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PlayStation 4 CPU runs at 2 GHz: rumor

"The AMD-made PlayStation 4 CPU will be clocked at 2 GHz and built on 28 nm process at GlobalFoundries in New York." - PS4Daily

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stuna14096d ago

If true, my body will definately be ready! I would think that would be a nice little bump, with 28nm chips = less heat.

Dylila4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

if true i like it even though i dont know what it means other than being a higher number. as long as it is something that suppose to make the ps4 better im all for it. from what i saw at the ps4 announcement im very excited and amazed so being a better system will enable this system to even push technological boundaries more.

the ps4 displayed better tech ive seen in crysis 3 on pc at very high settings so getting higher specs after what weve seen on lower spec is awesome. ps4 first day

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

i useto be amazed by project cars and crysis 3 and even upgraded my pc to run them but ps4 makes it all seem worthless or unnecessary for my needs.

GiggMan4096d ago

"if true i like it even though i dont know what it means other than being a higher number"

Lol I love your honesty. Are you same person that was so "enlightening" on this article?

http://n4g.com/news/1181637...

MAJ0R4096d ago

2GHz is a fairly low clock speed. My PC from four years ago runs 1000MHz faster. Although it only has 4 cores, and not 8. So the PS4 is going for more cores at lower clock speeds which would only result in more performance if a game is optimized to use all 8 cores.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Why is every article you compare high end pc to a new console?? Have you not been gaming the last 7 years?? Same crap happens every time.

Why didn't you copy and paste this part of the article??

"Just to clarify, I’m not at all suggesting the PS4 will out-pace gaming PCs.

PCs will still be better machines in the end, especially if you are willing to pay. And yes, as I say below, the PC will be more future proof as well."
http://www.forbes.com/sites...

I love what I see with ps4 and it's a day 1 buy for me. It will be a hardcore system for sure.
I will most likely buy anything Naughty Dog makes.

But I like pc also and pc has games despite people saying they are only for multiplats..
And it's not all about graphics I have seen people with gtx 680s play the sh!t out of minecraft and then play BF3.

I like torchlight 2 more than diablo and I think sony games would want this more than diablo 3!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Coming this year.

Why is praising more than one platform a sin??

On topic:
2gz is low. Most cpus now of days are around 2.6ghz - 3.2ghz.

Mobile cpus are never clocked high because is for mobile devices that need to save energy and longer battery life..

Remember console have to be low wattage.
Where as on pc you can over clock the cpu to 4ghz+.

Also I hear ps4 only has one shared l3 cache for all 8 cores.

gaffyh4096d ago

@shutup - The point is, Diablo will be on the system, and that is enough for Sony because they have a game in their portfolio that will appeal to a different type of gamer. In addition to this, if it does well, Torchlight developers may see an opportunity and release a game on PS4 as well.

Dgander4096d ago

Give an idiot enough time they will eventually expose themself lol

fr0sty4096d ago

There are 2GHZ processors that can outrun a 3GHZ with the same number of cores. The number alone does not equal overall power. It is just clock speed. There are a number of other bottlenecks that could come into play reducing a processor with a higher clock to run slower than a processor with a lower clock. The original rumors pegged PS4 as 1.6 to 1.8 GHZ, and we've all seen what the thing can do, so I wouldn't be trashing the CPU just because your desktop or laptop has a faster clock speed. This system is obviously very well balanced, so let's let them show us what it can do.

PLASTICA-MAN4096d ago

The memory got upgraded, the GPU got upgraded, what was left? The CPU. He joins the party.

BrianC62344096d ago

"2GHz is a fairly low clock speed. My PC from four years ago runs 1000MHz faster. Although it only has 4 cores, and not 8. So the PS4 is going for more cores at lower clock speeds which would only result in more performance if a game is optimized to use all 8 cores."

These speeds don't matter that much anymore. A 2GHz CPU was slow for a while but then they stopped going up and we started getting multicore CPUs. If you have eight cores running at 2GHz though that's pretty fast. But there's so much more to look at now than just the speed. It would only matter if Microsoft's CPU was running a lot slower.

