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GTR: Microsoft First Parties “Six Months Behind” On Next-Gen Games – Roundtable Discussion

This week on Gamertag Radio:

*Big Announcement
*Rumor: Microsoft First Parties “Six Months Behind” On Next-Gen Games – roundtable discussion
*Call Of Duty Ghosts
*Again….. Wii U debate
*No Madden NFL football from EA Sports on Wii U in 2013
*Grand Theft Auto 5 trailer
*Fanmail
*Truth or False

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Chaostar4015d ago

MS will just splurge on whatever weak willed 3rd party studios they can find. It's worked for them in the past although it's more of a temporary fix, here's hoping their 1st party get to grips with the new hardware asap.

Belking4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

Dude, you shouldn't be that naive. These people don't know jack about MS or the industry itself. They just look for articles on the net(whether true or not) and gossip.

cyberninja4015d ago

And you know everything about them, lol.

DA_SHREDDER4015d ago

I agree that it's all speculation, but still, you have to admit, its not like Microsoft isn't the weakest in terms of 1st party software portfolio.

MikeMyers4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

How can you be behind 6 months if you don't have much to show before that? It's not like Microsoft has been pumping out 1st party games for the past few years. Nintendo and Sony seem to be able to handle both handheld and console game supplies, especially Sony.

I'd like to see Microsoft invest more into new studios and not just with the same ip's or XBLA and Kinect games.

coolbeans4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

"And you know everything about them, lol."

They're in the gaming journalism industry. That fact alone makes Belking's point pretty legitimate in my eyes.

EVILDEAD3604015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

The Kotaku rumor isn't going to hurt a fly.

MS just simply needs to show off the goods over the course of these 3 months and all the fake speculation is going to cease.

All they need to do is show off the vision, show off the box, and denounce the rumors, save the megatons for E3 and it's going to be a whole new ball game.

Popcorn will be popped.

Evil

Menech4015d ago

Microsoft aren't Sony they don't have the same business model. They aren't a first party focused firm, they don't own 20 games development Studios.

I wish everyone would stop using that tired fantard argument, and stop telling MS in their infinite knowledge that they need to be more like a company that hasn't made a profit in over 4 years.

Chaostar4015d ago

Actually, I think it's much more naive to completely dismiss a rumour than to mildly speculate on the possibility that it's true. Nowhere did I make the assertion that this rumour is 100% fact.

subtenko4015d ago

I might just skip out on the Xbox720 and just get a PS4 first at least. I'm still waiting for the 21st of May though because maybe M$ will show something new and never before seen to the gaming industry.

sikbeta4015d ago

Those who really want this to be really don't understand that IF true, MS will buy Third Party Exlclusives left and right... so, yeah, can't beat them, unless you don't wanna play those amazing third party games, I don't see why anyone will want this to happen, it's a win-win situation for Xbox owners, not so much for everyone else ;)

nypifisel4015d ago

@skibeta

That's just stupid. Do you think anyone would consider it financially feasible for Microsoft to buy third party titles like that. It isn't. Third parties are even more reluctant than ever to do exclusive deals. Especially on a new console launch when the install base are so small.

EVILDEAD3604015d ago

Unless you are oblivious to standard gaming practices in console gaming, you would clearly know that ALL consoles use Third Party exclusives.

Both Sony and MS had Third Party exclusives THIS gen and both Sony and MS will have them Next gen.

If you find fault with MS then you also should find fault with Sony as well.

Evil

pixelsword4014d ago

Either:

A. The 6mo. rumor is true and Kotaku knows enough to kiss buns early to keep their website afloat. This would be wise for Kotaku, because six months is a long time to be left in the cold because they dissed Sony. Kotaku might reason that someone inside Sony's executive enclave may decide that supporting a website that tends to give them the finger first chance they get is a bad idea, because doing such won't help with putting Sony back in the black

or

B. They posted total bull to get people riled-up just to get "slammed" with good news and make aspects of the Microsoft announcement appear better than what it actually is (it's reverse-psychology, of sorts). Whether Kotaku is being played for suckers or not is not relevant because people have been trying to kick them off of this site longer than HHG, but for some reason they persist; so in that regard Kotaku can make up the dumbest Shinola they want, because pretty much no other gaming site is/was held responsible for what they say except HHG. I still remember when GameTrailers were caught fudging the appearance for graphics on more than one occasion on videos (for Sony, I think) but yet they were never kicked off of any site or their status lowered by anyone.

