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Microsoft demonstrates Halo 4 streaming from the cloud to Windows and Windows Phones

TheVerge:

Microsoft is building its own cloud gaming service. Company officials demonstrated a prototype of the service during an internal company meeting today. Sources familiar with the meeting revealed to The Verge that Microsoft demonstrated Halo 4 running on a Windows Phone and PC, both streaming the game from the cloud. We're told that the concept service runs smoothly on both devices, and that Microsoft has managed to reduce the latency on a Lumia 520 to just 45ms.

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wtopez3877d ago

This game should be released on PC...

JokesOnYou3877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

"According to a report from The Verge, Microsoft held 'internal meetings' today in which it showed the 343 Industries shooter - currently only available for Xbox 360 - running on Windows-powered phone and PC devices as part of a demonstration of a new and as-yet unnamed 'prototype' cloud technology."

-Maybe it will. Whats interesting is this use of the cloud and the potential benefits of this new "prototype cloud technology" if this is legit. As much as some say the cloud is all PR smoke from micro, I think it will prove to be a great resource for gaming in a variety of ways.

Bigpappy3877d ago

Hopefully they could use it to let me play my digital collection from 360 on my X1. That would be a neat gift that I would very much appreciate.

NatureOfLogic3877d ago

Sony have Gaikai which was doing this before Sony even bought them. MS saying that the cloud will improve graphics is PR smoke. Cloud gaming is nothing new. Fanboys only pay attention to things that have been around for awhile when their favorite company speak of it. MS is hyping old news. So, yes It's PR smoke.

NateCole3877d ago

streaming games from the cloud is nothing new. Heard of onlive and Gaikai?.

malokevi3877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

@natureoflogic

Halo 4 being streamed to a smartphone using azure... PR smoke?!

I'm not even sure how to respond to that...

UltimateMaster3877d ago

Yeah, Sony announced they were going to be able to stream their games on smart phones at their reveal using Gaikai.

AngelicIceDiamond3877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

E3 2014 maybe?

That would be a great event to showcase this. That is if they fully come through with it.

EDIT: Logic failed, and failed hard on that entire statement, Seriously you should erase that and try again lol wow.

@Nate Yeah we know its nothing new nobody here said anything about it being new or anything.

Evilsnuggle3877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

Jokes steaming games is not new nor does it improve graphics over standard Internet. It send info and buffers like a video on online with buffering enough lanetcy can be over come. Steaming games is not improving games are real time and have bandwidth and latency restrains no matter what microSCAM says. its not possible over standard Internet. I have read alot of networking web site articles explaining why it not possible over standard Internet
In real time you have to send info the GPU not CPUs that microscam have has to process then send back to you before the next frame of a game over and over again. Not possible over standard Internet also Microscam owners or as cloud CPU bank not GPU bank.

gamertk4213877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

@evil Steaming games may not be ideal, but they do retain more vitamins and nutrients that way.

n4rc3877d ago

@evil

You have little to no clue what you are talking about..

Cloud processing is a data stream.. 1s and 0s.. Bandwidth has little to do with what they are advertising.

If you can stream a full game in real time then how the hell cant you stream cloud computed instructions for the console to process locally.. Rather then use up local resources to do the calculations..

Save your fanboy rants and move along

AngelicIceDiamond3877d ago

This is a very modest comment thread here except for a few fanboys but that's nothing compared to this.

http://n4g.com/comments/red... Seems to me Xbox fans are way more mature than the other fanbase.

Is it immature that I brought this up? Sure but the comments are such night and day I had to compare.

WeAreLegion3877d ago

Xbox fans are more mature?!? Both groups are equally immature. It's not like two completely different groups of people chose Sony or Microsoft. They're all the same. Go to a Driveclub YouTube video. Go to a Forza 5 YouTube video. Horrible trolling from both sides is present.

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TheFamous13877d ago

But that would make too much sense and Microsoft doesn't know what the fuck they are doing.

