Rockstar Screws Microsoft on GTA IV

From Gameplayer... "Rockstar has, deliberately or not, undermined Microsoft's chances of not only shipping a bucket-load of consoles, but potentially from coming out on top of the console wars."

[jwatt]

I really find it hard to believe M$ will not have a gta bundle in the U.S at least, unless Sony made some kind of deal.

[sonarus]

Well from the looks of it, they don't but there is still 2 weeks for them to reveal any bundle plans.

I don't think rockstar is deliberately undermining msoft. GTA is hot $hit and msoft worked a deal for DLC and sony worked a deal for something else. It appears to be a bundle so...whooopdidooo

[Expy]

Apparently it is an exclusive bundle license. And I'm not talking about Costco-type bundles.

[jkhan]

Has anyone else noticed Microsoft has just gone quite on GTA4 end. I mean they were screaming there throats off last year that the complete experience is on the 360, but like since the last month, especially after GDC they have just gone silent. May be they realized its not the system seller for xbox360 and may be they are looking forward to Gears and Fable to become there system seller. So many conspiracy theories:P

[Atomic]

Microsoft got the taste of their own medicine , they wanted to screw over the PS3 owners with their anti-consumer and unethical bribe , now karma is bitting them in the a$$

[IntelligentAj]

If it's exclusive then it's definitely a blow to MS in spite of everything they've done. But they don't have to steal anything away from Sony. They need to press their base to buy the game which will suit them just fine.

[Carbon]

M$ screwed themselves, they did what they always do, threw truckloads of money around hoping they could buy their sucess. Next they will be forcing Rockstar to submit (Sell) themselves to M$. Because thats what they do best, buy out the competition.

And the reason why M$ is so quiet is because the bread and butter of M$ AKA Vista is in turmoil. Their spending their immediate recourses on salvaging that and trying to buy out Yahoo, since they can't compete with Google.

[Carbon]

HOW ABOUT GRAND THEFT AUTO EVERY YEAR BE BASED OFF A DIFFERENT CITY IN THE US. GTA SEATTLE, GTA N.Y, GTA, D.C ECT. AND THEN GO OVERSEAS. GTA HONG KONG, THAILAND ETC....

[Trick Nolte]

IF EA gets their hands on Take Two that just might happen. Hope not though, great games take more than a year to make. GTA is not Madden.

[dan-boy]

can and would take-two(who are the publisher, not rockstar!) stop microsoft from saying to retailers "bundle gta with a 360 for x amount"?????????? i don't think so somehow! it would be up to microsoft how much they want to lose on each sale to give a game with the console! take-two will still earn the same with every game that sells, regardless if it's on it's own, or bundled with a console!

to think otherwise seems naive and a bit stupid imo!

[whoelse]

I think we have to wait at least a week after the launch before we can properly judge Microsoft on their push for GTA.

Though i think maybe MS feel the more they advertise GTA, the more they are hurting themselves by pushing even more PS2 owners to buying into the PS3 for that experience.

[Glad to be a gamer]

Its Rockstar are screwing Ms by making an exc Gta bundle to the Ps3. Make up your'e mind people it looks like what ever happens with this bundle Ms can't win. Typical of this site evn though Ms are getting the better version with dlc its some how been turned around to be Sony win due to increased hardware sales due to a "supposed exc bundle"

Ill bet a large wad of cash that both consoles will have bundles for this game whether it be official or unofficial. Its the biggest game release of the year do you really think either company are not gonna cash in on the opportunity.

As for Gta4 selling better due to it being viewed synonomous with the Ps franchise i think is very short sighted. If you look at the sales for Dmc4(1.09=ps3, 0.9=360)on both consoles i think it shows that everyone already knows that you can get Ps exc on the 360.

But why am i posting this the point of this site isn't to have discussions based in reality. its there to find articles and post comments that make the 360 look bad and the ps3 look good. I was suprised when that 360 has the superior version article got approved must be an exception to the genreal trend.

[dan-boy]

i remember reading the microsoft were desperate for doing a gta bundle, now sony are potentially doing one it's all well and good. this site really is the dish the dirt on the 360 site.

the average joe wont think it's a playstation game, they will just see that it's on both systems and like you said, they will continue to see that once playstation exclusives are available on both systems now!

[gaffyh]

Wow the PS3+GTA4 is more worth buying in Australia than the Premium or Elite, only the Arcade version is cheaper and no one wants one of them anyway.

[Tomdc]

A Big LOL at Microsoft from me!!!

[Feihc Retsam]

Even if you bought anew Xbox360 and GTAIV outright, it will cost you less than buying a PS3...

They are counting on the consumer being cheap, and if that's the case, the Xbox360 is still cheaper...

And if a large number of those people knwo about the exclusive future content for the XBOX 360 version, I find it hard to believe a PS3 bundle is going to be a deal breaker.

We'll have to watch and see... It's hard for me to speculate on how the general public will respond... I would have never guessed that the Wii would do as well as it has... People are unpredictable, so let's wit and watch.

[yesah]

"make up your mind people".....right, so two completely different people post two different articles and you get annoyed? or do you think everyone else on N4G except you is the same person? If you dont want to read an article. Dont.

[Breakfast]

lol...at the pic. haha thats awesome.

[MikeGdaGod]

yeah that pic is funny

i'm glad to see sony throw a couple of punches. they've been on the fence for a while and i'm happy to see they've seem to get their mojo back.

between this and that gunmetal PS3, they're trying to hit the ball out the park.

[jwatt]

I agree, I think for a while M$ has been more agressive saying things like Madden will run better on thier system and they will own GTA4's Launch. I think lately Sony has been pulling off some smart moves by releasing GT prologue, DS3, MGS beta and a psn store update all before the release of GTA4.

[INehalemEXI]

2 things come to mind. Hot coffee and Hot Pocket LMAO.

[GutZ31]

If you like that pic, check this one out.

[Trick Nolte]

I bet she can eat ALOT of Energon Cubes!

[MikeGdaGod]

we've all been saying "where are the games?" and now its about to be crazy. my list goes as follows:

next week - MGS4 Online Beta, GT5P, Operation: Broken Mirror, and whatever else they have planned.
April 29 - GTA4
May 15 - Bionic Commando Rearmed (oldie but goodie)
May 20 - Haze (maybe.......)
June 2- Civilization Revolution (the one PC game i really really liked)
June 12 - MGS4 (you guys won't see me till its flipped)

and who knows what surprises we'll see in the time in between those releases. i'm already in the Home Beta, so i'm hoping they'll start adding the final touches (trophy room, in-game XMB, uploading video, ect.) and letting more people in. i'm really interested to see what everyone thinks about it.

i've been thinking about getting another 360, but with so many good game coming on PS3 i don't think i'd have the time (or money) for everything. now add the fact the the gunmetal PS3 is coming and i'm thinking of buying it for my bedroom tv.

sony has done good of late. i think they've really turned a corner.

EDIT: @GutZ31......

YIKES!!! who is that theMart's gf?!?!...............jk

i think i see her red rings of death :0

EDIT 2: why can't i uploads pics? i haven't been able to since the newer site launched.

[Bathyj]

2.4

Yuck, the Red Ring Of Death is her underpants.

[toughNAME]

That an Australian gaming website is saying someone else is screwed.

...I think that's it for now, it's late

[Breakfast]

lol ...you're gonna wake up to alot of disagrees.

[wageslave]

You know, it is strange, there is a lot of anti-MSFT trolling from this site.

[MikeGdaGod]

speaking of trolling.........*looks at wageslave*

[TheExecutive]

lol remember last year on this site? I sure do, its funny.

[Condoleezza Rice]

wouldn't it be something though if the bundle was Exclusive?that would hurt Xbox sales,at least in Europe.

[FLOPbox 360]

Microwave tried... you can give them that. They just aren't Sony(though they wish)

[Sev]

I wonder if sony paid for this bundle deal, and if so how much?

If they did its certainly a slap in the face to MS.

Its a great way to promote GTA4 on the PS3.

[wageslave]

Sony cant give away a 3rd Party Title and not pay for it.

If there is a GTAIV Bundle, I'll be suprised. That said, I dont see giving away the 2 most anticipated PS3 titles in bundles from a position of strength.

Sure, its good for the user, but Sony isnt doing this becuase they are -confident- in their position, they are doing it to catch up that +8 Million console defecit.

[-EvoAnubis-]

"they are doing it to catch up that +8 Million console deficit."

Very true. And it's going to work.

[Sev]

You watch how fast that 8 million console deficit goes away.
GTA4, and MGS4 alone have some serious console moving power.

To us gamers DTS-MA isnt a huge deal, but you should see the AV crowd over this coming update. I swear its like the second coming of christ...
Some people on AVS are touting the PS3 as the best consumer electronic EVER.
Link - http://www.avsforum.com/avs...

The PS3 isnt a one trick pony.
Future-proof FTW

[PopEmUp]

was the defected one

[tweaker]

Nice one Sev. I can't believe there are that much audiophiles out there.

[Warbletot]

@SEV - Wow... The Audiophiles are going nuts for the PS3! Lot of love for this device at the moment.

[akaFullMetal]

I agree, and also wouldn't rockstar want to make the install base of the ps3 to be bigger since they have future ps3 exclusives from them , so they would want a bigger user base to make more sales, of course they will want to have more sales so they will support the most the one that will make them money in the future.

[MikeGdaGod]

that's true akaFullMetal. i hadn't even thought of that until now.

[FLOPbox 360]

So are we stil pretending the PS3 is 8 million behind??? It's not. Not even close. PS3 is getting somewhere around the 5-6 million range and closing in fast.

[RacingX]

I'm sure they did, just like they'll probably do with MGS4, they'll cut a deal to buy say 500K copies (maybe more??)for worldwide distribution, they tell the publisher that they'll waive royalty fees for production of those copies, buy them from said publisher at discounted price but still a profit for publisher because there were no royalty fees and throw them into the box for a bundle (literally)I wouldn't be surprised either if the GTAIV commercials end with the PS3 logo only, so when average Joe sees the commercial with only the PS3 logo at the end he goes to store and sees the bundle displayed prominently in the aisle, grabs one and checks out. Done deal.

