Fez Creator Phil Fish Shakes His Angry Fist at Microsoft’s and Xbox One’s Indie Policies Again

Phil fish is angry at Microsoft again, this time after the news spread that the company has waived the patching fees on Xbox Live, without telling him or basically anyone else, and other elements he finds infuriating.

[phantomexe]

He is not happy with MS.

[Abriael]

Not one bit, that's for pretty damn sure.

[dedicatedtogamers]

Most indies aren't happy with MS.

[MikeMyers]

So that explains why you continue to bash Microsoft every chance you get, you're a indie developer. Makes perfect sense now, otherwise most people would have simply moved on to discuss things they are actually interested in.

Now we will see if Microsoft will allow self-publishing.

[ChozenWoan]

We believe in supporting indie devs as they are gamers just like us who are taking a big step into becoming the next ND or Bungie.

[MarkM]

The question is do you think they care.

[WolfOfDarkness]

No body is happy with MS .

[Aceman18]

What he said about mattricks was funny Lol.

[Concertoine]

there's just no good reason not to embrace indie's. nintendo's doing it, sony's doing it, everyone's doing it because they're lucrative and attract people. microsoft are making a huge mistake shrugging off indies when xbox live's most successful game is minecraft.

[Abriael]

The only reason not to embrace them is (misguided) greed, I'm guessing.

[Fireseed]

Is that like the defacto uninformed go to statement? Greed? I mean I agree that it's utterly stupid Microsoft doesn't allow Indies on their platform as freely as PC, but come on let's be honest it's not greed...

It's just plain old stupidity.

[Concertoine]

well greed would imply they get financial/consumer gain from shunning them. and they don't, it just makes them look worse!

[2cents]

MS really do come across as control freaks, but the big difference is that Sony and Nintendo are true games companies, with Sony there is the added benefit of all of their cool innovations and consumer electronic products, music and film, they are a true entertainment company.

MS is a very different beast, it's all business, operating systems, business software solutions etc, very boring stuff for gamers, with their Xbox division they have tried to be the 'cool' kid on the block but it's hard for us to believe that they are gamers at heart, because there are way to many stiffs in suits behind the scene, clearly out of touch with what we really want. But... They are now finding out the hard way by having to deal with the unashamed onslaught of the community, creators and press. A wake up call I'm sure.

I personally feel that Xbox gained so much ground this current generation that the suits from all other departments at MS have all clambered on to get a slice of the pie. Don't forget, windows media centre was the first attempt of taking over the livingroom with tv, games and computing. But it didn't really kick off, rubbish tv cards, poor reception, people not really getting it, 'pc... In my living room... lol' that was then, but MS's vision has always been to control the livingroom. Obviously the Xbox one was a collective vision to take on iTunes, steam, Sony, Nintendo, tivo, piracy, second hand retailers etc. they wanted to control every aspect of their vision.

The trouble with being a jack of all trades is you end up being a master of none, and considering it is us who put the Xbox on the map, it's hard to accept that MS didn't want to address us first and then the world later. They were speaking to everyone and no one at the same time and they got a collective 'huh' from all of us.

The good thing is that they are not so stubborn that they have dismissed our concerns but have actually stopped and listened, I'd love to know the actual r&d costs they have racked up in the last 8 years planning this genetically modified console, and how much they have lost and subsequently reinvested to redesign their message to us. The amount of work that they must be putting in behind closed door to fix the situation must be sweat inducing. I don't envy their position, but I do commend their readiness to change and further evolve (or devolve) for us, the gamers.

I am waiting for November with great anticipation to be able to know everything that this 'thing' will do. At least we have some excitement leading up to release with all of the news and changes happening constantly at MS. This has to be the most intense time in gaming I have witnessed in all of my years. MS giving self publishing rights would be astounding but I don't think that the collective suits will all be able to let go of the control the have possessed since the introduction of Xbox live arcade.

Interesting times indeed.

[Hellsvacancy]

Is Fez coming to the PS3?

[Abriael]

Not that I know. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some contract with microsoft in place to prevent it.

There's more hope for Fez 2

[Fez]

Been there since 2007 :D

[YNWA96]

Ahh well..... bring back Peter Moore...

[4logpc]

This dude is just never happy

[Abriael]

well, in SOME cases he has reason not to be lol.

[Angeljuice]

Would you be? ( I take it you read his tweets).

[Kingthrash360]

not THAT my friends is how you rant!

[310dodo]

I love this guy!!

He refuses too let Assholes get away with their behavior..

Love it!!!

[CrossingEden]

phil fish is a terrible douchy person outside and inside game development

[TekoIie]

These assholes you speak of? Are you aware they are consumers which would also include yourself?

http://n4g.com/news/1239179...

Not to mention him and Jonathon Blow's pathetic jab at Japanese games which are strongest on the console they now supposedly love.

[swerve121]

Wow he went ham

[porter470]

I wouldn't be surprised if MS pulled his game and black listed him at this rate, his slamming them hard.

[lucidity]

Phil Fish gripes about a lot of things, doesn't he? Comes off as a petulant child.

[Abriael]

He does, doesn't mean he's never right.

[Belking]

That guy drank a case of haterade....lol It's ok phil, life goes on.

[hankmoody]

The idea of charging the devs for a patch simply never made any sense to me whatsoever.

[Skate-AK]

Incentive to not release broken games knowing they could patch them for free. It didn't really work like that those. Broken games still got released.

[CrossingEden]

so how's about that project spark, which may be the best game maker of all time

[Smoovekid]

LittleBigPlanet

[IQUITN4G]

Project Spark though does look quite the step up though

[CrossingEden]

i'm sorry, are you able to create an entire game out of LBP, and the connect that game with other game types and create virtually any type of game, from a first person rpg with dungeons and objectives to a homage for limbo to then creating a tower defense game with A.I. and enemies decided by the play, or how about even a mode where literally walking around creates the ground for the level, with any object ever to have an A.I. and upgrades, LBP is not the greatest level creator ever

[aviator189]

Honestly, this guy pissed me off for his harsh statements toward japanese games. And his recent arrogance makes me like him and fez even less.

[TekoIie]

Lets see if he uses the same excuse he used when made those statements to Eastern games.

"Bu-bu-bu Jonathan Blow says the same!"

He has very little respect and deserves very little in return.

[BattleTorn]

This guy still blaming MS for people not having interest in his game?

[mrmonkeyhumper]

To quote my best friend "Phil Fish can jonathan blow himself" With these two on biard Sony is a BlowFish cess pool. I am so happy to be getting an XO. Keep telling yourselves yours is the best new console, if you say it enough, it may come true.

[TekoIie]

Well said! Although personally I wish Mr Fish could re-enact those incredible AI in COD ;)