PS3 owners: Does the code 80010514 mean anything to you?

The Xbox 360's RROD has been the monkey on Microsoft's back for the past couple of years, but according to some reports, Sony has been dealing with some similar problems with the PS3 as well. Complaints on Sony's own forums show a small percentage of users being greeted with 80010514 errors, and finding out that their Blu-ray drives are no longer functioning. A quick search via the information superhighway seems to indicate that Sony has not released an official breakdown of the code, but that it veritably indicates an issue with the Blu-ray drive.

[LightningPS3]

what is that?

[va_bank]

Doesn't ring a bell. Two PS3s (40gb and 60gb) not a single problem. I do know one guy in my Warhawk clan whose PS3 broke.

"according to some reports, Sony has been dealing with some similar problems with the PS3 as well"

Nice. This sentence will bring in fanboys from both sides.

EDIT: Sorry, meant to be a standalone post.

[sonarus]

LOL @ the approvals. Can't just leave you guys up there by yourselves. Seems like 360 owners have been dying to break a broken ps3 story so let them just have this one.

Still nowhere near the numerous 360 faults that seem to be getting worse instead of better. When you have devs carrying back up consoles trying to anticipate RROD and even display 360's don't seem to cut it anymore. RROD is a Problem blu ray drive malfunction is more of an inconvenience. I hope all the users with faulty drives get theirs fixed.

[mikeslemonade]

PS3 will not have a large scale defect rate like the 360 because there are people out there who do Folding@Home 24/7. I wanna see a 360 owner try to run an application 24/7 and report back with a working 360 after month. I doubt that 360 would be a working one.

[RecSpec]

Alas, the never ending search for Sony's equivalent of the RROD.

[Sir Ken Kutaragi 4]

No one i know has had it??? PS3 is a reliable console;)

[Bonsai1214]

i thought it was a network connection problem code. i had a few of those before i configured my router correctly...

[Death]

This made me chuckle. "RROD is a Problem blu ray drive malfunction is more of an inconvenience." I think it's safe to assume, you think the Blu-Ray malfunction is for movies only, but that isn't the case. When the drive malfunctions, it won't read any disc based media. This includes PS3 games on Blu-Ray disc, PS2 games on DVD, and PS1 games on CD Roms. Oh yeah, movies don't work on Blu-Ray or DVD either. This is a little more than an inconvenience especially when you couple it with the extended wait times on 60 and 80 gig repairs since the company is currently out of stock. I'm not sure how much I believe it, but there are reports on the PS3 forums of people waiting months instead of weeks.

Typically, hardware failures occur more frequently as system are out longer. Failure rates are not an infinite measurement, they are based on required repairs in a set amount of time. The longer the PS3 is out, the more failures you will see. This isn't a fault of the manufacturer as much as it is the effects of time on low cost high tech and incredibly high tech items.

-Death

[JsonHenry]

Gah.. I remember replacing my PS2 twice in three years because the DVD drive in it went bad.

[Mclovin96]

"RROD is a Problem blu ray drive malfunction is more of an inconvenience."

Like Death already said, that means games or movies won't work, basically rendering your console useless.

Even if it was only movies that didn't work that would still be a disaster seem as though being the cheapest blu-ray player is the only reason most people buy the PS3.

[mikeslemonade]

You have to dust the lense. And frequently dust the PS3. The 360 also has DREs, so if you say PS3 has this than 360 has scratch disc, DRE, Red ring, and other stuff.

[yanikins111]

Reported as offensive. Open zones that-a-way my man ---->

[Harry190]

this problem with my first ps3 after 7 months.

[adalwolfe]

oh yeah, i am on my 3rd ps3 now over the past year.. i continually get this 80010514 error message with the blueray drive.

Its not just me either, i have 5 friends that own ps3's and 4 of them have also had to return their ps3's for the same reason. :(

oh yeah and when i called sony support it took hours just to get a rep on the line, same with all my friends, its like they just have one agent. And their warranty does not cover the error after the first year..

sony sucks.. get a 360, the 3 year warranty is unmatched! And they have better exclusives!

[wow4u]

Hey everyone, look at all the off topic posts about the Xbox 360 trying to deflect attention from PS3 hardware faults.

Hey, Sony has quite a record with hardware problems -- the PS2 was notoriously bad, and Sony didnt pony up the extended hardware warranty and free fixes.

I've got 3 broken PS2s in my closet. In my home town, there were STORES who's only business was to repair broken PS2s.

[uie4rhig]

huh?

[toughNAME]

I mean I can literally throw my Microsoft Xbox 360 Wireless Headset at people and it will never break.

[perils]

hmm can you throw your 360 at people without it breaking? anyways this will never catch on i mean the name for one thing! RROD is way snappier than Code 80010514. "holy sh!t my ps3 just code 80010514ed on me!!!!!!!!" nup

[sonarus]

hahaha gunnerforlife just owned you man

[prunchess]

Funny! Made me laugh that!

[timmyp53]

alright. ;)

[ruibing]

Of all the companies to use to exemplify solid hardware, it amazes me that you chose MS. The PS3 has one of the lowest failure rate of all the current gen consoles, please don't tell them that they need to learn from the company with the highest failure rate.

Btw, I've thrown (dropped) my Jabra bluetooth headsets around and they really don't break, they are all that rugged. You need to find a better example for a good hardware in terms of their average lifetime, like IBM Thinkpads.

[EZCheez]

Appreciated your humor.

[bababrooks]

gunner, what is the life span on the blue -ray laser? i have not got a clue, do you, if so tell all?

[Cupid_Viper_3]

I know what you mean man, I have something else that does that too, it's call a "ROCK". but then agai, we all know that sony can't compare to MS when it comes to things not breaking. which brings us to NEW RULES

NEW RULE everybody
New Rule, you can't be dying of cancer, and worry about the next guy with ã simple cold, you simply can't.
I know ,I know, you want to see it as "see? we all get sick" sort of way, but saddly it isn't so. clearly, one is f*cked, and one is sick.

and I know that all the buzz about the ps3 is driving you nuts, but there's no need to hit people with expansive,
"unbreakable" MS made headsets, use rocks, it's of better value, for that purpose of course.

[Mr_Kuwabara]

Throw that headset of yours to Chuck Norris and he'll break you in two!!!!!!

lol

[sonarus]

hahaha your a legend man.

[jadenkorri]

cmon, it would a been better to use the ps3 controller, since you are throwing the 360 controller, yes, the headset and controller are linked via a cable on the 360, were as the ps3 controller is separate from the headset since its also wireless

[lilwingman]

better not throw your 360 dude. if you touch it it may break.

[yanikins111]

I got the joke.

[Amanosenpai]

You just bite your tongue...

And yea you should throw your 360 trought the window, its going to implode cause overheating sooner or later... (joke)¬_¬

[kalle]

And you are not a fanboy, right? even sonarus think what you said i funny :D That is how we all know a sony fanboy, they are around 12 years or at least they want us all to think so.

[kalle]

You show us all that you dont know anything about 360, 360 has wireless headset too. Its easy to bash on something you dont know anything about.

[MorganX]

I believe it. But, here's the difference. I've had 1 Playstation 3, I've had 4 XBoxes due to failure. The problem isn't failures or warranty. It's the percentage and frequency.

If my PS3 goes out, I'll be disappointed and get it repaired. But I have no reason to believe it will fail. It has been silent and reliable.

I fully expect my Xbox to fail as all others have. I haven't had any problem with the new design (motherboard with HDMI) but I'm still skeptical due to the high failure rate of Xboxes I've owned. And the noise of the fan is getting louder everyday.

Anything man made will fail. Quality is measured by the failure "rate," not the failure.

[Wildarmsjecht]

You speak wise words??!?!? YOU CANT BELONG HERE!! OMGZZZZZZ!

Seriously tho, thank you for being one of few people who maintain a sense of logic within their cranium. You give me a slight bit of hope for mankind. Slight.

[InYourMom]

I must be in that small percentage. I've been thru 2 PS3's and am now on my third all because of DOA Blu-ray drives and I've never had any problems with my 360 (knock on a stack of wood).

So just because you don't have a problem doesn't mean there isn't one. I remember this is how the whole RROD thing started with the fanboys denying any problems but as the stories got more and more eventually they had to acknowledge it. For all the crap the 360 has gotten because of the RROD, this would be some wonderful karma in action.

