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My only issue with the PS4

TotallyGN writes: "The E3 conference for Sony really blew my mind, especially as the Microsoft one had let me down so badly. I have always been a Sony guy, having said that I also own an Xbox 360 as I love Halo and the Gears Of War franchises. There were plenty of aspects of the PS4 I liked...

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Snookies123985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

The MS conference wasn't bad at all. It was focused a whole lot on games. It's just that they didn't do anything to clarify the issues people had with their system. Microsoft didn't say a word about the Xbox One or the policies it had with it.

abzdine3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

i pre-ordered my PS4 an hour ago at gamestop !! what a satisfaction! The guy told me lots of people changed their X1 pre-orders into PS4 and while i was talking to him abut x1 another employee came out and first thing he said: "DONT BUY XBOX"! i started to lmao

Greatness awaits
4>1

minimur123985d ago

I don't see what peoples problems are with BC, I mean if you have a porblem with it, then it obviously means you already have a PS3 so just keep it.

dont like BC? keep your PS3.
simple as.

sure I'll get dislikes for this, but its my opinion.

minimur123985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

Anyway, I think that deserves a bubble up for well said. ;)

Additionally, most TV's have both scart and hdmi so if you've run out of hdmi's there's always a scart to put it into, just tuck the ps3 away a bit so it's still accessable. And there's that disc changer being released soon so there's always that to use, sure you may not want to spend more money on your console at the end of its life but hey, it will be a hell of a lot convenient.
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Godmars2903985d ago

They also didn't prove Kinect 2.0. If anything avoided mentioning it altogether aside from the voice command feature, which was the only thing that seemed to work with 1.0 and is a key feature of the entire XBO system.

And then there was also the failure to show anything in regards to cloud improving XBO performance. As much as they showed off Kinect before the years it was released, they've yet to show how that would actually work.

Grap3985d ago

MS conference was more than great. if only MS didn't F* us with their DRM i would buy X1 day one.

medman3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

I don't think their conference was great at all. I really didn't see many games that interest me, but then again I'm not a Halo or Cod multiplayer type of gamer. I prefer the Mass Effect's, Uncharted's, or God of War's of this world. Having said that, games like The Division, Destiny, and Watch_Dogs interest me much more than a game like Titanfall because they are open world and have a story and a narrative I can get into. Titanfall, the game everyone seems to talk about from the Xbox One conference seems like Cod with mechs. I don't find that interesting.

MikeMyers3985d ago

@Snookies, this is about the PS4 not the Xbox One.

I imagine once Gaikai comes out in 2014 it will help solve some of the backwards compatibility issues. This is another reason I will be holding off on getting a PS4 until next year. Games like Infamous and Gaikai will then be available.

Snookies123985d ago

In the article, it mentions that Microsoft had "let him down badly" at their conference... I was stating that there would have been no reason to be let down badly by it. Their conference was really solid actually. Except for, as I mentioned above... Their lack of clarifying anything about the system itself or the policies they were putting in place for it.

FamilyGuy3983d ago

It was nothing but a game preview show. They said all they were going to do was show games and they meant it literally. I felt like I was watching endless movie trailers at the theater with no actual movie at the end.

Don't get me wrong, I thought some game looked cool but I could have accomplished just as much by only watching the youtube trailers of them after they were uploaded right after the show.

The only thing I would've missed were the funny technical difficulties and how they kept having to rally the crowd into starting a round of applause.

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Mikelarry3985d ago

they did say gaikai will be able to provide this functionality. i too have built up a massive library of ps3 games and hd remakes, i own a 360, ps3 and future owner of a ps4. that would mean i will have to have 3 games console under my tv unit.

Software_Lover3985d ago

It's just the way of the world man. If you want to play them all then you will have to keep them under there. If not then you will probably have to pay for Gaiki when it comes out. Me, I'm just gonna keep my ps3/360.

BC is good, but we expect too much. The only way to continue it now is for them to keep the architecture that they have or go cloud based.

zeroskie3985d ago

Thank goodness the PS4 is flat, because i'm putting my PS3 right on top of it.

McScroggz3985d ago

I hope you're joking because that would be a terrible thing to do.

medman3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

Don't worry Mikelarry, I'm sure your 360 will give up the ghost and overheat by the time the new consoles launch so you don't have to worry about that. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the sneaky, lying bastards at Microsoft built in an automatic compromise of the 360 hardware set to strike right before the Xbox One's release. The sad part for those sad sacks is they could not have anticipated that instead of picking up an Xbox One when the 360 fails, 360 owners will be eyeing a PS4 instead. Oh, the irony.

Typical-Guy3985d ago

It has Gaikai which can stream previous gen games... I don't know what the fuss is about regarding this backwards compatibility, keep your PS3.

Mikelarry3985d ago

but think about it it might not happen this way but what if next next gen also is not backward compatible and would mean 5 consoles under your tv unit. its crazy

Typical-Guy3985d ago

Let's worry about tomorrow, tomorrow... I agree with you though.

Plus since consoles are becoming PC-like in architecture, backwards compatibility might be happening in future consoles.

nypifisel3985d ago

I don't think people play that many older games to justify it being under the TV all the time. If that is a problem then just bring it out and plug it in when you want to play that particular old console... Well except if that old console is the X1 cause then you wont be able to play it anyway :>

DarKnightDave3985d ago

I hear ya man. There's a few ps3 games I'm wanting to get like Deadpool, Splinter Cell Blacklist, etc. But I'm gonna hold off on those and save my game money for PS4. Besides I figure those games will be marked down soon.

SpinalRemains3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

Conventional BC to me, is highly overrated, as I buy a new system to play new games. I neither hoard games nor replay old ones after I've completed them.

What I do have a beef with is the old school retro games I paid for on PSN that won't carry over. Old arcade classics like the Capcom cabinet etc... I don't think the ps4 will be able to play those titles at launch that are on our own accounts.

Is that right? PsN digital games on ps3 will not carry over to ps4?

sashimi3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

They're most likely creating a emulator to work with PS3 PSN games as well as PS2/PS1 classics. You still have remember that despite them being digital, they are still coded for running on the PS3 or running on emulators specifically made for the PS3. In time or whenever its complete i think it will support them. Maybe not day one but i think it'll definitely be completed in the first year.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers18d ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken18d ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g18d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing18d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H918d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola18d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66918d ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle18d ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg19d ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos19d ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola19d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies39d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken39d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga39d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken39d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6439d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long39d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197239d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic39d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12539d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91339d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer39d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91338d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit38d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher39d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6938d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit38d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher39d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken39d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197239d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic39d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2339d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218339d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder39d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts39d ago

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