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8Bitfix E3 2013: Hands On (or is it Hands Off?) Impressions with the Kinect One

Is the Kinect One worth the extra $100 on the Xbox One's asking price? Find out as we analyze what the Next Gen Kinect One is capable of with a video demonstration that was recorded live at Mirosoft's E3 booth.

Neoninja4013d ago

I'm happy to see a preview about the new kinect, I'm a bit skeptical on it as most are. The first one was okay, but not as good as it should have been. It's looking like this one will be leaps better. I would like to see a few games with some kinect integration to see just how much better it is than the original.

Foxgod4013d ago (Edited 4013d ago )

Yeah me2, despite al the negative concensus, i am actually curious about kinect2.
Didnt care so much about kinect1 as it didnt offer too much to me, but the improved and new features sound fun.

For the rest i dont care about having yet another camera in my house, i own so many devices with camera's. or that do data mining, what gives to add another one.

IIJOSEPHXII4013d ago

I don't think anyone at Microsoft ever read the book "1984" by George Orwell.

Foxgod4013d ago

Whether or not you believe the scenario of that book.
its not something that started with kinect, you are already surrounded by camera's (tablets, phone's, laptops, 3Ds, Vita, etch).

Its really strange that people freak out all of a sudden about something that is already all around us, namely, data mining.
Every device we use that has the least amount of internet capabilities mines data, from our phone, to our pc.

ShwankyShpanky4013d ago

Please familiarize yourself with the concept of "false equivalency."

There are a couple other logical fallacies in your brief "argument," but the above referenced is obnoxiously common.

slapedurmomsace4013d ago (Edited 4013d ago )

@ Fox And what do all of those devices have in common? You can turn them off. Granted you could unplug the console from the wall every time you were done playing..but that...if anyone finds that acceptable in this day in age, than more power to them.

Foxgod4012d ago

Kinect can be turned off,

http://kotaku.com/xbox-ones...

it has a power button, and kinect can be disabled, but then you can only turn it on using the buttons.

besides, does it matter, whenever you use your device (camera, laptop etch) the camera's are on as well, so info is gathered, its nothing new, and it remains bull to attack the XB1 on something everybody already uses.

falviousuk4012d ago

@fox why do you even bother arguinf with them, they are blinded to things like facts, and only regurtitate the negative falswhoods propagated on here.

Its almost as if there was a full on campaign by a certain company to apply as much pressure on negativity towards the xbox one as possible in the run up to launch.

When you actually stop and thing about the features that the xbox one is pushing, there is more to the box and service that what people on here would have you believe.

Yes you can turn off kinect (this sentence will appear blurred to the ps fanboy brigade)

As someone else pointed out elsewhere, what has the PS4 brought to the table, other than more powerful hardware over the PS3. And since when did more power equal better games. State of decay on the 360 is an excellent example of gameplay over graphics.

But again its pointless posting this up as the usual brigade fanboys will continue to pollute these forums, xbox posts in particular.

If they are so disinterested in the system, why do they continue to post time and time again. Makes you wonder what there motives are. paid ?

ShwankyShpanky4012d ago (Edited 4012d ago )

"Kinect can be turned off ... it has a power button"

No, the Xbone has a power button. The Kinect can only be shut "off" via software settings. Software settings can be remotely overridden.

Remote activation doesn't even necessarily need to enter into it. I've got a Samsung DLP HDTV from 2008, and recently it's been a bit buggy, with settings repeatedly reverting themselves to defaults. Hell, when I plug my Win7 laptop into my docking station at work, I often have to re-do the display settings to get the proper dual-monitor and display rotation settings back.

As has been asked over and over (and I'll ask it again over and over)...

If it can be "turned off," why can't it be disconnected?
If it can be "turned off," why can't it be disconnected?
If it can be "turned off," why can't it be disconnected?

Consumer: "I'm not too crazy about this always-online camera and microphone."
MS: "That's okay, you can turn it off."
Consumer: "Great! So if I can turn it off, that means that the system can operate without it, so I'll just unplug it and put it away. One less piece of clutter in my entertainment center."
MS: "Oh no, you can't unplug it."
Consumer: "Why not?"
MS: ... <crickets> ...

P.S. Again: False equivalency. Your comparison is unsound.

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Dr Pepper4013d ago

The only thing I've really seen demoed with the new Kinect (besides when people have just stood in front of it and watched themselves be turned into block figures) was the Fantasia demo at E3. The lag was quite noticeable. I'm not exactly sure what the person playing was doing besides making fireworks appear, but there was such noticeable lag that it seemed like it would affect the experience negatively.