However, I don't wish a broken 360 or PS3 on anyone and I can say right now this issue with the PS3 is nothing(as in not even close) to the hardware issues of the 360. I believe every launch unit sold in the first year is going to fail unless you don't turn it on. I am just waiting for my launch 360 to die but I do often leave it on overnight probably 4 days a week. To the contrary of many posters here it hasn't burst into flames yet. aha

[yanikins111]

Except for me, the statistical fluke(?) is that every 360 i know of (about 5) has broken.

[MorganX]

The Xbox failure rate went from statistical fluke to numerical fact a long time ago. With most other products a 16% failure rate would be unnaceptable. The product would be branded a faulty product. Fortunately for MS, the faulty machines don't hurt anyone or start fires and the games are really, really good.

That's one reason not adding a Bluray disc to the current Xbox is a good idea. Video game goes out, I can wait. High Def Bluray player goes out.... what the hell...

I would and will say the same thing if the PS3 had a 16% failure rate, or even half that for that matter.

[power of Green]

Looks like Sony is going to make it go away like they did with PS2(untill they were forced to do something about it, not that they did the right thing with PS2 owners after the issue was in the spotlight). Sony launched a whole shipment of defective PS3's(disc loader errors) to an whole south east asian country and was able to hide it. lol.

EDIT: Below LOL...

All PS3 fanboys do is lie about PS3 and its inferior hardware.

"What platforms will Alan Wake be available on? #

Alan Wake is currently confirmed for release on the Windows Vista for PC and the Xbox 360.

Is Alan Wake exclusive to Windows Vista? If so why? #

Petri Järvilehto had this to say on the official Alan Wake forums (18/05/06):

“I’ll confirm that Alan Wake is Vista and 360 exclusive. I know some people have reacted strongly to that, but for us this was one of the key decisions that will allow us to create the best possible game.

We’ve locked this down a while ago, and being able to focus on fewer platforms means that the game is going to kick more ass than ever before. By going with Vista, we don’t have to compromise everything to the lowest common PC denominator and since we’re not doing a PS3 version we can go all out with PC and 360 multithreading, HDR rendering etc. This focus benefits the tech and game design immensely.

We’re really sorry if some end up missing the game because of our platform choice, but in the end of the day we *must* base our decisions on what will let us create the best possible game. That’s just how Remedy as a team works: we’re passionate about creating something unique. Alan Wake is still our IP and we drive the creative control, but working with Microsoft gives us unprecedented levels of development support, testing resources and so on."

[Wildarmsjecht]

You know..theres a ton of things I can say here...things about your own console of choice having such a huge issue that it wouldn't be able to hide it..something about a pot calling a kettle black, another thing about billion dollar warranty that only covers ONE of the many failures..but i feel like it would just go over your head. Shame really.

[cellypower]

All comments on destructoid.com post haven't even heard of the problem.

[ruibing]

Since Blu Ray is bleeding edge technology, it wouldn't surprise that out of 12 million PS3 owners, there are some that have encountered this problem. But please don't compare this to the RRoD and numerous other issues the 360 faces. There are no PS3 owners that hold their breath whenever they turn on their console.

[achira]

pog you are a damn rat. go play your rodd box.

[Doctor Who]

11 Disagrees already POGGY! It shows you that your talking cr*p.
Pi**-off will you

[Sir Ken Kutaragi 4]

...www.ihatetheps3lovefrombill gatesandallmysadxbotlemmingsont his.com
;-D

[Kleptic]

wait...I don't get it...why are you talking about Alan Wake?...not one reply to your original commnet had anything to do with Alan Wake...

and lastly...POG, why do you suck so much?

[perils]

haha this is the best argument ever! basically ps3 breaks cos alan wake is great. thats logic for you.

[gamesR4fun]

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power of Green (1) - 1h ago

lol biggest bunch of ng4 xbots approved this wheres our mods?
Right same old same old made up news to slander the other console while you try and bury all the facts about your crap box!

[Gazman]

Without a doubt you are the biggest loser here, you go and have a cry when ps3 fanboys attack a xbox article but when a ps3 article comes out you are alway the first to jump on board. Grow up you sad little gimp.

[Fat Bastard]

Power of Green has no weiner. Poor kid

[gambare]

Needs a girl (or a man) badly

[Ali_The_Brit]

rofl i cant believe you said "lie about its inferior hardware" come now are you going to have me actualy believe the 360 is stronger than the PS3 hardware wise?...not a bloody chance and you know it it just doesnt have the raw power the PS3 does and its already trailing behind, M$ need a new console methinks. also with HD dvd dead its just another nail in the coffin. M$ may have the advantage software wise and i use the term MAY lightly, (even though i dont have to pay yearly just to get the most out of the PS3 software..) but hardware wise PS3 kicks the crap out of 360 then spits on it as it lays dying on the goddamn floor dont kid yourself power of dipsh!t. oh and before you call me a fanboy, i own a PS3 and a 360 elite, im just not in denile like you

[Iron Man 2]

LMFAO you are the worlds BIGGEST loser Power Of Green/TheMART,Alan Wake is NOTHING special and looks like garbage up against the PS3's big guns,and don't even compare this little problem to Xbox 360's issues which not only include RROD,poor Xzombies are running out of things to say!;)

[Infolite8907]

Power of Green, I think your the last oof the remaining 360 fanboys. Why have you not jumped out yet?! Come on and Play Beyond... It's freeeeeeeeeeee!

Note PoG: If you have not jumped out yet by the end of june when Sony releases all new games(MGS4, Killzone 2(I think), in-game XMB, GT5: Pro, HOME, and etc), then you failed to see the true power of the PS3, what REAL next gen has. The worst part is your defective 360 is bringing out the last of its good games (I guess) and the PS3 is just starting. Sad!

[AngryTypingGuy]

Not true Infolite, I'm a proud 360 fanboy. I'm a little different though, I don't think the PS3 is inferior to the 360, just different. I've said all along they both have their pros and cons. And the PS3 has been more reliable as far as overheating. I just prefer the 360 because of several factors, which I won't name right now since I have to go back to work in a minute.

As long as their are consoles with disc drives, there will be consoles with disc drive problems. They just happen sometimes.

[liquidsnake]

Can a post be reported as pure SH!T?

[juuken]

PoG, you're a really, really sad individual.

Inferior hardware? Really, don't make the rest of us laugh.

[Buubar]

Remember everyone, if you don't like the story, report it.

That way the story will be removed from N4G. :)

[OC_MurphysLaw]

"Remember everyone, if you don't like the story, report it.

That way the story will be removed from N4G."

That is the WORST fanboy logic/instructions I have ever heard for this site. If you dont like the news the report it and it will be removed. Well I am sure there are a ton of 360 fanboys who didnt like the RROD news but it got reported as it should have. Logic like yours is exactly why I cant stand the rabid fanboy... "I dont like that other console so I am going to try and oppress any stories that are good about it, and approve the bad ones and only approve the good ones for my console...."

Try being a gamer and just approve legit stories no matter who's side of the fence they fall on.

[power of Green]

Lame: (17 minutes ago)
Approved by PowerofGreen. Thats all that needs to be said.
Reported by: Goodfella2487

^^^ Reported by Goodfella2487 thats all that need to be said.

[TheREALHarryEtTubMan]

Try harder desperate fool. XD XD XD

[power of Green]

How many times do I have to put you on ignor?, I have 300 PS3 fanboys on ignor most of that are Sony fanboys that change their accounts or have many. If I was to show my ignor list to the mods 50% of PS3 fanboys on this site would be band.

Talk about trying harder you have to change your account but all you have to do is tone down your rabid BS.

[TheREALHarryEtTubMan]

sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee e....I have a feeling you're a 300 pound, 35 year old man. I bet I'm about right too. Either that or your 13.

Why can't you just accept how big of a FLOP the Xbox 360 is??? And how bad a piece of hardware is??? Why pretend the PS3 could even come close to being the piece of junk the FLOPbox 180 is?? Does it sooth you? Does you wack off to one little article that's not even true about PS3 maybe having a malfunction or error code LOL and bury your face in your pillow and scream with all the great PS3 news and RROD/360 is a FLOP articles?

[Wildarmsjecht]

There goes that pot calling the kettle black again!

Oh power of green, how do you make me lulz so.

[poopsack]

Your a hypocrite to? Arent you the one with multiple accounts? Oh, the mart is from Texas right? sure...