-SIXAXIS-4096d ago

In response to some of the other replies to your post, I feel like I need to clear up something about clock speed: the clock speed of a processor doesn't necessarily reflect the performance of the CPU.

The clock speed of a CPU tells you the rate at which it can execute instructions. So a clock at 1 MHz will fire 1 million times per second.

In terms of a CPU the clock speed is generally related to the amount of time it takes to perform instructions.

However, the reason that this isn't a good representation of the CPU speed is that different CPUs have different instructions and can do different things in different amounts of time.

So for example, let's say you have a 2 GHz Pentium 4 and a 1.5 GHz i7. And let's say the Pentium 4 takes 2 cycles to add 2 numbers (this is probably untrue, but I'm using it as an example), whereas the i7 takes 1. That means that the Pentium 4 will be slower in finishing the operation even though its clock speed is faster.

For more information about this, Google the "Megahertz myth".

ProjectVulcan4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

AMD claim that a top Jaguar quad core is 260 percent faster than a top end Bobcat dual core http://news.softpedia.com/n... (its predecessor.) A Bobcat dual core like an E-350 is just under half the performance of a basic 2008 Intel Pentium dual core E2200. Maybe a quad core Jaguar is like an E2200.

The biggest native design is the quad core with 2mb L2 cache.

So for PS4, word is it is a pair of quad cores, with 2mb cache each, welded together.

So 8 cores, or probably 7 for games @ 2ghz if Sony reserve one.

Its a low power architecture designed for the mobile segment, although the quad core variant is really intended for netbook/nettop scale applications.

It will probably be just shy of a modern Intel Ivy Bridge Dual Core desktop x86 PC CPU or a Quad cluster AMD piledriver.

Compared to a modern Intel quad core like a Core i5 3570k for example or a 8 cluster Piledriver like an FX-8350 it will be most likely be a bit under half their performance.

Although Intel do have a totally new, Haswell architecture arriving in around June of this year which will give Piledriver (and Ivy bridge of course) a good duffing up.

solar4096d ago

Love dat notebook budget cpu's. They scream powerful technology

PurpHerbison4096d ago

I applaud your trolling, but people are catching on. Tighten it up a bit!

slayorofgods4096d ago

"Compared to a modern Intel quad core like a Core i5 3570k for example or a 8 cluster Piledriver like an FX-8350 it will be most likely be a bit under half their performance."

Good to know, I've eyed both those cpus as they are both in a affordable price range. But, I don't need to be cutting edge unless that is where gaming is heading. Two good cpu's.. but when will gaming really take advantage of that sort of power? When it actually seems viable I will take the jump, but I have a feeling I will stay put with PS4 type of gaming power for a while..

Random question..
I read a while back that for gaming (at least to start the last generation) that the magic number for gaming performance is/was a 3 core cpu to maximize actual game play. I know 7 cores is better for multitasking and doing things besides strict gameplay. But when it comes to actual gameplay how does a 8 core cpu @ 2.0ghz, stack up against say a amd quad core @3.2ghz?

RyuCloudStrife4096d ago

@GiggMan

Thats a quote directly from the article... apparently you didn't read it just like all PC fanboys.

RegorL4096d ago

@slayerofgods "I read a while back that for gaming (at least to start the last generation) that the magic number for gaming performance is/was a 3 core cpu to maximize actual game play. ... But when it comes to actual gameplay how does a 8 core cpu @ 2.0ghz, stack up against say a amd quad core @3.2ghz?"

Games have been written for what is common out there. Thus very few games utilizes AMD Bulldozer. But with PS4 this will change - suddenly an 8 core CPU will be one of the most common...

Counting raw cycles
AMD Quad 4*3.2 = 12.8
AMD PS4 8*2.0 = 16.0
PS3 SPE 6*3.2 = 19.2

Next question, how many cycles will each operation take? On a modern CPU most instructions execute in a single cycle. But it does not stop there, as modern processor process a set of data every cycle, as most are SIMD architectures. What is worse is that a CPU often have to wait for memory, costing hundreds of cycles. PS4 looks very balanced in this regard, PS3 was not.

