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The Xbox One wasn't ready for this generation

Did the Xbox One jump the shark on purpose? Or was it trying to pull something more creative out of its hat?

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Hufandpuf3962d ago

I don't think the gaming world were ready because we are not technically on that level yet. There are still some people out there with unreliable internet and a vast majority with no internet at all. Connecting everyone together is an amazing idea, but one that isn't ready for us yet. I would've liked to see what MS would do with their ideas, but they were slammed to the ground before it could take off because of the consumer's fear and the companies obligation to provide for the consumer.

Soldierone3962d ago

Its not broken. They patched it out, but then went "well games will still do it."

Instead of saying its always online, they say "games use the cloud," now. Just look at anything they talk about.

I think Microsoft would have been smarter to ease into it. Make this available, but not 100 percent yet. Let people see the ease of use and then go "okay a majority of you like it, our next update makes it standard."

Hufandpuf3962d ago

"Instead of saying its always online, they say "games use the cloud," now. Just look at anything they talk about."

Well, yeah because MS pitched the DRM to the publishers, so of course the devs would produce games according to the Console policy. But now that the DRM is gone, I hope the devs don't get lazy and refuse to take advantage of the cloud's benefits to maximize profit return.

komp3962d ago

Folks have to look at the unique features and contemplate the value of the features vs cost involved.

From a gamer perspective all I care about is the games.
, the rest I already have at a press of a remote button.

PsychOff3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

"consumer's fear and the companies obligation to provide for the consumer."

Yea I will just stop you there. Especially the consumer part, Microsoft didn't change their stance because people complained.. They changed their policies because they saw how many people weren't going to purchase this Xbox One.

Every poll there was the margins weren't even funny how piss poor they were for the Xbox One.

People complained about the Xbox One's policies before it was even released we knew about it all. Microsoft had plenty of time to cater to the consumer then, they also had plenty of time in between that even after it was announced but they held their ground until they saw first hand themselves how poorly it could sell with these policies.

Being afraid of something is one thing, standing up for what you know is right is a complete different situation. People weren't afraid of Microsoft, they simply weren't going to buy Microsoft's Xbox One and that is why they changed their policy. Not to appeal to consumers but to make sure they can secure our cash..

I am not trying to say who is the best or what but Sony busts their balls for the consumer, even when it is their own mistake, they really don't even have to give anyone shit but they will anyway. Even when they are at their all time low, they still give and give.

If Microsoft was ever in that position I can promise you that it would be far from giving. They only give for their own benefit. Again there is a difference between someone who is sincerely giving with no expectations in return other than good will, versus giving and expecting something out of it.

Microsoft gives and expects, hence why they gave up on their policies and now expect everyone to jump back on the Xbox One ship. They didn't do it out of kindness or to better their name, they did it purely to save their asses.

Hufandpuf3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

This is hard to put in words but I'll try my best.

MS reacting to low X1 sales (Which aren't low) IS also a reaction to consumer complaints. The reason they changed the policy is because of the complaints they were getting not sales. If they wanted to sell more consoles couldn't they just simply lower the price? Instead they just changed the features that the consumers had problems with. Also Selling tons of units was not an issue for MS, every console has a relatively successful launch. But if the stigma of the product is negative from the jump, it'd be harder for MS to sell more units down the line and turn a profit. So I think MS's move was a decision to ensure profit in the long run.

Think about it: The problems people had were fixed and now since MS removed features, it's more profit they gain instead of lose. So even though gamers think it's only a win for them it's also a win for MS because they can be seen as a listening corp. and save money and make money in the process.

Soldierone3962d ago

The cloud is the DRM though.

Sure games are not 100 percent digital now, but that will come back down the road and we will get those sharing features back.

However it will be hard to steal a game that needs the cloud to function. Thats why software developers like Adobe are turning to cloud features. You can lock the disc or put in codes, but those always get broken. Having to connect to a cloud to use the software though has new barriers that will take time to break.

HugoDrax3962d ago

Exactly! students and professionals alike have used and continue to use pirated Autodesk, Adobe, Ms Office software due to the extreme price points.

Eventually, all games will be digital and DRM will return. My thoughts exactly when Adobe announced their design suite would only be accessible through the cloud lol. Soon games will only be accessible in this manner, aka Gaikai.

I still would like to see sharing features amongst XB1 digital downloaded titles, as I would always download my titles instead of running to the local GameStop to purchase a physical copy. People tend to forget that disc can get damaged and have to be replaced. Wouldn't have that concern if we had access to our game library digitally similar to steam service.

AngelicIceDiamond3962d ago

"The Xbox One wasn't ready for this generation."

If it wasn't before then it is now.

slivery3962d ago

Had nothing to do with previous sales. They knew it wasn't going to sell like they hoped so they changed their policy. What is hard to understand that it had nothing to do with our complaints really. We pointed out our problems with the system before it was even released and what did we get from Microsoft?

"Deal with it!"

Now all the sudden that it turned out to be the worst console reveal in history upsetting probably millions of its own fan base alone. Not even being able to compete with the Wii U in terms of appeal which is in a pretty bad spot right now itself as well.

They want to change their policy? I wonder why. Yes I am so sure it was because of our complaints that existed long before it was even announced. I respect you looking on the bright side but sometimes you have to see reality for what it really is and that is the reality of it.

sensor213962d ago

Whats interesting is the ps4 was suppose tohave 4gb of ram but they heard what microsoft was doing not ready tho?

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Kingthrash3603962d ago

imo strictly imo.....the whole drm thing was to win over devs and get more exclusives. piracy is a problem to devs and this was a way to kill the problem and make money in one stroke. the problem was console gamers like freedom and these new policies were too restricting. and like the vid says the internet isnt stable enough to rely on...so yeah greed, restrictions, unreliable service, ads = unhappy consumer that= no profits

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badvlad3962d ago (Edited 3962d ago )

i hate these youtube narrators so lame, didnt even look at the video but i guess

Rhythmattic3962d ago

The Xbox One wasn't ready for this generation "of new casual gamers"

The core is really where its at for a GAMING console...and the core made them listen.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest3d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN3d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan2d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor2d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic2d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv722d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares3d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv723d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka3d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion3d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer3d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow13d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer2d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar3d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast3d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning773d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning773d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning772d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast2d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning772d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast2d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv723d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes3d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv728d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning777d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga7d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv727d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19926d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21837d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan7d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit7d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier6d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan6d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1017d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-7d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac7d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead7d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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