[halo3betasnatch out]

*sigh*... so you're actually trying to tell us that the PS3 has inferior hardware... k.... lol, so a blu-ray player is inferior to a SD DVD player... and a standard processor is better than a cell broadband engine... and the larger video card in the PS3 is worse than the smaller one in the 360... I mean come on man, you are calling us liars and yet you blatantly tell us something is fact when it is obviously not... either way I don't understand loyalty to a damn video game console or any corrupt huge corporate company, I mean.. WTF is that??

[AllroundGamer]

"If I was to show my ignor list to the mods 50% of PS3 fanboys on this site would be band. " lol :D :D go tell your mommy crybaby...

[Aleusia]

POG take Obama off your avatar, you shame the man's good name.

[Rageanitus]

what is the frequency of this issue.

[TripleTags]

OVER 9000!!!!!

[PirateThom]

It's an optical drive. They do sometimes fail. No big deal, it happens sometimes.

[Max Power]

its a brand new technology that pretty much debuted with the PS3, i would expect a few hiccups.

[Fishy Fingers]

Max Power, he's the man who's name you'd love to touch! But you mustn't touch!
His name sounds good in your ear, but when you say it, you mustn't fear! 'Cause his name can be said by anyone!

[ReBurn]

I paid $500 for my 60gb PS3. If the optical drive fails it is a very big deal to me. I still have 3 months left on my warranty, so if it is going to break I hope it breaks before then.

[yanikins111]

If a 600 dollar console breaks, it sucks no matter why it broke. People shouldnt say "just because its sony its ok". However like most people here are saying, it isnt anywhere near as widespread as the 360 problems. I had one issue with my first ps3, in that it kept freezing. After 5 minutes on the phone i was told to take it and a printed voucher to my local aus. post, and send it in, the postage would be paid for and id have it back in 6-7 working days. All this without asking for a receipt or anything. Funny thing is, my house got broken into the next day and my ps3 was stolen. Suck it crims, its a dud.

Now compare this to Microsofts 360 support. Oops i had misplaced my receipt in a move. Reguardless of the fact the 360 hadnt been out long enough to be out of warranty, microsoft had no interest in fixing my 360's jamming dvd drive tray. Nope, it was my fault that it was broken and because i couldnt prove it was still under warranty (which i could, like i said they had only been out for about 1 month) they pretty much said touch luck, if i found the receipt and paid for postage they would fix it. Few months later it rrods

This is why im not worried about my new ps3 (insurance is a good thing). Sony have been nothing but polite, helpful and courteous in the 10 minutes ive spoken to them. And they actually seemed eager to fix my console. The guy actually said something along the lines of "hmm it might not actually be a problem with the console but i'll book it in for a repair just to be safe"

This is why i prefer Sony.

[BigPenguin]

I had a release 60gig console, one day while playing Time Crisis 4(still have not played it since I got the new one, too afraid)the blu-ray drive stopped reading anything(and there was no error code).

It was about a month after the warranty expired(right around Christmas). I call up Sony, and tell them what happened, and they instantly told me not to worry that my warranty was expired, and sent me a box to send it off in.

Got it a brand new(read: not just refurbished) PS3 in return(was stupid and did not back up any data, still pissed I did that). I am pretty convinced that Sony was trying to cover something up, but who knows, they could just have excellent customer service.

Anyways, I had a point, but cannot remember what it was at this point.

[poopsack]

Oh yeah? Well my 360 has live and it doesnt 80010514 on me when I want to play some gamez!

[Phil Harrison Mklll]

It means xBot Slaves are LYING again about the well built PS3!
Just because their pile of Sh*t don't ever work they make up stories about the PS3!
TO LATE xBot SLAVES! YOU FAILED!

[leon76]

Exactly, another lie from stupid f*cks xbots....their hobby now is not playing games, because their sh*tbox360's are broken, their hobby is bash the PS3 with all means possible, making up any Bullsh*t they can, even the most stupid of all times, who cares, they just want to taking down the PS3!! But what they don't know is that the people, who cames here just to see news, now is vaccinated against this xbot bullsh*t...they know that PS3 IS THE BEST CONSOLE EVER, AND THE CRAPBOX360 THE GREAT PILE OF SH*T OF ALL TIMES!!!!! Give up xbots, no one believes in your bs anymore!!!!!!!!!!

[Ri0tSquad]

The only one I get a lot is when I get disconnected from PSN.

--edit--
@ ruibing

I had a feeling it was my router. I had disconnection issues with my Wii as well. Thanks.

[ruibing]

I used to get that, but it turned out it was my wireless router's authentication.

[Rourker]

I get those disconnections all the time, I shall have to check the settings on my router, thanks for that.

[RecSpec]

If that doesn't work, try disabling the Media Server Connection under network settings. That fixed my disconnect problems.

[ruibing]

My WRT54G now no longer has disconnects once I switched to the Tomato firmware with QoS. It used to get disconnects on wireless with the original firmware when I was downloading from BT from my laptop.

[MorganX]

Tomato firmware is fantastic. Felt like I got a new router when I installed.

[yanikins111]

But when i first set up my wlan everything was dissconnecting. Easily fixed. Bumped the output power to max, switched to channel 11 and here's the big one, MOVED MY CORDLESS PHONE docking station away from the router. Just for anyone having similar problems....

[Solid_Snake666]

thts true everything man made fails .....but i think xbox 360 took that saying way over the top..RROD =[

[GutZ31]

I think you can say, "EVERYTHING FAILS" and get away with it, because, men fail too.

[bababrooks]

could the 360 be running on sony batteries?

[Asurastrike]

4 of my friends have had RROD, no one I know has had 80010514.

I've had my PS3 9 months.

[INehalemEXI]

I bought a 360 it was replaced by 2 others before I got one that didnt scratch discs. Never had a RRoD but what sucks is my problem I had to pay for the second time because it was not covered in the extended RRoD waranty.

I honestly try to limit the length of time my 360 is on since ive had 2 failures already and my replacement was a refurbished 360 I can tell cause it had a crack in one of the vents... Ive known friends in RL and Online buds who have had to get theres fixed too. were talking more then I can count on 1 hand.

I bought a Wii original still works fine. though I don't use it as often as the other 2 consoles.

I bought a PS3 and still have my original PS3 never had a problem.

[The Lazy One]

I had my 360 a year and half (as well as many others who went longer) before it RRODed. It wasn't even widely acknowledged as a problem till more than a year and a half after the original release of the console.

I'm just saying, just cuz u've had it 9 months doesn't mean it won't happen. It can only get worse as time passes.

I thought I was fine cuz I only knew one person that RRODed up until mine did, that doesn't mean it wasn't a problem.

[Fishy Fingers]

It's "his-o-loob" on an upside down calculator? Coincidence?

[perils]

its a subliminal marketing! sony ar trying to sell us lubricant for men.....allthough i dont see how they could make a lubricant that excludes wimmen.......

[Rourker]

it took me a couple seconds to clue in to what you were trying to say, then it hit me and a laughed, haha.

its also eight digits long which is what I believe a standard pocket calculator can hold.

[resistance100]

that made me lol.

Have a bubble

[bootsielon]

He tries too hard to throw fud at the PS3 because his ass is sore from all the 360 RROD drum beating. Hilarious!

[Spazz]

A few months ago I went home for leave (serving in Iraq for a while) one morning I woke up before my wife and decided to fire up the barely used PS3 and get a game of Tiger Woods in before she woke up. Not to my surprised I needed to update the system. Heck I had been gone for a while and was expecting this.

What I didn't expect was after the download was complete I got nothing but a blank screen. I had sound but no picture. Immediately I called Sony up to find out the scoop. They walked me throw a few different things to reboot my system but none of it worked. They customer service rep took down my info and sent me all the packaging materials to ship the system back to them all free of shipping costs both ways. He asked if I had my receipt and my wife found it for me. It was purchased 13 months before the date I called. I was one month to late for my warranty. =(

I explained to the rep how my PS3 was getting no use because I have been on deployment and asked if there was anything he could do for me. After speaking with his manager they decided to honor the warranty. I received all the packaging material the very next day and mailed it back out to them 2 days after.

It took them about 2 weeks but my wife tells me I have a new PS3 sitting at home. They didn't even bother to fix it, they sent me a shiny brandy new one. Woo Hoo!!!

This whole time I had thought Sony was just another over priced evil empire. I was right and wrong. Yes they are over priced but they have excellent customer service and they didn't have to honor the expired warranty but they did. Because if they way they treated me I ended up buying a Sony Hi Def Camcorder instead of the Cannon one I was going to originally buy. Kudos the Sony.