LightofDarkness4096d ago

Look at the latest Cyrsis 3 benchmarks to see how an AMD 8-core design (FX-8350) can rival the highest end Ivy-Bridge (3770k) in gaming performance, despite costing much less (it's also interesting to note just how little of an effect hyper-threading has in this situation). It just goes to show you that once games actually start utilizing multiple threads efficiently, we should start seeing very favorable performance gains for more cores in the old cores v.s. clocks debate.

Again, this is great news for all PC owners with multi-core processors, especially if those CPUs have higher clock speeds.

It will also be interesting to see how PS4 to PC ports will perform on a very AMD platform (GCN2.0 GPU, FX-8xxx series CPU, 8-16GB DDR3). You could see a much quicker turnaround for ports and even more impressive performance than we typically see with console ports.

TopDudeMan4096d ago

It doesn't really matter that much that it's only 2GHz (even though it does have 8 cores). In terms of performance, the CPU will never be the bottleneck. The graphics and RAM are much more important for performance. As far as I'm concerned, 2GHz would be sufficient - if it is true.

mistertwoturbo4095d ago (Edited 4095d ago )

Clock speed is only one element of a CPU.

A 3.5GHZ i5-3570 has far more performance than something like a 4GHZ FX-8350 in individual IPC.

Architecture is very important.

Right now in the PC games world, there are only a hand full of games that utilize more than 4 threads. Crysis 3 is probably the best example that uses 8 threads pretty well.

I'm pretty sure that all PS4 games will always utilize all 8 cores as much as they can to extract as much performance as they can.

So having 8 cores even though it is clocked low, will still be more than sufficient. Things like physics, destruction, effects etc. will be handled by the GPU.

slayorofgods4095d ago

"A 3.5GHZ i5-3570 has far more performance than something like a 4GHZ FX-8350 in individual IPC."

Thats is very true, especially with multitasking. From what I'm hearing here so far its seems like AMD actually made a really smart move by putting a 8 core cpu in the PS4. If the 720 also gets a 8 core cpu, then games will be built to take advantage of 8 cores over 4 cores with hyper-threading. That could keep AMD slightly ahead with pure gaming.

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joab7774096d ago

Exactly, the apu architecture allows for less heat. It also allows for the ps4 to be much more than the sum of its parts. It is strange though to change this and add 4 gb of memory to dev kits that have supposedly been available for 5 yrs. Dont get me wrong, its great for games that will be coming out in 2015 and beyond but doesnt that mean that sonys greatest launch lineup ever have been using inferior dev kiys for years. Some developer at the meeting and all of the leaks talked about 4 gb, so unless theres a mad dash, launch titles wont be using near the actual power of the ps4.

grassyknoll4096d ago

Almost all developer kits are unfinished till 6 months before, happens to every console. Compare Uncharted 1 to Uncharted 3 for example!

Dark_Overlord4096d ago

"Almost all developer kits are unfinished till 6 months before,"

Even then the dev kits are updated throughout the console life cycle, like when Sony reduced the OS over heads to allow the devs more resources :)

KwietStorm_BLM4096d ago

Dev kits been available for 5 years? How could that even be possible?

Sharingan_no_Kakashi4096d ago

PS4DAILY??????

Wonder how long this site has been around...

Ju4096d ago

Would be nice if true. But they also say it's the new GPU 4.5x faster than the RSX which they evaluate at 400MFlops...which isn't true. So, who knows.

Just_The_Truth4096d ago

What would you like to talk about? The non existent XBOX720 or maybe the WiiU and all the games coming out right now......

hobohunterz4096d ago

It the bottom of the site its trademarked 2013 LOL

user39158004096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

N4G should be shut down for posting garbage article like this one, sony already stated officially it will run at 1.6ghz. Never mind, Its time to move on from a site that it all about flamebait hits from trolls anyways, most are sony trolls see below for facts.