Bundi3877d ago

All these billions in profit they keep making has been dumb luck?

jmc88883877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

Well Windows and DOS wasn't created by Microsoft, so yeah, I'd say that it was dumb luck they acquired those franchises. Because basically they ARE Microsoft. Everything else that came after is because of that.

Not dumb as in they didn't know what they were doing was going to be very profitable, but dumb as in someone was dumb enough to let go of Windows and DOS and Microsoft was the beneficiary of some moron allowing them to buy it.

As for Office, it was always MS response to Applesoft.

So yeah, I'd say most of their business IS dumb luck.

Shadowsteal3877d ago

Microsoft has cloud gaming through Azure
Sony has cloud gaming through Gaikai

Here's the difference

Eventually both services will hit phones and tablets. For Sony the most comfortable boxes to stream to would be the PS4, PS3, PS Vita TV, and above all the PS Vita. Why? Controllers we all love and buttons we love pushing.

For it to be viable to work on Microsoft's front they need to create something to allow customers to use a controller or make their version of PS Vita Tv. Because Halo 4 with touch screen controls? Ew don't make me barf.

Software_Lover3877d ago

......... You can use wired/wireless 360/XBone controllers on any windows device that has a USB port.

As far as cell phones go, you are right. They will need to come up with a solution. But to be honest, I'm not streaming those types of games to my cell phone in the first place.

mhunterjr3877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

"Microsoft's demonstration included a Windows Phone with a Xbox controller attached through an accessory"

That's the best solution as they already have attachments that can work with most cell phones. I also wouldn't be surprised to see a iPhone controller styleperipheral eventually

DeadlyFire3877d ago

You are forgetting Sony also mentioned the PC As does Microsoft.

Basically if your a PC gamer in about 1-4 years you will be getting Xbox and Playstation exclusives tied into Cloud services available to play at your desk or on your phone. Win/win for PC community if they have bandwidth.

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Stuntz3877d ago

uh oh Microsoft is about to hit a homerun. Sorry fellas but Azure is WAYYY better then gaikai dont even kid yourself. Azure is a multi multi multi billion dollar corporation lol.

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Angels37853877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

You realize Gaikai can do the same thing.......

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...

here's multiple sources for your tiny mind.

They announced this long before microsoft...every day its looking more and more like xbox ones "cloud" is more cpu processes and streaming....just like sony....only they didn't make as big a deal out of it.....

Tctczach3877d ago

Gaiki "can" put ps3 games on smartphones? Please provide some proof to that. I don't think it is that ready for that if it isn't even ready for Europe. And they have fiber optic cabling. Hahaha

DeadlyFire3877d ago

@Tctczach You are aware that a cloud service is basically a mini App that is put out. It can fit on any device once its up and running. It streams from one device to any other device that accesses it. It could run on the PS3 and X360 if they wanted to allow for that. Say they release a version of their cloud service on the PS3/X360 next year with only demos of PS4/1BX games available for consumers to try out to inspire next gen sales.

Its nothing to do with cabling that is slowing Sony down. Its just server infrastructure in Europe isn't ready for Gaikai. Sony is building server centers as well you know. That takes time.

AznGaara3877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

Microsoft's senior director of Xbox, Albert Penello, said "it could be more complicated things like rendering full games like a Gaikai and delivering it to the box"

I wonder how many ppl will ignore this. Oh wait.. we just read the article title and comment. Whoops. My bad internet.

DeadlyFire3877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

You can't BS us.

Azure is nice, but so is Gaikai, OnLive, OTOY, NVIDIA Grid, and the inevitable others.

Game streaming is a relatively simple cloud process. Its just framerate vs. graphics quality with the bandwidth you can expect some delayed input. If its good enough though it shouldn't matter to much to have small delay. Wireless controllers are 200-300 ms for X360/PS3. 45ms isn't bad. :)

Mystogan3876d ago

Except Azure probably has more than 10 times the servers than all these services combined. And I'm not joking.