I'm not sure why they would show the game in that state. Either they weren't ready to reveal it, or there are problems with the product on a more fundamental level. Other people can continue to be amazed by seeing the machine recognize a smile, but I have plenty of doubts that have yet to be alleviated. So far, it seems like nothing more than a less convenient way to move slides on the X1 menu and provide a way to use Skype (which doesn't exactly scream gamer-centric, or, for me, justify the added 100 dollar price tag).

badkolo4013d ago (Edited 4013d ago )

listen at this point we should really wait, they are adding it to the system so they are bankking on kinect v2 to work as advertised, i mean lets be real here, if this thing launches and kinect 2 doesnt work as advertised, you can kiss the xbox good bye so lets just wait, either kinect is usefull and works extremly well or they dug themselves a grave they cant fix since the whole system is pretty much based on having kinect work with it, thats what the whole reveal was about. I doubt they would commit suicide like that . kinect v1 didnt need to be perfect, it just needed to work ok and bring something new to garner the wii style audience, it was coming out years after the launch and isnt the same as kinect 2 . lets wait before we get our pitchforks ready

Dr Pepper4012d ago (Edited 4012d ago )

I just feel that MS, to really sell the device, should've come out of the gates with something amazing. As an example, an RTS game utilizing fluid motion controls could've been really interesting. Hell, they owned Ensemble. What if they had kept the studio and released an amazing Age of Empires game in the launch window to sell the concept? Just throwin' out an idea.

Instead, gamers are shown a delayed firework simulator with a Disney name slapped onto it. I just don't understand how they are trying to sell this idea with an extra 100 dollars attached to the console. I can skye, but I can do that on a laptop, or on my phone. And even if they did something more hardcore, there are still fundamental problems with using that type of motion control system. I think there is a reason why a game like Ryse abandoned the idea and is using it as support, or a game like Dead Rising 3 says "the zombies can hear you in your room", and doesn't go much further.

These aren't fundamental to the gameplay, and in some ways just detract from it. Therefore, the lack of fundamental benefits make me wary of throwing in an extra 100 dollars for something that isn't necessary. Seems like a weird thing to base your video game console around.

It isn't my goal to bash the X1 for the hell of it. I've been a customer for a long time now, with the original xbox and xbox 360. But I've grown so weary of this game they play.

Shadonic4012d ago

Im going PS4 as well but lets be realistic here Technically you can still play online with Xbox one you just need to have connected to the internet in that 24 hour time-frame which kind of makes online the 24 hour connection stupid. You can trade games as they said you can trade a Code specifically for playing on other consoles with your friend which is a huge hassle in my book and yes you cant play without the camera but you can turn it off while your playing or cover it up if your not using it for gesture specific operations.

fsfsxii4012d ago

I'm going PS4 too but let's be realistic.
Xbox One SHITS on your rights. Is that clear??!

badkolo4013d ago (Edited 4013d ago )

It was easy to hate on kinect and I do agree on the why, it was pushed hard to capitalize on the motion fad and while it worked better then previous cameras and while the mic part worked decently it still had many drawbacks and wasnt fully reliable for gaming and was limited in many aspects, and in the end we got no core games for it, we got crap kiddie kinect games shoved down our throats when they could have been giving us more games and exclusives, so it was easy to hate on it. The kinect 2 though, if finally it lives up to its potential and it actually seems like it might then for once i can be excited about it, it looks like it will be an additional thing to use during games with some kinect games versus it being a motion camera with forced games that dont work well and only focus on the wii style audience while ignoring the core, it looks like they are making the proper changes as we only heard about 1 kinect game and you can actually use it for many other purposes and use it successfully

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The Xbox showcase brought the E3 magic

After having to prove itself for years, Xbox doubled down and pulled it off..

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GaboonViper1d 7h ago

Yep Xbox absolutely knocked it out of the park with that stunning show, it was everything a gaming showcase should be, games games and games, well done team Xbox.

CrimsonWing6916h ago

It really did. Like I came out of that with the hype for new games I haven’t felt since… well the better years of E3.

monkey60216h ago

It was without a doubt one of the better showcases in years. There was plenty there that excited me. Something has been lacking in years on all platforms

EasilyTheBest14h ago

It was an amazing showcase I loved everything about it. Can't wait to play some of those games.
What's going on. 4 comments & no negatives yet. Wow, what's going on with N4G.

ThinkThink13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Show was so good, it made me forget about that blue dragon rumor until the next day. Too many games to process.

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Is Xbox Going Multi-Platform The Right Decision For The Console Market?

Shahmeer from eXputer: "The new Xbox strategy to go multi-platform could eventually change console gaming as we know it, and I am concerned."

Bathyj1d 17h ago

Can we stop pretending that Xbox has any great influence over the console market?

All they can do is try and steer their own Destiny. They have very little to do with what the other players in the console market are doing.

And yes, going 3rd party is pretty much their only option and is good for them.