[PimpHandHappy]

i will read this after this comment

Rockstar did not and can not screw over MS

MS has done a fine job of that themselfs with bringing out the most faulty consumer eltronic in the history of such things!

ok let me read this

btw

Sony FTW

[SlappingOysters]

i just love this fu@kin post man - it just makes me laugh. It is liking he is rubbing his hands together and getting geed up for a bit of flame warage - bubble

[DailyAddict]

Arguably, the guy that wrote this argument has a very valid point, at least in his market where the bundle looks to be in existence. Considering this is the first GTA with online play, there are going to be a LOT of people who won't even know about that side of the game, let alone care. Not to mention, the MAJORITY of GTA players never even finish the game (or even make it 50% through) because they are just having a crapload of fun running around and blowing stuff up. So, for the casual gamer that will be interested in GTA, I can definitely side with this gamer/editor in his market that the PS3 version's bundle will be huge.

People forget to step outside of their realm and look at the bigger picture. Just because you read sites and know a bit about the consoles doesn't mean you're the majority. In fact, we're the minority. There are more people that just walk in to a store and buy games all the time and don't read anything up on the game other than when it's coming out than there are people that invest time. Hardcore gamers are the minority and never will be the majority.

I guess if I was to provide one epic example of this, look at World of Warcraft with its over 10 million customers (? or more?) and only 4% of them according to Blizzard are hardcore (the people that beat endgame content before it comes out, know all about the Warcraft storyline, etc.). 96% of them are just casual gamers that probably didn't even know what Warcraft was before World of Warcraft came out.

[aaron5829]

Couldnt say better myself.

[SlappingOysters]

Ok, maybe not. But it was great to read your comment, after watching almost ever article on this site get misread and users attempt to turn everything into a flame war your post was profound

[Bathyj]

Yeah, nicely put.

I never really thought the bundle was that important til I read this article. It all makes perfect sense.

Who really cares about the DLC for Xbox. Xbox owners thats who. They're the only ones who care, and hardcore gamers are the only ones who even know about it.

The bundle isn't targeting the hardcore. Obviously we already have consoles. Most will get the version for the one console they have, those of us lucky enough to have both will choose our favourite but 99% of the world population dont have either and thats who the bundle is aiming for.

So Joe Noconsole goes into their local bestbuy thinking Man I want GTA, its time to buy a console. And there a PS3 with GTA Budled in, the graphics printed on the box like they belong together for the cost of an elite. What he said about buying the lesser version of xbox is true too. Its not worth it.

All fanboyism aside, PS3 has all the good press lately. Put a PS3 with GTA next to an Elite with GTA for around the same price and which one would Joe buy? Factor in all the talk about a 33% failure rate for XB, meanwhile PS3 has had about 33 fail all together. Plus a new console owner has to be thinking what other game do I want. Whats the last good game out on Xbox, I cant even remember. I havent bought one since Mass Effect. and what coming out soon? Again, I'm not even sure, probably Gears 2 for me.

Meanwhile if you want to play GT5P, GTA4 with MGS4, Haze, Home and more just around the corner, one could say a new comer doesn't even have a choice. Its like a foregone conclusion.

Anyway, as far as who will sell the most games, probably it will be fairly even. Thos with XB will get XB, PS3 will get PS3, those with both will go 50 50 too, so XB migh sell more games. Who will sell the most consoles because of this game which is the bigger picture will be PS3 I think buy a bit. Hey to me some games belong on certain consoles and alot of people see it like that. Splinter Cell will always be Xbox, Metal Gear will always be Playstation and so will GTA.

[ColdWinter]

on the part about this being the first GTA to have online play. I have GTA san andreas for the PC and it had online play

[Official General]

You seem like a guy who knows what he's talking about. It's funny because I have a friend who has both a 360 and a PS3 and I told him about episodic DLC on the 360 version of GTA 4. He had no idea that it even existed for the 360. He was kinda interested, but not very much so as you'd expect. It seems like he's still getting the PS3 version anyway. I live in London (UK) and from what I see and hear, I dont really believe very many gamers here (both hardcore and casual) actually know about this exclusive DLC.

By the way, why are all the 360 guys on here crying tears and acting like they have really hurt feelings because they see alot of anti-360 comments posted on this site? You dont need to moan, wow. If you dont like it, then dont read it, it's that simple! Damn you all need to hug each other and get some paper tissue to wipe your tears, you very sensitive bunch of 360 fanatics. You all know your names.

[TruthBTold]

Nice posting! You described how a lot of people actaually are. I only played GT3 on PS2 but from what I can remember never beat it but still loved the game for just goofing off, same with san andreas, got bored of the missions.

[aaron5829]

Kicked in the balls if you ask me...

[Sevir04]

this is the shocker for me i mean i heard that sony was going to do it but i honestly thought the way MS was so hyped about GTA and even claiming it as their Multiplatform title and all i would have thought they were gonna be the ones to secure a bundle and by the looks of it extremely exclusive as well. Sony really did it with this one i mean really the MGS4 bundle is in all major regions and the GT5 bundle is making a killing right now and they secured something for GTA in the UK/EU if Sony knows what they are doing offering a US bundle will be the thing that literally shifts the tides and puts them on track for a very very strong sell through.

but we'll see we have 2 weeks before the the US launch we should here by next week.

[kingOVsticks]

whats not rude about gta!? but seriously the us hasn't seen a new bundle since the premier of the 40gb while japan had 2 different ones and EU had like 4-5 a GTA 4 bundle should really come state side :P

[nomad117]

This game is going to rock!

[kingOVsticks]

Microsoft doesn't really need Rockstar to screw them over, they're doing pretty good doing it to themselves. 360 a yr early,rechargeable batteries,50 online,lost japan...again,no built in HD DVD,DVD9,going for the same demographic,DLC is not the future, etc:)

[NightVyper]

I think DLC (I assume you are talking DLC in terms of movies and games) has it place and i can see taking a big market hold but not for many years to come... maybe 10 or so the web is not ready yet. I do however think it will not replace hard media i am 27 and pretty tech savvy and I wont give up hard media because hard drives fail and information corrupts.

ON TOPIC
I also think for this bundle to have a major impact they need to bring it to The US.

[PimpHandHappy]

and this is good

Make no mistake; this play by Sony is the most explosive strike yet in the ongoing war between the two console makers.

this will be the check mate move in the EU!

[Black_Jack]

damn right, i can see casual gamers in the uk getting this bundle + gt5 prologue. GTA and GT are massive in the uk, with this bundle and prologue i can see may sales for the ps3 being huge.

[Strife Lives]

When I bought my second ps2, I bought a bundle ! i went to the counter, pickd up the ps2 box. Went to the game counter.picked up GTA 3. walked to pay for it.laid them on top of each other. Paid for it. Went home and enjoyed the game ! Bundles are kinda pointless.only stupid people would rely on bundles to buy games + consoles on the same day lol. If their that lazy,their probably fat they should just buy a wii bundle with wii fit and lose some weight.

[mccomber]

Are you saying at this point if you lived where the bundle was coming out, and wanted a PS3 and GTA IV, that you would rather buy them separately at a higher price just because bundles are for, as you state, stupid and lazy people? Or do you have some other more logical argument against bundling a game and console?

[SlappingOysters]

check mate, bit@h

[DARK WITNESS]

i have to say,

i am not in the habit of slagging people off and i don't mean this in a bad way, but....

That has to be the most economically backward statement i have read in a while.

The logic behind the bundle is simple; why pay more for said product when you can get the same product cheaper.

???????

[whitesky]

lmfao

o\/\/nz(+)r3d

[TruthBTold]

bubbles, exactly, this bundle is made to save consumers money. Instead of paying 400.00 for the ps3 and 60.00 for the game they pay 400.00 for the game and the console.

[jkhan]

Actually PS3 is 678 Aussie Dollars at JB HiFi :D Plus I think they are giving away at fairly cheaper price then anyother retailers. I got Halo 3 Limited edition for 100$ while ebgames was selling the normal version for 100$;) Not advertising just telling people who don't know. Anyways back on the topic. This guy has a legit point. Everyone will see at the end of the day GTA4 as software will sell more on the 360 but it won't help them in selling the 360. People who have a 360 will buy the 360 version. But people who don't own a nextgen console will buy a ps3 to play gta4.

[tatotiburon]

mmmm another post bashing MS with GTAIV...panic?

[Black_Jack]

well dont cry about mate, you are getting the "superior" version arnt you? oh but compared to all these anti m$ articles i suppose that doesn't mean sh!t anymore right? stop whining about the news of this bundle and be happy you even have gta on the 360.

[phalanges]

they would also have an exclusive deal in NA, as it's the biggest market, well bigger then Australia.

[Booyah]

Yeah but ain't NA the "Xbox Land" ? It would be hard for Sony like it was hard for MS in Jap, no ?

[xhi4]

i mean, it may, but the game won't be free.

You have to look at it from Sony's point of view, they are trying to get all the ps2 owners who basically bought a ps2 for GTA and who are waiting to buy a next gen console for GTA to head towards the PS3, thats a sh1tload of people.

So they can do that for Europe and get a crap load of them to move hardware.

But, to do the same in America would be a very tough feat, financially that is. Because that would mean they would lose 60 or so dollars (probably more) on every ps3 sold. But then again, they'd make a pack load from the mass demand, and move hardware.

So finally, they may choose to bring the bundle to the US, would be a very good idea in my oppionon, but costs and risk may prevent them from doing so.

2 and a bit weeks to go, geuss we'll just have to wait and see.

But yer big blow to Msoft, poor guys.

[phalanges]

Once a person has a PS3, they'll buy other games (hopefully), it wont just be for GTA4 and that's it. Sacrifice a little to gain a lot.

[Raspinudo]

this website needs to quit sucking the MS D. What a bunch of /b/tards. Its a business, learn that and deal with it. Sony is making a good business decision.

