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Xbox One vs PS4 Reality Check

As Microsoft continues to dig their own grave, the ever lasting ‘console war’ has flared up with people declaring winners right out of the gate. With that, the Daily Reaction crew of Seb and Dan takes a step back and points out that, while MS might be covered in dirt at the moment, they haven’t picked out a headstone just yet.

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doctorstrange3955d ago

Yup, they'll both survive. I know which one I'll choose first, but they'll both survive.

Godmars2903955d ago

Will only appeal to gamers. Internet literate gamers.

cleft53955d ago

That sleek Ouya design, too good. Can't wait to play the latest and greatest Nintendo emulators.

morganfell3955d ago

"...while MS might be covered in dirt at the moment, they haven’t picked out a headstone just yet."

When you die in this business you do not pick out your own headstone. It's picked for you by the crowds watching other people kick dirt on your corpse.

BitbyDeath3955d ago

Is it still a console war when MS are the only ones shooting... at themselves?

Sure Sony occasionally point out a few of the bodies but as far as wars go... :-/

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Speider3955d ago

Yup. With the price disparaties and all that jazz when 360 and PS3 launched, they both did good.

As different releases attract different audiences for both bachines, the "war" will continue to ebb and flow, and both systems will sell. I hope to god that both/all three systems have healthy cycles, so the competition doesn't stop. THAT would be a tragedy.

thehitman3955d ago

Key difference between 360 and ps3 and xb1 and ps4 is... people bought the 360 because it was first of the HD gen and playstation has too much of a following for people not to get it with the largest gaming library. Xb1 however has nothing going for it not specs not price not gaming library or policies. This gen has like 160mil between 360/ps3 I expect the same next gen but ps4 making up like 100mil compared to xb1 60mil. Therer will be competition and I dont think xbox will die off next gen but it wont be nearly as even as this gen.

JodyCones3955d ago

Yup getting both because i like playing all games. But definitley the PS4 first, already preorded it.

rainslacker3955d ago

I think calling the outright doom of any console is just silly. I wouldn't even call the Wii U doomed despite it's current troubles, and it's a released system.

Long haul, Xbox will probably make MS money. It may not achieve everything they hope to achieve however, and that's to take over the living room. In this regard, the X1 may be a failure for MS, even if it's profitable. The Xbox 360 took them pretty far to achieve their overall goal, and they did quite well this gen in that regard by establishing a huge install base. But if that adoption has a negative trend and doesn't see the adoption of the "living room" crowd, it won't be what they want it to be.

Overall, I do think the X1 will be a good gaming machine with a lot to offer, I just don't feel it offers enough for me to go out and buy it day one. Some of the games look good, and I want to play them, but not at the expense of the console, or the addition of some features which actually turn me off of the system.

devwan3955d ago

"Long haul, Xbox will probably make MS money."

Interesting forecast - what makes you think ms' xbox division will turn it around this generation? Since its inception it has always been in the red.

rainslacker3954d ago

I can't say what they have to turn around because I'm not aware of what "always in the red" the Xbox division has seen since it's inception. It's had bad quarters, but overall it's been profitable.

The Xbox division doesn't perform as well as the rest of MS, which is why some analyst say MS should dump it, but if it hadn't been profitable for the past 12 years, we wouldn't be seeing a new console from them. MS first turned a profit on the Xbox in 2008, BTW. Google is your friend.

However, when I say it will be profitable for MS overall, I am speaking of the fact that they have multiple revenue streams available to them through the Xbox. Game licensing fees, peripheral profits, Live, licensing deals with content providers, their own first party game sales, etc.

All that may not lead to the success they may be hoping for in achieving their overall goal of owning the living room, hence a failure in the sense of the purpose of the device for MS, but that doesn't mean it won't do well.

Anyone who thinks that the system will flounder out of the gate and be completely gone in a year because of what's going on now needs a reality check.

And I say this as someone who right now hates MS for what they tried to do, and someone who admittedly has a much bigger preference for Sony.

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RetroGqmer3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

You have to laugh at two bit websites, who've been around for five minutes, taking shots at long established, extremely credible gaming magazines like Edge.