Anyway the point of the story is if you have a problem with your PS3 just give them a call. If they can't fix it over the phone, they will work with you to have it repaired or replaced.

[perils]

listen to this man! hes a soldier! hell beat you up if you dont. only joking although some TA (territorial army) guys threatened to beat me up once cos i stole the numbers from their door. i got my own back by paying for the damages in full! yeah eat that!!! er anyways that was a nice story! i do love a happy ending.....that is unless your new ps3 code 80010514s on you.;)

[Vandan]

ALRIGHT LOOK THE POST JUST ASKED IF SOME ONE GOT THIS ERROR EVERY ONE SHOUDL JUST ANSWER THE GUY wITH "NOs" these fan boy flme wars R pathetic but this ones seem like it has been started by depsrate rrod hit 360 owners.....

any wayz

[vloeistof]

to much good ps3 news ey

[Rourker]

I bet just as many 360's and wii's "fail" from this as PS3's, but alas, I have no proof. but I can say one thing for sure . . . 360 fanboy's are going to have a riot on this one.

[ReBurn]

"Just" and optical drive problem? Is it not just as broken as if it some other failure?

[The Lazy One]

The 360 was just a GPU clamp problem, my tv going out was just a satellite problem, my car dieing was just a radiator problem, my toaster no longer toasting is just a power cord problem, the american public school system is just an education problem.

Just is a dangerous word. Use it wisely.

[power of Green]

PS3 will burn your house down, no wait there's no batteries in the PS3 it will just stop working after a few years like PS2.

With RROD atleast nothing works vs PS3 where it falls apart piece by piece. PS3's will be useless after movie watching destroys the drive.

[TheREALHarryEtTubMan]

hahahahaha Power of Blu ray has become more and more bitter/desperate/unrational sounding.

Hey man... I've had a PS2 for 7 or more years and still works like a charm!!

My Xbox 360 has broken 2 TIMES and I'm not even lieing!

Just get over it bro. 360 IS A FLOP.

[Kaz Hirai]

What's wrong, FOOL? Did your Xbox 360 "console" set you on fire?
Or are you just on your period?
Or are you just upset about your NON-EXISTANT 2008 "line-up"?
Prepare to be LAUGHED AT by King Kaz:

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

[Obama]

Ironcially the original xbox really burned down a house and killed a baby. Not that I want these horrific incident to happen again, but I am quite surprised that the 360 hasn't burned down a house with its 33% failure rate.

[Kleptic]

haha PS2 stops working after 2 years?...tell that to every single one of my friends that have had one under a pile of dirty laundry for the past 5 years...and they still work fine...

do you understand how retarded you are being...the 360 will run back to MS with its tail between its legs faster than a puppby on the business end of a swift kick...the 360 breaks...all the time...still...stop bringing up the PS2 and its rough launch when you are STILL INVOLVED IN MS's ONGOING PUBLIC HARDWARE BETA...

[Hercules]

i joined this site because it looked fun two months ago..i read this comment and im just like wow..that had to be the lamest comment ever..when did the ps2 fall apart? i had mine since 2003 and its still running like a champ, it maybe dusty, but hey i can still work it, and you dont expect the 360 to die out? i mean it has been out a year longer, plus many RRoD complaints, i would think twice about posting my friend

[Ali_The_Brit]

yes but the point is you fool PS3 will NEVER burn like a house compared to RRoD. honestly for every PS3 to do that rare accurance, im guessing around 50 or more 360's RRoD and thats been kind. seriously you think we care about this almost none existant problem compared to the giant 360 one i just pray mine doesnt die on me but i wouldnt be suprised

[Power of Blu]

Woah! Don't confuse me with this demented retard! Just cos I have a similar avatar to PoG's old one, doesn't mean I'm demented and (just for you PoG) RABID like he is. :)

I like the 46 disagrees you got in your first statement PoG, it shows how much people agree with you on this site. It's funny considering a few of those at least are probably from X-box Gamers.

By the way PoG, I was very impressed with your ballsy reply from our last clash, wait until I use all my bubbles before you reply, nice! You also had the gaul to accuse me of multiple accounts. There is no way on this planet that you would sustain 5 bubbles without your own legion of accounts. Are you really the Mart? It would account for why you still have all your bubbles after getting 50+ disagrees to any comment you make.

And I take back what I said before, I said in an older post that you should piss off and stop crying. I still think you should stop crying but N4G wouldn't be the same place without you. I even took you off ignore lately because I love to read your mentally retarded and hilarious comments.

[juuken]

PS3 will burn your house down, no wait there's no batteries in the PS3 it will just stop working after a few years like PS2.
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Are you an idiot or something? Sorry, but you must be mistaking the PS3 for the crap that is the 360. You're so sure that the PS3 will end up like the PS2? Ah, but you're forgetting the fact that the PS2 was actually just as reliable as the PS3. There was only a small percentage of people who had problems with the PS2. You just failed very, very hard with that argument.
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With RROD atleast nothing works vs PS3 where it falls apart piece by piece. PS3's will be useless after movie watching destroys the drive.
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Oh, so when nothing works, it's better than something that falls to pieces? Dude, where do you get your logic from?

And for the love of everything that's holy, burn your Obama avatar. That mean doesn't deserve your support, especially support from a bloody moron such as yourself.

[Obama]

1% vs 33% failure rate. PS3 has only 1 % failure rate, so out of 100 ps3 there would be only one malfunction. This is well within the normal industry failure rate.

[ElementX]

1% failure rate now. What about in another year after the hardware has been stress tested by gamers for 2 years? This new hardware and blue diodes could have problems that are waiting to be discovered. All new hardware has bugs.

[Wildarmsjecht]

In the 360s first year, the rate was still very much higher than 1%. I wonder if 2 years of PS3 being out will really change the difference between the 2.

[Rocko]

but my PS3 won't play any disks.

[GutZ31]

Did you by any chance, tape your ducts shut to keep dust out?

[InYourMom]

I did not see that error but I did get a beep and then the disc ejects on the first bad one I had. The second one I had fail would just spin and spin and never do anything.

[Rocko]

No, but I did clean those f**kers weekly.

I know what your talkin about, I put a disk in and the little bubble icon in the top right just sits there, nothing happens. It all started with random freezes and the PS3 rebooted itself, then the drive just crapped out.

[mccomber]

Great story... let us know when 1/3 of the people who own a PS3 are affected by it.

[Rugludallur]

POG why don´t you just go troll another forum, this one is lost to your pro M$ propaganda bullshit where it´s OK to monopolise the whole OS market and moving in on the mp3/mp4, and console market with the same underhanded bussiness tactics.
Linux kicks Vista´s ass.
Tux(the linux mascot) kicks bills ass
Ps3/wii kicks the 360´s ass
i-pod kicks the zunes ass
get with the times, stop waisting money on a sinking ship.

[Surfman]

never ever have a problem with my PS3.

[Rugludallur]

After 3 years there won´t still be 360´s in the world, they will be abandoned like the original and every single one has RROD, but still you will praise that they droped it because it stoped making them more money, just like you did with the original.

[InYourMom]

pants on fire go choke yourself with some piano wire.

[THC CELL]

OMD is pogmart must be getting worried

hey listen this guy who posted this forum or post
lol is 2% of people who has had a problem or code jump up on them

70% is a lot more in it pog with the x box fails rate cough

i bet u don't no how much 70% is well get this POG below 50% of people are enjoying x box 360 some will wrap towels round the box and wait a few hours and let it drift loll why cause they are scared to ad that little more 1% to your failed Box 360

over 98% are enjoying ps3 some minor freezes or people who say the network xmc sucks bla bla bla
but it don't force me to send it back and bring up law suits against sony now don't it

POGMART do me a massive Fav- get a ps3 and see what real next gen is
X BOX is Dead

POGMART is a cool name for u man you should make a xbox game shop called POGMART

[InYourMom]

the number is %70 now?? Funny how that number seems to change constantly. Fact is, all you know is what you read on the internet.

I believe personally it's %100 of the launch systems. The Falcons are anybodies guess but they sure as hell aren't anywhere near a %70.

Anyway, nice way to divert the topic at hand which is the PS3BluDeath.

The future is Blu (if it can read the disc) LOL

[Wildarmsjecht]

typing LOL at the end of your sentence doesn't make it funny. Just passing some common knowledge.