1886afc4096d ago

Thank you kind sir for pointing that out to all the delusion fanboys on here.

hobohunterz4096d ago

Sony never actually realeased the clock speed of the cpu they just stated that its a:

"Single-chip custom processor
CPU : x86-64 AMD “Jaguar”, 8 cores"

Sevir4096d ago

They, just said how many cores and the x86 CPU and the 8gig of unified memory.

Mikeyy4096d ago

Exactly, People are just googling up completely different hardware and throwing numbers around to try and make the PS4 look like its weaker then an Iphone.

You people are pathetic. that is all.

People seriously believe Sony would make a brand new console that only has the processing power of a netbook?

Watch MS announce an AMD 8 Core also, and all these fake websites will be created instantly to write fake articles about how the 720 features a state of the art $400 CPU.

Calling it now.

andibandit4096d ago

1.6 or 2GHz, it's still too little, i almost have the sum of those 2 in my PC.

joeorc4096d ago

"Sony never actually realeased the clock speed of the cpu they just stated that its a:

"Single-chip custom processor
CPU : x86-64 AMD “Jaguar”, 8 cores""

100% agreement the Official PDF for the spec's does not mention the clock speed

https://secure.webassets.sc...

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Tsar4ever014096d ago

So much about sony saying a while back, the next gen console will be no more than 2 times as powerful than the ps3. Man, how times change and minds during dev cycles.

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Link0794096d ago

Who BLOODY CARES,if you can have great graphics for the next say 6 years i'm happy and all 3 will have NEXTGEN graphics.

It's the Talent/Art race NEXTGEN.

Link0794096d ago

Just show us the games my next game is HANDS DOWN LEGO CITY WiiU,and NFS MOST WANTED U.

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monkpunk14095d ago

Wow, incredible, outstanding omfg!..... I don't care, I don't even know what this means, tbh. i'm not a games developer, I just play the damn things and I have been playing them since the days of the Spectrum! So long as I can plug it in switch it on and connect it to my tv and play the newest good looking games from my sofa, and of course the thing doesn't explode or something. I really couldn't give a shit! Leave all that techno cock measuring to the nerds, but take it away from me.

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ArmGunar4096d ago

2Ghz with 8 cores ...

Add to this, 8 GB DDR5 unified

TemplarDante4096d ago

2GHz * 8 cores
8GB unified DDR5
+ 18CU GPU and CGN 2 0 :)

DigitalSmoke4096d ago

Thats almost two extra cores, out of the blue.
Free OS SON!!!

Yodagamer4096d ago

With an 8-core processor, upgraded architecture, and gpgpu support. 2ghz is more than enough.

tachy0n4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

it is enough right now, but if sony wants to give the PS4 a long life it better be at least 2.8 or 3GHz for 4K in a good quality and frame rate.

LessThan2Tflops4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

My ps3 CELL is 3GHz , why you so slow amd

dafegamer4096d ago

are you seriously comparing the ps3 and ps4 in power?

solid_warlord4096d ago

So PS3 has 3.2 Ghz along with xbox 360. Doesn't that make the next gen slower?

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Arai4096d ago

Actually that's great news and seems credible.
2GHz --> 4GHz with AMD TurboCore I believe, so for general computing tasks it's better than Cell.

N0S3LFESTEEM4096d ago

Turbo core won't double the clock rate... if they even implement it you'll be looking at about 2.2-2.4ghz.

cleft54096d ago

I am not incredibly tech savvy, so is this good and why?

Double_O_Revan4096d ago

Because the initial rumors stated that the clock speed would be 1.8ghz on a already 8 core processor, was pretty good. Now it'll have an extra bump in speed, which is very nice. Also on a smaller chipset, it'll produce less heat and use less power.

