again, the only reason this last/current generation lasted more for both Sony and MS was because of economic crisis around the globe prevented them from peaking earlier, while Wii U came out earlier because it simply wasn't selling that great no more and they managed to sell much better than usual on the first 3 years. It had little to nothing to do with specs or whatever kind of TV is available on the market.

EDIT: Removed 6~7, looked back a little and it's more likely 5~6 years for the sweetspot.

[Sloth-Eater]

PLAY5TATION copyright pending.

[EXVirtual]

I think 5-6 years is perfect. It gives time for 4K to be a standard.
The PS4 will still have loads of support by that time (look at the PS3), but the PS5 could run the same games at 4K and even better.
I think they should also continue the X86 architecture, to make backwards compatibility that much easier.

[deafdani]

It wouldn't surprise me if this console generation as a whole (not only the PS4) was shorter than the previous one. The PS3 and Xbox 360 were both pretty absurd jumps in technology compared to their predecessors; so massive, in fact, that both Sony and Microsoft sold these consoles initially sustaining very heavy losses per console sold (especially the PS3, what with the then-new blu ray technology and all that).

This, coupled with the fact that the game developers in general took many years to truly untap the potential of both of these machines, meant that they both had a much, much longer life than previous consoles.

The Wii, on the other hand, ran out of steam much more quickly, and that's why Nintendo was a full year first into the market with the Wii U. Had Nintendo not released the Wii U, maybe Sony and Microsoft would not have released the PS4 and Xbox One this year (of course, this last part is only pure conjecture from my part).

This new generation of consoles, on the other hand? The gap in power between PS4 / One in relation to PS3 / 360 isn't anywhere near as big as it was between PS3 / 360 and PS2 / Xbox. Not even close. Yes, there's a improvement in hardware, but not big enough to warrant a particularly long life; basically, these new consoles aren't as future-proofed as their predecessors were.

The Wii U? Even less so.

This is why I agree with this article, and I think this console generation will probably last around 5 or 6 years at most, not the 7-8 years that the last consoles endured. And I also think that Nintendo, once again, will be the first out of the gates with a new console, seeing how they released the Wii U first with a full year in advance, and how the Wii U is less powerful than the other 2 next (now current) gen consoles.

And I'm fine with that. Before the PS3 - 360 era, console generations tended to last 4 years, 5 at most. This last console generation was ridiculously long.

[isyourhouseonfire]

Life is ticking away. We get older then we die. The faster they can bring consoles to the market the better. 5 years? Fine, I'll take it.

[feraldrgn]

It's not the popular opinion, but I'd rather it lasted as long as this gen again.
I'm not in a hurry.

[tigertron]

Six years is good for me. I bet Sony will start work on the PS5 next year. They might even be working on it already.

[GraveLord]

PS5 in ~6 years please.

Mobile tech is advancing so fast. It's nearly impossible for consoles to last 10 years with their ancient tech. 4K will be mainstream in a few years so I suppose that will be the biggest selling point for PS5.

[JohnnyTower]

I'm in no hurry for 4K games. The BluRay games already clock in around 50gbs. A 4K game would be considerably bigger.

[Robinkb]

So when XBOX 2 comes out in 2023, Sony will have Playstation 6. :)

[NeoTribe]

I'm down with this. 10year+ support and new hardware every 5.

[mochachino]

I'm happy with a 4-5 year new console cycle as long as BC is their.

[Golden30]

I hope Sony get rid of that 10 year life cycle and shift it to 5 years. I don't mind spending 400$ once in a 5 years for a new gaming system if it only makes my gaming experience better... We have that already with TV's and Cellphones etc. Technology goes fast these days and Sony need to step up their game

[Nanux]

LOL after 5-6 year i think 8k graphics minimum on PS5. PS4 Can play 4k games teoreticly.

[PurpHerbison]

Turd.

[Ohai]

Make ps5s cpu, gpu, and ram upgradable with parts sony chooses. I know this is redundant beings it would be a PC by then, but I'd rather that than a regular PC with its large os and programs I don't need. I know this won't be a popular opinion but I'd like it.