[poos3]

hahahahah this sony tard site are trying to clim a ps3 budle which the only effect will be is getting gta 4 sales close to the 360 will be a bigger story than dlc ull notice how this story is bigger than 360 dlc news on this crap site ps3 trolls try harder when 29 comes u guys are se t to cry sony had to reduce its price twice in 1 yesr to compete with 360 last year this yuear we get dlc prepare for microsoft to release info on kip.s gamebunbdles are not news and do nothing for console sales the gta conole is 360 it has 2 episodic contetns as bigg as vice city

[ForTheFallen]

knows what your saying.

[Sir Ken Kutaragi 4]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!! ;-D

[harv052]

poos3...You should consider using punctuation. This is really annoying...

[BrianC6234]

I wonder how much that guy was paid by Microsoft to write that ad? I bet they promised him one of those payola GTAIV 360s at least.

[BrianC6234]

poos3 stinky. So stinky I can't read its post. I think it said the PS3 version of GTAIV will be so awesome Microsoft will get out of gaming.

[Amp]

seiously, spell check

[Alcohog]

I see Poo is a really intelligent poster.

[DevonTheDude535]

Microsoft has been unforthcoming about the bonuses they are including with GTA 4 on 360, they are digging their own grave not advertising these three reasons to buy on 360 (I'm personally buying on PS3).

1. DLC (obvious)
2. Free Month of Live Gold (confirmed by Gamestop)
3. 800 Free Live Marketplace points (confirmed by Kotaku)

why they aren't marketing this is anyones guess

[Harry190]

sure are heating up.

[vilmer]

I've never read any of this sites articles in the past until now. It's quite obvious they have a heavy microsoft bias that's for sure. His wording sounds like someone who feels threatened. The PS3 deserves some love after all of the net FUD that's been around for far too long. 360 had it's time to shine.

[SlappingOysters]

This article http://www.n4g.com/NewsPend...
has everyone calling the site PS3 bias.

You dudes need to start realising that these sites are supposed to write articles about the consoles, it doesn't make them fanboys one way or the other.

[sandip787]

this is actually hilarious. MS payed all that money to sweeten up R*. yet rockstar have taken all that money and in the end, it could end up helping sony more. oh the gaming industry makes me smile some times :D

[Expy]

The funny thing is that the DLC isn't anywhere to be seen, and won't be for another few months.

[Danja]

well Sony made The GTA franchise what it is today...this is R* way of sayin they're still loyal..even though there helping both sides this time around....

Plus Sony agreed to let GTA4 be multi-plat..in return they would get future exclusives from R*.....

I know a few friends who will be buying a PS3 for GTA4....even if there isn't a bundle..

[v1c1ous]

so many misinformed comments in that statement D:

sony made rockstar? no, rockstar got to where they are themselves. sony just provided the medium, R* was the one making the content.

sony agreed to let GTA4 go multiplatform? sony doesn't have say in anything take-two or R* do. that's what being a "third party" means.

trust me, no company would ever agree to "share" such a huge series.

[Danja]

dude where in my post did I state "Sony Made Rockstar'.....if it wasn't for the PS2 + GTA3 the GTA franchise surely wouldn't be as popular as it is now...so yeh R*...helped move alot of PS2 hardware and....Sony made R*..into a Powerhouse Publisher....plz read to understand..and not pick apart pplz comment to suite ur needs...

and yes I read that R* approached Sony about GTA4 exclusivity..and Sony agreed to let it go Multi plat..in return....they would acquire future R* exclusives.....and we all know..GTA5 will be times exclusive just like how it was back in the day.......2 bad you picked the wrong side.

[Noah]

the reason why this PS3 is getting the bundle is because Sony & R* have a good relationship. Unlike M$ which they had to fork down 50 Mil. in order for them to get the game the same time as Sony.
(those 50 mil. weren't only for EXCLUSIVE downloadable content)

[Skaterboy Tell Em]

Ive been saying that for the longest. MS payed 50 million for GTA to even show up on xbox because it was going to be a ps3 exclusive,then they got some DLC with the deal also.

[joydestroy]

wow. it's going to be an interesting time around april 29th, that's for sure.

[sandip787]

look at how many developers sony have helped nurture and become great. it takes time. MS and EA are so similar, they both buy and hope. they have had success with it, ie GoW and Halo, but the games reflect it - fast paced, flashy, in you're face. whereas you see games like shadow of the collossus, and it literally takes you're breath away and leaves you talking about for years after, when you're discussing the best games to have been created.

[LastDance]

A whole heartidy agree on that statement.

Timeless games.

[Booyah]

That was well said.

[Black_Jack]

SSSSSERIOUS!

[PLiPhaze]

I wonder how many ppl got that

[sandip787]

haha my god, first time anyone on N4G knows what boy better know is :D

bubbles to both of you :D

[Bladestar]

All microsoft has to do to spoil Sony's party is make the DLC available the day the game is released and/or make the game cheaper... and let the people know... as it is.. it's already a win win situation for microsoft and the xbox.... wasn't GTA an exaclusive Playstation game? well... no longer do anyone need to buy a Playstation to play this game.... same with DMC... same with Ace Combat.... and same with every other game that used to be exclusive to only playstation.... so, it's a win win situation for microsoft...
I don't think microsoft needs to create a bundle just for this game.... they didn't create a bundle for Halo nor Gears that are bigger games for the xbox brand.... let's also not forget that this game is rated M.... and also a hardcore game.... translation.. anyone buying this game probably have a PS3 or xbox 360... since when is GTA a console seller? Metal Gear sells moves consoles, Gears, Halo, Final Fantasy, Mario, Metroid move consoles.... GTA... specially now that it's not exclusive... does not move consoles... I hear people saying.. Iwill buy a PS3 when Metal Gear comes out... I don't hear people saying; I will wait until GTA comes out to buy a PS3 or xbox 360... Microsoft should focus on dropping the price of the xbox 360 in the US and let people create their own bundle with the game they pick.

[Danja]

lets see.....DMC4 sold more on the PS3 even with a smaller install base..which means ppl still associate this game with the PS3...

Ace Combat..is coming to the PS3...Huge flop in Japan....sure the next game will be PS3 exclusive

GTA4....is still associated with the PS brand....and this bundle will prove my point right to the casual crowd......

and M$ has no control over when the DLC is released....I doubt R* has even started working on that yet.....either pray ur 360can last for the entire game....

[Whoooop]

you just explained with different arguments exactly why the PS3 bundle will make more of an impact than 360's DLC.

:)

[mccomber]

You used up all the periods! Now we have to end all our sentences with other forms of punctuation — are you happy now?

[gEnKiE]

I don't think this "downloadable content" is going to be as big a deal as M$ wants it to be when GTA4 is released... With this bundle coming out, I think its going to do pretty dam well. Now I don't think its going to outsell the 360 version, but I don't think the PS3 version is going to be that far behind the 360's GTA in terms of sales..... It will be interesting but who cares really, GTA4 is almost here!!

[funkysolo]

GTA didn't become a big deal until M$ paid 50 million for DLC content. GTA to me is just a game that is coming during the drought and people are hyping it more than what it really is, but I'll hold of judgement til I play it. GTA will sell alot of copies but I don't see it moving consoles the way people think.

[Ri0tSquad]

"All microsoft has to do to spoil Sony's party is make the DLC available the day the game is released and/or make the game cheaper"

That won't happen. No matter how much money Microsoft gives Rockstar.

"wasn't GTA an exaclusive Playstation game?"

No, GTA3, Vice City, and San Andreas have all came to Xbox 1 quite some time ago. GTA series was timed exclusive on Playstation.

"GTA... specially now that it's not exclusive... does not move consoles"

This bundle is perfect reason for PS2 owners to go to PS3. It'll definitely move PS3s.

"Microsoft should focus on dropping the price of the xbox 360 in the US and let people create their own bundle with the game they pick."

I'm willing to bet that they will do that before GTA4 drops.

[7tH_iLLMaTiKz]

Whatcha got in yo head?....I'm guesin nuthin...

[PimpHandHappy]

have you ever put this thought through your head

Sony has a metric ton of well known exclusives on the back burner? What exclusives have they added in the 1st year you might want to ask yourself?

Now look at the list of 360 exclusives. Have you got it list yet? I think you have because its short! Now what will happen if lets say Sony with a bigger install base takes 3exclusives like Bio Shock Mass Effect and lets just say ummmmmmm Fable

i guess we wont get Halo and Gears but tell the truth we dont need Halo because we have the next Halo, RFOM.

where does this leave your list without those three! Where did losing Ace Combat GTA DMC hurt Sony? They didnt pay for those games because like you know Sony has said for years "We dont pay for exclusives"!

[Hydrolex]

Perfect movement.

Umm no body really cares about DLCs. Seriously, not everyone is like us, coming on these websites and get all news. People have life, some people even don't know what are GTA IV's DLCs. and even don't like to pay for it ????? Others thinks DLCs for a Game like GTA is a joke ???????

Only SUPER STupid fanboys like to pay for DLCs, and its coming after a while.

[Snukadaman]

That sony ponied up that 50 million..you and I both know you would be singing a different tune.

[Danja]

But Sony isn't M$ so they wouldn't go around bribing publishers for Exclusive content or Games...

either way it's funny you bots were praising M$ move to acquire DLC....now that you realize that GTA4 DLC carries no weight in the Console war..ur now saying "What If"..

Fact of the matter is PS3 owners could care less about DLC....MGS4 is right after GTA4.....plus Haze will satisfy my FPS & MP needs....

[C_SoL]

Xbots don't know whats comin......

[Snukadaman]

You mean you dont think sony paid for haze too be exclusive...seriously...I mean...do you announce a game for both consoles...and cancel it on the console that will sell the most on a multi platform game...you cant honestly be that naive....and considering NO one knows what this dlc consists of, how can anyone downplay it or even praise it?

[captainjy]

That is exactly the point. Most of the masses of serious gamers have already made their choice and aren't sitting around with their thumbs up their asses, waiting for GTA 4. I honestly do not believe that GTA will push consoles on either side regardless of what MS or Phony are offering. I do however ojectively believe that GTA 4 on the 360 will offer the best experience for the serious gamers and will outsell the POS3 two to one, easily.