Walker4096d ago

Too good, PS4 will be an epic beast !

punisher994096d ago

Lets see if I can help you. The PS3's cell processor originally was a 90nm chip-set. When the 80gb PS3 came, the model without the PS2 B/C. its cell processor was downsized to 65nm. When the PS3 slim came, its CPU again was downsized to 45nm. By downsizing you are making the chip much more energy efficient which in turn means it produces less heat inside. If the PS4 comes out with only a 28nm cpu, that would be extremely impressive for a 1st generation PS4 console.

Capodastaro4096d ago (Edited 4096d ago )

Who knows at this stage...

Its like saying, this car which by the way is hidden from your view has a turbo charged V8 super car engine in... The car could be a sleek sports car, but it could also be a garbage truck filled with set concrete.

Without knowing how many transistors it has, what voltage it runs at or how many instructions per second it can theoretically calculate, its hard to guess.

2Ghz just means that an oscillator has a set frequency of 2000000000 per second which the CPU uses to get a sync reference to compute instructions.

But the smaller die size is a plus, but could be bordering on thermal density, its been proven once you get to the 20s in nanometer design, dies start to dissipate heat less efficiently, Intel's Ivy Bridge being a good example, running at 22nm we've basically started to reach a plateau for heat dissipation vs efficiency until more new eficient silicon compounds are created

joeorc4096d ago

great post!

you also an engineer?

because that was freaking spot on!

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AMD gaming revenue declined massively year-over-year, CFO says the demand is 'weak'

Poor Xbox sales have affected AMD’S bottom line

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RonsonPL13d ago

Oh wow. How surprising! Nvidia overpriced their RTX cards by +100% and AMD instead of offering real competition, decided to join Nvidia in their greedy approach, while not having the same mindshare as Nvidia (sadly) does. The 7900 launch was a marketing disaster. All the reviews were made while the card was not worth the money at all, they lowered the price a bit later on, but not only not enough but also too late and out of "free marketing" window coming along with the new card generation release. Then the geniuses at AMD axed the high-end SKUs with increased cache etc, cause "nobody will buy expensive cards to play games" while Nvidia laughed at them selling their 2000€ 4090s.
Intel had all the mindshare among PC enthusiasts with their CPUs. All it took was a competetive product and good price (Ryzen 7000 series and especially 7800x3d) and guess what? AMD regained the market share in DYI PCs in no time! The same could've have happened with Radeon 5000, Radeon 6000 and Radeon 7000.
But meh. Why bother. Let's cancell high-end RDNA 4 and use the TSMC wafers for AI and then let the clueless "analysts" make their articles about "gaming demand dwingling".

I'm sure low-end, very overpriced and barely faster if not slower RDNA4 will turn things around. It will have AI and RT! Two things nobody asked for, especially not gamers who'd like to use the PC for what's most exciting about PC gaming (VR, high framerate gaming, hi-res gaming).
8000 series will be slow, overpriced and marketed based on its much improved RT/AI... and it will flop badly.
And there will be no sane conclusions made at AMD about that. There will be just one, insane: Gaming is not worth catering to. Let's go into AI/RT instead, what could go wrong..."

Crows9013d ago

What would you say would be the correct pricing for new cards?

Very insightful post!