But it's good to see you feed on any PS3 hardware issues that might be remotely related to the 360's. It's a nice switch up from your usual banter.

[Wvortices]

I have seen this message before. I was trying to play the movie Chronos and the PS3 wouldn't read it. It was not the fault of the PS3 is was the fault of the producer of the disk. I only had it with that one disk, my 60GB PS3 has been solid since day one.

[Boldy]

Wow, everyone needs to open their eyes and realize that they are not the only console owner in the world. Just because something has not happened to you does not mean that it won't happen to anyone else. Just because you have never experienced a hurricane first hand doesn't mean that it's the same with everyone else (figure of speach on that last one of course).

[PSWe60]

no problems here...my PS3 still works fine.

[poos3]

the ps3 is a pile of pooo ive seen many problems associated with he ps3 from this to the crapraydisk problems but sony and fanboys are good at hiding it the ps3 is cheap taiwan built hardware

[juuken]

Mine works fine too.

[kalistyles]

Power of Piss. You talk about the PS2 getting disc read errors when the DVD first came out it was unknown what would happen. Errors are bound to come up. But Microsoft 8 years later cant seem to figure out why their systems scratches discs, overheats, and scatters buggy lines across the screens of millions of owners across the world. You would think that 8 years later they could figure this out. My PS3 works like a freakin charm. Haven't had one problem yet. How about your Junkbox 360? Don't tell me you haven't sent in one of them yet, cause that is a lie! Enjoy playing your 360 with a towel wrapped around it to cool it. LOL! What a piece of sh!t! I find it halarious you have to go on Youtube to figure out how to cool your system before it craps out.

[PSWe60]

Who ever thinks PoG is still a whinny little b!tch, give me a HELL YEAH!

[power of Green]

http://www.psonly.nl/screen...

http://www.psonly.nl/screen...

Capcom said today it was tricky developing DMC4 on PS3 what they really said *Sorry Xbox gamers we had to dumb down the title because of PS3*. Even GTA4 is held back because of PS3 when you look at APB(not even talking about the delay PS3 caused).

[Obama]

lol looks like pog has a nervous breakdown. Keep the comedy comming, clown.

[bababrooks]

power of green, i get what your saying. the only problem i have had is the red ring, but the games make up for that.i do like the ps3 as well, the films look great.

[THC CELL]

mate u are very sad really
I wish i wish i could slap u a few times

PS3 is hard to develop for
B1tches like u b1tch all the time

I mean look at this
Most x box games are rushed

Call of duty is the best m plat- game out there and u no what if it was exclusive to ps3 we would of been flying the chopper and maybe land transport BUT no cause that will never work on a 360 game cause b!tches like u need them to look the same well

Metal gear could of been on xbox But again look It never worked

Gta exclusive to ps3 would of been million times better
Rockstar has not seen the true power of ps3 yet
I do hope they show that in The next gta
then again we may see soon to be failed xbox 720 (take in mind ps3 is 10 years future proof )

At end of the day POG all the developers will say ps3 is Hard bla bla
but it turns out when they never rush to fill there banks
PS 3 is better

[Xlll]

Sorry i don't very reply on here but seeing this i had to.
Capcom had to dumb it down due to 360 users not being used to the difficulty setting of the other DMC's cuz they were
for PS2. So thanks to this game being made on the 360 i had to play a DMC this easy.

Goto hell and shut up.

[Xlll]

bubbles for u

[poos3]

POG UR RIGHT MGS 4 LOOKS SO OUTDATED it like the built the tech for 2007 games as it looks brown and excatly the same as assins creed except assins is an open world mgs is slighty linear . just look t thos screens of mgs and look at gears of war screens and then ull laugh at sony fans gears of war 2 makes this game look like a joke just the polygons used on 1 character on gears the detail leaves mgs 4 devs wanting for more but tbh i dont blame them ALL JAPANESE GAMES THIS YEAR FROM CAPCOM,KONAMI,ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN SUBpar in terms of graphics also lets not forgot hideo kojima has hired a westerner to make this game and its tue his vision i think that will evnetually help mgs4 but it maybe for the bad as mgs4 could become an allout third person shooter

[Ali_The_Brit]

actualy PS3 had a very very minor role in its delay R* said that themselfs, infact the most reason was because they where working on and improving the multiplayer.

[Varsarus]

We see more of the ps3's potential with the exclusives, POG doesn't seem to understand that his "beloved" console is holding back the advancements of gaming by including a sh!t disk format, and possibly other stuff that the 360 is incapable of (realistic animations, lightning), & why do you criticise mgs4 when the game hasn't even gone gold yet? Idiot.

Capcom actually mean't that they will now understand the ps3 better, it won't be "tricky" for them all the time now, and please, tell me your joking with that quote. Hell even Epic knows the secrets with the ps3.

http://www.gamepro.com/sony...

& again same as Capcom with Rockstar, they will now understand the ps3 better too.

[wAtdaFck]

I've never seen this error

*knocks on wood

[bababrooks]

you may when the big games hit! yawn.

[Rice]

" yo dude, i just got a 80010514 yesterday night playing my ps3 "

[ElementX]

Time will tell how long Bluray drives will last. I mean, they could end up having a serious problem and break down after a couple years due to it being new hardware and people haven't stress tested it for years yet. I however, don't believe it will be a serious problem, but I do think Sony will get calls of faulty hardware that breaks after the warranty period. For all we know, these blue diodes might die after a couple years, only time will tell.

[ElementX]

What are your reasons for disagreeing? Because Sony built it?

[Baliw]

http://forum.lowyat.net/ind...

Go to BD/DVD setting and disable

1. Disc auto start - OFF
2. BD internet connect - Confirm

[Warbletot]

PS3 owners: Does the code 80010514 mean anything to you?

Means nothing to me, and probably nothing to %99.99 of PS3 owners. :)

[Alcohog]

Never heard of it.

[Clinton514]

I've heard of this "code"

[Spike47]

funniest comment this month:
"Sony needs to learn to make better hardware"
my reaction: :0

LOL, are you referring to the PS1,PS2, ? The 1 or 5% failure rate of the PS3.
Sorry, but Sony has been the leader of gaming for 2 gens all because of the quality of their systems.

MS on the other hand has to make better hardware and software, I mean look at Vista, :( ( I have it, it's a pain in the neck)
Look at the xbox360's famous RROD

[InYourMom]

I don't even believe you owned a PS2. The drive problems were so bad they actually had to file a class action lawsuit and Sony still snubbed everyone.

[ReBurn]

I know, right? My first PS2 died from the DRE 4 months after I bought it. Sony refused to fix it unless I paid for it. For the cost at the time I figured I'd be better off buying a new one since it was like $190 total to have it fixed and shipped.

My second PS2 also died from DRE. My third one is still alive and kicking, though.

[BlueBadger]

It was like 4 months after i got my ps3, which was last year's easter. One day i tried putting a disc in, and alas the ps3 wouldnt read it. So i thought it was the disc itself, so i inserted another game and it would take about 4 minutes to read the disc, but then when i selected it on the xmb it would give me the error code. DVDs didnt work either.

On a plus side, customer service was just fine and i got another two weeks after. Bad luck I suppose, but like others said, it was the optical drive most likely.

i wouldnt say it is a serious problem tho...a few hiccups in production here and there are expected.

[eagle21]

1-800-I-NEEDED-A-DAMN-SHRINK-2 -FREAKIN-WEEKS-AGO

operators are waiting frantically to assist your very personal and major mental concerns.

dude. scary.

lol :)

[freeluv]

I've had the 60gb from launch day and i've never seen this error, or pretty much any other error other than getting signed out of the playstation network when i have my media server on. It does look familiar to me when my psp couldnt access my ps3 through remote play before the last couple of updates. but thats about it. but no life threatening errors from my household.

[alan001]

NEVER HEARD OF IT AND SEEN IT BEFORE

[hotshot127]

the comments in this article are too funny.lol i dont know what 2 say about it. im going to be honest, i know ONE person who has had thier ps3 fail on them. and i know plenty of people.....finally..........wi th ps3's. and @powerofgreen. HE IS ON A ROLE...........haahahaha

quick note to 360 fanboys, I DONT COMMENT ON HERE ANYMORE BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT NOW THAT THE 360 PS3 WILL WIN THIS BATTLE JUDGING FROM MONTLY SALES AND I REALLY DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT ANYMORE. i just like watching people like POWEROFGREEN, ELEMENTX, THE MART talk nonsense.

if you guys havent noticed, alot of 360 fanboys left this site, and its NOT because thier playing games. its because they were smart enough to realize that they were speaking foolishness the whole time. when are you going to follow suit, POWEROFGREEN?