[potenquatro]

i'm not a stupid fanboy.i've paid for dlc if it's worth it.credit card number is stored in ur account,all u have to do is press a boton.i feel sony fans should embrace dlc,because sony is going to have to do it eventually too.and with steam taking over the ut series,wow,achievements on gfw and steam,who knows were pc gaming is headed with microtransactions becoming more of a solution than a problem(imo i'm no expert).

@dnja
sony bribes publishers and developers too.it's a corporation thing,not a sony or ms thing.for the ps1 sony bribed midway for mk3 timed exclusivity,bribed capcom to make a version of sf vs x-men no matter how crippled it turned out to be.bribed namco to team up and slow down sega's arcade and port stronghold,a move that benefited sony alot more than namco.did u know gta3 and its following expansions were suppose to be exclusive to dreamcast?sony paid ALOT of money for it to go to the ps2.i remember them saying that the console debut of a great pc clasic should be in a "fertile console" not a "perishing console".sony and nintendo can and would be as filthy as ms given the chance.

[BrianC6234]

What nobody cares about is DLC that they'll have to pay for and won't even know what it is they're getting. Has anything been announced regarding that 360 DLC? I haven't heard a thing. To me that means it isn't much. Micro$oft wants to fool gamers into buying the crappy version of the game just to get some mediocre DLC. No thanks. I'd rather play GTAIV on the PS3. Then I can play as long as I want. My PS3 isn't going to die on me three days into GTAIV.

[beans]

I don't believe Rockstar screwed MS at all and actually gave them some nice added features! Bottomline is that both versions will be fun and nows a good time to buy either or both consoles if you haven't already!

[meepmoopmeep]

this will be an interesting next few weeks until GTA4 releases to see what both Sony and MS are going to do to try and sway consumers.

[Whoooop]

wow... This bundle just cr*pped on 360's DLC.

They nailed casual gamers with this bundle. MS thought that DLC would be the factor when in reality only 360 fanatics(most of them on N4G) are the only ones who know about this.

Most casuals won't even know what DLC is or how to get it.

This BIG game was MS's last hope this year to try and keep up with PS3's line up.

When you think about it, it's just a no brainer when you have a bundle of GTA4 and a console which will get the best exclusives soon after... MGS4, HAZE, KZ2, Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2, LBP, Uncharted 2, etc....

Seriously... you have to be crazy "NOT" to choose this bundle if you don't have a next gen console yet.

[Meus Renaissance]

The real one screwed is me: I'm broke and dont know how to get the money for this game :(

[gEnKiE]

Ya, same here.... I just laid out all my money on the preorder for the MGS4 LE edition. I will have to start saving my pennies for this game.....

[Whoooop]

ask relatives if you can cut their grass or wash their cars.... in exchange of money of course.

3 cars at $20 a pop and one grass cut, you can get GTA4, chips and a slurpee.

It's an option

:)

[Meus Renaissance]

You should see my phone bill, $500

[joydestroy]

ask all your relatives and your neighborhood. that should cover it.

[DARK WITNESS]

on a flip note i may be getting 3 copies....

don't ask what i am doing with them.

[Fighter]

MS will get the exclusive content at the end and the North American sales will be better than PS3's.

Worldwide is another issue. PS3 will sell more hardware and software worldwide and the bundle will definitely help them. If it comes to North America then the PS3 will dominate for a long time unless MS has something up their sleeves.

It will be the top selling game for the PS3 worldwide (not too sure about Japan)and the top selling game for the 360 worldwide (including Japan for the 360 only) so in the end everyone is happy.

[Fighter]

I just noticed the "Hot Coffee" picture on this page.

[gamesR4fun]

now that we know what the better deal really is you ready to come to dark side?
Common buy a ps3 and get gta4 free! Let the other chumps pay for dlc and second class online.

[Lets-Game]

Silently and patiently sony does their thing. While MS makes unnecessary noise all the time which after a short while proves to be just noise, thus making those believers look like fools.
oh well everyone got their own way of doing business.

[Danja]

lol....either way seems that this GTA4 bundle has a few ppl worried.....

[PSh1t3]

360 wins again.

[GutZ31]

Your win, kind sir.

[PMR_21]

L
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[Aleusia]

She's cute, too bad she's a 360 fangirl..I hope she dies just for having that headset on and that controller in her hand. Xbox fanboys and girls are human beings which I deem unfit for their lives.\

Justice = death

[CrazedFiend]

Is that...MEGATRON?!?!

[PlayStation360]

Looks more like MEGATON.

[t-0_ot-]

Is that your girl? =] JustKiddin

And what's wrong with a big chick? "Riding" a big chick is like riding a scooter.. it's fun, but you don't want anyone to see or know that you did it. =D

[GutZ31]

t-0_ot-:
"And what's wrong with a big chick? "Riding" a big chick is like riding a scooter.. it's fun, but you don't want anyone to see or know that you did it. =D"

I think I threw up a little in my mouth.

[gamesR4fun]

Man what a sexy beast.

[BrianC6234]

You're right. The 360 wins again. What did it win? The lousy customer service award. Congrats to Micro$oft.

[FLOPbox 360]

That's right kiddies, I WIN!!! MUAH-HA HA!!

Wait what is it I win??? Besides 6th place in worldwide sales every week??

Hmmmmmmm....

[cmrbe]

You read the article?

[Rocko]

Does anyone REALLY believe a GTA bundle is gonna win the console war?

EDIT: Well, thats what the author is this retarded article thinks.

[-EvoAnubis-]

By itself? Of course not. Will it help? You better believe it.

[power of Green]

These theories about this game are just as comical as 2008 politics.

Just a post saying what PS3 fanboys wan't to hear and is a revenge post. As if Rockstar isn't going to try and make billions on the game, they'll do whatever it takes to sell many copies of the game. PS3 fanboys are misstaken if they think RockStar caters to PS3 fanboy feelings. lol.

All these nervous theories are getting out of hand.

If I were a PS3 fanboy I'd be more worried why there isn't word of MSFT plans more than simply *beating the Sony has done it drum*(could be coming out with a bundle, GTA4 360 or both, US price drop).

LOL we just seen a thread posted today with MSFT basically saying they're going to go all out soon! and PS3 fanboys find this to comfort themselfs lol.

[gambare]

lol fanboy

[captainjy]

Power of Green, as much as I am on your side, a GTA bundle would be huge for Phony, but we all know that there are more 360's out there and it will completely outsell the POS3 version, hands down. We get DLC, they don't. We have a real gaming console, they have popcorn and HD movies. MS is just too big and too rich to be beat.

[THC CELL]

if u think sony are worried dont u think they would of useds a better idea ? paying rockstar to make better contents ?

Sony are not worried at all
Its x box in fear paying millions for ads DLC
at end of the day there doing sony a fav- When people see GTA they see PS2/3 So i will thank M$ for helping sony

POG by the way U Fail Enjoy the game at end of the day u are lucky u have this game
I bet rockstar are callin M$ Muppets in there office with there mega Check lol

Sony wont fail 2008
nor this game or metal gear solid and blu ray and more
PSN will take over with home and All u will be defending is ur tampon box

[ForTheFallen]

Anyone who follows politics knows its all bullsh*t. Enjoy it. But if you want to draw that line, here it is.

The fight between 360 and PS3 is like that of Hiliary and Obama.
Hiliary had a massive lead over Obama in the beginning but now the lead is shortening with each day because news comes out of yet another f'up or lie she commits. This, in turn, makes Obama look better, as a newer figure and a more commited person. He may have his fair share of scandals, but he's obviously the better choice then some old hag who'd been in the senate too long.

[juuken]

Hey, the press called.
They said you're a moron.

M$ has made one of the worst marketing strategies in history. That's why you don't mess with Sony. THAT'S WHY SONY DOWNPLAYED THE CONTENT! They had something up their sleeve!

[Hydrolex]

fixed lol

Don't just throw words you silly fanboy. Come up with something

[power of Green]

GTA4 is the biggest event of this generation just like HAlo 3 we'll see GTA4 soda, Bundles, limited edition consoles, GUM, Toilet paper , condoms, forgot how much money MSFT said they're going to spend to advertise this but its alot.

Theres going to be parties, events blah blah blah.

[Gaara_724]

do u honistly think GTA4 will be the biggest event of this generation waw stupid stupid boy like ALWAYS the 1st final fantasy will be (13 or vs 13)

[yanikins111]

I want what he's having.....

[SuperSaiyan4]

Isnt play.com doing one where you get gta 4 for free when you buy a premium?

All in all Microsoft have the upper hand with the DLC but a bundle where you get the game for free is very welcome for new buyers.

[CaliGamer]

But who other than the HC gamers do you think the average consumer will give a rats a$$ about DLC? When they see this bundle the abstract concept of DLC that will arrive months later at an extra cost will be a tough sell.

It will be interesting to see what takes place but I tend to agree with the assessment of this article that the bundle is a lot more appealing and a much better sell. Could be wrong tho.

[MOTO-X]

To above comment.. You get the game free with the bundle.. No extra cost..

Why are 360 owners bragging about These episode things.. Arnt they just lil Like Tv show things.. HAHA sounds pretty effin gay to me.. WOW so you get special DLC.. thats not gonna persaude people to buy your NON HD MOVIE CONSOLE.. ONE game isnt gonna sell 360 over PS3.. BLURAY is the reason consumers will buy PS3 and GTA will be a bonus.. Who HONESTLY cares about webisodes or whatever they are calling em.. Both games are gonna take massive amounts of hours to complete.. Both games will get DLC.. Just because 360 gets a couple special things doesnt make it better.. IDIOTS.. 360 owners are like Raider fans.. NO logic in everything they say..

[Rocko]

So what do you have to say about Sony giving away GTA to sell consoles?

[xboxftw]

Well DLC for ps3 owners may not be anything since they are not used to it. I guess COD4 mappack wont be d/l as much then. What happned to Warhawk maps etc? So since its coming to 360, and just like rumble, it doesnt matter.

[ForTheFallen]

what's with people having terr'rible grammar?

[xboxftw]

I think i was half asleep when i wrote it. Thanks for pointing out the glaring grammatical mistakes.

BTW did you misspell "terrible" deliberately or because of your carelessness

[CaliGamer]

If what they say is true, you are basically getting GTA4 for free with the 40 gig PS3.