RonsonPL13d ago

That's a complicated question. Depends on what you mean. The pricing at the release date or the pricing planned ahead. They couldn't just suddenly end up in a situation where their existing stock of 6000 cards is suddenly unsellable, but if it was properly rolled out, the prices should be where they were while PC gaming industry was healthy. I recognize the arguments about inflation, higher power draw and PCB/BOM costs, more expensive wafers from TSMC etc. but still, PC gaming needs some sanity to exist and be healthy. Past few years were very unhealthy and dangerous to whole PC gaming. AMD should recognize this market is very good for them as they have advantage in software for gaming and other markets while attractive short term, may be just too difficult to compete at. AI is the modern day gold rush and Nvidia and Intel can easily out-spend AMD on R&D. Meanwhile gaming is tricky for newcomers and Nvidia doesn't seem to care that much about gaming anymore. So I would argue that it should be in AMDs interest to even sell some Radeon SKUs at zero profit, just to prevent the PC gaming from collapsing. Cards like 6400 and 6500 should never exist at their prices. This tier was traditionally "office only" and priced at 50$ in early 2000s. Then we have Radeons 7600 which is not really 6-tier card. Those were traditionally quite performant cards based on wider than 128-bit memory bus. Also 8GB is screaming "low end". So I'd say the 7600 should've been available at below 200$ (+taxes etc.) as soon as possible, at least for some cheaper SKUs.For faster cards, the situation is bad for AMD, because people spending like $400+ are usually fairly knowledgable and demanding. While personally I don't see any value in upscallers and RT for 400-700$ cards, the fact is that especially DLSS is a valuable feature for potential buyers. Therefore, even 7800 and 7900 cards should be significantly cheaper than they currently are. People knew what they were paying for when buying Radeon 9700, 9800, X800, 4870 etc. They were getting gaming experience truly unlike console or low-end PC gaming. By all means, let's have expensive AMD cards for even above $1000, but first, AMD needs to show value. Make the product attractive. PS5 consoles can be bought at 400$. If AMD offers just a slightly better upscalled image on the 400$ GPU, or their 900$ GPU cannot even push 3x as many fps compared to cheap consoles, the pricing acts like cancer on PC gaming. And poor old PC gaming can endure only so much.

MrCrimson13d ago

I appreciate your rant sir, but it has very little to do with gpus. It is the fact that the PS5 and Xbox are in end cycle before a refresh.

RonsonPL12d ago

Yes, but also no. AMD let their PC GPU marketshare to shrink by a lot (and accidentally helped the whole market shrink in general due to bad value of PC GPUs over the years) and while their console business may be important here, I'd still argue their profits from GPU division could've been much better if not for mismanagement.

bababooiy13d ago

This is something many have argued over the last few years when it comes to AMD. The days of them selling their cards at a slight discount while having a similar offering are over. Its not just a matter of poor drivers anymore, they are behind on everything.

RNTody12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Great post. I went for a Nvidia RTX 3060Ti which was insane value for money when I look at the fidelity and frame rates I can push in most games including new releases. Can't justify spending 3 times what my card cost at the time to get marginal better returns or the big sell of "ray tracing", which is a nice to have feature but hardly essential given what it costs to maintain.

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KwietStorm_BLM13d ago

Well that's gonna happen when you don't really try. I want to support AMD so badly and give Nvidia some actual competition but they don't very much seem interested in challenging, by their own accord. I been waiting for them to attack the GPU segment the same way they took over CPU, but they just seem so content with handing Nvidia the market year after year, and it's happening again this year with their cancelled high end card.

MrCrimson13d ago

I think you're going to see almost zero interest from AMD or Nvidia on the gaming GPU market. They are all in on AI.

RhinoGamer8813d ago

No Executive bonuses then...right?

enkiduxiv13d ago

What are smoking? Got to layoff your way to those bonuses. Fire 500 employees right before Christmas. That should get you there.

Tapani13d ago (Edited 13d ago )

Well, if you are 48% down in Q4 in your Gaming sector as they are, which in absolute money terms is north of 500M USD, then you are not likely to get at least your quarterly STI, but can be applicable for annual STI. The LTI may be something you are still eligible for, such as RSUs or other equity and benefits, especially if they are based on the company total result rather than your unit. All depends on your contract and AMD's reward system.

MrCrimson13d ago

Lisa Su took AMD from bankruptcy to one of the best semiconductor companies on the planet. AMD from 2 dollars a share to 147. She can take whatever she wants.

Tapani12d ago

You are not wrong about what she did for AMD and that is remarkable. However, MNCs' Rewards schemes do not work like "take whatever you want, because you performed well in the past".

darksky13d ago

AMD prcied their cards thinking that they will sell out just like in the mining craze. I suspect reality has hit home when they realized most gamers cannot afford to spend over $500 for a gpu.

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Make your next GPU upgrade AMD as these latest-gen Radeon cards receive a special promotion

AMD has long been the best value option if you're looking for a new GPU. Now even their latest Radeon RX 7000 series is getting cheaper.