[InYourMom]

For defending their console from a bunch of slander? I wonder if you would of given this same lecture to PS3 fanboys at the launch or in the first year?

Like it or not, these failures are real and you can deny it all you want(thats what the xbots did when the RROD happened) but eventually the truth is going to come out. Sony can't hide like they did with the shoddy PS2 hardware problems thanks to the internet.

I do agree however this isn't on the level at all with RROD.. yet.. you never know. Thing's break, these are complicated electronic devices lots of little things that can go wrong. I find it funny the similarity in that the drive in the PS3 seems to be the major issue and has an eary resemblence to the PS2 early days.

POG is just giving back a taste of the droids own medicine. The PS3 better run like Jesus himself after all the crap that has been thrown at the 360 and it's hardware. If not, prepare to taste that bitter pill.

[BLUR111]

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[Obama]

PS3 will never have 33% failure rate like the 360. Every report says the failure rate is well within 1%. Does the problem exist? May be, but only 1 out of 100 people has this problem.

[texism]

@ "Obama"

The 360 NEVER had a 33% failure rate. I so easy how people believe sh!t they want to believe. That number was from a blog post from some anonymous employee. I know the 360 failure rates are higher than industry standards, but they are NOT 33%. One company did some research and came up with an 8% failure rate (industry standard is 5% i believe). Only Microsoft knows the failure rate really.

[captainpwn]

And she plays an XBox...

[LiquifiedArt]

Does it really exist? i got a day 1 60 gig :D

[PimpHandHappy]

but that doesnt mean its not real

normal fail rates for eltronics is 3-5%

tell the truth my PS3 has been running loud after only 7 hours of straight running. Its running nice right now as i type this and im using it as my music player but I have noticed of late that after long runs of gaming it gets loud....most times after its on for 7-12 hours.

[t-0_ot-]

Same here.. But, it doesn't seem to cause any problems.. At least that I haven't noticed..

[PimpHandHappy]

about open zone

its good to see it with strong post numbers because this is just the flamebait that the Fre3fixme crowd is desperate for

enjoy

[PimpHandHappy]

wont be something we hear about

it doesnt have the same ring to it as

RED RINGS OF DEATH

now thats catchy

[jiinn]

That is why it is called Code of Death.

Error Code 80010514, the PS3 Code of Death.

[PimpHandHappy]

you know that disk read error was a easy fix right? Did you not crack it open and turn that wheel? I know ppl fear cracking open systems but if your read up about it you would have known its easy and faster then sending it in

i own 3 PS2's. I fixed the DRE myself on both my big systems and the slim has traveled with me and is still going strong

[aiphanes]

They exist but are not available to the public yet..

http://www.jr.com/JRProduct...

http://boardsus.playstation...

[wallace1000]

Isn't the failure rate for all electronics 3% on average? There are bound to be PS3s that die. This post could easily turn into a fanboy fest!

[jiinn]

The reports are clearly showing the Code of Death is occuring in more than "the industry average".

Nice try.

[OJ_juice]

Guys it doesn't matter, it still not as bad as RROD.

[wallace1000]

I agree that it isn't as high, but it isn't like it is a competition :-P

[kingjkv]

Sorry to hear this i own both consoles and I heard this news when i was watching a Blu ray movie on my PS3 while frying my eggs on my....we ll u know what.

[Milky]

Haaa haaa your funny...

[t-0_ot-]

It seems Sony always has problems with all the drives they use.. I've had so many problems with their previous equipment not being able to read any disks.. But, good thing everything else seems to work like a charm. But, they really need to get their drives to the top notch mark like everything else..

I've had 2 PS2's that stopped reading any type of disk and 4 ps1's that stopped reading disks and also had a DvD player from Sony that stopped reading disks.. Well, my PS3 is working great so far, so, hopefully it's just a bad batch of PS3's or somethin..

[JackBauerIsHIGH]

Personally, I've had one PS3 crap out on me because my HDMI port stopped working after an update. My Xbox360 is still running fine. I just don't use it because I am afraid of it breaking someday. This could be a problem but it's a very small percentage and it will never be at a scale of the RROD.

[jiinn]

Why do you say that?

Now, after a year, the PS3 is finally shipped into the hands of more than a few people. That is why the articles are saying "increasing reports", that is why the forums on playstation.com has started to grow with reports (and Sony shut it down...).

The PS2 had _many_ issues, including a lot of problems with the drives.

Sony has a history of consoles with drive problems.

The problems with the Xbox 360 didnt manifest themselves until after enough units had shipped, and in mid-2007, they made hardware changes to resolve the heat-issues.

Now that the PS3 has been "in the wild" for about a year, the kinks are starting to get reported.

The Code of Death isnt exactly a suprise, this is after all, a new product. Just like the Xbox 360, they'll probably figure out what the problem was and fix it. That doesnt mean it didnt happen.

now lets see if Sony extends the warranty and stops charging its customers $150 to fix this design flaw.

[hunggago]

I will never trust anything coming from destructoid.com
As I recalled, this was the same website that continously bashed the PS3 during its launch and was one of the first that started the MGS4 going multiplatform rumor. Looks like they are still at it to this day... these guys will never learn.

[Mikey Mike]

the code appears for two reasons. Lag issues online or the blue ray drive needs to be reset. You can fix the problem by holding the eject button down for 30 seconds. If you guys keep your discs clean you should never have another problem.

[dfire1212]

only had a few incidents of freezing up on me

[Kareshi_X]

Yeah im Pretty Sure PS3 Got his share of problems but i know things arnt goin to be expended as the RROD even tho i never had no RROD

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

The Blu has RROD, send it in for repairs boys ..... no wait Sony don't have a service like that XD! The Blu wen't bad because of all the movies they watch.

BDOD "Blu Drive of Death" <---I like that

[redaxis]

But mine had issue on the optical unit last month. It stopped detecting disc in the concole and showed an error code (can't remember what code is that tho), and i sent it back for warranty. It has returned, and i guess the technician did something more than just replacing the optical part becoz my ps3 is now significantly running cooler than before.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Bunch of sweaty nervous hands stuck to thier mice on this one.

This has been going on for a while, Sony will try and sweep it under the rug like they did with the PS2. They should just be honest and come out and extend the warrenty for BDOD (Blu Drive of Death)

[Booyah]

....compare it to the failure rates of the 360 and we'll talk, ok ?

[MaximusPrime]

RRoD sounds better that BDoD

[crippler666]

Calling shananigans on this, not saying that there may not be a few PS3's that are going wrong, but they are making this sound way worse than it is.

I know fanboy's will love this, Xbox fanboys - will claim that the PS3 is as bad as the 360's problems and Sony fanboys - will claim that it is no where near as bad as 360 problems.

IMHO things get blown out of proportion all the time. This is just some people trying to make Sony look bad. I have had my PS3 for nearlly a year now and the only problem that I have ever had was and is the internet, AOL is just not that good anymore and I will be changing soon so that problem will soon be gone.

[cherrypie]

Shananigans? Man, wake up.

There are reports all over about this. Its not new, its not simply Destructoid publishing this story.

Sheesh, do you always invent your own reality?

[xg-ei8ht]

It is due to the firmware or game download, its nothing to do with hardware idiots.

Its already been said in another thread the reason, basically a corrupt download. of either game or firmware.

And likely due to wireless or other connection problems.

Data should be verified because installation anyway.

Sony just needs to keep an eye on this.

[CrazedFiend]

Must be an isolated problem...just like the RRoD.

...

Oh, wait...

[DriftMax]

so the ps3 has a 1 to .0% defect rate and the 360 has upwards of 33%. Now there are going to be fake reports of this sh*t everyday from all the sad xbots that cant get over the fact the ps3 works more then a couple of weeks.

Ohhh yeaa

[fablib]

We cannot hide that PS3 has many software and technical issues.
I am sure that software issues will be solved thanks to future firmware…
Instead, I am very concerned about the hardware failures related to blu-ray driver…
Give a look to this article. It is just a blog, but the analysis are actually true:

http://videogame-market.blo...

