ATLUS Moves Away From Vita

Yep, Persona: Dancing All Night is the next big title for the Vita. You'd think after the success of Persona 4: Golden, it wouldn't have come to this. But it seems Sega is pulling more string than anyone originally thought. Thank god Persona 5 is coming to PS3.

[Neckbear]

Atlus always had more prescence on 3DS than Vita. Etrian Odyssey IV and SMTIV were both big titles for them. The Vita had...what? An enhanced port?

[jc48573]

this is going to be the first Persona game on a 3DS, which it's pretty interesting why they made that choice. So far, Persona has appeared mainly on Sony platforms with the exception of Persona 4 Arena, which is multiplatform.

[admiralvic]

It probably has to do with the popularity of the system and the popularity of the series. Persona went from a small, semi popular spin off of SMT, to a series that rivals / surpasses the series it spun off of.

You look at Persona and you see animes, movies, a fighting game spin off, so it's only natural they would give the better selling system better games. There is also Atlus getting close to Nintendo again, since we had SMT 5 on the 3DS, plus FE X SMT coming up for the Wii U.

[RedHawk02]

I really hope a better Persona game comes to Vita. I want something like Persona 5 or even Persona Q. A remake of Persona 3 Portable in Vita graphics would be awesome also.

[nidhogg]

You on drugs mate? It wasn't just an enhanced port, it was a greatly re-modified version with lots of effort put into it. However, Can't think of any other exclusive game Atlus gave to the handheld? hint: Dragon's Crown. So given that the 3DS has all these big titles you can think of -- it IS selling well and is a good rpg system to date -- the Vita will have its time too maybe not now but I have a feeling it will have the edge in the rpg business in the future -- especially from Atlus.

[Blastoise]

Persona 4 Golden sold more than Etrian Odyssey and Shin Megami Tensei IV, with a much much smaller userbase.

I'm sure we'll see more games from them on the Vita

[HammadTheBeast]

Let's not forget Persona 3 Portable on PSP.

[wiiuniverse]

@blastoise
im not downplaying that too much but you have to keep in mind this is persona were talking about, and p4g came out when there want much else to play on vita. SMT 4 has sold well compared to the non persona entries of the franchise, and it came out when there were 3ds games coming out every month.
still, im sure a persona q would sell just as well on vita despite the low userbase.

[Misaka_x_Touma]

@Blastoise
source
dont use vgchartz because it not accurate.

[vergilxx3]

It does not matter how we call it it's still a port.
And in my opinion vita's time will be in 2014 with soo many games comming like Final Fantasy X , Borderlands 2 and Freedom Wars

[jamespetergriff]

Hello everyone, I am the writer for this article. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask!

[Th4Freak]

So you're fishing huh?

[tiffac008]

Sir with all due respect, if you are familiar with the franchise or have done your research. You should know all main Persona titles goes to a console first before getting an enhanced port version on a handheld.

Now, if down the line we do not see a Persona 5 Platinum on the Vita or it gets released on the 3DS or iOS instead. Then your claim can be justified but for now it remains invalid.

Besides I think you have no idea how popular rhythm games are in Japan and Asia and a good portion of them are on the Vita.

[jamespetergriff]

If you read the article, it at no point mentions that Persona 5 should be on Vita at the same time. My point is that it seems Vita owners got the short end of the stick from Atlus as the 3DS gets its own full-blown RPG. Especially when P4G gave people a reason to own the handheld console. This is a step away from the Vita, in my opinion. Vita deserves a more prominent title.

[theshonen8899]

Full-blown RPG? From what I can tell, PersonaQ is just a small, cute dungeon crawler. Similar to...oh I dunno Etrian Odessey? ATLUS has chosen to release the spinoff titles on the consoles that make sense to them. Project Diva f is a game so popular that is sold Vita consoles, so they're releasing a game similar to it on the Vita. Hell, the game probably even uses the same engine from Project Diva considering Sega owns ATLUS now.

There is no picking favorites going on here. The idea that Vita is getting the short end of the stick is purely your own opinion. ATLUS and more importantly SEGA is not moving away from the Vita. I think the console choices ATLUS went with made logical sense.

[tiffac008]

@jamespetergriff

But the Persona 3DS game is a Sega move not an Atlus one. Its being made by the Etrian Odyssey team.

Same with the dancing game which is being made by the Project Diva team.

I do understand what you are saying about the Vita deserving more but the situation you are trying to imply about Atlus moving away from the Vita is just not the case.