If this bundle deal is true, I think Sony opted for the more appealing option than the DLC. The end result will be interesting to see, I don't think MS will sit by and allow this to happen tho.

Overall very good deal for people who are waiting to pick up a PS3, I would opt for the MGS4 bundle however, but that is because I have a soft spot for Snake and convoluted stories. LOL.

This might just be Sony's year, and more so than we could have ever imagined. Can't wait for the imminent drama this will bring, got the popcorn ready. ROFL.

[etownone]

"I think Sony opted for the more appealing option than the DLC"

you cant be serious?

i'm assuming you already have your ps3, and the rest of us on this site have our 360/ps3, so what does this bundle do for you?
if your really a GTA fan and you dont have a 360, your going to be missing out.

[Booyah]

@etowone

Did u know that GTA IV appeals to "casual gamers" more ? While u get ur episode content... Ill be on MGS4 and/or NG2.

[lelik]

ps3 is getting dlc either way just not the same. seriously, only way the dlc will matter is if it adds a lot to online and no one knows just how good the gta online is.

[leon76]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!! !!!!!!!! Xbots, what the f*ck you expected?????? Ahahahahahahahahahah!!!!! Bye bye guys, YOU LOSE!!!!!
...and snukad@ss: "...You mean you dont think sony paid for haze too be exclusive...." - Shut up you dumbsh*t!!!!!!

[bioshock]

ps3 is offering much better deals to casual consumers...M$ is taking long to make its move unlike halo 3 launch.

[etownone]

unless there is a price drop right before the gta release.

putting the arcade at the casual mass market proven sweet spot, $199

[NightVyper]

@Edonus

I am pretty sure sony makes a profit with the 40 GB machines they have cut there cost in manufacturing 2 or three times with no price cut in sight. I also think people are making the assumption that these games are costing Sony 60 bucks but I would bet good money that they are getting at bulk rates. Best Buy and the like mark up games about 20 Bucks.

worst case scenario sony is making no profit and selling a lot of systems. Best case scenario they are selling and a lot of systems and turning a little profit.

But sony is a smart company they are in the business of making money I am sure there are tons of things we don't know about that could be making this possible

[yanikins111]

Link to a recent page saying sony are losing money on the hardware with this bundle?

[The Wood]

They have seen what sells consoles and have seen what bundles have done for game sales. It seems Sony thought ahead and were 1 step ahead of MS on this mini conflict. If the GTA brand going multiplatform was a trade off for some future loving from R* then this was a masterstroke on Sony's part. They took the hit now and thought of the future, damn you sony people, play chess much?

[NightVyper]

I think that is the difference between MS and Sony. Sony has thought a lot about there machine and where they are going and MS was so busy trying to be first they did not think about what happens after that.

[The Wood]

They will have big advertising boards and posters promoting the bundle and will probably get more money from selling a console unit over a standalone game so its a great push tactic from Sony. Their experience in the gaming industry is becoming more apparent everyday.

[anh_duong]

why has rockstar screwed ms?? isn't sony the one who tried to screwed ms here?? rockstar has got nothing to do with it. sony are giving gta4 away free with bundles - rockstar could hardly say no - could they?

[yanikins111]

Figures son?

[Coheno]

Why is this guy whining SOOOO much!? WTF? M$ fanboyarticle all the way! And why do people read this and take it seriously? Come on...

[JasonX43]

I know people love harping on the 360's great games library(that's filled with way too many FPS games for me!), but it's reliability does come into question when it comes to GTA. If I were in the middle of enjoying my favorite GTA activity(raising my wanted level and seeing how long I can run from the police with limited use of the cheat codes!), and my 360 RROD'd on me(for the 2nd time that would be!), I'd be furious! That's why I'm getting it for my PS3 instead!

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

There are more articles trying to spin away from the 360's DLC advantage than there are pro GTA4 PS3. The panic would be those trying desperatly to spin the attention away from so much positive GTA4 360 press.

[kevin1122]

sounds like a conspiracy theory to me, just like when you criticize sony fans for saying their is a bias on gaming websites. Ive been saying this all along, you are a hypocrite with the other trolls.

[HydroBoy]

lets get one thing straight, the ps3 version will sell the most in Europe, mark my words, in my area and mostly every where in london ppl are familiar with GTA as a playstation product, some ppl will even buy a ps3 just for it, in this case what they want is GTA, ''live'' wont matter or ''achievements'' ( an average customer dont give a poo about that), you guyz just watch as the numbers pile up. .

[Defectiv3_Detectiv3]

I don't see why MS is getting butt hurt now. They could never compete w/ Sony, but because Sony was just sitting back for the longest time people took that for weakness. Truth of the matter is, Sony doesn't need to waste money fighting a console war. They know they have the quality product. And they didn't have to sacrafice quality to beat MS to the market.

Now that they're moving away from PS2 developement(which still sells more than 360 or PS3), they are focusing all their attention on PS3 and beating 360 hands down.

Sony hasn't even pulled out any big guns and they're outselling 360. With titles like MGS4, GT4, Socom, Resistance 2, Killzone 2, Little Big Planet, White Knight Story, Infamous, Wardevil, etc. coming out this year alone they are finally delivering on the software side. Their future lineup puts Xbox to shame.

All early reviews point to PS3 as having a superior version of GTA4. The PS3 version has better graphics because you can tweak them yourself, it has more cpc's in the game, and it features splitscreen multi-player not on XBOX. Thanks to the mandatory install time of 8 min. the PS3 version also runs a lot smoother.

PS3 is projected to sell more units this year than any since launch. Same for Wii. 360 is on the wane and is projected to sell less units this year since launch. And if you think you're gonna see a price drop stateside before people are done spending their stimulus checks think again!!!

Not all consumers are sheep. Alot of them realize that Xbox doesn't offer a unique experience when you consider their best games are availabe for PC (GEARS, HALO, MASSEFFECT, BIOSHOCK). The PC versions offer more features, better graphics, and generally run better considering your setup.

Owning a gaming PC capable of running these games is not expensive as you might think. Plenty of articles on the web explain how. When you consider all the costs associated with owning a console its not that much of a stretch to spend 600-700$ to get a PC. But seriously, they have done tests where they have run CRYSIS on a 400$ rig.

[MrBii]

Hahaha remember a few months ago, fellow gamers?

Xbots: "FK NINTENDO, FK ACTIVISION. THEY RUINED US BY NOT RELEASING GOLDENEYE REMAKE!!"

(even though Goldeneye is a NINTENDO Franchise)

Today
Xbots: "FK ROCKSTAR, THEY SCREWED US!"

My my so it has come down to this. Deep down many xbots know they are losing this fight and seeing these sour grape responses it has become apparent how desperate they have become.

ROCKSTAR SCREWED MS? GOOD.
Here is a REALITY CHECK for you, xbots. The PSX and PS2 has FOUR KNOWN Horsemen that together propelled the PSX and PS2 into unchallengable heights.

GRAN THEFT AUTO is ONE OF THE HORSEMAN. SO WHY THE FK SHOULD THEY HELP YOU OUT. ITS A PS3 HORSEMAN. IT BECOMING MULTIPLATFORM IS A PURE BUSINESS MOVE and NOTHING ELSE. ITS STILL A PS3 HORSEMAN THAT REMEMBERS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF ITS FANBASE IS AT.

OWNED

They are not SUPPOSED to help you out. And they prefer the PS3. End of story. Awww are you crying now? pathetic little crybaby.

Xbots: "but but but MS paid 50 million!"

And? They paid 50 million so that GTA4 wasnt a PS3 timed exclusive. GTA4 being PS3 exclusive would absolutely KILL 360.

But it doesnt matter. The next horseman will deliver the deathblow in June. Hahaha.

[ps360s]

I think after Peter Moore left Microsoft have been losing its ground lately...Peter Moore was a good guy who aquired GTA4 to the system and from there he even aquired the DLC and even more Peter moore adviertised GTA4 but when he left, Microsoft does'nt seem to be doing much about GTA4 at all!

Oh well It's harder for me to choice which system to buy it for now...since the 360 has achievements but the ps3 will have HOME and most my cousins owns a Ps3! damn why make it so hard for people like me with both systems! lol

But hey the games is going to be heptic on both systems and I can't wait!

[Jamegohanssj5]

Hmm, owned? I think so.

The Genius has spoken.

[jones smokey]

is it just me or is that writer say that gta4 will be better on 360......dont be stupid just because ms paid for some extra download content that dont mean crap,.....i still play gta3 on ma ps2 with now online and multiplayer and the game thoes not seem to just die out...lol, gta4 does not need extra content,just by exploring the city and punching people for no reason is enough for me to even forget about the online, not to talk about some of thoes hard side mission,and the single player mission that took me like forever to finish,....i aledray got my ps3 so i dont care about the bundle or extra online content for 360, in fact if i did not have my ps3 now i would still by the bundle simply because i am use to holdin a playstation pad when playing gta, i dont care about the extra content.......u seem to b forgettin how big gta is, that game will have u just driving around listen to music in your car just doin nothing, blive me it took me like 3-4 months to finish the last gta just because i was having to much fun that i could not be bothred to do the missin, lol.....if ms think extra content is y most people are saying the 360 owns is better they must be having a laugh, i am not a fanboi,...i am just saying what i think is the fact, extra conten dont mean anything for people who have ps2 and want to by a net gen console,..when they here that ps3 online is free and u gotta pay for ms they will start having a doubt, gta4 will be great on both 360 and ps3, console sales will be a little be greater for the 360 because it is really cheap,but ps3 sales are also just gonna be just as good....anyway now one big game is finaly here i am now looking foward to mgs4/haze/killezone2/r2/geataw ay3/...e.t.c i love my ps3 =D but I AM NOT A FANBOI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[brothersimon]

What they mean is

360 is selling too much and ps3 isnt so they try to make ps3 sell more by doing this

[TheREALHarryEtTubMan]

haha that would make you happier,if it were true.

Unfortunately that another reason this is so big for PS3. PS3 is ALREADY outselling the 3fixme in every country all over the world HAHAHAHHAHAHAH FLOPbox.