[God of Gaming]

So odd to see these stories pop up today. My PS3 which is only 5 months old (40 Gig version) just stopped reading any sort of Disc yesterday... Not sure what I am going to do without my MLB The Show fix I need to satisfy every day but it certainly is a let down. I await my coffin from Sony.

I really think the 40 Gig versions were skimped on in order to get the price down... I am regretting not going with the 80 gig now.

[MaximusPrime]

i have a same PS3 since March 07 (UK release) Still working well.

I never seen that number before.

[HardcoreGamer]

Where have all the 360 fanboys come from???? all of a sudden

[juuken]

Idek.

[Britjadg]

"In the last two months, a very worrying trend has surfaced.
On the web, a huge and an increasing number of PS3 owners start to report the death of their favourite console. The causes, seem directly linked to Blue-ray drives that suddenly refuse to read discs.
The begin of this alarming phenomenon starts last November when the Belgian retailer “Games Mania” stated that the 40% of PS3 sold have been returned due to hardware problems primarily related to the system being unable to read discs, Blue-ray or otherwise.
Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, at the time, with an immediate press release, tried to hide and cover the truth behind the problem strongly denying the accuracy of the data, adding: “(we) are disappointed that such extremely sloppy journalism has resulted in this totally inaccurate story”"

yeah its a great blog, have only pulled off the first two paragraphs and its about as credible as my left nut. the guy has no understanding of the basic principles of the english language such as spelling and sentence strucuture AND is biased. i could understand if the dude said "Sony has raised serious doubts over the accuracy of this data" but no..... appparent they "tried to hide and cover the truth". SIGH

i have seen nothing here that convinces me this is a major hardware problem. as usual its run of the mill speculation. ps3 and wii are both well within hardware failure anomolies (both under 3%). currently xbox's RROD stands @ 17%...thats 3 1/2 million consumers fuked over by ms's hardware. but whatever, by all means continue comparing the two. While your at it, why dont we bring up the chargable life of the ps3 controller again....that was at least comical.

and "blu drive of death?" you xbots sense a bandwagon and just jump on dont you? love it.

[wow4u]

"The begin of this alarming phenomenon starts last November when the Belgian retailer “Games Mania” stated that the 40% of PS3 sold have been returned due to hardware problems primarily related to the system being unable to read discs"

Read YOUR own post, I've copied it above. now, tell me how the following makes sense:

"i have seen nothing here that convinces me this is a major hardware problem"

?????????????

[SL1M DADDY]

Nope. Launch system here and no bad news to report.

[CNIVEK]

...for my 360, mfd 8/24/05, and never had a hiccup. That doesn't mean SQUAT for those that HAVE had problems though...and the same goes for PS3 owners.

[HardcoreGamer]

well if you asking that way, Japan launch system here, and i had this error trying to play Tekken dark ressurection on my 15 year old crt.

that error is really nothing.

[Funky Town_TX]

What does the PS3 breaking have to do with the 360 breaking? What does the 360 breaking have to do with the PS3 breaking? I would be pissed if my console did not work. I don't have a PS3 ( no games I want yet) but I would think that the hardware Sony is using is not as bad as what M$ is using.

[thexmanone]

It looks like since the PISS3 fanboys are finally getting some software to run, there Pisstation can`t handle it.

Warning owning a pisstation for more than one year will bring on the BROD.

[DFresh]

I've had that pop up once but then I realized I wasn't signed in to my account avatar.
Just restart your PS3 and It'll work fine.
It's not a big deal to get all worried about it's just a brain fart your machine is having.

[SKullDugger]

It says a small % not 30%+ like on the 360 and the 360 has other issues besides the most famous one. DVD drive failures,bad video cards,bad scaler chips and HDD issues MS has more then one problem and its a high % just go to XBOX.COM and read the hardware threads. The truth is there.

[wow4u]

No one in their right mind thinks the Xbox 360 fails at "30%". That number came from an anonymous gamestore employee in Australia.

There is no evidence, or data that supports that number.

SquareTrade, the 3rd party warranty firm is the only non-MS _data_ on failures. They said about 8% general-hardware failure. They said 16% claims rate (claims != general hardware failure).

So, if you want to talk about the relative PS3 vs. Xbox 360 failures, yes, the early Xbox 360 has shown to have heat issues, and the PS3 has been relatively stable. But at least try and be realistic and take off your fanboy blinders, you're talking out your anus.

Luckily, Xbox 360 underwent major motherboard changes in mid-2007 to fix the heat issues. And, anyone who has a problem gets a free fix.

New machines dont have to worry about those early heat issues.

Now, if only Sony would treat its customers as well as Microsoft, I could exchange the 3 broken PS2s I have in my closet for fixed ones.

[Varsarus]

Scratching disks is another BAD issue with the 360's inferior hardware, it happened to me once with my stupid Elite.

[brothersimon]

Only retards manage to move their 360 and have it scratch their discs..

[PSh1t3]

u must be pretty dumb then, varsarus. but who didn't know what?

[Lord Vader]

Lol, The Blu Ring of Death ?

Never heard of it...

[Infolite8907]

PoG, every 360 owner has jumped out(almost all of them) and played beyond and continues to play beyond. Come now your support for an almost dead system is sickening. "I'm PoGMart and I've jumped in!" Well why don't you jump out now. (I think the heat your 360 is producing is making you delusional, eh mate) lol.

[texism]

Lol. No we don't, and no we haven't. PS3 fanboys always keep saying this "come and play beyond" crap. Have you sees software sales? We're not playing beyond lol. We are just tired of trying to reason with you guys since you just choose to believe anything that is negative 360 news, whether it is true or not. You guys were in the same position last year with the onslaught of stupid 360 fanboys, but it didn't mean you jumped in.

[elmont82]

PS3 Error Codes.

Error Code what does it mean Resolution
80410A0B Internal PSP error, hardware failure, this is due to improper installation of firmware. You need to contact Sony’s replacement hotline because you are going to be without your ps3 for about 2 ½ weeks.
000F0000 You have been disconnected from game server
000A1000 Disconnected from server, reboot your modem or router this should fix that problem
80710102 DNS Error Most of the time this error can be resolved by simply, with resetting the network settings.
8002F994 To many D/Ls just w8 a while and try again
8001050B Will not play demos off HDD, when Blu-ray is in etc. try it over again, and then take blu-ray out, if doesn’t work restart machine
8002b241 DVI has no audio
80029023 Exchanging Key Information exchange has timed out Try again, reset network settings
80029024 The attempt to obtain an IP address has timed out same as above
80029564 Downloaded Game will not install
8002F997 Can not update XMB firmware
8003051E Game will not Save.
80031150 System Settings Fail to Save - Possible Blue Screen "Setting information is corrupted. Press the x button to repair and restore default"
80130203 PS3 connects to internet but not to network usually means that the required ports are not open to connect to store but PS3 can connect to internet. Go to your router settings via computer, and open ports
80710092 "An error has occurred. You’ve been signed out from the ps network"
80710102 PS3 Cannot connect to the router with current IP information Try rebooting your router
80710541 The connection to the server timed out.
80710B23 PS3 Network is down, or PS3 Network is too busy to respond look at 8002F994
80710D23 Turn the PS3 off for a bit (30 minutes give or take) with the power toggle (not standby mode).
80029024 Cannot Obtain an IP address network settings
80028EA5 Unknown User cannot connect to PS3 network Sony told the user to send the machine in
8002b241 - DVI has no audio
8002F997 Trying to Update the Firmware, copying to a file and installing from a USB drive failed", copy file back to USB again
80710016 Playstation Network is down.
8013013E WEP Key error change WEP key to all numbers (on router homepage) and try again, or switch to WPA.
8071053D Hard boot the PS3, turn off the PS3 to stand-by, flip off the back switch and remove the power cord. Then shut off your modem/router, for about 5 minutes, then turn the modem back up first and let it sync, then turn the router back on(if using one) and let it sync. Reconnect your power cable and flip the back switch up again. Then make a new network connection.
8013030F SSID broadcasting possibly off, Check Router Page.

[Bizmal]

My first release Ps3 still works fine. However it's my 5th 360. It's funny that some one would compare some thing that is so MASSIVE, HUGE, CRAZY, The HIGHEST defective RATE on the planet to the ps3. I still use my Ps3 but my 360 was a waste of money. I don't pay for live becuase it's way too over rated. My xbox sits there collecting dust.

[wow4u]

Like hell, thats some serious FUD you got there buddy. I dont believe you for a second.

