StickSkills: "Valve recently opened the public partners side of SteamWorks and it appears as that may have backfired. A user of the website did some brute forcing and stumbled upon a SteamWorks page for Left 4 Dead 3."
A Left 4 Dead 3 reference was spotted in the files of the Counter-Strike 2 closed beta, suggesting that the title may finally be in development.
Not the first time it's been referenced. Valve said years ago that it wasn't in development, but of course things change. L4D3 was supposedly almost finished at one point but development stopped because Source 2 was still incomplete.
Most of the time you get people saying a third game isn't needed as there's nothing to improve upon anyways, which is complete nonsense. I have to wonder if those that say such things have junk computers or something. Why they'd want to keep playing the same repetitive thing over and over is beyond me.
I'm honestly curious too as to whether the entry in the code means something or not, considering April 1's only a couple days away, and Valve knows people are datamining for this stuff now. But at the same time, the CS2 driver update entry meant nothing too, until it suddenly did. No telling with GabeN and co. really.
Based on the last two games, it'll likely be four new survivors but past will cameo.
I guess, but I can dream
I just think they were did dirty with the lack of support or content that game got compared to what was promised...them BOOM, L4D2 was announced months later
Tons of reasons, but I'll just mention a few.
1) L4D2 feels like a PC shooter in terms of aim speed, movement speed, etc. Even when playing on PC, B4B evidently feels like a slower experience designed for console first. Obviously this is nice for console players, but L4D is a pc-focused series, so if you market your game as a successor, I expect it to feel like it's designed for PC.
2) The AI of the standard zombies (or whatever you call them) is lower. Again, this feels like a compensation for console players.
3) The special enemies on L4D2 are a lot more varied and interesting; in B4B they are just kind of big things you shoot a lot.
4) The world in L4D2 feels more real (not factual but real in the context of the game). When hordes rush you, it feels like they are coming from a specific direction in the distance. In B4B they just spawn in a monster closet in the building beside you. Similarly the special enemies in L4D2 feel like they are in the world, while in B4B they just literally materialize near you. Like there's nothing in B4B that matches taking on a witch that's in your path; the big "moments" in that game are usually just some super generic big thing materializing near you.
5) B4B added basically every bad component of modern multiplayer games geared toward casuals. There's an unnecessary hub world, an unnecessary loot system, an unnecessary operater/hero system where you pick a character with abilities and you level those through cards you buy with loot, and upgrade skins, etc. What makes L4D2 great is that it's a great co-op experience that doesn't have a ton of unnecessary tacked on RPG lite live service features as barriers to fun with friends; as soon as I started playing B4B I had a friend telling me I needed to focus on a specific hero and level them with certain cards. If I want that crap I'd play Destiny 2.
won't be an issue for me since I never liked playing with bots in L4D2, but I still agree
Valve's Robin Walker elaborates on the rumored Left 4 Dead 3, Portal VR, and a whole lot more in this month's IGN Unfiltered.
If they are going to do more VR stuff, I prey it's not exclusive stuff
No one wants VR exclusive Portal, L4D stuff, give us the option and let everyone play, especially with how long we've all been waiting for new instalments to these games.
Whats exclusive about Alyx? Its supports all the PC VR headsets. I'm sure if PS4 was capable, you'd see it there too. Shouldnt be an issue with next gen coming.
I just want a standard version I can play with a controller
With REVII you had the option it was built up for both standard play and VR
It's exclusive to VR, which is niche. That's pretty exclusive. A lot of people just don't have any interest in VR.
@Foxtrot Playing with a controller would defeat the purpose of this game. I hope it comes to PS5 though, it's amazing and it's the system/peripheral seller VR needs to go mainstream.
Valve makes their own vr hw, and somehow you expect them to release a non-vr fps game after the success of Alyx? They want to evolve vr.. ofc its gonna be only VR
Hahah not long ago PlayStation fanboys crying about HDZ coming to Pc and Now this? Hypocrites!!
Which PS4 fanboy is crying? I don’t see no crying lol.
