Godchild10203854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

That's just for one console. How about for those of us that have 2 consoles in the same house?

Edit: You can use up to 2 systems concurrently: the system activated as your "primary" PS4™ system, and one other system.

mandf3854d ago

It says and I quote " one primary system and on concurent system." Same as this gen

Godchild10203854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

I got that when I clicked the second tab. The one that says "Playing on other PS4 systems when you are not home."

AliTheSnake13854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

"Games you purchase can be downloaded and played on any PS4™ system if you sign in to PSN℠. There is no limit on the number of systems you can use. * Only YOU can start games that you download."

GODDAMN IT. No more Sharing :(

mandf3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

It says and I quote " one primary system and on concurrent system." Same as this gen edit i was typing then you editted lol double post sorry that kind of night

KUV19773854d ago

It's actually not the same as this gen. On the second console only the owner of the digital content will be able to launch it. Other accounts can not start those games. However, on PS4 up to 4 accounts can be logged in simultaneously. Maybe this would be a work-around.

Game-Sharing in the way it was abused seems to be over. For households with multiple PS4s this may be inconvenient.

mandf3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

I do believe you are wrong. although maybe you are right edit your are wrong it is 2 system activations and the primary user does not have to sign in. It's all there in the faq

KUV19773854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

"Games you purchase can be downloaded and played on any PS4™ system if you sign in to PSN℠. There is no limit on the number of systems you can use. * Only you can start games that you download."

The last sentence does not sound like another account can start a game like it is now on PS3. The owner does not have to be logged in on the primary console, but on other consoles only he can start a game he owns. So you can play the game on two systems, even at the same time, but on the console of a friend, the friend account can not start the game and earn trophies in it, unless the 4 concurrend signins can be used in a way that the owner-account is logged in and starts the game but another account can then go on and play it, which I don't believe.

The game-sharing was not an intended feature. It was meant so that you could play games when on another console. It was however abused in a way that a game was bought once and then 'owned' by first 5, later 2 people. This is not in the interest of publishers. I believe the new system tries to fix this.

yewles13854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

@mandf

Incorrect, not what it says at all.

"You can use up to 2 systems 'CONCURRENTLY':"

"Only 'YOU' can start games that you download."

The original account needs to be activated and the game started by said original in order for others to play.

Mr_Writer853854d ago

@Yewles

You are muddling up the two statements.

The whole 'only YOU' thing is about playing the games on say a 3rd or 4th PS4.

The second is saying you have two PS4's that are a 'primary' console which says in the section before that it says you can play the game on any profile on the PS4.

KUV19773854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Now I get you. You suppose one can have multiple systems designated as being 'primary'. That would certainly fix the home-situation but I believe you can only have one primary console. It says 'your primary console' not 'your primary consoleS'. This way the app knows where to download your purchases to and the VITA knows to which console to connect. Shuhei Yoshida already confirmed that there is no pairing necessary between VITA and PS4. This would be much more difficult if you had multiple primary consoles. However I would not complain if that was the case. Let's wait and see. Maybe someone could ask Yoshida-San via twitter if multiple primary consoles are possible.

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rambi803854d ago

for once the fine print makes me happy. Totally missed it.

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evilbart3854d ago

Well that's great to hear my brother lives in Canada and we buy digital and share so glad this feature works with ps4

KUV19773854d ago

Not necessarily: "Games you purchase can be downloaded and played on any PS4™ system if you sign in to PSN℠. There is no limit on the number of systems you can use. * Only you can start games that you download." Unless you also share an account, or simultaneous login will be sufficient (which it very well may be).

thehitman3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Think that how it is already on ps3. Not really sure since the last time I actually tested it since they might have changed the policies but I use to share content w/ my friend who lived across the street from me all we had to do was keep his PSN account on my PS3 and vice versa for giving him stuff. I could dl anything he purchased and use it on my account like it was mine.

Probably only online games will be affected since you need to login w/ the psn account to play online but I think that even has changed w/ Sony adding multiple psn accounts for co-op playing online.

KUV19773854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Exactly, right now you just need to have his account on your console. The text, hoiwever, explicitly states, that only the owner of the content will be able to launch it. Maybe with the ability to aign 4 accounts in at a time, the owner-account can start it and the other account can earn trophies, but to me it sounds more like other accounts can not really do anything with the game, without the original owner being the active acount.

In regard to other systems:
"Games you purchase can be downloaded and played on any PS4™ system if you sign in to PSN℠. There is no limit on the number of systems you can use. * Only you can start games that you download."

stuna13854d ago

What I think the difference will be applied will be those with PS+, meaning that will be the determining factor as far as how restrictive digitally downloaded content can be shared. From my understanding I don't think PS+ can be shared over more than two consoles simultaneously, but digital content bought outside of PS+ can be shared unlimitedly if you own the game, and could probably be played on any PS4.

Note that this is just my assumption, and should in noway be taken as me stating a fact.

nevin13854d ago

lol, this stuff is crazy.

