How to record/stream the PS3(And maybe PS4)

Heres a quick video tutorial on how to setup the ps3 to bypass HDCP for recording/streaming. With the rumours that the PS4 might keep HDCP, this method should work on the next gen as well

[SonyNGP]

Hey Sony. You know what would be cool? If I could use my Elgato with my pre-ordered PS4 without having to buy extra equipment to strip a dumb encryption that other consoles don't have.

The sooner you announce it's exclusion, the better :)

[phantomlink]

Just read up on those devices, they are a HDMI recording device, which claim to passthrough however they are still affected by HDCP? Sounds like a bad case of false advertising

[svoulis]

This is the most expensive way to bypass HDCP. I don't understand why people do this as it cost a lot more money then the simple way.

I made a diagram for people to see how easy it is.

http://i.imgur.com/DKVsAC4....

All you need is a Cheap HDMI splitter follow that diagram and you are set. Simple I do it for my livestream and recordings.

I also included the pros for using an HDMI splitter in the picture.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1x2...

[phantomlink]

Its not really that much more expensive then your method. You still need that capture card itself which is the largest expense. That splitter is $20, this converter box was $30 when I bought it

[svoulis]

The whole idea is that they have a capture card already. What would be the point if not right?

Anyway your way and most of a lot of other people involves a few extra cables as well.

1 DVI to HDMI converter- lets say somewhere between 2-5$ on ebay

1 Optical cable - lets say 2-5$ on ebay.

1 HDMI To DVI converter box - anywhere from 50-80 dollars on ebay.

1 EXTRA HDMI cable assuming you are going to be playing on a TV monitor and not through xsplot or obs (bad idea cause of latency) - lets say another 5 dollars.

So in total this method cost anywhere from 80 to 100+ dollars.

Or you could simply use a HDMI splitter that cost 15-20$ and it also passes the audio through as well so no need for optical cables etc.

Not saying the video you showed is incorrect as that method does work, just saying it cost about 80+ dollars more to do it this way.

EDIT - I also assumed shipping and tax etc on my "pricing"

[Gamesgbkiller]

Here is a video for those who can't bother reading :
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[phantomlink]

Thats the video I saw and replied to a few comments about, I meant to make an article a few months ago about it and people asked about a video on how to hook it up, so I threw one together yesterday

[dboyman]

Sorry to ask this but how does the splitter work? Does it actually "strip" the HDCP from the end going to the capture device? Most splitters I seen don't mention that option. So is the splitter you mentioned different?

[svoulis]

The splitter strips HDCP from the PS3 and possibly PS4 to the output signal, on both your capture device and your TV.

I can confirm this is in fact the best way as I've done every method of stripping HDMI and this is the easiest and best.

[dboyman]

Ok. But does any HDMI splitter work, or just that particular model? Reason I ask is someone giving me a spare splitter...

[Lboogieskells]

@svoulis

You the man.

[mixelon]

I use the splitter method. It will also work on the ps4. :) id bet on it.

[thehitman]

Or... could just use the share button.

[phantomlink]

How is the share button going to let you edit? If you read my article, I said we have no idea what the limits on the built in Twitch are. Using a program like Xsplit allows you to customize a stream greatly, I still plan to renew my license for the premium membership just because of the customization you can do.

Also, how are you going to get the saved videos off your ps3 harddrive? Twitch is nice for saving some content, but I'd rather upload my dedicated recordings to Youtube

[thehitman]

Um... I am pretty sure they said it gets saved to the HDD so plugging in a usb probably works or since you can upload it to twitch, ustream, twitter, facebook you could easily take it from there after u upload it on your PC and edit it as freely as you want. Takes a little common sense + brain work.

Also I am pretty sure you can upload directly to youtube the question is whether all these video capture device will work easily with the ps4.

[svoulis]

Share button will probably be limited for all we know. I've invested over 1000 dollars on a streaming PC and even if my PS4 has Twitch integrated I still prefer to use my hardware to stream cause I try and achieve the absolute best quality I can for my viewers. I highly doubt you will have that kind of freedom with the PS4 or Xbox One for livestreaming.

OBS and Xsplit allow for overlays, and setting up the stream as you see fit. including where you want the webcam to be placed.

[Hicken]

"...probably be limited for all we know."

And it will probably be unlimited for all we know.

Not trying to knock you or anything, but if we don't know anything one way or the other, why take the extreme?

[svoulis]

@Hicken, lets just assume you know nothing about livestreaming.

Livestreaming is very very intensive on your PC if you have high quality settings 720p+ 30fps-60fps.

Also the "interface" for both Xbox One and PS4 will be limited to what Sony and Microsoft allows (Do to performance impact while gaming)

For example. If I stream Battlefield 4 on my desktop and want to stream it at 60fps @720p it will max out my CPU and cause lag throughout the game. Streaming is very heavy on the CPU and it shows. Thats why I've built a streaming PC separate from my gaming PC to do all the streaming/encoding/uploading work for me.

If i were to lower the quality to like 540p with 25-30FPS for recording/streaming it will be fine and not max out my CPU.

Also overlays are the things you put ontop of your video feed like Graphic art etc. For example I have a webcam overlay on my stream as well as for the chat on twitch.tv.

For example here is a highlight from my livestream
http://www.twitch.tv/xgrave...

PS4 nor Xbox One will allow you to use custom made overlays I can assure you that.

The streaming you can expect for next gen consoles will probably be somewhere around 540p with 20-30fps livestreaming for performance reasons alone.

I'd still prefer to use my custom built streaming PC as it is more then capable of streaming 720p @ 60fps.

About the share button, Sony has already made mutliple remarks reguarding sharing "Clips" with friends...not entire hour+ long gameplay footage. A clip is generally a few minutes long.

Still speculation but I don't think you can sit there and record your entire gameplay and share it..honestly.

[thehitman]

@svoulis

You do know that Sony has a dedicated cpu just for streaming and there is more than enough resources to allow it w/o a performance hit otherwise they wouldnt of made it 1 of the main functions on the system. You shouldnt assume that there will be limitations like Hicken said you obviously know nothing about the ps4 architecture and strength to base your reasoning on why using the share button over a capture device will be better or different.

If you want to justify your money you spent for streaming by doing it through your PC then go ahead, but I doubt you will get much better quality or even have an easier process while doing it.

[phantomlink]

Edit: Meant for @thehitman didn't hit the right button

I've never tried plugging an external into my ps3, so I don't know if it would let you export saved data to it, we'll have to see when the ps4 is in our hands.

Capture cards are great things, dont get me wrong. I love what I can do with mine, and with the quality settings in the latest software update, a one hour long video can be well over 20gb. Ya the ps3 has 500gb to start, and can be upgraded but I'd rather store everything on the 5TB+ my computer has setup for this and keep my ps3 harddrive for my games.

The only cards that shouldn't work with the ps4 are ones that don't have HDMI capabilities, unless Sony pulls a fast one and somehow finds a way to block any device that doesn't tell the system its a TV somehow we'll be fine