Father__Merrin23d ago

Best for the money is the Arc cards

just_looken23d ago

In the past yes but last gen amd has gotten cheaper and there new cards are on the horizon making 6k even cheaper.

The arc cards are no longer made by intel but asus/asrock has some the next line battlemage is coming out prices tbd.

Do to the longer software development its always best to go amd over intel if its not to much more money even though intel is a strong gpu i own 2/4 card versions.

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AMD FSR 3.1 Announced at GDC 2024, FSR 3 Available and Upcoming in 40 Games

Last September, we unleashed AMD FidelityFX™ Super Resolution 3 (FSR 3)1 on the gaming world, delivering massive FPS improvements in supported games.

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Eonjay54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

So to put 2 and 2 together... FSR 3.1 is releasing later this year and the launch game to support it is Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart. In Sony's DevNet documentation it shows Rachet and Clank: Rift Apart as the example for PSSR. PS5 Pro also launches later this year... but there is something else coming too: AMD RDNA 4 Cards (The very same technology thats in the Pro). So, PSSR is either FSR 3.1 or its a direct collaboration with AMD for that builds on FSR 3.1. Somehow they are related. I think PSSR is FSR 3.1 with the bonus of AI... now lets see if RDNA 4 cards also include an AI block.

More details:
FSR 3.1 fixes Frame Generation
If you have a 30 series RTX card you can now use DLSS3 with FSR Frame Generation (No 40 Series required!)
Its Available on all Cards (we assume it will come to console)
Fixes Temporal stability

MrDead53d ago

I've been using a mod that allows dlss frame gen on my 3080 it works on all rtx series. It'll be good not to rely on mods for the future.

darksky53d ago

The mods avaiable are actually using FSR3 frame gen but with DLSS or FSR2 upscaling.

Babadook753d ago (Edited 53d ago )

I think that the leaks about the 5 Pro would debunk the notion that the two (FSR 3.1 and PSSR) are the same technology. PSSR is a Sony technology.

MrDead54d ago (Edited 54d ago )

I wonder how much they fixed the ghosting in dark areas as Nvidia are leaving them in the dust with image quality. Still good that they are improving in big leaps, I'll have to see when the RTX5000 series is released who I go with... at the moment the RTX5000's are sounding like monsters.

just_looken53d ago

Did you see the dell leaks were they are trying to cool cards using over 1k watts of power.

We are going to need 220 lines for next gen pcs lol

MrDead53d ago

That's crazy! Sounds like heating my house won't be a problem next winter.

porkChop53d ago

As much as I hate supporting Nvidia, AMD just doesn't even try to compete. Their whole business model is to beat Nvidia purely on price. But I'd rather pay for better performance and better features. AMD also doesn't even try to innovate. They just follow Nvidia's lead and make their own version of whatever Nvidia is doing. But they're always 1 or 2 generations behind when it comes to those software/driver innovations, so Nvidia is always miles ahead in quality and performance.

MrDead53d ago

I do a lot of work on photoshop so an Intel Nvidia set up has been the got to because of performance edge, more expensive but far more stable too. Intel also have the edge over AMD processors with better load distribution on the cores, less spikes and jitters. When you're working large format you don't want lag or spikes when you're editing or drawing.

I do think AMD has improved massively though and whist I don't think they threaten Nvidia on the tech side they do make very well priced cards and processors for the power. I'm probably going with a 5080 or 5090 but AMD will get a little side look from me, which is a first in a long time... but like you said they are a generation or two behind at the moment.

Goosejuice52d ago

While I can't argue for amd gpu, they aren't bad but they aren't great either. The cpu for amd have great. I would argue the 7800x3d as one of the best cpu for gaming right now. Idk about editing so I take ur word for that but gaming amd cpu is a great option these days.

porkChop52d ago

@Goosejuice

I have a 7800X3D. It certainly is great for gaming. Though for video editing, rendering, etc, I think Intel have the advantage from what I remember. I just mean from a GPU standpoint I can't support them.