GentlemenRUs3854d ago (Edited 3854d ago )

Though can you use 2 Vita systems on one PS4 for remote share?

I was thinking on letting my younger brother link his Vita up to my PS4 so he can play the games from his Vita.

Darrius Cole3854d ago

What do you do if somebody steals you primary system?

SaffronCurse3854d ago

You can deactivate that system on Sony's account management website or you can call CS and ask them to deactivate it.

HugoDrax3854d ago

Yeap that's exactly what I did for my backwards compatible metal gear PS3 that was stolen from me...bastards!! Oh well they can keep it because in 3 weeks 11/15 I'll be upgrading lol

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PlayStation Plus Extra and Premium | Game Catalog

- Red Dead Redemption 2 | PS4
- Deceive Inc. | PS5
- The Sims 4 City Living | PS4
- Crime Boss: Rockay City | PS5
- The Settlers: New Allies | PS4
- Stranded: Alien Dawn | PS4, PS5
- Cat Quest | PS4
- Cat Quest II | PS4
- The LEGO Movie 2 Videogame | PS4
- Watch Dogs* | PS4

PlayStation Premium | Classics

- 2Xtreme | PS4, PS5
- G-Police | PS4, PS5
- Worms Pinball | PS4, PS5

shinoff21831h ago

They gotta do better on the premium side for sure. Where are any of those jrpgs from the ps1 Era. Come on Sony.

jznrpg42m ago

Most of the Sony JRPGS have been released. Square has a ton that could be ported over but they would need Squares involvement.

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Crime Boss! I know it hasn't reviewed well but I love the eighties action movie vibe of the trailer but didn't want to risk any money on it so this is a great way for me to play it.

outsider162447m ago

Looking at this list, i gotta ask what is even the point of premium?

raWfodog42m ago

I'm good with just my PS+ Essential

TheProfessional1h ago

If gamepass is so pointless and unprofitable why did PS shamelessly copy it with Plus extra?

shinoff21831h ago

Psnow was out well before gamepass. To boot most people talking sht about gamepass are talking day 1 releases. That and the fact that Xbox players as a whole aren't buying games like they should be. It's day 1 releases, Sony doesn't do that so you can't compare.

InUrFoxHole59m ago

Aren't buying games like they should be? That's the most company statement I've ever read.

thesoftware73038m ago(Edited 36m ago)

Shin,
While they do talk shit about every aspect of everything MS, including game pass, you just minimized it.

The first claim used to be that "It's all old games" because MS doesn't make new games. I then sit and watch people celebrate games that have been on GP for months/years, being celebrated on PS Plus.

Then when plenty of new good games were hitting regularly, the complaint changed to, the games suck, and the quality of them is bad because of GP.

When that well ran dry, it moved to GP, which is unsustainable and hurting developers.

Then, when MS said it had been making a profit, the goalpost moved again to ownership of games, and GP is driving killing off physical media.

In the meantime, Sony has produced a Digital Playstation and created a robust sub-service that they revamped after seeing the success of GP and admitting their service would not catch up to GP(Sony said it, not me). They also released some games on day 1 in the service. Both companies are doing very similar things, but the less popular brand generally receives the brunt of the negativity.

ChasterMies42m ago

“shamelessly”

These are giant corporations, not Renaissance painters.

MrNinosan36m ago(Edited 36m ago)

Maybe collect some braincells before calling yourself TheProfessional.

GamePass copied PSNow, not the other way around.
PSNow later changed name to PS+ Extra and Premium.
What makes GamePass unprofitable is because day 1 games makes gamers stop buying games and the amount of subscribers is too low to make up for it.

You don't need a lot of math knowledge to figure the rest out.

S2Killinit35m ago

Didn’t PSPlus do it first and MS copied. I kind of remember it this way… your comment didn’t age well.

And you seem to be missing the point.

VersusDMC10m ago(Edited 9m ago)

My memory is that playstation started it with the instant game collection which is pretty much what the Monthly games on PS essential is now.

PS now was cloud only and on demand (pay for by hour or day) with no subscription.

MS did the games with gold and gamepass as an awnser to the instant
game collection.

Then PSNow changed to subscription and native downloads(not cloud) like gamepass.

I'm of the mind that gamepass is another version of the instant game collection but i could see people seeing gamepass as the first one to do it in that particular way.

I'm going on memory too so not comited to this timeline.

Eonjay35m ago

Its about Day 1 releases. They don't put game in there day one because they want to get their money back before they give it away for 'free'. This is what the debate boils down to. The reason day one becomes an issues is because in order to make money back on games costing 200+ million to make you would need to either have Plus cost more a month or you would have to have many more subscribers (which is preferable to these companies). Activision was spending somewhere in the range of 4 billion a year to produce yearly COD games. The profit they made a year came in around 1 billion. If the revenue from GP has to also pay for the production cost of COD, it would take many, many decades to see a return on the purchase. That is the issue.

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