Either way, it's useless to speculate at this point until MICROSOFT actually says something, not Kotaku or anyone else acting upon a rumor.

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showtimefolks4015d ago

More rumors lets wait for MS to actually confirm something

Also it's not like MS depend on its 1st party studios

Most rumors that leaked for ps4 happened to have a lot of actual info so sme rumors maybe true but still we will not see the complete picture till E3

_-EDMIX-_4015d ago

Agreed, but Kotaku is one of the sites that leaked out those correct PS4 specs including the controller. I see this as being 80% true.

MS first party is pretty much Kinect Focused and they have leaned on 3rd parties to get timed exclusives for them MANY times before. This rumor just has oh too much truth in it based on what MS has done in the past. We'll see at E3, but if EA shows there game at E3 as a Xbox Fusion exclusive.......then clearly MS really has nothing in store for the core but timed games and Kinect.

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Kran4015d ago

So you mean developers like Remedy?

How dare you :(

Syntax-Error4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

Not only is this story old, but the original author wrote a reprise to it. Said it before and i'll say it again...MICROSOFT SHOULD NOT RELEASE CONSOLE FOR THE HOLIDAY SEASON. They should release the console in the 1st quarter of 2014. There's no rush considering not many people will buy the PS4 at launch anyway. With PS3 still having legs and an imminent price drop of the PS3, I am sure that PS4 might come out the gate slowly. You're looking at an end of year onslaught of games for current gen. No one is really ready to plop down $500 on a console when current consoles have so many good games getting released. People have to remember that Watch Dogs, Black Flag, and Battlefield 4 are also going to be on current gen as well as next gen. THE LAST GUARDIAN HAS GONE A WHOLE GENERATION AND STILL NOT READY. People always want to throw stones, but never in the right direction.

GribbleGrunger4015d ago

What lets you down there is $500. But for that, you have a decent argument. That shows quite clearly that you want to stack your argument by choosing the highest 'suggested' price so far $500 and not the widely accepted price of $399.

Other than that I see no problem with the logic here and it is definitely ONE possibility.

T24014d ago

@ syntax Ya you think so ? Every single friend I know is buying a ps4 day 1and never looking back .. Including my three xbox only friends . the only way Sony comes out slow through the busiest shopping season is if they run out .

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4014d ago

Most of their 1st party are 3 years behind on 360 support.

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matrixman924015d ago

i cant wait till the 21st so people can get information from official facts.

Knight_Crawler4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

Well said dude.

Some people want the Xbox to fail so bad and it hurts them that MS managed to triple its fanbase this gen.

I remember before the 360 launched a certain faction was screaming victory and saying that Sony will kill the 360 like they did the Dream Cast (R.I.P). - see 2007 N4G 360 article.

http://n4g.com/news/90189/2...

Here is hoping MS delivers with the 720 with games and gives us an all in one beast of a machine and provides more countless memories like they did with the 360 :)

Edit: Am I the only one who is super hype for Alan Wake 2 and cannot wait to see what Remedy does with next a next gen console.

Also I would love a Lost Odyssey 2 but dont think Mist Walker has time to make it and I dont want anybody but Mist Walker to make it.

ps3_pwns4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

you need to ask yourself why they want ms to fail then compare that why the other people want the ps4 to fail. in the end the side that wants the x720 to fail actually have good thought out reasons. the people who want the ps4 to fail have no reason at all just fanboyism.

x720
1. pay to play online yearly money subscription that can go up in price

2. not as many 1st party titles compared to nintendo and sony.

3 little variety in exclusives

4 kinect no one likes the focus on that

5. with all the being behind crap no one wants a rrod again.

these are only 5 reasons i could do more but whats the reason to hate ps4?