Edit: This is more like Sega trying to milk a popular franchise by creating additional spin-offs (one being a different genre altogether)

Like I said if Persona 5 Platinum does not materialize on the Vita or appears elsewhere. Then you will be right on the money.

[Protagonist]

@jamespetergriff

So your argument for "ATLUS Moves Away From Vita"
is because the PS Vita actually gets a game from Atlus???

Persona 4 Golden, Dragon's Crown, Conception II: Children of the Seven Stars and now Persona 4: Dancing All Night begs to differ.

If Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth was announced for the PS Vita, your would probably have argumented the exact same thing.

Why did you even write this so-called article???
did you check with Sega/Atlus??? did they confirm this???

Yeah I did not think so!

[CGMagazine]

Point taken, but I am referring to ATLUS as a developer, not a publisher. I think Persona Q is the sort of spinoff that people want, an RPG with characters you love and a new storyline. Granted Persona 4: Dancing All Night will probably sell a lot of units, but it isn't the flagship title Vita needed and I think Vita owners expected. Atlus was being heralded as a vita savior when p4: golden was released. If you disagree, that is your opinion. But this is mine, and I stand by it. I see releasing some Dancing Game on Vita instead of an rpg that is closer to the series roots is ATLUS saying they show less interest in the Vita as a developer. I wrote this article to give a different viewpoint of the games reveal, and my reactions to it.

[Hicken]

The problem with your article is that the premise isn't supported by fact.

ATLUS hasn't canceled any Vita games, have they? On the contrary, they just announced one. Like the 3DS game, it's a spinoff title, not an original Persona, OR a remake. That said, the core Persona titles have all been on PlayStation home consoles and later ported to handhelds. Hell, this is the first time a Persona game has been on DS at all.

And, as others have noted, rhythm games are VERY popular in Japan, most notably the Hatsune Miku series; the Vita's Persona title is OBVIOUSLY meant to cash in on that.

Now, if there were some shortage of ATLUS titles on Vita, titles already in production were being canceled, or the number of 3DS titles was growing considerably in comparison, the premise might have stood. But none of that is true.

And given the success of P4G(which, if I remember correctly, did even better than the original on PS2- I bought both, by the way- and also did better than the last few ATLUS titles on 3DS combined), it would be silly of them to abandon the system.

Of course, since there's nothing to support that, there's nothing to worry about.

[dcj0524]

So PERSONA 5 Portable 2016. That's cool. I geuss.

[Hicken]

What? The hell are you even talking about? We don't know what else ATLUS is gonna put on Vita. P5 will probably get a port after a while, but that doesn't mean it's the only thing they'll put out.

... are you aware of how many franchises ATLUS has their hands in?

[vergilxx3]

So in your opinion it doesn't matter what kind of game we get as long as we get one ?
I personaly would pick that P3-P4 remix thing over that dance all night

[teflontactics]

Persona has always made it to the PSVita/PSP as a remake/enhanced port and not an original title.

Persona 5 not hitting the Vita as such is really no surprise - though I would be surprised if we didn't see an enhanced port of Persona 5 hitting the Vita later on.

It's their style of releases, though I don't really agree with it.

[thehobbyist]

Besides that's a teaser not a big trailer with the paragraph of copyright information and all that fun stuff. They could very well be doing a multiple Sony platform launch and just haven't said it yet. Many games have come and gone with only a few platforms at their announcement.

[Ritsujun]

Persona 5: The Crimson - 2016 Winter for PSVITA
Persona 5: HYPER Crimson - 2018 Winter for PS4

[porkChop]

I'm really hoping they do a P5G version for the Vita. Doesn't really need new content though, I just want the game itself. At least if they do a PS4 version I could RP it.

[e-p-ayeaH]

All the persona games need to return in HD alongside 5.

I still havent played a Persona game i only have a PS3 at the moment.

[SoulSercher620]

You can buy P3FES as a PS2 classic for only $10. Perfect starting point.

[Inception]

Just like SoulSercher said, you can buy PS1 & PS2 classic of Persona 1, 2, and 3: FES. I suggest buy P3 FES because right now Atlus gave some discount for the game.

[Inception]

Vita already got P4G. And even rhytym games isn't my cup of tea, but it has big fanbase in asia, especially in japan. Games like Project Diva, DJ Max Technica, or Idolmaster, always sold in high number in asia.

It's a smart move by SEGA / Atlus to broaden the audience of Persona for the anticipation of Persona 5. Because, if this games sold a lot (i'm sure it will because Persona 4 music really good), it will move Vita units + bring more potential buyers for Persona series :)

[Dinoegg_96]

Hopefully we'll get a P5 port for the Vita.