[Hitman0769]

That's dumb, just play PC if you want that.

[Ohai]

The games I like aren't on PC.

[Hitman0769]

Thank god! I want new consoles in 5 years please. That being said, really loving the PS4 experience so far. :)

[Tzuno]

as with pc's in the end we need to upgrade to keep the pace with the technology if we want progress. 5 years seems fair.

[Soldierone]

They'd shoot themselves in the foot.

1 Console gamers don't want to buy new stuff all the time, why not just buy a PC at that point?

2 Look what happens when you tell developers "work with it" instead of giving in and giving them new hardware all the time. Amazing stuff. Meanwhile on the phone market, you get these quad core super phones that can't even play the latest flash title due to optimization issues.

[Kalebninja]

5 years would be the announcement and 6 years should be the release

[Pillsbury1]

It may be 5 years until ps5 comes out but they will continue to support ps4 for 10 years. Sony are the the only ones with the track record to support consoles for a very long time.

[level 360]

They're simply just speculation.

So don't take the article too seriously.

[Jovanian]

Lol a 400 dollar console lasts 5 years?

that is kinda pathetic. When you buy a console you expect it to last a little less than a decade, not 5 years

[mochachino]

Since when?

Only last gen was like that and people started losing their interest in gaming. some went to PC but it cost the industry being this protracted.

New consoles every 5 years is perfect with b/c,

Or new consoles every 3-4 years with f/c

[Gamerita]

naughty dog can easily make the PS4 lasts 10 years with the super awesome games they make.

[aLiEnViSiToR]

With the way technology has been progressing last 15~20 years its no surprise... just look at PC every year now it goes 3+ years forward >>>

[Belking]

Sony knows their console won't last 10 years because they didn't put much into it. Its not as balanced well developed as the xb1 architecture.

[newflesh]

I don't care for graphics so much, I want more innovative gameplay and interesting great games. So I was totally happy that last gen lasted for so long and hope the same stays true this generation. Just give me the games! Not freaking graphics updates. Well them too :)

[Hekticboss44]

A year or two shorter then last gen is the sweet spot !! It's been to long some of these folks were in nappies when the ps3 came out lol

[Hekticboss44]

Piss off belking I mean mrcteam oops I mean Mrxmedia oh no I meant insider!! U no what site you belong at !! Go see a doctor !! ;))

[CaulkSlap]

I'm guessing PS5 will use the same AMD APU architecture. So it'll be fully backwards compatible to PS4 and support 4k resolution. Most games will probably be PS4/PS5 compatible. It'll be more like a PC system upgrade than a new console I bet.

[feraldrgn]

Personally, I would like another long gen.

Is it cheaper to make consoles every 5-6 years or more expensive?

[francisjairam16]

Well the Xbox 360 has been out since 2005 (7 years from now) and the PS3 in 2006 (6 years from now). Well I know that the Xbox One will last 10 years but as for the PS4 Sony its uncertain.

[RIP_Cell]

with these weak specs and can't even play BF4 at more than 900p, yes this console cycle better be short

[Drasill]

As someone who bought both consoles at launch 5 years sounds like the perfect lifecycle before new consoles come out. The hardware is already somewhat outdated.

[EL Lanf]

I think with consoles becoming more convergent with PCs, the life cylce will be shorter. However I think there will be increasing focus on the console firmware over hardware. I agree with Jim Sterling that consoles are increasingly finding it difficult to justify their existence by being cut-down PCs and need to offer a unique experience like the Wii U.

The XB1 is trying to do that with Kinect and it will be interesting to see how that turns out. However 'the by gamers for gamers' PS4 doesn't offer much inherently exclusive to the platform, I can see it having difficulties in the future competing against the Steambox ; not immediately, but within 5-7 years or so.

I find it ludicrous how the console debate is focused on graphics and not features; it's features and experiences that justify a console's existence, not so much graphics.

[Flames76]

Im guessing they dont wont to lose another 5 billion like on the PS3.