DeadlyFire3875d ago

You mean it will in the future. Microsoft doesn't have all of their claimed 300,000 servers ready. They are still building server centers. They bought the whole industrial park in my county and it has been in the works for awhile and will be for at least another year or so for whatever they are building there.

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MultiConsoleGamer3877d ago

Onlive did it before Sony and before Microsoft.

And everyone mocked them.

Now idiot fanboys are praising their favorite team for doing the same thing they once mocked.

In before " b-b-b-but this is somehow different and better because the company I support is doing it now!"

rainslacker3877d ago

They mocked onlive because it wasn't considered a very good service, and IIRC it had shoddy customer service. Never heard anything bad about Gaikai, never really paid attention until Sony was rumored to be buying them.

I still don't care either way, it's nice they have it, but I would prefer hardware BC unless I can stream for free games I already own physically. Otherwise it appears cloud streaming will offer some improvements to Digital distribution in general.

Oh right...sorry I forgot you have no real argument to make. Call everyone a hypocrite and call it a day. No reason to really think of a good argument.

In fact no reason to even address the topic at hand when you can take a jab at Sony fans.

To take my own criticism to heart

On topic: Cloud streaming is a neat feature. I'm glad MS is possibly going to offer it to those who want it.

MultiConsoleGamer3877d ago

Most of those same fanboys you mention never actually tried Onlive so they were in no position to judge.

And the quality of Onlive isn't the issue here, they still got there first. Deal with it.

Also, its painfully ironic and quite telling that when I said "hypocrite fanboys" you thought I was only talking about Sony fans, even though I mentioned both teams and this article is about Microsoft, not Sony. Insecure much?

So your whole post is nothing more than a thinly veiled personal attack. So now I have proven that you are the one without any real argument. Just childish whining.

rainslacker3876d ago

Guess I've been told then. Sorry, but knowing your past comment history, it's painfully obvious what you mean when you mention fan boys.

And you've really proven nothing, I have no reason to personally attack you, all I do is point out how you more often than not call out fan boys because you have no real argument. If you had one, fan boys wouldn't even come into the discussion.

The hypocrisy card has been played out along with the fan boy card, so why does everyone keep clinging to it?

MultiConsoleGamer3876d ago

You should know all about my past comment history, you've been stalking me with your other account for quite some time.

Welcome to the ignore list.

And you're right, you've been told hard and now you're just blathering and making yourself look even more foolish.

Ohlmay3877d ago

Sounds incredible, Halo 4 on my smartphone, that would be fantastic! I hope 360 and PS3 games will be streamed to PC's soon, I'd love to play Last of Us and Halo 4 on PC :)

Neixus3877d ago

sony talked about streaming games to PC, microsoft haven't,though.

Ohlmay3877d ago

If they could Cloud Stream to a smartphone, what's stopping them from streaming to a PC?

DeadlyFire3877d ago (Edited 3877d ago )

Microsoft is to lazy to actually make a PC title. So streaming the X360, or 1BX version to PC would be a slice of cake for them. Also with their own cloud service on PC they could setup something similar to Steam, but for Cloud streaming games. As Cloud streaming gives them a right to charge you for their service.

So they are attempting XBL Gold Round 2 for PC users in the future. Be warned. This time though you get actual Microsoft games on the platform. So Idk if its worth it or not just yet. We will have to see it running to determine that. Hearing that Halo 4 is on it could mean PC users get actual up to date Microsoft IPs on the PC. I just wonder if this means they are thinking about selling games on the PC in retail/digital form.

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How can any Xbox studio trust Microsoft now?

For Xbox’s hugely expanded gaming division, anything that isn’t Call of Duty is now a failure, and that’s a problem

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lelo2play17h ago

Honestly, If I worked presently for Microsoft's gaming division, I would update my CV and look for work elsewhere...

