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Microsoft Accelerates Its Data Center Expansion

Microsoft is accelerating a global expansion of its data center infrastructure to support growth in its Azure cloud services and Xbox Live gaming service. At a time when many cloud builders are debating whether to build or buy their data center space, Microsoft is doing both.

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DiRtY3900d ago

But Blow said "MS are LIARZ!" when they announced 300k servers for XBL...

YNWA963899d ago

Why do people who submit stories have to be the first ones to comment! Leave it be, let others have there say!!!

malokevi3899d ago (Edited 3899d ago )

Saw this yesterday. Not surprised. This info has been out there for a while.

"This week Microsoft said it would also invest $250 million to build a new data center in Finland."

That's almost as much of an investment in a single pre-existing data center in Finland as Sony invested in it's entire Gaiaka service.

Are the morons who keep trumpeting "Sony's cloud is as capable and more proven than MS' Azure" going to shut their faces now? Probably not, but at least we know for a fact that they are stuffed full of excrement. As if there was ever any doubt.

Not only is it now the biggest, but it's also the fastest... which is important for our purposes

"Microsoft Azure was 56% faster than AWS S3 when it came to writing data into its cloud, and 39% faster when reading data."

http://www.networkworld.com...

P0werVR3899d ago

Very true, and why I chose Xbox One for these very reasons.

It's ridiculous to downplay Azure, because if anything the potential of Azure is just beyond most peoples comprehension because it's so new.

So when it comes down to it, Gaikai has nothing on Azure by a moon shot.

walkincarpet3899d ago

but don't you enjoy the comedy? The Sony fan boys will go into every level of detail why the PS4 will be more powerful than X1 with all these crazy numbers they don't understand; yet when they compare the clouds they skip all the details and just claim they are similar. They do the exact same thing with Kinect and Eye. Do yourself a favor and consider their nonsense free entertainment while you look forward to a truer next gen experience.

malokevi3899d ago

Way ahead of you, walkin. I consider this place more of a zoo than a news site. Look at the silly monkeys!

Now if only I could get my hands on some cotton candy...

LucasEVille3899d ago

I felt a great disturbance in the force, like a million Sony fanboys cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

The day (2-3 years from now) that cloud finally shows the capability of xbox beyond ps4. Because MS can afford to throw limitless money at this while Sony sell buildings to stay afloat.

To me I believe Sony's delay in providing cloud services is so they can spend their initial income from the PS4 on playing catch up. But they cannot play catch up with a beast like MS.

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nukeitall3899d ago

MS and maybe Amazon and Google is the only one that can have that kind of infrastructure available. This means dedicated server on every game and what enables Titanfall to be developed. Power of the cloud!

"“I claim there really are almost no companies in the world, just a handful, that are really investing in scaled public cloud infrastructure,” said Ballmer. “We(Microsoft] have something over a million servers in our data center infrastructure. Google is bigger than we are. Amazon is a little bit smaller. You get Yahoo! and Facebook, and then everybody else is 100,000 units probably or less. So the number of companies that really understand the network topology, the data center construction, the server requirements to build this public cloud infrastructure is very, very small.”

Source is from the same site: http://www.datacenterknowle...

ShwankyShpanky3899d ago

So if "the cloud" is Xbone special sauce, how does Titanfall work on the 360?

malokevi3899d ago

Have you seen it working on the 360? Have you considered that, like Respawn has stated, that it's a significantly scaled down version of the game that tries to provide the same basic gameplay experience? That it's being handled by another studio entirely?

No, of course you didn't consider any of that. You just assume that they are the same game, running the same way. Because, you know, you have absolutely no underlying bias, or pre-conceived negativity. Just an impartial observer making innocent suggestions, EH, SHWANK?

nukeitall3899d ago

@ShwankyShpanky:

What malokevi said, but also I said the cloud enables the Titanfall to be developed, not Xbox One. MS cloud also powers Xbox 360 and PC in addition to Xbox One.

Undoubtedly as Titanfall devs themselves has said, the Xbox One will have more niceties than even the PC version, let alone Xbox 360 version or any other platform out there if it ever comes.

"TitanFall ‘couldn’t be made’ without Xbox Cloud, Xbox One version better than PC version"

http://gimmegimmegames.com/...

