IGN: "Sony’s most mysterious studio is toiling away on something. What could it be?"
Days Gone developer appears to be moving well outside its comfort zone in order to join Sony's ongoing foray into live-service games.
Admin note: Updated this to rumor. Job listings can be a good indicator, but let's remember nothing is final until officially announced. ~Christopher
This game will determine the fate of Sony Bend. Not looking to good if it's a live service game.
Days gone is an amazing game which I believe was unfairly criticized for things a lot of other games gets a pass for. The game is very good but had a few bugs on launch that was quickly patched the day of release. There are so many games that took months to iron out most of the bugs that are highly praised so I can understand if the dev team decides to go a different route.
It's a tricky thing to try to make a sequel of a game because I've seen sequels improve a lot over the first game with new worlds and mechanics and get lower review scores while other games sequel have the same world with minor changes but get better review scores. Whatever the days gone developers are making I believe will be a good game because I know they are a good game studio.
Helldivers 2 proves you can make fun live service games that don't feel like they're nickle and diming you. I am optimistic
No, Sony is not allowed to have LS. Everyone else yes, but Sony is not allowed. We wont allow it.
Why? It's obvious at this point of what not to do when making a live service game. Plus you can see from Helldivers 2 that fun games can be made that don't feel like Microtransactions are weighing you or the game down.
For every helldivers 2 there are so many that aren’t good. Let’s not assume every sony live service game is gonna be helldivers 2.
To be fair, while Helldivers 2 has been great and quite successful, its only been out for a month and a half.
Its success from a launch standpoint has already been proven, but whether it succeeds as a Live Service game (in particular as one to be used as a model for others) is not really something we know yet.
The whole point of devs and publishers going for live service is the consistent revenue they provide over several years, not just 1-2 months
It's been obvious for years though. That hasn't stopped dozens of live service games crashing and burning on release for making the same mistakes again and again. This industry doesn't learn.
Why is it automatically bad? Maybe its a good game. I reserve my judgement until we see it.
Unless it is a hit like Helldivers ||, the studio will not survive unfortunately.
That is a lie. They can make a single player that players would claim they want, but would not support. They can make a good live service game like Helldivers 2. As long the game is good and the mtx are not bad, the game will do well. Their last game was a single-player game, yet most only got the game when it was heavily discounted.
Quite unfortunate.
Sony really should not be asking their long time studios to be making these games. Haven, Bungie, fine. Not Bend.
"Not looking to good if it's a live service game."
It´s Amazing news!
It could be a spiritual successor to Syphon Filter with multiplayer/co-op mechanics.
Bring it on, Bend!
I'm going to say this as someone who really enjoyed Days Gone
Why would you go and create an open world, multiplayer game with live service elements if you're previous game which was only a single player title came out flawed?
Wouldn't you want to create a new single player game to refine and fix your last mistakes to master what you were going for the first time before jumping into uncharted territories with online, multiplayer and live service which is a completely different beast entirely.
I can't be the only who thinks this right?
Just seems like your setting yourself up for failure in my opinion, you're giving yourself and your team bigger challenges to overcome in an already oversaturated market, a market where live service games made by people who are used to online and multiplayer are even struggling themselves.
It might be good, who knows, but at the moment it just seems they are biting off more than they can chew.
Isarai is completely right. bend already had wanted to do the sequel which is why the one guy stepped down from their studio because he didn't get to. Their marching orders were to do this from Sony.
Phoenix
That doesn't take away from the fact that when this LS fails , that Bend will be dismantled whether Ryan gave the "marching orders" or not.
Though you are right like Isarai said sony wanted 12 live service games asap they have no say in the matter just work for there over lords like isomiac in there marvel slave factory.
honestly having to make marvel games isn't so bad, there's a diverse lineup of characters to choose from. what's really bad about it is that they have to consult with sweet baby inc about political crap to add to their games or take away from it
@pho
Its not making marvel games its about the leak were even into mid ps6 we wil still be getting spiderman/wolverine from a dev studio that once did infamous and of course the ratchet games.
But no everyday they go to work on 2 ips for the next 8+years
Yup as others mentioned, not up to them.
My only hope now is for Bend to hold on & make it to a time & state that will allow them to properly start working on Days Gone 2.
They just see their competitors profits and want to replicate. They ask all these studios to do something they've never done before and the results are exactly as you would expect (lacking). This has been happening for a decade in the industry. Dice and Battlefront/Battlefield are the best example.
I full expect to see this game announced at SGF.
It's definitely not Days Gone 2 it's a new LS IP. Hope it looks and plays good.
Yup I feel the same. I am never buying into LS crap, no matter how good the game is supposed to be.
If they drop it at 39.99 and a progression system that isn't entirely bogged down by MTX like Helldivers 2 they could have something in general moving forward. However I fell like HD2 may just be an exception to the rule.
You knew for a long time that Days Gone 2 wasn´t coming.