1.the console will not be high price sony even said it wouldnt be.

2 mic in every box and you can plug it into your control

3. increased features and cross chat and video and even more stuff then xbl in this area

4 improved controller

5. most powerful system with tons of 1st party devs and exclusives in different generes.

why do you guys hate the ps4? please tell me?

is it because you want to carry over your achievements? is it because you think your friends are all gonna go xbox again which they are not. sometimes you have to let go of the past things like many let go of myspace and embraced facebook. times have changed.

@Kratos_Kills no they will show fake milo vids and trick everyone once again and the xbox fanboys will eat it all up like peasents.

Why o why4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

Ha,,Hey knight crawler. Did you forget the dead on arrival articles for the ps3 that certain 'factions' were backing with their screams along with the no games ones after the ps released.... goes both ways mate....lets not act like its only 1 faction screaming aey.

As many have repeatedly stated...the 21st cant come soon enough.....people will continue to farm extra hits until then.

slampunk4015d ago

@PS3_pwns

"the people who want the ps4 to fail have no reason at all just fanboyism."

So people can be critical of MS but not of Sony....your comment wreaks of fanboy (as does your name)

Before this gen i was complete Sony fanboy....i eventually bought a 360 after seeing gears of war and xbox live.....having both has certainly made me realize how narrow minded fanboys are.....

What do i want this gen? Both sony and MS to remain competitive....why? because that is better for the consumer as companies are forced to spend more money on games, services etc.

This Gen MS are the clear winner from a business point of view.....

Although PS+ is great value, MS still have what i consider the better online service. Party chat, cross game chat and including a headset were huge wins for MS this gen.....So much so that Sony even mentioned it in their PS4 announcement.

MS triple their market share in one generation.....after how huge the PS2 was, Sony were foolish and complacent at the beginning of this gen...to their credit they threw everything they had at it after the disappointing launch but from a business point of view they failed in comparison to last gen. Before you disagree, do you think that prior to PS3 launching, that Sony execs sat around the board table going "ok, well we'll lose 50% of our market share, whilst MS triple their hardware sales and then we'll have to work the entire generation to sell as many consoles as MS" Of course they didn't?!

I give credit to Sony for using MS plan from this gen.....announce first, better controller, headset,sharing features, cross chat.....They have looked at this gen and basically admitted where they fell short and seem to be fixing the issues which i think is fantastic.....

Kinect...... (which doesn't really appeal to me) has been huge for MS.....do the core gamers really care for it, probably not, but from a business point of view it was a great win for MS. Around 20 million sold i think.....Sony didn't show their console in Feb but did show their version of kinect / ps eye which certainly shows their respect for the device.

i may sound like i side with MS here , but i don't ( i will buy both next gen consoles)..... Just trying to make you who is obviously a PS fanboy open your eyes a little.....

I also don't understand why in a MS story you ask why people hate PS4....i don't?

and why would people hate PS4 for adding a headset, cross chat and for being a powerful system?

As matrixman92 said.

"i cant wait till the 21st so people can get information from official facts."

ATi_Elite4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

I'm hyped for Alan Wake 2 also except I'll be playing it on the PC.

Alan Wake was a good game and Remedy did a Good job porting it to PC.

Alan Wake sold very well on the PC so a Day 1 release for Alan Wake 2 is expected instead of a year 2 release like AW1

MS looks to be pushing for a Machine to be the center piece of the Living room and NOT just a gaming machine. Expect way more kinect stuff along side MS usual plans for Timed Exclusives.

I'm Positive MS has been lurking around looking for just the right Dev and game to lock into a Exclusive deal for their new machine

But I expect 343 to pump out another Halo to solidify the X720.

May 21st. will be a Good day!

kenshiro1004015d ago

... Nobody wants Microsoft to fail but they need to actually put more effort into new Ips and actual games next gen.

But of course, automatically assume people hate Microsoft...

nukeitall4015d ago

@slampunk:

I completely agree with you. The thing here is that Sony's playbook so far is to basically copy MS Xbox 360 strategy and is now getting praise for it. I find that ironic.