RaidenBlack1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Still whatever little direct competition they're offering against Sony ... that'd be gone, which is never good for consumers.
I know Sony will continue to apease the gamers but without any proper competition in same space, they might not work at the fullest efficiency.
(Taking into account, thats generally been agreed here, that Nintendo has long been not the direct competitor to either MS or Sony)

xHeavYx1d 13h ago

The " without any proper competition in same space, they (Sony) might not work at the fullest efficiency" narrative has been proven false for years. Let's stop pretending that, in terms of games, Xbox has been any competition to Playstation.

fsfsxii1d 13h ago

Sony had 0 competition for most of its playstation business, and they still succeeded, the only thing xbox introduced was paid online and dlc

maniacmayhem1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Sony had little to no competition during the PS2 era and they have an iconic catalog.

I don't think Sony needs competition in the console space to still release great games. It would be the games that would be competing against each other.

Einhander19721d 12h ago

Xbox does not need to exist for PlayStation to have competition.

They compete with Nintendo, PC, streaming and countless other devices.

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neutralgamer19921d 12h ago

Yes release games on other platforms

Your own gamers still get the games day one on GP. So GP will grow and stay stabilize

By releasing the games on PC,PlayStation and next switch they can get $70 for their games.

MS didn't invest 100 billion for nothing. This way Xbox generates way more revenue

GhostScholar1d 4h ago

And Sony is doing the same thing whether you want to admit it or not.

anast1d 16h ago

The show was like a sub-show for Sony. All these games are coming to PS5.

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outsider16241d 16h ago

You gotta admit though..xbox showcase was actually really great.

RpgSama1d 15h ago

I mean, yes, it was an Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda presentation, they just so happened to buy all of those publishers, nothing we would not have seen on any other award show if they had not bought developers that were and STILL are developing multiplatform games.

If you remove them you are left with Microsoft game studios, another Fable, Another Gears, Perfect Dark which for me didn't look all that great, Avowed, Age of mythology and south of midnight (might be missing something I guess)

anast1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

No better than any other show. There weren't any major new announcements, which is what everyone has been complaining about. The bar shouldn't get lowered for a trillion dollar company.

crazyCoconuts1d 14h ago

"another Fable, another Gears, Perfect Dark"?
That's a lot of pretty great "anothers".
I could use a few of those "anothers" from Sony right now.

helicoptergirl1d 13h ago

Yes it was a really great showcase that Xbox had. Multiplats and all. Overall it was really cool

Terry_B1d 13h ago

for pc and playstation..yes it was. Not a single reason was given to buy an xbox.

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thesoftware7301d 15h ago

anast,

"All these games are coming to PS5."

Very disingenuous statement... Some, but not all.

Oh, so that is the new narrative, "sub-show for Sony." lol, wow.

The sad part is that you are clearly and fully aware that it is very unlikely for any 1hr and 30min gaming presentation show to showcase ALL Exclusives, it just doesn't happen.

And don't you think it sad that MS had a better Sony showing than Sony? If I were you, I wouldn't consider that a flex, lol.?

anast1d 12h ago

They are coming to PS5, the ones that matter of course.

There is nothing sad here. You might need to start your argument without an emotive.

I don't think they had a better showing. Unless we lower the bar for only Xbox.

crazyCoconuts1d 14h ago

None of us really know how much they're going third party. They're still ACTING like they want to protect the platform - no mention of PS5 in their show, still marketing the console, still using the Xbox logo.
Yeah Phil acknowledged more is coming to PS5. But is that Indiana Jones? Perfect Dark? Gears?
If they keep those key properties in their stable it's not accurate to label them as simply 3rd party.
They may very well still be in the game after all...

anast1d 12h ago

@Coconut

Sony did the same in their last. They showed games that were already announced.

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Giga_Gaia1d 16h ago

We need to stop pretending like Xbox matters and has any influence in the industry.

By entering the industry, Microsoft made it worst, everything bad in the industry can be tied to them (like paid online and DLCs). The industry would be better off if they had never been in it.

Before you say Sony would have no competition, they would still have PC and Nintendo. As they are right now, Microsoft are not competition, they don't actually matter.

crazyCoconuts1d 14h ago

I think you're mostly right. They've been failing on console and will most likely drop out.
But the concern a lot of us had was that they would use their $ to win monopolistically. They've already bought a huge number of big studios. Going multi-platform would alleviate that concern.
But they could still turn the screws, this game isn't over quite yet... They're sending mixed signals.

CrimsonWing691d 16h ago

I think in Xbox’s direness it is, but let’s not pretend like they don’t understand the value of exclusiveness to their platform. Not every damn Xbox game is coming to PS5 and the stuff that has hit have either been GaaS games or games that didn’t exactly sell gamgbusters and are extremely niche.

When Halo, Gears, Forza, Perfect Dark, Fable, etc. start coming to PS5 then that’s pretty massive and also diminishes any reason to own an Xbox.