Your outrage makes no sense.
Even if it is, my question is who is going to play all these live service games constantly? Doesn't matter if they are all Helldivers 2 quality, there is only so much time and people tend to dedicate themselves to maybe a couple of service games at a time ( if that ).
Well...yes. however, once you're more or less topped off on one you really only go back for the updates. Or in some cases even once a season starts.
Couldn't care less if it was, I wouldn't be buying it either way. LS is an instant deal breaker for me.
"Couldn't care less if it was, I wouldn't be buying it either way. LS is an instant deal breaker for me."
And Sony couldn´t care less about you or your feelings.
That’s the thing. Why does Helldivers 2 get praised but then this has everyone doomin’ and gloomin’? If we start getting GaaS as a majority of releases people don’t have anyone to blame but themselves for opening this door. I hope most of these GaaS games fail so we can get back to traditional games.
I always ask this question: Why do publishers choose to develop a game with a GaaS design vs just making a traditional game? There’s only one answer and it’s all centered around continual monetization with a dev budget spread thin over many years.
"If we start getting GaaS as a majority of releases people don’t have anyone to blame but themselves for opening this door. I hope most of these GaaS games fail so we can get back to traditional games."
In Sony's case if these LS games fail, major lay offs, studio down sizes and even possible studios shut downs (worse case)
I said this already but if these LS games fail it won't be a glamorous as going back to what they do best. There will be casualties and slow production, shifts and changes. If they succeed, they can make traditional SP games while supporting the LS game. That's the best case scenario.
Buy Bends new game if it looks good, plays good and fun. If it doesn't then don't buy it, no need to force yourself for some agenda.
I think Bends game is releasing next year tbh. I think it's closer than we think.
History says probably not. Almost every live service game fails. Realistically if HD2 is successful the other games likely won't be. Traditionally people dont jump from live service to live service. They find one game they really click with and invest their time and/or money into that.
While personal preference can undoubtedly play a part, allowing studios like Santa Monica, Insomniac and Sucker Punch to take any given fan’s top spot, the numbers supporting Naughty Dog do anything but lie. They’re the best, and you have to deal with it.
The top 5 are correct but in the wrong order IMO.
1. Naughty Dog (Top-tier dev in the industry for story, technology, acting, graphics, and gameplay)
2. Santa Monica (They're in their Naughty Dog top-tier era)
3. Insomniac (unrivaled AAA / blockbuster quantity and quality)
4. Guerilla (4 & 5 can swap places, both are equals IMO, great studios with new hit IPs)
5. Sucker Punch (4 & 5 can swap places, both are equals IMO, great studios with new hit IPs)
6. BluePoint (best remakes and remasters in the industry, just need to make their own "new game")
7. Polyphony (Hasn't evolved as much as the other 5, but still a good overall dev)
8. Sony Bend (they need a few more AAA games under their belt to rival GG / SP)
9. Hosmarque (indie dev turned AA, on the path to becoming AAA)
10. Media Molecule / San Diego Studio / Team Asobi (I wouldn't put any of these 3 above the other. MM has pushed creativity for a PS game to the limits with LBP and Dreams. San Diego mainly does MLB, but also has some good ports under their belt. Team Asobi and AStro are hits)
This is a very simple list to complete. There are no collectibles. Most of everything here is story related with a couple miscellaneous Trophies thrown in. Nothing here can be missed as there is a really helpful rewind feature as well as mission select.
I feel like this comments section helps distinguish the PS ‘old’ fans from the ‘new.’
SNES was my first console, Christmas morning heaven.
I’ve never played SF but I can understand the delight for trophy support 20 years after.
yeah this is one mystery studio from sony....
the last news we got from them, came on november from playstation lifestyle and it indicates that sony bend is working on another AAA vita game base on their job listings
and then its followed on december also by playstation lifestyle and it indicates that their vita game will have multiplayer components...
and then thats it, they are been tightlip since then, i think that game will be announced in E3 ^_^
the question is what game could be it, they says its been on development since after they finished golden abyss
could it be another uncharted, or a proper resistance, a syphon filter or a new ip? what is your guess guys ^_^
give me Gabe Logan or Drake please (vita)
Its just crazy how talented they are! I'd love it if these guys took their experience they did with Resistance and make a 3rd person entry into the resistance franchise on the PS4, It would be a cross between Syphon Filter's stealth and the resistance style and crazy weapons. besides Insomniac, they are the only one's who've done the series justice. The series could find its place in this shooter genre if it became a 3rd person franchise,
They totally captured the grit and tension in the PSP resistance title. i loved it!
I cant wait to see what they are working on for the vita, i loved Golden Abyss and they seem to have a great understanding of handhelds, but its time for Bend to expand to multiple teams and work on the PS4 as well as the Vita.
Damn Shame, fans slept on resistance 3, and the fact that Sony hung Resistance 3 out to dry by not marketing it well enough. :(
Yes.