Cross game/party chat, included microphone, easier architecture, developer friendly, eye toy with depth tracking, and so on.

Essentially it seems Sony looked at MS this generation and planned the PS4. So far little new and innovative ideas has been shown and maybe it is too early.

DigitalRaptor4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

@ nukeitall

"EyeToy" with depth tracking features were going to happen regardless of Kinect's success as Sony have been working on camera based gaming for years prior to MS buying and utilizing PrimeSense tech - but you'll obviously negate that fact.

It's a shame that Sony aren't copying Microsoft in the one area that truly matters on a gaming console then isn't it, and instead, are pushing ahead and have been for many years in that regard?

And I imagine Sony also copied Microsoft's badass Gaikai digital distribution model? I guess Sony copied the Xbox's instant-play features too. I guess they copied the Xbox's "jump into your friend's game" feature. I guess they copied Xbox's dedicated chip to play games whilst they download feature.

I guess they copied the light bar sensor from the Xbox controller to allow's split screen games to adjust based on where people are sitting. That is just one feature of many.

coolvibu934014d ago

@ps3_pwns

All your ''reasons'' for hating the X720 are bull and made up because we know nothing about it. You just assume that all the negatives and only the negatives about the 360 automatically translate into the 720 and yet none of the PS3 negatives translate in the PS4, only the PS3 positives: this is clear fanboyism. For example, you still assume Ms will not change their business model about chargec online. Need I remind you MS and Sony once said Wii used motion controls would never be implemented on their consoles? Yet we all know how that ended. As you said times have changed, and companies change business models all the time. Maybe they'll change it, maybe they won't. But don't go stating things you know nothing about as if they are facts. Oh and that ''which can go up in price'' is total Bs you added to make your point more compelling when no signs remotedly point toweards it.
Point 2 and 3 are the same, which you had to separate to reach 5 reasons. Ms has made/acquired 11 new studios in the last 3 years (don't believe me, check their wiki), with 8 of them working on nextgen content as of now, so (hopefully) they should be in a better position than this gen. Remember, Sony didn't start up with all their studios already, it took them time to build up those studios.
5. with all the being behind crap no one wants a rrod again. Did you read? They are late behind 1st party game dev not the console.

All in all, your post reaks of unsubstantiated fanboy crap. At least wait until the 21st.

4Sh0w4014d ago (Edited 4014d ago )

@ps3 pwns uhm that is the biggest load of crap Ive read in awhile, none of those are logical reasons for wanting a gaming device to fail unless of course you are a dictator and YOU want a world in which there is only one type of home console platform that should exist, ahh exactly modeled like sonys, right? I mean because god knows thats the only way to do business and nobody likes what micro has done with the xbox brand this gen anyway. Im sure the great sales are due to micro buying up their own supply.

nukeitall4014d ago

@digitalrap:

""EyeToy" with depth tracking features were going to happen regardless of Kinect's success as Sony have been working on camera based gaming for years prior to MS buying and utilizing PrimeSense tech - but you'll obviously negate that fact."

I don't need to, facts speak for itself. Sony turned away the technology and so did Nintendo. Upon Kinect release, Sony official commented they didn't they the market will accept it.

Sony later back tracked, and essentially said they were surprised it sold so well.

Even after MS success, nobody has really tried to copy them. Still think it would have released?

Sony instead copied Wii with PS Move!

"And I imagine Sony also copied Microsoft's badass Gaikai digital distribution model? I guess Sony copied the Xbox's instant-play features too. I guess they copied the Xbox's "jump into your friend's game" feature. I guess they copied Xbox's dedicated chip to play games whilst they download feature."

Those things you are mentioning is expected to apper on the next Xbox too. There is nothing revolutionary about it, and even if MS released ahead and Sony revealed later wouldn't still be considered copied, because these things for the most part exist on PC. They have just now moved to console so you can say it is copied from PC?