Now there will be Exclusive GTA PS3 bundles hahahahah the biggest thing you can get to helo sale the game and consoles. Keep in mind PS3 was already going to sale more consoles. Listen to any analyst predictions. They have the PS3 SKUNKING the FLOPbox. Now its just going to be that much worse.

PS3 is making the 360 turn into the Dreamcast so fast is HILARIOUS.

Xbox 360 IS GETTING PWNED.

Sony is making Microsft look like little noobs. But Rockstar already said who they prefer and it wa Sony, not Microsft. Notice who's getting the HUGE MEGATON Rockstar Exclusives that will be announced at E3? Its gonna happen BOTS... Sony hasnt announced the PS3 Rockstar Exclusive yet. Sit back and watch your unwanted, worthless console get the pounding of its life.

PS3 is going to KILL the 3FIXME becuase of GTA.

[Madbrain]

ΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑΗΑ

[THC CELL]

I take u are a POGMART Fan

Grow up

We all no x box is a good system at failing
When u buy a x box u are Buying a Deathbox 360
Better pull out cause you are going to be b1tching to ur self one day i should of got gta for ps3 and Good old M$ will just be sat on ur money going
FOOLS lol

[t-0_ot-]

Sorry, but to tell him to grow up is stupid. You might as well tell EVERYONE to grow up. Didn't your mothers teach you to share? And, teach you manners?

Apparently not..

[thepope101]

Hahahahaha! Thats funny chit. Watch microsoft panic when they don't have the numbers to faze out the disgusting quality of there products.

You'll never take what is Playstions exclusive.

[Kaz Hirai]

I convinced my old friends at Rockstar to SCREW Nazisoft!
Evil laugh time:

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

[Sir Ken Kutaragi 4]

...King Kaz!!!!!!!!! ;)

GTA+PS3=THE BEST!!!;-P

[Citizen Cook]

... how Rockstar screwed M$?

Good news for Sony though, terrible for M$...

HA HA HA HA!

[dale1]

free online will help sonys cause big time on this game

[GameClearer]

what a bunch of babys, oh no sony are sellin a bundle. rockstar screwed microsoft ha ha suck sh!t it wont change much what a bunh of micro soft fanbois

[Naphthos]

to pay for an online service like Live. Oh, and the 360 has NO wi-fi. You've been burned.

[mariusmal]

flamebait.

/me puts his flamesuit on

[starbuck]

do people think other people are.
The amount of times Ive read the comment. The average person doesn't know about DLC.
Last time I checked GTA is really a hardcore gamers title if you want casual go play viva pinata or rub your hands together at Little big planet.
Most people buying GTA will be over 15 and have access to the net.
Now if they have access to the net whats the chance they will not look up GTA and if they do they will know all about DLC.
Now a days its really only parents buying for there child that will do the casual "impulse buy" and if a parent buys GTA for their child they need to look at their parental skills, but anyone wanting to get GTA would of done their research.
In the age of information we live in around (at a guess) 70/80% will look into a product online before they go and buy it.
Now Im not saying "this console" or "that console" will sell more as I don't know.
Same with which console will sell more copies of GTA Im saying most people wanting GTA will have done their research before hand and will know the ins and outs of each.

EDIT: just type Grand theft auto 4 into google and the first none official page is...
"Grand Theft Auto IV - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Article describing episodic content, controversy, and trivia."
notice the describing episodic content

[-EvoAnubis-]

You really think the majority of GTA gamers are hardcore? You don't see a game that has a huge, open world that allows you do do whatever you want as being the ultimate casual game?

I'm not even going to debate with you . . . looking at the sales numbers for the games since part 3 should just prove my point alone.

[starbuck]

Ok if Ive got the casual gamer part wrong then sorry but you have to admit GTA has a strong following and the majority of people buying it will of looked it up on the net.
Most people wanting the game would of pre-ordered it and in anticipation of the game would of been looking it up on the net. Hence they would know about the DLC.
You missed the whole point i was trying to make really

[-EvoAnubis-]

"Ok if Ive got the casual gamer part wrong then sorry but you have to admit GTA has a strong following and the majority of people buying it will of looked it up on the net.
Most people wanting the game would of pre-ordered it and in anticipation of the game would of been looking it up on the net. Hence they would know about the DLC.
You missed the whole point i was trying to make really"

I disagree. I'd say less than half of the people buying this game will have looked it up on the net first. In fact, I'd bet money that many of the people who'll buy this game haven't even seen the trailers the net ones, not the TV adverts), knows nothing of the Rockstar Social Club, and has absolutely NO CLUE about the DLC on the 360 version.

What makes casual gamer casual is the fact that they specifically DON'T do things that us hardcore gamers do. If they did, then they wouldn't be casual gamers. Now, I'm none saying that none of them have, but I am saying that the VAST majority of them have not.

Don't believe me? Wait 30 days, then look around the internet and see how many questions there are about the R* Social Club and the DLC and whatnot. The things that we already know about, they're going to find out later and come to us with questions, which proves that they knew nothing about it prior to their purchase.

[bioshock]

weather u belv it or not, the hype is more for ps3 version. look at the press, the retailers , fans, all are going for ps3, im not even hearing 360 version anywhere just few bots yelling here on the forums DLC DLC....everybody knw the ps3 has become suddenly relavent after hd format war, its sales been increasing each month beating 360. now they have 3 exculives coming in 2 months, GT5.p Haze and Mgs4 plus the timing of DS3...all at a time.anybody sense anything, they are planning big real big. and im sure we will c more in the upcoming weeks...

[SL1M DADDY]

Same price but now bundled with a 60 dollar game that is labled a system seller. Yeah, that bundle is going to sell.

[juuken]

Oh Microsoft. You have a lot to learn when it comes to marketing games. And so, Sony strikes again! That's why Sony was downplaying the content. They knew what they were doing. I don't even care about the downloadable content anyway. I would rather play the game on a system that's winning than to pay for that.

Excellent work Sony-you're getting your game back.

[40cal]

I remember about a year ago that Rockstar and Take Two had said on the playstation.blog that they had made a deal with Sony to bring out exclusive games to the PS3 over the next couple of years.
http://blog.us.playstation....

It looks to me like they said, M$ wants to give us 50mill well take it. Hell any one hear going to leave that kind of money on the table, I think not. And then went back to there original plans with Sony.

This would seem to be one of the reasons, "besides money of course" that EA/Peter Moore wants to buy out Take Two. This gen of gaming is going to be interesting to say the least.

[ROCCOZILLA]

R* dosnt need xbox,it only cares about SONY.360 isnt worth there time, its a dying console.PLAY B3YOND!!

[Ko_Uraki]

We'll see some surprises...

[Lookbehind]

Good for Sony...my 360 died on me 2 months ago and took it back to Best Buy and traded it in for a ps3 and never looked back. I should've waited to get that bundle now :(.

[Hercules]

great for sony, i mean, i may hate the 360, but M$ might just grab a bundle on the 28th, and there it goes! but the way this article broke down the prices, it seem funny to me...anywho, just wait until the 30th..and on that day articels will fly into the internet saying which sold the must games..since both games are exactly the same, it doesnt matter, does it?

[brothersimon]

lol people dont understand how bs this topic is

[TheREALHarryEtTubMan]

LOL I understnad the PS3 is already destroyed FLOPbox sales in every country all over the world. EVERYWHERE. I understand that the PS3 is the only console getting a GTA 4 bundle now HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH and I understand and have read articles about Rockstar saying how therey prefer Sony and how they owe them all their fame and fortune. Notice whos getting the Rockstar Exclusives next year??? PS3 is. XBox 360 is getting nothing but a big pile of FAIL. Xbox 360 will have the lug pulled in a year or so its selling so bad. Just like its big brother and you BOTS thought the 360 was a big hit or something HAHAHAHHAHA just because it came out first.

.... sorry BOTS... Seniority rules. Xbox 360 will be destroyed by the PS3(It already has been, look at the horrible sales... this just killed Xbox 360 GTA sales HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH)

[brothersimon]

k

[TheREALHarryEtTubMan]

....HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHH AHA

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The FLOPbox will be destroyed.(I love saying that)

[phctheone]

and sony scores...

19 days left..

[Glad to be a gamer]

Its Rockstar are screwing Ms by making an exc Gta bundle to the Ps3. Make up your'e mind people it looks like what ever happens with this bundle Ms can't win. Typical of this site evn though Ms are getting the better version with dlc its some how been turned around to be Sony win due to increased hardware sales due to a "supposed exc bundle"

Ill bet a large wad of cash that both consoles will have bundles for this game whether it be official or unofficial. Its the biggest game release of the year do you really think either company are not gonna cash in on the opportunity.

As for Gta4 selling better due to it being viewed synonomous with the Ps franchise i think is very short sighted. If you look at the sales for Dmc4(1.09=ps3, 0.9=360)on both consoles i think it shows that everyone already knows that you can get Ps exc on the 360.

But why am i posting this the point of this site isn't to have discussions based in reality. its there to find articles and post comments that make the 360 look bad and the ps3 look good. I was suprised when that 360 has the superior version article got approved must be an exception to the genreal trend.

[smokeb4]

all u bots r big a$$ suckers sink like the titanic

[celticlonewolf]

Is no one has picked up on the point of what this guy started these articles about. MS given points with gta because they were panacing about needing to sweeten the deal. Now a little later on sony is possibly given away the game free with there system and he doesnt say anything about sony in a panic..kind of funny dont you think? This deal be great no question asked but it wasnt anyone screwing anyone it was just a smart move by sony. The only thing I have to say is that it is still quite a less expensive to buy it on the 360 than the sony bundle especualy with many stores having there own bundles. People on here forget that sometimes people have to go the cheapest way simply because they dont have enough money for anything els. Good gaming

[solidworm]

gee the karma is really biting round here. Last year we got anti sony threads non stop, how things change. What a difference a year makes. SONY are looking real smart at the mo and will probably look smarter as the year progresses. Sorry but any bots revelling while sony squirmwed last year are just gonna have to take theyre lumps now.

[she00win99]

microsoft maybe one of the riches company but they definitely not the smartest. if the article is true then sony will get a lot of profit out of this game compared to MS..