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TrendyGamers3955d ago

It's going to be a fun fight to watch.

dedicatedtogamers3955d ago

Ironically, of the two brands (Xbox vs Playstation) only one brand is integral to the survival of their parent company. Only one company will fight tooth and nail to make sure that not only does their videogame console survive, but their gaming division survives, too.

Guess which company that is.

Mystogan3955d ago

Spoiler alert:

It's Sony, they are living of off the playstation. Without it, they would die quickly.

ThatCanadianGuy5143955d ago

i'm pretty sure they would do fine without it, Mystogan.

Sony financial services and insurance nets them 9+ Billion a year.

About the same for Sony pictures & Sony Music

theWB273955d ago

@DayZ
You couldn't possibly be that naive. Over the past 5 years the Playstation has been about the only thing keeping them afloat.

http://kotaku.com/5960411/h...

http://www.develop-online.n...

Please do some research.

ThatCanadianGuy5143955d ago (Edited 3955d ago )

Please do some research indeed.

"Its financial arm accounts for 63 percent of Sony’s total operating profit last year. Life insurance has been its biggest moneymaker over the last decade, earning the company 933 billion yen ($9.07 billion) in operating profit in the 10 years that ended in March.

Sony’s film and music divisions, which produced hits like the Spider-Man movies and “Zero Dark Thirty” and recorded musicians like the cellist Yo-Yo Ma and the electronic music duo Daft Punk, have contributed $7 billion to the company’s bottom line over the last decade.

In that time, Sony’s electronics division(Which Playstation is part of) has lost a cumulative $8.5 billion."(Mostly due to their marketshare loss of TV's)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013...

I mean really, if you're going to try and reply to me with some half-baked, snarky comment, at least put some minimal effort into it.Playstation keeping sony afloat? Really? It's their other sectors keeping their electronics division afloat, plain and simple.

AceBlazer133955d ago

@Mystogan dumbass sony doesn't live off playstation wouldn't be surprised if it was a burden to them.xbox plays a bigger role to microsoft though

devwan3955d ago

No, you're both wrong. They have both lost their parent companies money.

ftwrthtx3955d ago

In any console war, it is the gamers that win.

Godmars2903955d ago

All we got this gen were FPS, FPS with other game elements, and retro titles as people got tired of FPS.

This gen saw the death of 2D gaming, as well as the crippling of RPGs, flight sims and arcade games as main titles. Maybe with the nex gen diversity in gaming genres might make a comeback, but I currently doubt it.

SegaSaturn6693955d ago

I'm as disappointed as you are by the lack of non nintendo super robot wars games. But this generation is supposed to have a much shorter development period and only 3 more ff13 spinoffs.

Fireseed3955d ago

@SegaSaturn669

Shorter dev cycle? Have you any idea how much more detail we got to put into these things before we finish? Not only quality has been upped but now that both consoles have 50gb Blu-Rays for their media, the amount of it has only increased as well.

Campy da Camper3955d ago

Depends. For me, I really enjoyed Infamous, Little Big Planet, Portal, Oblivion, Fallout and other games. I used to be big on fps like rainbow 6 and I agree they grew stale. There are some great games this gen though.

Imalwaysright3955d ago

Is that why MS tried to implement draconian policies? Console wars only benefit us if the big 3 understand and listen to what we want. I still don't know what the hell MS was thinking. They almost killed the Xbox brand.

@ Godmars290 Couldn't agree more. This gen was definetely the worst. No creativity, no variety and overall less quality. Not only that but we had to deal with publishers/devs trying to nickle and dime us at every turn while they were releasing broken games left right and center.

Cueil3955d ago

look a completely unbiased site

MysticStrummer3955d ago

Did you read it?

What did they say that was biased?

They're saying don't count MS out.

MysticStrummer3955d ago

@Neo - I automatically saw sarcasm. My bad. *hangs head in shame*

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest3d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN3d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan3d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor2d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic2d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv722d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares3d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv723d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka3d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion3d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer3d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow13d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer3d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar3d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast3d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning773d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning773d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning773d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast3d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning773d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast2d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv723d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes3d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv728d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning777d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga7d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv727d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19927d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21837d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan7d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit7d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier7d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan6d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1018d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos8d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-7d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac8d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead7d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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