"I guess they copied the light bar sensor from the Xbox controller to allow's split screen games to adjust based on where people are sitting. That is just one feature of many."

What you are mentioning is just a single niche feature, not a strategy.

The sort of thing I'm talking about is a strategy to change how you use your console. For instance, PS Move was that and it was an attempt to get hardcore and casual gamers.

Co-op split screen on a controller is a niche feature. In fact, co-op in general is pretty niche.

Gakai is more the type of thing I'm talking about, or including a headset in the box to get a better online community. Now a share button can be such a strategy.

Getting an easier platform to develop for is another.

So don't list small niche features, that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but business strategies to get consumers to prefer one platform over another.

Fact is, the general strategy of the PS4 is basically a copy of the Xbox 360. MS is furthering their strategy with TV and all around entertainment for the family instead. Sony might have something major up their sleeve, but they haven't shown it....

Now if you just want to respond by arguing semantics, don't bother. If you have other major featurse like "share button" (that I mentioned) or Gakai to show me that Sony really has a different strategy then please share.

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Riderz13374015d ago

Lol to you it's only "fact" if it's a positive rumor regarding Microsoft and the next gen Xbox.

matrixman924015d ago

and to you its probably only a "fact" if its a negative rumor regarding Microsoft and the next gen Xbox. I can tell you are a ps fanboy who probably takes rumors as fact, considering your profile reads "The Last of Us - Game of the generation"...a game that isn't even out yet.

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AngelicIceDiamond4015d ago

Amen to that.

People continue to speculate about the same rumors over and over. (Like they're gonna find an answer or something)

May 21 is just around the corner. Lets just continue to play the waiting game a little while longer.

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ApolloTheBoss4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

Damn it, I just want them to reveal it already. I am so sick of these rumors. I never planned on getting a Nextbox but it wouldn't hurt to see if any of them are true or not.

hellvaguy4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

If it isn't ready or they are still making final decisions, why would they reveal it now just to make some people feel better or less anxious?

Plus, you said you have no plans to even get one, so why do you even care if its gold plated, makes you fertile, cures bald spots, or w/e?

ApolloTheBoss4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

Look no need to start a whole debate on the subject. I'm just tired of people pointing out, not just negative rumors but rumors in general, when they have absolutely no idea if it's legit or not. Give the company a chance to make themselves clear. And to answer your question I care because M$ wants me to care, because I'm a potential customer. It's all fair game. Just because I don't plan on buying one doesn't mean they can't blow me away with a feature that might change my mind and convince me to buy one. If it's not ready, fine. Let's wait till May 21 before we continue to throw out baseless and/or unconfirmed rumors.

hellvaguy4015d ago (Edited 4015d ago )

I plan to wait until May 21 of 2013 or 2014 w/e they say it's ready, same with $ony. Doesn't mean I'm going to buy it either one, since I'm in a pretty good place right now with pc gaming.

But it does mean I won't be whining about them releasing it when I want them to. I feel I work at a great place, and yet half the people there whine and complain all the time. Just how some people are. It wont ever stop or change.

And guess what? Your frustrations will not be at all relived when m$ does release the specs, because (*spoiler alert*), people will still complain about this or that. Think you just need to get over it.

Software_Lover4015d ago

Same ole $h!t just a different day.

Rehashed articles are rehashed articles.

MultiConsoleGamer4015d ago

False rumor. Dev kits have been out for two years. Story generated by the online PR department of a rival company. Pure spin machine bullshit. And if you want to prove this for yourself just look at who is talking about this story the most.

In before disagree votes and "no u" replies I won't read.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest3d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN2d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan2d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor1d 19h ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic1d 19h ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv721d 21h ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts1d 18h ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares3d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv722d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka2d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion2d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer2d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow12d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer2d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar2d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn2d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast2d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning772d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole1d 23h ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning772d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast2d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning772d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast2d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv722d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes2d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv727d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning776d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga7d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv726d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19926d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21837d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan6d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit6d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus236d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv726d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier6d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan6d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1017d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-6d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac7d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead6d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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