[N4GayFanturds]

Please Note:

Consumers > Fanboys

Gamers > Fanboys

Have a nice day with your tired, old & useless flame wars and flame war stories.

3 years of this BS back & fourth. Why can't people just play and be happy? Sony's not leaving the console industry. MS isn't either. And Nintendo has proved themselves (yet again) that they can pull their own weight. We have CHOICES. All of them are good. Chose. Play. And STFU, already. D@m.

[jollygoodchap8]

The most sensible thing I've ever read on this site...ever

+Bubbles for you

[jollygoodchap8]

I guess he should have been a biased ass.

Then people will see hes quite the sensible poster.

(sigh)

[kewlkat007]

why are people so up in arms about who is getting a bundle....haha

Console Gaming Fanboys have gotten sad...

Fighting words over fn bundles..What are we flaiming about again?Oh yeah "BUNDLES"? like WTF....

We all know what the strategy has been it doesn't matter on what console GTA is sonomymous with, MS is here, no going anywhere and is taking market-share, so who gives a sh^t, your buddy will get the PS3 version or Vice versa?

Still nobody knows what the finished product will be like on any console(which may take away from sales of either), can't wait for the reviews.

Shheeesh Bundles..

[mirroredderorrim]

What you don't get about Bundles is that they attract NEW consumers for the Playstation brand. I'm using this as an example as they have done quite a few bundles on a successful note with both PS1/2 before hand. Throw in next-gen hardware with a next-gen game of the utmost, highest anticipation, in one box.. that's enough to sway the masses. So take the masked, pro-microsoft opinion to the open toilet.

Sony's got the bundles, Microsoft has the DLC. No one loses here, except me.. cause I'm not even buying the game because of that DLC and I own all 3 consoles (sony,ms,nin).

[Alcohog]

Another reason the pack-ins are a big deal is because you still have a large portion of the PS2 user base yet to make the switch to this generation of hardware. Things like this are precisely what will sway people, and they have the brand loyalty on their side. Sony's marketing team knows what they are doing. To be honest I have no idea what Microsoft is waiting for with this. If they are banking on word of mouth of the DLC then they are in for a rude awakening. I know a lot of you have heard it before but between the launch of GTAIV and MGS4 in the next two months Sony is going to be pushing a lot of hardware. Not to mention GT5P is still moving consoles over seas like crazy. Should be interesting to watch if you are into marketing strategies and sales figures.

[callahan09]

Here's the score, people: Microsoft had a contractual agreement with Rockstar, and they paid them 50 million dollars so they'd agree to sign said contract. Microsoft didn't put in the proper efforts to ensure that they got what they wanted out of this 50 million dollar deal, and so anything that Rockstar does that is not in violation of that contract is perfectly reasonable and legal. Microsoft made a deal with them, and if Sony made a deal too, all you can really say about it is that it's good business on the part of Sony and Rockstar to capitalize on an open opportunity. If Microsoft have a problem with that, maybe they should have considered the circumstances of their agreement with Rockstar and put a bit more thought into it before they threw 50 million dollars at them for something that wouldn't really do a damn thing to ensure that the Xbox 360 version is the de facto version, while completely missing out on other opportunities that would have been more lucrative, such as a bundle deal.

[Alymon]

I hardly call this Rockstar screwing Microsoft. It assumes alot.

And considering analysts are predicting that the 360 version will outsell the PS3 version at a 2-1 ratio, it is pretty presumptuous to claim that this is going to break MS.

It might make the PS3 version look a little better, but in terms of shear install base, the 360 still has the upper hand by far.

[Kemicalbeliefs]

Its not the amount of games sold to PS3 or 360 which is being focussed on, its more to do with how many consoles will be sold because of it.

The PS3 is presently about 6.5 million consoles behind MS who had an 11 million lead. What will the figures tell us in June?

[Alymon]

I understand that it may help bridge the gap in hardware between the PS3 and the 360, but it's not going to be enough to close the gap completely and you can't ignore the fact that the 360 still has the highest software attach rates, which is where Sony and MS will make the most money in the long term.

Hardware sales will definitely help grow the install base, but unless Sony can convince people to buy more games, it's a meaningless victory.

[callahan09]

Guy above, you said: "Hardware sales will definitely help grow the install base, but unless Sony can convince people to buy more games, it's a meaningless victory."

Well, in case you missed it, the "360 owners buy more games" argument is starting to become untrue.

First, a comparison of how many consoles there are:
PS3 = 11.60 million
360 = 18.13 million

Ratio of PS3's to 360's = 64%

The last weeks' stats for worldwide software sales have PS3 selling 1,177,929 software units. The 360 sold 1,336,704.

That means that PS3 software units sold 88% as much as 360 software units. This puts the percentage of PS3 owners who bought a game last week at 10.2%, whereas the percentage of 360 owners who bought a game last week was 7.4%.

The week prior to that? The PS3 sold 1,373,522 software units, and the 360 sold 1,524,577 software units. PS3 number was 90% of 360 number. Percentage of PS3 owners who bought a game = 11.8%, percentage of 360 owners who bought a game = 8.4%.

And the week before that, which was before Gran Turismo 5 Prologue was out:
PS3 Software = 1,152,657 (out of 11,175,106 hardware) = 10.3%
360 Software = 1,939,163 (out of 17,829,477 hardware) = 10.8%

So before GT5Prologue, PS3 software was selling at almost the same attach rate as Xbox 360 software, and since GT5Prologue, PS3 software has been selling at a better attach rate than Xbox 360 software. The argument that PS3 owners aren't buying games is pretty much bunk. And when GT5Prologue hits America this coming week, expect those numbers to keep in favor of PS3 having the bigger attach rate growth. And it's only a short amount of time before MGS4 comes out, and its a pretty steady game from there as far as I predict.

[Spydr07]

Exposing a fallacy...nicely done. You forgot Tekken 6, which, despite popular belief, is a AAA title. Unless selling 3 million+ per game on average (most Tekken games are between 3 and 7 million sold on a console) doesn't make it AAA... Anyway, bubbles for sensibly debunking the BS.

[-EvoAnubis-]

Well said. Bubbles for you.

[LONEWOLF231]

WOW!!! What a twist of fate!!!! PS3 FTW!!!!!!!!!

[Naphthos]

Xbox is DYING. (hence the name dreamcast 360). It came out sooner, with inferior technology, and it'll DIE before a normal 5 year console lifespan has passed. All your flame warring can't stop it. YOU SHOULD'VE HAD PATIENCE, waited a year, and gotten a PS3.

[TheREALHarryEtTubMan]

And I love hearing 360 faboys still proclaiming and pretending the PS3 is OMG 8 million consoles behind(if it ever even was).

No it's getting closer now BOTS. PS3 is closing the gap. By mid-way through 2009 PS3 will have caught up with the 3fixme and will go on to outsell it for 7 or more years HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH POOR BOTS can't stop getting pounded!!!

[RAM MAGNUMS]

Listen to me Now, Believe me Later On! The PS3 version will have much more going on in game than xbox standard dvd9 copy. Watch!

[Citizen Cook]

Its all falling apart for M$ now. I predict PS3rd will be second this year, with Xbox in third and last place. And M$ have no one to blame but themselves!

HA HA HA HA!

[himdeel]

...and that's what they are getting. I could see 360 fanboys being terribly upset by this PS3 bundle but you can only fault MS for working out a crappy deal with Rockstar. They "threw" money at Rockstar for the content, and unless there is something in that deal that hasn't been disclosed to the public, Rockstar threw some content back at them.

With Rockstars track record I'm CERTAIN the content is going to make all the 360 folks happy and be well worth the wait. Once its released people with PS3's and 360s will give up all the juicy tid bits about this content which I expect. 360 fanboys will be too happy PS3 fanboys will be too mad...oh well ce la vie. While I hope this content doesn't require a gamer to beat the game to access it MS is ultimately getting exactly what they paid for.

After all besides the original GTA game on pc, the Sony ~ Rockstar relationship is reciprocal. These two companies have made some good money for each other over the last few years, and that has to say something about the type of relationship the two companies will always have with each other.

I kind of see MS's move in this situation similar to paying the coolest girl in school to go to the prom with them, MS gives the girl all the money up front, but tells the girl she doesn't have to show up. Bad form MS...bad form :(

[Stryfeno1]

The game is going to sell more on the 360 the first day of release and it will sell more in the long run because of DLC. How can MS lose. It's Sony that's in a panic for getting a bundle not MS.

[Alcohog]

The problem with that is nobody knows about the DLC except N4G users haha. Oh well who cares which one sells more? Its like should I buy a game for my PC with my ATI card in it or my PC with a NVIDIA card in it? Durrrr the game will be the same either way, ya know? Its just stupid fan-boy bickering.

[PStriple703]

why is sony not releasing this for the US? I mean a 40gb ps3+GTA+DS3 would be a steal....

[mirroredderorrim]

Pssst. They are doing it for the U.S too. I saw the pre-order bundles at EB.

[Z501]

existing 360 owners.
Like i said before, if you go to a game store, and you don't own either console. but you're looking to buy one.

The PS3 bundle looks good right now, compared to having to wait til August for just 2 episodes, and by then will it even matter.

[Alcohog]

You make a good point.

[zonetrooper5]

GTA IV was never going to be an exclusive to the PS3 unless Sony payed Rockstar alot of money (in b4 Sony never pays for exclusives lawl).

GTA series has appeared on the PC (Windows OS), Xbox, PS1, PS2, Gameboy etc. GTA was always a mutiplatform series and Sony never made Rockstar or GTA what it was, I would give it to the mutiple platforms and Rockstar who made GTA what it was.

[HelghastGeneral]

all this website talks about is gran theft auto 4 maybe its because this website loves xbox so much. there is an article everday about grand theft auto 4 like its only reason why we own ps3 or 360. i really do not care about this game at all i am more interested in other titles like metal gear 4 and killzone 2.