“We[Titanfall dev] won’t get all the nice-ities on PCs that you get on Xbox One. There will be some re-engineering things.”

ShwankyShpanky3899d ago (Edited 3899d ago )

Here's what I've seen:

Cloud makes Titanfall awesome!
Cloud makes Xbone awesome!
(but Titanfall will be on 360 and PC)

I don't assume they're the same game. But the facts lead to one of two conclusions:
1) The cloud's impact on the Xbone is overstated.
2) Titanfall on 360 will be crap.

Either the Cloud is awesome-sauce or it isn't. Either the Cloud is an amazing resource only possible with the Xbone, or it's just marketing-speak for "remote servers."

And yes... I am biased against spinmeister hucksters that feed me disinfo and treat me like I'm stupid because I don't buy into their "vision" or whatnot. My "negativity" is not "pre-conceived," it is a result of MS's policies, philosophies, and actions. Stop acting like folks just woke up one day, saw an article in the news and said "My-Kro-Soft? Never heard of them, but they're making a console that competes with Sony SO I HATE THEM!!1!!" I never had a PS1, didn't get a PS2 until it was well into the slim models (for business trips), and I only bought like three games for it. Didn't get a PS3 until late 2007 when it was $399, and that was mainly because it had Unreal Tournament.

@Nuke: Actually, the pertinent quote would be: "You couldn’t make this game without having that kind of dedicated server support." So again... "the Cloud" is just remote servers.

BTW... the "update" to that article (which also directly contradicts your claim that "MS cloud also powers Xbox 360 and PC in addition to Xbox One):"

UPDATE: This isn’t a confirmation of the PC version being “inferior” or “lesser” necessarily but Respawn is outright admitting it will have less “nice-ities”, whatever that means. Take that for what you will. Now we just have to bother Respawn to find out what their definition of “nice” stuff in games are. At face value it sounds like they’re saying the Xbox One version will be better due to these “nice-ities” though without knowing what they are it is hard to say.

Do they mean substantial stuff like better visuals, or something more minor? Dedicated servers or something else? Hopefully something minor. Depending on what these “nice-ities” are there may not be much difference between versions or there could be a substantial difference. Respawn did go out of their way to say that they aren’t going to be using the Xbox cloud servers on the PC version, so maybe they will set up cloud servers for the PC version.

This “can’t be made without cloud” statement that Respawn is using is an odd one because if the PC/360 versions don’t use the cloud then what is so special about it? What we need to know is what these “nice” features are that are only enabled by the cloud and whether Respawn actually plans to use cloud computing on the PC version too. It doesn’t sound like they will right now but that could always change.

malokevi3899d ago (Edited 3899d ago )

Oh my god, did you need to use all those words to repeat your empty, thoughtless train of thought?

"This isn’t a confirmation of the PC version being “inferior” or “lesser” necessarily but Respawn is outright admitting it will have less “nice-ities”, whatever that means. Take that for what you will. Now we just have to bother Respawn to find out what their definition of “nice” stuff in games are. At face value it sounds like they’re saying the Xbox One version will be better due to these “nice-ities” though without knowing what they are it is hard to say. "

uhhhhhhh.... wtf are you talking about? "niceties" are whatever they want them to be. Could be visual, could be physics, AI, could be controller, smartglass... who knows.

You typing out massive paragraphs that say nothing doesn't do anything for anybody.

Bottom of the line: Xbox One version will be the better version, regardless of how you want to try and spin the word "niceties". Probably not significantly nicer than the PC version, but certainly a lot nicer than the X360 version. Thats just... obvious.

The PC version wont use Thunderhead, but you can bet your bottom dollar it will use Azure, as will the Xbox360 version, I imagine.

Who cares specifically what the cloud does or does not do in this instance? And even if you care so much, you aren't going to know until the game is released or Respawn decides to meet the question head on.

Fact is, the cloud is there, it's massive, it's fast, and it's at the disposal of every developer to leverage however they see fit. Beyond that, I'm not sure why you feel the need to ramble on? Talking around it wont make it go away, if that's what your after.

nukeitall3899d ago (Edited 3899d ago )

@ShwankyShpanky:

First of all, you should really provide sources to things you say. I have not seen any mention of PC version not using MS cloud. That said, there is no reason that cloud isn't available elsewhere.