[Inception]

Well, Atlus port all Persona main title to handheld, so that's a big chance they will do it too.

[Dinoegg_96]

Yep, and we've seen some full PS3 games ported to Vita, so maybe we can get (if we get the port xD) the complete experience, not like P3P (which was great).

[jc48573]

I think the title is a little misleading as the announcements they made today just proves they support all consoles just that each game is more specific to a particular console/handheld.

[DEATHxTHExKIDx]

Regardless I'm excited it just means I can play more Persona games on multiple systmes.

[GirlOnFire]

It had to be Chibi....on 3ds. I don't like it in particular but I'll buy it for sure.

[matrixman92]

I dont really understand why 5 isnt on vita as well. They have had 2 years(3 when it releases) to work on a vita port of it. It would have been nice. It could have even been cross buy/play...i wont really want to go back to ps3 at the end of 2014(maybe 2015 for western release) to play it.

[Inception]

The developement of P5 already too far to include Vita version.

And Atlus doesn't have tons of worker to do a lot of big project in the same time. In two-three years, besides developing P5, they've also developing & testing the HD engine for Catherine and making P4: Golden. Not to mention another team also making SMT IV, Devil Survivor, SMT x Fire Emblem, and helping Vanillaware on Dragon's Crown.

If they spread the team too thin by making P5 for Vita, than i'm sure yesterday we will not see the announcement for P5.

Anyway, if you really want P5 on Vita than be patient until the game released.

[GraveLord]

3rd party games sell much better on Vita. They have to be made first though.

On the 3DS 3rd parties have to compete with Pokemon/Mario/Zelda...and now even Monster Hunter(which itself had its legs cut short by Pokemon)

[ShiranaiJittai]

Sadly this makes more sense then you would think at first.

I have a Playstation Vita, and I enjoy playing it immensely.

However there is a big problem that has been apparent yet carefully hidden away from the start with the system.

I wouldn't dare mention the obvious lack of games (which is about to improve substantially thanks to mandatory Vita support for PS4 games.

No I speak of something much worse carefully hidden away.

The max file size on the cartridges is a joke.

This is why you won't see Persona 5 on Vita, and probably not on 3DS either. Generally with these portables last generation console games are ported to current generation handhelds. This has never been more true than with the vita.

In many ways the Vita shares quite a few amazing similarities to the PS3 from a hardware perspective, however the max file size of a title isn't one of them.

There is a reason Uncharted Golden Abyss was so short that was all they could fit.

There is a reason the HD port of Final Fantasy X and X-2 release as two seperate titles on Vita.

I don't know that there is a way to have 2 "cartridges" for an rpg like you can with most RPG's on previous, and current systems. I won't pretend to understand the inner workings of the PS Vita Game Card to claim definitively one way or another that it is or isn't. I would however speculate that it isn't because game developers have already asked Sony plenty of times to allow larger file sizes on the game card and even though Vita has struggled so much, and doing so would really help the system out it still hasn't happened.

So Persona 5 on Vita probably isn't possible unfortunately I will be more than happy to be wrong about this so I can have it on PS3 and Vita, but only time will tell. 3DS isn't getting it either.

[Whxian]

i think i'v heard somewhere that sony could raise the limit to 8gb in the future as it becomes needed, and also the fact that they can have ffx and/or borderlands 2 on the vita with supposed current limitations is probably a sign that size currently isnt the problem, this is not like the psp where size hurt, by making games skip cinematics or worse, like with persona 3 portable. do remember that vita has lower res and as such a big game for ps3 wouldnt be as big for the vita
so if p5 will have a size like catherine, 10gb, then it should probably be doable for the vita. taking a random game as an example, STREET FIGHTER X TEKKEN for the ps3 is almost 13gb, while the vita version is 2gb

[ShiranaiJittai]

You bring up a good point and I did take that into consideration thinking of the releases of Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 and 2. It doesn't affect all games, and with some it is more noticable than others but it does affect them. Maybe it is better now but I know that Sony Bend did run into serious space limitations with Golden Abyss. I think the graphics have to take a hit when they wouldn't actually have to is primarily what it comes down to, but with longer games like Japanese RPG's heavy with cinematics it is a different story. Fighting Games work fine it is stuff like Final Fantasy where you would run into problems. They have to compress the audio and video quality past what they actually want to because of the size limitation the Vita can run it fine that Game Card size limits capability. I wish they would go ahead and increase the Card Size but they haven't yet.

[vergilxx3]

Vita is getting a dance game and the next thing you see will be a port of persona 5 for 3ds