[PimpHandHappy]

i would almost feel bad for the 360 owners on this site but i dont

you know why

because what comes around goes around and in 2007 you fools all had your day in the sun, sun for you ppl eqauls false pride in things you dont make money on, and now the storm clouds have ringed around you little system and its about to get blown away by the little japs and there amazing machines

PS3 FTW

[mirroredderorrim]

Yesterday I purchased a DualShock3 ( my first ) *bow*; @ the Eb store (before the conversion to gamestop)
and I asked the guy working there, if he will be buying GTIV, he said yeah, and I asked what system and he said "PS3" He knows about the DLC and so does his co-worker, they're both getting PS3 versions of the game*

We even went as far as discussing the N4G site. They both believe PS3 will come on top over all and GTAIV is going to be the gunshot Sony's been waiting for. Well not on those words, exactly, their opinions pointed to such analogy.

[Varsarus]

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[PimpHandHappy]

I traded in 8 games and got

Rumble
GT5
GTA4
all paid for

i also had 11bucks to reserve MGS

I now only own 5 games
Rock Band
Warhawk
COD
The Show
Burnout

it was such a savings that i might buy Haze and get a 2nd rumble controler

Gamestop might be evil but they have deals going on if you trade in 3 PS3 games

[PimpHandHappy]

Just wait till the NA MGS bundle

[PSWe60]

between M$ and Sony should be made into a movie. Trully a harsh blow from Sony. I don't think Rock* screwed M$, they're just looking out for #1. Downloadable content on the 360, bundles for the PS3, it's win freakin' win for Rock*

[Official General]

You seem like a guy who knows what he's talking about. It's funny because I have a friend who has both a 360 and a PS3 and I told him about episodic DLC on the 360 version of GTA 4. He had no idea that it even existed for the 360. He was kinda interested, but not very much so as you'd expect. It seems like he's still getting the PS3 version anyway. I live in London (UK) and from what I see and hear, I dont really believe very many gamers here (both hardcore and casual) actually know about this exclusive DLC.

By the way, why are all the 360 guys on here crying tears and acting like they have really hurt feelings because they see alot of anti-360 comments posted on this site? You dont need to moan, wow. If you dont like it, then dont read it, it's that simple! Damn you all need to hug each other and get some paper tissue to wipe your tears, you very sensitive bunch of 360 fanatics. You all know your names.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

this news only applies to the UK.........i'm not in the UK.

what the fvck man.

[mirroredderorrim]

Here's my take on this: in terms of Grand Theft Auto 4, the Xbox may sell more, while at the time of this title being out, the hardware side of things will belong to Sony. Thing is they will be giving GTA away WITH the system for the same price... I mean.. how can you go wrong?

This vastly benefits those without PS3. They have something good to offer those people, one of the worlds favorite games on one of the worlds favorite gaming systems. Now.. if only those new PS3's had pro backwards compatibility. ;P

[thehitman]

No1 cares about backward compatibility. It wont stop ppl from buying a ps3(40gig) and it wont stop them from playing playstation games. I never met any1 with a ps3 playing ps2 games still. Every1 says the same thing they cant even look at a ps2 game after going to ps3 its a big leap. Its like playing a playsation1 game on your ps2 who the hell did that???

Anyway back on topic GTA Bundle is what MS should have did instead of some DLC that wont do shyt for them.

[rawd]

Any Bots that want to come over and play the REAL version of GTA4 on 52" XBR4, just give me a holla. You know if your not too busy calling customer service for an RMA number or digitally downloading wanna be high def Youtube-quality movies

[t-0_ot-]

I don't understand what the big deal about paying $50 a year is? That's only about $4 a month.. If that's a big deal to you guys then you must be on a tight income. My brother can pay that and he is only 15.. And, some people say you can use that $50 on a game.. Nope, games are $60 you still need $10 more. Well, unless you wait a year for the price to come down on a game you want..

[juuken]

That's still MONEY. Not everyone wants to throw money down the tubes when they can get an online service that's free and very easy to use. And now that Home is even closer to launching, and in-game XMB is coming in the next update, you can't help but give Sony a big round of applause for putting up with the bullshit people were spewing since 2007 about the console.

Sony is proving everyone who flamed it wrong. So glad I did not get a 360, so very, very glad!

[lswanson1]

lmao, yeah, that guy in the article isnt a M$ groupie or anything. Better games? Better online? Better DLC? My @ss! PS3 FTW!

[Neo604]

GTA4 already have like 50 hours of game play and online game, who need DLC.

[HelghastGeneral]

if sony can release a grand theft auto 4 ps3 package here in the united states too besides uk and australia then it will be a even greater blow. they probably are trying but since uk and australia not many people bought it yet over there like over here its still a potent move. over here people are blinded by 360 so it may not sell as much but still.

my advice to microsoft only when you care about consumers and invest like sony you can win everything its very simple. let me explain some steps you purposely failed on taking because your too greedy.

first you did not invest in a powerful processor like the cell thats why all multiplatform games and 360 games have the same animation as last generation. so sad how resident evil 5 the most wanted sequel has to have the same animation as resident evil 4. but instead you could care less about animation only how good the games look in photos so you invested a lot in a good gpu to blind everyone.

second you should of included hd dvd for 360 this way hd dvd could of won and everyone would of had a high definition xbox in addition to developers being able to fit a lot more on one disc and games being better. but no cause you want digital downloads for everything like dont care about our opinions.

third you should of never released windows vista it sucks and noone likes it now when you release another operating system people are not going to trust it easily.

fourth you should of never charged for xbox live just because of that i buy all my online games for ps3 because i can play for free.

fifth your investing in a wii remote for 360 just give up already everyone that wanted a wii has a wii and your not going to take its place it wont save you.

and the last thing i am going to say is if your going to make another console listen to us gamers and learn from your mistakes.

[juuken]

Well said. If they would listen first, then they would get bigger support. But when it boils down to it, it was all about GREED and nothing else.

[Neo604]

they will destroy their foes.

[Trekster_Gamer]

It's a shame that so many people even care for this type of over hyped game. It will pale in comparison to GOW2.

[Microshaft]

Hey I just looked on play.com website which is one of the largest internet retailers in the UK and they have a 360 premium or pro what ever it is for £199 with GTA IV included in the price, premiums alone sell for £199 anyway so how does this bundle make sense i thought it was exclusive? Although the release date is 2nd April but its only a few days later?

Link = http://www.play.com/Games/X...

[Angelitos]

MS, stop bribing.

[ShadesMoolah]

A presumptuous title and article that is based purely on speculative reasoning. How have R* screwed anyone? Seeing as having a bundle for your console is really a matter of choice, why shouldn't the PS3 have a bundle and why shouldn't Xbox 360 have a bundle or similar deals at retail? Nothing has been announced for Xbox 360 as of yet and so people being overly quick to put the final nail in the coffin are a little premature at this stage.

Point is GTA IV will be big for MS and SONY and unless you have a vested interest or shares in either company, as a gamer why should you care, as long as you get to play the game come the 29th?

[Ko_Uraki]

SONY will have a great bundle in Europe, and MS the DLC and probably the possibility to make the tv spots only with the "XBOX360" logo in the US.

[BattleAxe]

It seems as though MS didn't think this whole deal through. They have made some tactical errors in the console war and I belive they are on the way down.

Looks like 2008 really is Sony's year.

[zonetrooper5]

Depends tbh, MS does have some other games to show and some of the games they have shown are looking great and very fun to play. For instance, Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie 3, Gears of War 2 etc. Them 3 games alone for the 360 for me is looking like alot of fun and yes there are other games for the PC and PS3 which I'm looking forward to.

[akumous]

Sony always having a slow start and then kicking up with storm...I think more than ever this is the beginning point of greatness for Sony, but I am not here to praise Sony. The reason why I got rid of my 360, was not only for its defectiveness, but MS only push out great games in the early cycle of the system. The last great game of Xbox before it died or lost it steam was Halo 2 and soon the same thing going to happen with 360 with Gears of War 2. Sony has so many franchise that has yet to be announced and there will be bundles for GOW 3, FF 13, and GT5...So what MS has for us?

[Mclovin96]

People who are getting really excited about the PS3 version should stop and think for a sec. MS paid 50 mil for the DLC. That is obviously a lot of money even for microsoft. Taking into consideration that blockbuster games like gears of war only cost about 10 mil to develop, the DLC is gonna be huge. The amount of money they paid is bigger than the budget of the vast majority of games. The DLC will not be a couple of extra missions that you d/l for free. It will be like a vice-city or san andreas add-on that you pay for. It's not hard to figure out.

Unless you already have a PS3 and not a 360, smart people would buy the 360 version.

[juuken]

No, smart people would buy the bundled version instead of buying the game itself for the 360. GTA was a Playstation franchise. You're not fooling anyone with that logic.

[ReBurn]

This game is going to move consoles, bundles or not.

I wonder what it cost Sony to line that up?

[HadeShade]

You people need to realize that the PS3 has a better image in europe than it does in the US. So it WILL move a lot more PS3s than 360s when it launches.

But... Sony needs to bundle GTAIV in the US. The PS3 has outsold the 360 for two months in a row(possibly 3), but the 360 still has a way bigger presence here in the US. Its more popular here, thats why the PS3 needs the GTA bundle in the US.

[Alcohog]

I like people.

*hugs everyone*

[cmrbe]

consensus is that the GTA PS3 bundle is a bigger deal compared to the DLC. The GTA theme PS3 package is very very visible. It will only enforced still the GTA-PS association even further.

The author's reasoning is quite logical.

[djroberts]

Smart move for Sony but I garauntee you that the 360 version will outsell the PS3 version. However, I wouldn't be suprised of the PS3 sells more per console, especially in Europe.

Microsoft needs to step up there marketing and drop the price of the 360 in the US. $350 for 20GB hard drive, no wireless, no BRD drive and not even a rechargable controller battery is rediculous. The console should be $250 and dominating.

[Alcohog]

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[nizza]

Sony has always bundled games with their consoles. Its their equivalent of a price cut.

This is just one of many bundles your gonna see this year.
There's already the GT5:P bundle, then there will be a GTA:IV bundle and then a MGS4 later this year and possibly a LBP bundle too.

There will be a price cut shortly after that, just in time for xmas, then next years bundle frenzy starts all over again with GT5, Resistance 2, Motorstorm 2 etc. etc. etc.