[Last_Boss]

I'm still trying to figure out, when a system supposedly outdated when it comes out, why are the better games on console MOST of the time?

Please, someone help me, for I have gamed on everything for 31 years.

[Jamaicangmr]

I expect this based on the ease of use of the hardware. We are going to get games faster and noticeable leaves that normally takes 2 years will only take one or less now.

So 5 years will be about good for the PS5. That doesn't mean however that Sony won't continue to support the PS4 just like they have always done.

[Zizi]

PlayStation will never die as long as it has great exclusives like PS3 has done in the past few years. However, if the lifecycle is too short, then we can expect AAA titles to be released at least three a year.

[Retroman]

why do xbox fans still using xbox360 after 7 years you guys should be saying 360 as we sony fans call it ps1,ps2,ps3,ps4
you dont read anywhere we fans calling it playstation whatever # 360 or X1 is cool we get it.

[MadMen]

Thank God it will be shorter.

[getmad]

Lmao if the news would be about the xbox one having a five year cycle, people would laugh, but now that it's the ps4, people are like "omg thats perfect!! I have a hardon for sony!!!"

[zRude]

It is funny. When console fanboys encounters conversation that praises PCs superiority on all aspects. ( which is a fact ) They always cry about the * Ooooh Graohics isnt everythnig hurr durr ! Enjoy your non exclusive games on 8k graphics lololo * ( that pretty much sums it up how they actually sound like ) Yeah graphics isn't everything.
But i honestly could not play the latest gears of war on console. It almost made me vomit. The ultra low FPS. Ultra narrow FOV and that horrible saw blade edges.

But when the graphics and power comes to be compared between consoles... Oooooh boy. The smallest graphical differences is the new reason to live or die.
Sure xbox has slightly inferior graphics AT THE MOMENT !
But i thought you fanboys don't care about graphics ?

Since you obviously do. And when you do, we can count in PCs superior graphics that consoles will NEVER beat.

If you don't want to whine about graphics not being important. Don't compare em between consoles either.

[Ocsta]

The Ps3 was soundly beaten (specs wise) by the 8800 GTX, a graphics card from 2007. Here we are, 7 years later, and the PS3 is producing graphical masterpieces like GOW and TLOU while the 8800 GTX has LONG since been relegated to the dusty pages of history, along with all the cards that came after it. Consoles aren't PC's, stop comparing them.

[mysteryraz11]

5 or 6 years is good enough and pc gaming is irrelevant lol pc fanboys come and brag about there specs on a console thread but the top played pc games are games like league of legends

[DarkBlood]

not that im really against the idea, but wouldnt that be expensive for sony?

[zero_gamer]

If the system sells like hotcakes for years and third parties get what they want done on PS4 without complaints about the limitations there is no need to think about PS5 this early. This is like only 2 weeks after the American launch of PS4.

[Azzanation]

I would feel gutted if I blew $500 on a new console only to figure out that there's another one coming in 5 years. I hope for the fans of PS that this isn't true and it will last a good 8+ years.

[Revvin]

The thing is with Sony is that they still support their past consoles where as Microsoft just seem to cut support much sooner, that's what to felt moving from XBOX to 360 and yet when I finally got a PS3 Sony were still actively promoting the PS2.

[Mister_Dawg]

Those that burn brightly, die young.

[ibrake4naps]

Awesome! I'd buy a ps5 next year if they let me!

[SLUG]

the ps4 is like a burning flame going out of gaming thats why the xbox one will win this time thats FUNNY LOL

[Gamer666]

New console cycles are driven by technology change in graphical processing, CPU processing, and memory.

There has to be enough changes in 1 or all of these to justify a new console cycle.

[kingPoS]

I believe the populous has become quite used to the long running generation of the PS360Wii. It's been eight years already! When ten year cycle is mentioned, I'd like to think that meant support for support for ten years; just as the same the PS2 received.

Development; that's a different matter all together from support. Take the PSP for instance; it's not being developed for, but it's still currently being supported.

Gateway MT6706 2008