The important thing to note here are:

a) cloud servers can be had elsewhere. However, how close they are to you matter i.e a person living in New York would likely have far better online experience if the server is in Philadelphia than in Tokyo. That is why the number of servers, and the spread of the warehouses matter.

That means not all clouds are equivalent.

b) cloud can be used to compute physics, AI and even light. For physics and AI, Titanfall has been confirmed to use the cloud:

http://venturebeat.com/2013...

Although, Titanfall has not been confirmed to use cloud based light rendering, but nvidia has demonstrated it is possible:

http://www.tomshardware.com...

c) a downgraded game is potentially released on Xbox 360 and PC. Even when games that aren't on parity, are often said as such, so saying"Niceties" is a polite way of avoiding alienating potential customers on other platform.

d) dedicated server is such a huge leap in experience that I will buy that version for any multiplayer game. There is nothing more furiating that encountering cheaters and lag.

Xbox One is where most of the cloud stuff is happening and hence my choice first over almost anything.

"This “can’t be made without cloud” statement that Respawn is using is an odd one because if the PC/360 versions don’t use the cloud then what is so special about it?"

Source of where Respawn said PC / 360 version doesn't use cloud?

In fact, give me sources in general as you claim a lot about what Respawn said, but as an excited fan for Titanfall and avid news follower, I have not read anything backing most of what you claim.

ShwankyShpanky3899d ago (Edited 3899d ago )

@Malokevi: The fact that you think that I "typed out massive paragraphs" instead of just copy/pasting the exact wording straight from Nuke's gimmegimmegames link is an adorable indication of your level of denial.

"Who cares specifically what the cloud does or does not do in this instance?"

Um... anyone who's interested in next gen consoles should care what the cloud does/can or doesn't/can't do, especially Xbone fans, since it's being hyped as such an important selling point.

@Nuke: "First of all, you should really provide sources to things you say."

It's YOUR SOURCE: http://gimmegimmegames.com/...

nukeitall3899d ago (Edited 3899d ago )

@ShwankyShpanky:

"It's YOUR SOURCE: http://gimmegimmegames.com/...

My apologies, I misread your original comment slightly and interpreted "Xbox One cloud" as "MS cloud".

I thought it would be weird if Respawn didn't use MS cloud for Titanfall even on PC. Respawn is just saying PC version isn't using the same servers as Xbox One. That makes sense, because they are two different plaform with likely very different feature support, anti-cheating mechanism and no cross play.

However, they are likely using MS Azure and most likely even uses the same server and software technology as the Xbox One.

To what degree PC is able to match Xbox One version, I do not know.

I'm very excited to enter the cloud era for gaming! ...that is where it matters, not in that streaming cr@p that was really bad with OnLive/Gakai.

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P0werVR3899d ago (Edited 3899d ago )

Regional Data Centers and pot shot containers as filler for certain businesses or areas.

If this is not a testament to how grounded Microsoft is with their approach for next gen, i don't know what is.

Last time I heard it was nearly $10 billion. Now it's $15 billion.

EDIT:

Also, that near $10 billion was only for R&D....CRAZY MONEY!

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N4G853899d ago

Well blow is only kidding himself if he really thought Microsoft wasn't going 300k dedicated servers or more

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urwifeminder3899d ago

Wow that's rather impressive will use some electricity though I wonder if many of these centres have solar and other forms of power back up.

Fireseed3899d ago

I would hope they use some alternative energy sources, since datacenters require a pretty consistent level of electricity it'd be easier for them to calculate out what they need.

urwifeminder3899d ago

Yeah I seen some show about how much power and heat they use and produce some are coming up with clever ways of using waste heat and some are putting power back into the grid as they are self sufficient.

ShwankyShpanky3899d ago

Of course they have back-up power. It probably comes with the word "Caterpillar" or "Cummins" written on the side. I *seriously* doubt they use solar back-up. It may supplement their grid, but it would be ridiculous to rely on it exclusively.

BallsEye3899d ago

Powered by sea ocean waves maybe :P? Google does that.

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n4rc3899d ago

Maybe the "1 million servers" will stop all the denial about 300k available to xbl

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk771d 5h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE1d 2h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7301d 2h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor23h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos23h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor23h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos23h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC2d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled3d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k43d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot3d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC2d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k42d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k42d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody3d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast3d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19793d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead4d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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