Simon_the_sorcerer17h ago

I would do the same, because MS will most likely pull-off more stunts like this in the near future...

Chocoburger7h ago

"Now"?

How about "ever"?

They closed so many of their dev teams during the second half of the Xbox 360 era. Have we forgotten history so quickly?

Dummy fake journalists acting so surprised over these recent closures, when this is something that's been going on for well over a decade now with MS.

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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just_looken13h ago

Sense it seems very few remember that human's were around before 2020 the next studio to close will be bethesda based no doubt on the history of.

Fallout 76
Elder scrolls online
elder scrolls blades mobile
fallout mobile
The vr versions of old games

Then you got starfield pissing out cash nothing to cover it.

I doubt tod's team or any sub team is making m$ cash they are no doubt on the chopping block for job cuts

If you can remember before 2020 even fallout 76 was made with over 4 studios.

purple10123m ago(Edited 20m ago)

pretty sure starfield coming to playstation 2024, nx gamer deep diving on the creation engine update in a recent blog, he seems to think, there is a lot of stuff developed to use on starfield for its Playstation release,

who will buy it though, ?? I think M$ has lost all good will now, after the Activision debacle, and now all these studios closing, people dont want to support them even if the game is half decent

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"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno14h ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

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Profchaos12h ago

Leaders can't run them hire more management create new roles don't shutter entire studios cause you can't figure out how to run them.

Unless the reality is this whole consolidation thing was really an excuse for IP harvesting

anast2h ago

He's lying. They are doing it for the shareholders.

Eonjay14h ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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NotoriousWhiz13h ago

And out of the ashes something even better than Xbox will be born.

Eonjay13h ago

Honestly as long as is not a situation where the industry has to contract in order focus wealth on a few people who are already trillionaires..

Barlos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

It's already here and it was born before Xbox was even a thing. It's called PlayStation.

Tacoboto12h ago

I think 2022 killed the Series X.

2021 was a good year for Xbox though and maybe the best in a long long time, hardware and software and as a publisher. Halo Infinite launched to popularity, Forza Horizon 5 blew everyone away, Psychonauts 2 was so well received, Flight Simulator on console, Deathloop even on PS5 & PC.

But they followed that up with next to nothing. Then 2023 with Redfall, a disappointing Forza, Starfield, and 2024 leads with closures and layoffs. And some tweets reminding us Hellblade is days away.

The only disappointment with the PS5 is not enough Sony games. Xbox followed up no games with disappointing ones.

Scissorman14h ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff218314h ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

porkChop2h ago

"the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation"

But the same thing *has* been happening at PS. They've closed, what, 3 or 4 studios so far this gen? Laid off plenty of staff, restructured studios, etc.

BehindTheRows55m ago(Edited 51m ago)

PlayStation isn’t struggling. Xbox is. That’s the difference.

Sony also didn’t buy out multiple publishers with LOTS of studios and leave them in a state of uncertainty.

So, he’s absolutely right that Sony not following Game Pass in its entirety was smart as this very thing could have happened. Name a team, like Tango, who wasn’t struggling (like Tango) that Sony closed. Every closure was because of a studio who wasn’t pulling their weight.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast1d 2h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech521h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom23h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff218323h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus2322h ago(Edited 22h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-19h ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

Elda18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

To me...Avowed graphics look cheap, the game looks generic as well as boring.

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anast1d 2h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast21h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim21h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

anast17h ago

I find it interesting that people have to resort to praising how they were randomly born in a certain location to say they're not weird. But, I'm not sure this kind of stupidity can be generalized over an entire group of people, at least, I'm being optimistic here.

Eonjay1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman1d ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto22h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA22h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda22h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz14922h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT20h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Skuletor16h ago

Wasn't it no new existing IP entries? That would still leave room for new IPs, maybe we'll see one or more of those this year.

Sonic188120h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead1d 1h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson23h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff218323h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus2322h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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