[texism]

This is your 5th 360 so WHAT? Who the fuk care honestly? Can you discuss the article at hand please? No one asked you about your 360.

[sleepbox]

I went through 4 PS2s for either dirty disk errors or the disk drive not working with no errors. So, yea, Sony makes crappy disk drives. Not like they are going to all-of-the-sudden up the quality for PS3.

[cl63AMG]

no problems here...

[wow4u]

For all the issues the Xbox 360 had at launch, thankfully they made many revisions to the motherboard to fix the heat issues in mid-2007.

And, anyone who has a problem gets a free fix.

Now, lets see if Sony treats its customers as well as Microsoft does.

[MartyMagoo]

Mine's been fine for three months and just this week it's gone pear shaped. None of the blu-ray discs will play for longer than 5 minutes. Sometimes I can get to the game but then the sound goes off or a menu doesn't appear so the blu-ray drive for me is the problem.

My mate said he had it happen to him about 3 months ago after 1 day of using it. so Im not sure if it's the way the firmware downloads whether it's causing the firmware to be faulty or it's just a random problem with the blu-ray drives.

I called Sony yesterday, the problem happened on Monday. The fella said they'd have a new one to me on Monday next week (It's reconditioned and tested, not brand spanking new) So I assume they are looking into the problem. For the amount of PS3's that are sold the figure isn't that big but not everyone goes on the internet to post about it so it could be a lot more.

There's a few videos on Youtube for the sake of whether it exists or not.

[djroberts]

While this error isn't common Sony does a horrible job of explaining to people what's happening. They just say "send in your PS3 for a replacement". They will never admitt to bugs, firmware problems, etc... Remember the whole blu-ray playback pausing problems? They still have not admitted to that and yet it suddenly went away with a firmware update.

[texism]

Yeah yeah, the 360 has issues. But this article wasn't about the 360's failures was it? I like how the Sony fanboys try to bring up 360 RROD even when it has nothing to do with this article, instead of talking about the article itself and what the code means.

[Brixxer600]

80710092 "An error has occurred. You’ve been signed out from the ps network"

This is the only error i've seen, it's happened a few times but only when playing R6V2

Bottom line is that there is obviously a problem with some machines, it may not be in the same kind of numbers as MS RROD (which i'm glad to say that my launch day 360 has never had) but a problem there is.If Sony admit to it then the "fanboys" have a field day and if they don't admit to it then,..............the "fanboys" have a field day, if anyone has had this error code then i'm interested to hear what kind of customer service you received from Sony.

[MartyMagoo]

The customer service was pretty sparce.

They asked me a few question in regards to the Playstation i.e Is it stored in a well ventilated environment? How many games have you tested? were they clean? Just general questions. After these questions the fella said to me, What we can do is send you a replacement. I knew he'd advice that anyway which was all well and good. I asked him if he had any idea why this was happening as I've read a fair bit about this error and he really had no answer for me, all he said was he wasn't sure and it could be a number of things so on that side of things, not too specific so perhaps Sony are not too sure.

Overall customer service is good. Just wanted a bit more feedback on why the problem was occuring but I am getting a replacement within 3 working days so all in all pretty pleased about that.

[Brixxer600]

Good to know that they're replacing it quick and easy, also proves that they know there is a problem (however big or small it may be).

I've always been very hard and quite negative towards Sony because to me they're as bad as MS, WalMart, etc etc, it's all about the money obviously, i've had crappy service from them in the past particularly with PS2 issues, so it's good to know if my PS3 was to go on the blink that they're getting better to deal with(it better not).

[tk]

Very few problems reported about the PS3. And we don't know of someone with a broken PS3 - send back to get the next one broken out of box or break in the next week. XB360 this seems to be the norm...

Very popular news item... must be desperate people to get on to a PS3 error...

[djroberts]

Why is this idiot saying the problem is simular to the RROD then later he says in all fairness the number of people with it is no where near the RROD?

Dumb article.

[Brixxer600]

Off topic but can anyone tell me why my PS3 keeps resetting to factory defaults ?, it's really starting to annoy me, if i use it every day then it's fine but if i leave it off more than 24 hours it resets.

[PSh1t3]

Uh oh, looks like PS3 is finished.

[t-0_ot-]

Well, now that's not nice. =p

[brothersimon]

PSfail

[ScottEFresh]

LOL WOW!!!!!!!! you bots don't waste ANY time eh....so fuking pathetic.

[t-0_ot-]

ScottEFresh - Hahahaa.. Wow. I didn't expect to see that message coming from you.. You wanna know something? It's actually not that hard to comprehend. So what do ya say? No? Oh well, to bad. Now, since I know your all outta bubbles, if you need anything cleared up just PM me. But, please for both of our sake just try to keep up, and I DO understand that your slow.. but I'm just asking you to try. So, anyway, here we go..

This article is listed as xBox 360 *AND* PS3. So both xbox fanboys AND Ps3 fanboys will be in this article.. But, if you go looking in a PS3 *ONLY* article, you may see only one or two xbox fanboys in there.. Now, if you go looking in a xBox 360 *ONLY* article, then you will see the fcking Sony "military" in there... And, that's not even HALF of the PS3 fanboys that visit an xBox 360 *ONLY* area.

And Below - "the #s show the 360 is by far the worse product" What numbers? Hardware sales? Software sales? The software sales just prove that the xBox is more popular and liked, as far as games go. They sale almost as much as the Wii does and the Wii has a helluva lot more consoles sold than the 360 does... And, hardware sales? What's to prove that the PS3 isn't just being sold to consumers as a Blu-Ray player.. It's being advertised as "The cheapest Blu-Ray" at my local Best-Buy. People that are looking to buy a new Blu-Ray player see that and buy a PS3 cause it's the cheapest Blu-Ray on the market.. And, software sales kinda prove that it is being sold as a Blu-Ray player and not a gaming console..

[ScottEFresh]

Oh my goodness. I never thought the bots would stoop this low but...oh wait a minute yes I did what am I talking about. They NEED something like RRoD for the PS3 for them to be able to win the console war now. Not happening! I don't even know why they still try.

You can make up news stories and blow things out of proportion all you want. The end of the day the #s show the 360 is by far the worse product with horror stories ALL OVER the internet. A few people have problems with the PS3 and this XBOT site (destructoid.com - full of bots) is trying to make it sound like a million people have had this error. PLEASE!

[Microshaft]

AHAHAHHAHAHAHA THE PS3 FAILS, FAILS!!!!!!! ITS SLOWLY DIEING YOUVE ALL MADE A MISTAKE OF BUYING THIS HUNK OF JUNK MEDIA BOX!!!! SHOWS HOW CR@P AND OVERHYPED BLU RAY IS AHAHAHA SONY DROIDS CAN SUCK MY @@@@@@@SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSS!!!

[brothersimon]

lolololololololoollo

BILL GATE IS THE FUTURE WORLD LEADER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[cherrypie]

Its pretty funny watching the PS3 guys try and squirm. These 80010514 Error Code of Death reports arent exactly new.

If you only spend your time on N4G you'd never know that of course, because the news here has to pass the phalanx of Sony zealots.

But, this Code of Death news started last year. Hell, these guys reported "40% Failure Rate for 40GB PS3s" last November. http://www.gamer.tm/news.ph...

You guys need to stop looking for Sony circle-jerk websites and try reading more newsites.

[liquidsnake]

This error does NOT exist. It's made up by xbutts.

[juuken]

It saddens me how 360 fanboys are trying to make this situation worse than it is. All of these errors are mostly software related. I had a PS3 since 2007 and I barely had any problems at all. Now if M$ had a problem that was around the 1% range like Sony, then I would get one. But they don't so...yeah.

The reason why the RROD was brought up, is because of the fact that it was #1 mentioned in the article, and #2, fanboys decided to come here to cause trouble.

And I don't trust that site destructoid either.

[dfcm2003]

Notice the topic heading, "Does it mean anything to you"

LOL not to me, I never had this problem?

[Xlll]

agreed that code means nothing to me. to bad those MS kids still need to pack that "console" they got in a white box every other week /sheds tear......

[pshizle]

blows get out sony fanboys

[Xlll]

Sorry but until the PS3 starts failing left right and center like the 3shitty you should just stay quite

[pshizle]

PoS2 had disc read error.

PoSP comes out of the box brand new with dead pixels.

the laptop batteries that overheated and stared fires a year ago were sony.

now this