BioWare Execs Split on Whether to Classify Wii as a Toy

BioWare's Greg Zeschuk and Ray Muzyka speak about how the Wii should be seen, whether as a toy or something much deeper.

[sunnygrg]

Square Enix was the other one.

[mirroredderorrim]

Is that why Square Enix is making games for the Wii? Bioware has not been around long enough for them to talk down on Nintendos machine. Especially when they're making peanuts compared to the Money Printing Wii.

[SL1M DADDY]

Not a toy. I can enlighten you here. If it is considered a toy due to its apeal to the casual market then why do we see so few adults with the latest Barbie or Hot Wheels? If it is a toy then since the PS2 apeals to the casual market as well it should be safe to say that the PS2 is a toy too. I would dare say it is a negative thing to say it's a toy and that negativity spills over onto the entire video game market. It's a console, no matter how you slice it.

[Kyrue]

I've had high hopes for the Wii, but honestly I don't seem satisfied. I do enjoy some of the games, but they haven't held my interest for long. I find myself enjoying DS, PSP + 360 way more.

[BeNice]

i see you are one of the masses who appears to find few games to enjoy, here's an idea. I am nto trying to talk down to you but go browse the shelves in game stores and buy games like no more heroes , zack and wiki, the upcoming mario kart (i'm excited for it), super mario galaxy, metroid prime 3 corruption. You also have a system that has excellent backwards compatability , so check out those gamecube games that are exclusive that ps2 never had and never will.

[bootsielon]

Not a computer entertainment system, or a game playing media center, or an adult's gadget.

[KeiZka]

Tell me, do you go about calling yourself an adult with posts like these? They don't exactly boost your image...

[ItsDubC]

"an object, often a small representation of something familiar, as an animal or person, for children or others to play with; plaything."

http://dictionary.reference...

It's just as easy to argue that consoles in general are toys because they are used to "play" games. This is why gaming has been stereotyped as being a children's hobby for so long.

[PS360WII]

PS3, Xbox 360, Wii, PS2, Xbox, GC, Dreamcast, PS1, N64, Saturn, SNES, Genesis, NES, Master System, PSP, DS, Game Gear, GBA, GB, Atari, etc. Can all be called toys not just the one.

[mirroredderorrim]

My comment above is in accordance to Bioware using the term "toy" as a derogative.

[wiizy]

i'll make it easy for him.. a videogame is a toy.... he got too much into thinking that bioshock was real.

[BeNice]

I don't want to post in the open zone, so if anyone who knows wants to draw his attention to my comment, I would like that, No doubt he will disagree with me. I think i have read claims if you being a real gamer, however I doubt that. A few reasons are as follows, you don't act amture in the first place , you act like a twleve year old, but you might not be, you just might be a little slow in brain development (this is my first rather rude comment on n4g and I hope to keep it that way) . Its individuals like you and shaka and ofcourse those idiots who take the names of prominent gaming individuals are really a curse on gmaing. You act like you know what gaming is about, you act like real gamers are a sort of elitist thing. In a way you're right , but I would say gamers are a brotherhood no matter what console you own. Judging a console by its power and thus claiming superiority has sadly started this gen. If graphics were that important why didn't the n64 win it was twice as powerful as the ps1, the gamecube was more powerful too, they didn't win. Nintendo catered to the hardcore gamers through both systems as well so you can't amke that claim. Any game on the ps2 except for the 72op mode in gt4 would have looked better on the gamecube or the xbox. Please get your heads around what gaming's abt its about the games not the consoles. BTW , if nintendo became a software company (god forbid) sony and microsoft would pay millions to get their games exclusive to the console.

To comment on the topic, is bioware making the claim that pacman, nfs, and gran turismo aren't games? they don't have a story do they?

[Steelshaper]

Thank You!

I've been trying to find the right words to completely describe what video game discussion has become on most forums. I think you completely nailed it. Though I doubt it will make any difference to the people it should. Still I commend you for saying it.

I'm a gamer. I've owned an NES, an SNES, a 64, a Gamecube, a Wii, a Gameboy/Color/Advance/DS, an Atari, a Playstation, a Game Gear, a PS2. I'd LOVE a PS3 if I had the cash, and no, I dont like Microsoft as a company so I wont buy their consoles, though I do use Windows(XP). Still, I respect the games on the 360. I used to get into arguments with my friend about Nintendo and Sega, back when I was a fanboy. But if you really want to consider yourself a gamer you have to play EVERYTHING. You can argue all you want about your preferences, but when it comes down to it everyone needs to grow up and get over it. Play what you want... and dont worry about what other people are playing.

In responce to the article:

I'd love a good RPG on the Wii that makes good use of the motion controls. You dont need good graphics to have a good story line. Do your job and make a fun game, market it well. You have more people to market it to. And if you make it good enough, maybe it'll sell systems to "core" gamers that dont think there are good games on the Wii.

[bootsielon]

It's simple. The Wii's purpose is to play old games and games with last generation technology with a gimmick add-on. It's not my opinion, it's everyones, look at the reviews. I'm even amazed that there are people that actually support the Wii.

By the way, it's sad that you had to vent your anger against a truly next-gen game that doesn't make sense to be "played" on Wii, wiitard.