LucasRuinedChildhood1d 16h ago

Doom isn't niche. It was heavily implied that all Bethesda games, outside of games with contractual agreements and the existing multiplayer games, would all be exclusive to Xbox.

CrimsonWing691d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Ok, sorry, Doom is the exception.

My point is Xbox is still keeping exclusives for their bigger games. What’s been released are GaaS: Sea of Thieves, Grounded aka Honey I Shrunk the Kids, and then niche stuff like Pentiment and Hi-Fi Rush. Then you got Doom coming out, which is an outlier, I suppose.

crazyCoconuts1d 14h ago

It's not niche but it's not everything.
MS has got a HUGE cache of IP and studios now

Scissorman1d 16h ago

It's the only decision. Hardware sales are on a sharp decline and Game Pass growth has stagnated.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct

Xbox writes: "Join us for a double feature on June 9, 10am PT - Xbox Games Showcase immediately followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct.  The Xbox Games Showcase is your look at the new games from Xbox Game Studios, Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda, as well as our partners from around the globe. Immediately following the Showcase, stay tuned for Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Direct for a special deep-dive into the beloved franchise."

ravens522d ago

I'm here. Waiting in anticipation to see some games 🤙🏽

GamerRN2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I'll be honest, if they don't announce some major shit, this could be the nail in the coffin.

If I hear about major 1st party titles going multiplatform, it's over.

They need to build the brand trust right now. A lot of damage has been done.

We need bangers, AND some news about next Gen.

Flawlessmic2d ago

It's just started 4 games in and it's already been a fantastic show.

This is gonna be the best showcase in years

VersusDMC2d ago

New Doom dark ages anounced for PS5 as well...

GamerRN2d ago

So far this is a great show, and mostly all GamePass games? Looks like the bangers are finally coming!

Investments finally paying off.

Now they need new hardware so they can start over

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

So far the best showcase this year

Flawlessmic2d ago

At this rate, best show of the last 2-4 years, been an absolute bangerrrrr so far!!!

Pixykont2d ago

Perfect dark looks incredible

shinoff21832d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Agreed. Way better then what Sony did and has done. Those multiplayer games really fked Sony over for a few years. Xbox showed off some good looking stuff. I'm most interested in state of decay 3.

1Victor2d ago

@obcured:”BEST XBOX SHOWCASE EVER!!!!”
You need at least 10real people to agree in writing with you for anyone here believing you after saying the same thing year over year for the last 10+ years.
Now that I finished watching the show for me personally it was a ok as I don’t play FP games but that’s just me and I can recognize that for people that like FPG it’s a amazing show so ENJOY them.
Another thing and I hope for Microsoft sake they don’t do their next system digital only based on the S sales over the X, I hope they’ll learn the lesson of not making a lower power version just to try to undercut their competitor.
Metal gear 3 looked sweet.
Overall a lot of pretty games CONGRATS to all Xbox gamers this is what you deserve year over year 👍✨

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lelo2play2d ago

Great showcase by Microsoft. So many interesting games...

RaidenBlack1d 15h ago

Only thing I missed was Clockwork Revolution...
And what happened to Everwild? Liked the art style.

Lightning772d ago

Very certain Perfect Dark will show up. fable showing up and 2025 release date.

Unpopular opinion here but INL think Final Fantasy 16 will release on Xbox. I dunno if it'll be on Gamepass but I think it's going to other platforms now.

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Obscure_Observer2d ago

HERE WE GOOO!!!

Time to see what amazing games Xbox Game Studios has been cooking for us, boys!!!

THE HYPE IS REAL!!!

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I'm glad Microsoft had a great show. Hopefully this show potentially wakes up Sony and Nintendo. Competition is good for the industry. We don't need publishers and developers to get comfortable and get lazy on us. Keep them thinking and on their toes

cthulhucultist2d ago

well said Sonic. Competition is beneficial for us gamers

Master-Tonberry2d ago

Absolutely agree, many of the games shown are also coming to PS5 (despite MS hiding other platforms from the reveals) but the genuine exclusive all look great. Nintendo will obviously continue to carve it's own path and will be very busy with the Switch 2, but Sony and PlayStation really needs to pull it's socks up and start bringing out the big guns or people are going to start losing faith. Hopefully the rumours of a big PlayStation Experience show later this year are true.

anast1d 16h ago

The main knock on Sony is that there haven't been any major first party announcements. Xbox does a show with no major announcements.

The_Hooligan2d ago

This showcase was great. Not just a great Xbox showcase but in general the best one this year so far.

Kurisu2d ago

I'm tuned in now. I can't say I've ever been big in to Xbox, but I got myself a Series S when it launched. Can't say I've used it much but I'm intrigued to see what's in the pipeline.

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