If your talking about fox, he said no exclusive VR.
yeah man. you need to realise that a very small amount of people do not represent the ps community as a whole. same for every community
I'd like to see a new Counter Strike, that has a story mode and is inspired by SOCOM or SWAT. The world could use more tactical shooters and Valve could do a phenomenal job with this series, if they take it in this direction.
I love SP shooters, but CS is not made for SP. Why waste resources on something the userbase wont play?
I would play the SP and I played 1.6 religiously back in the day. Granted it would be a single play through and all my time would be going into the MP, I'd still be very interested in a single player VR game.
I just want L4D3 they popped out L4D2 pretty fast after the first game and now they are dragging their feet. I know L4D3 would be a day one for me the series is my favorite shooter and I don't like many shooters.
I just hope that when we do get another L4D it feels like a proper sequel. As good as L4D2 was, it just felt like DLC. And considering it was developed and released within 9 months, it pretty much *was* DLC.
Agreed, i would say L4D2 itself pretty much could've been DLC.. though i will say that the new stuff they added made a big difference to longevity, the extra special infected were much needed. It got boring fighting smokers, boomers and hunters over and over, the spitter, charger and jockey were good additions.. though the jockey is a right PITA as it seems to teleport jump and latch onto your head at times.
After playing tons of L4D2 i could already see where they could improve the game to almost no end, for example there's signs in the swamps saying do not feed the gators, but no gators.. there could be more weapons, weather effects, day/night cycles, extra shortcuts, more randomisation of item/enemy placement, extra escape routes, few new types of special infected.. i could go on. But more additions = more replayability, i think you get the picture.
At least there's Back 4 Blood from Turtle Rock while we wait for a possible new L4D, and they're already doing motion capture for it, so hope we get to see stuff about it soon. Just hope it's got the L4D vibe.
I don't think Portal VR is a good idea considering what you do in those game I'm pretty sure I'd be puking all over the place.
I think it could potentially work, but it would need to be without the momentum-based puzzles. The fast speed would probably make people sick. Or they could go back to the original Portal 2 concept of using time travel instead of portals.
Hmm hadn't thought of it that way, if it was done without moving all across the map and changing directions constantly I think it could work.
Valve says Left 4 Dead 3 is absolutely not in development at the studio, despite recent rumors.
They make F2P gacha card & mobile games. By using psychiologically exploiting methods, they generate more revenue with less investment.
Valve needs to actually make games. Half life alyx is a start, but there needs to be something other than VR and dota.
I’m not happy they sucked in campo santo and now have them doing their bidding.
If this is true, it means they CAN count to three.
Meaning...
HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED.
This could be something that would launch alongside new consoles.
L4D3...really. Out of all the number 3 games to do first they want to do L4D3.
I'm still a little ticked off how they handled L4D, all the promises for DLC to expand on the adventures of Bill, Louis, Francis and Zoey and instead "Oh yeah you know that DLC we promised you since you saw how empty L4D was at launch.....WELL HERE IS L4D2 with NEW characters"
Then just when you think it can't get any worse they decide to do a cross over even though we all know that the L4D survivors were going North, not south. THEN they kill Bill off to put the final nail in L4D's tiny coffin. I'm only bothered because L4D had much better characters and some of the new infected in L4D2 sucked so much. Plus I never got the melee weapons, L4D made it seem like a realistic zombie apocalypse but L4D2 made it seem goofy and cartoony.
I really hope they bring the L4D survivors back in L4D3 somehow. Either set it in Florida where they find out that their "safe haven" is actually much worse then were they originally were, where the virus has mutated eve worse to bring in new infected and they find a new survivor to replace Bill...maybe an older female pensioner.
OR
Make it so the Passing DLC was non cannon and was just a what if scenario if the survivors went south instead of North, setting L4D3 in Canada.
am I the only one who liked L4D's characters and setting more then L4D2's ?
L4D3 PC Mod's I can imagine =)
If this is real, I'm making the switch to PC at the right time. Bring on the custom maps!!!