Analyst: Wii Owners Will Buy PS3 At Xmas, 2008 is PS3's Year, Expect Another Price Cut

iSuppli analyst Pamela Tufegdzic believes that 2008 is shaping up to be PlayStation 3's turn in the spotlight. She believes 2008 will be a turning year for the PS3 with a better lineup of games on the way likely to boost console sales. She also said that they "anticipate Sony will have another price slash on the PS3 this year, and come Christmas, consumers who originally bought the Wii will likely purchase the PS3."

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

when people start seeing LBP, the PS EYEs capabilitys and HOME.

(not to mention KZ2, RFOM2, MGS4,GT5)

wow.

it`ll be $299 soon enough and moving more units than you`ll have thought possible.

it outsold the 360 in 2007 being almost $300 more expensive.

what do you think will happen when it`s $199-$250?

PS3 will sell more than PS2.

this is what they were talking about when they were talking LONG TERM.

by this time next year it will have sold 30-40 million plus.

this is gonna be crazy.

[TheWickedOne]

I love Sony but 30-40 by this time next year. I highly doubt it.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

40 might be a BIT high.

but i think it can do 30, FOR SURE.

around GTA sales will RISE LOTS.

and then it`s a steady flow of unbelievable SOFTWARE.

i think 30 can happen.

we shall find out soon enough.

[ruibing]

The momentum has finally turned in Sony's favor. They have restructured their entire company, reestablished a good outlook on the PS3 from the mass media, and furnished an impressive Playstation lineup for 2008 (and 2009 I suppose). Not bad considering it has been playing catch up to rival consoles as a victim of circumstances since day one.

[iamtehpwn]

30-40 million?
No.
Wii could pull out 30-40 million this year, but its Sells Were the highest of any console for years.

Though I'm no Fanboy, I own a 360, Ps3, and Wii, and love them all...

So. Peace. Love..and...FFVII Remakes :D

[mikeslemonade]

Here is one of the reasons why Wii owners will buy PS3: Solid Snake is in Super Smash Brawl, so Wii owners who play this game will be curious about who this character is and will want to play MGS4 and that's only on the PS3 for the time being. The highly theorized MGS4 port will not come out in 2008.

[KeiZka]

@Mike:

Perhaps they get curious if they have money readily available. Which most people don't have at such quantities... Also, I doubt parents are going to get a PS3 to their children that easily as they get Wii. Snake can do only so much, and I strongly doubt it'd make "casuals" to jump into PS3 bandwagon.

[sephiroths_revenge]

I expect TGS to reval a FFVII Remake and Chrocno ressurectio

[-EvoAnubis-]

I wonder what will happen to this story once it's approved?

[-EvoAnubis-]

I guess I have my answer.

[Silver360]

will any game system be brought in huge numbers then?

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

cause thats a good one.

[brodels]

recession or not, the system will still sell well. You have to consider how long the recession will last, and how many of the people that it will affect are also those who would potentially buy a ps3. sooner or later, those marginal consumers will buy their ps3. consider the possible price cut too.

[Silver360]

it must have a mass market to sell to. You do understand that economically the US is in the toilet. The pound is almost $3US and the Euro is $2. The value of an american dollar keeps shrinking. The country is losing jobs left and right to China, India and Vietnam. Most people here are living off of their credit cards. It is not a good look for food much less gaming.

[Adamalicious]

What metrics did you use to decide that the US is going into a recession? Listening to the media?

Maybe this will help:

http://useconomy.about.com/...

In the event of an actual recession I'd buy more games to cheer myself up :)

[InYourMom]

when the 360 offers more family games than the PS3 as well as strong parental controls, unlike the PS3 which are almost non-existent.

Do you think the people throwing around a Wiimote without an HDD or HD output will want to play the hardcore lineup the PS3 has or for Blu-ray HD movies?

LittleBigPlanet can have some "Wii appeal" but it's not enough.

Sorry, another analyst predicition going nowhere.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

But that just makes me look stupid...most of the WII owners were and still is PS2 owners.....LET ME SAY THIS AGAIN..THE XBOT will cap out at 20 to 25 million...ARE YOU LISTEN ????

[gambare]

Because it got what the 360 doesn't have this year:

Good games

[Kleptic]

he owns both dude...leave him alone...just because he seems to be pro-MS most of the time...he is hardly a 'xbot' or whatever the hell that means...

in either case...this analyst is targeting a part of the Wii owner club that is pretty much impossible to predict...If he is talking about the fad'ish Wii crowd that is purchasing it because Oprah played with it...I doubt they would have interest in any other platform except for the DS...if he is talking about the gaming crowd of Wii owners, that could go either way...some may buy a 360...some may buy a PS3...that all depends on what games they want to play, and if they have any interest in HD movies...

Grandparents keep buying the Wii...I doubt they would have any interest in a PS3 or 360...despite the 360 having 'more family oriented games' (not sure on that one dude...or what that even means...the PS3 will have by far the most variety, and that is what interests a family...as in several different people will be using the system regularly)

[blade402]

Sir you are wrong. Most people who own a wii only, atleast the ones that i know, are also looking for a "real" console. They will choose the ps3 because of final fantasy and the fact that they had a ps2. Seriously thought trust me on this one... ff13 will move systems. Not to mention 2008 ps3 exclusives > 360's

[ruibing]

Actually the 360's top selling games are FPS and oriented towards the teen and young adult demographics.

If we are talking about a console that will cover every the Wii lacks, which are multimedia capabilities, HDD, etc, it has to be the PS3. It has something for everyone. In terms of mass market appeal, reliability, and brand name recognition, the PS3 goes much better with the Wii.

[XxZxX]

Kleptic, Leave him alone, are you kidding?? He is one of the most offensive XBOX 360 fanboy in this open forum. Don't think we can leave him alone.

BTW back to topic, PS3 has BLU-RAY and cost $50 more than XBOX 360. Playstation brand has reputation of variety of games which might help PS3. And the best of all, XBOX 360 has RROD problem. Who want to go XBOX 360 unless you are hardcore player and you get towel trick it yourself

[chaosatom333]

what game on xbox does have wii appeal? none is the answer

[InYourMom]

@1.1 - Do you think if you type it in capital letter's it will become true? Are you comparing the original Xbox to come to this number? Are you a fortune teller? You seem so sure in your anti-360/MS predictions maybe you should take this analysts job you are probably as reliable.

@1.2 - Nice blanket statement. The 360 will receive all the multiplatform games the PS3 will and then you have games like Gears 2, Ninja Gaiden 2, etc, etc.. I am not going to list them all out. The PS3 is "shooting it's wad this year" and yes they do have a nice line-up this year, just like the 360 in 07. That doesn't mean more great games aren't coming.

@1.3 - Thanks and yes I am a multi-console owner and I think the 360 is being written off way too easy now.

@1.4 - Total opposite of what I'm seeing. All the Wii owners I know besides a couple hardcores who own 360/Wii since launch are just fine with WiiSports and are not looking for a PS3. The casuals that Nintendo got with the Wii are a tough bunch to predict like Kleptic said.

@1.5 - The 360 offers everything multimedia wise that the PS3 does except Blu-ray and is a much more user friedly console. Reliabilty and market share are in Sony favor.

@1.6 - Dude, how many names have I been called in this thread and you are telling me I'm the most offensive in this thread? I state my OPINION, it's not like any of the words in any of these comment sections mean sh!t. You are a droid and of course you won't take offense to your fellow droids. You just nod your head like a sheep to whatever is positive for the PS3.

@1.7 - Read this link:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/g...
It is entire lists of games that have potential "Wii appeal".

[XxZxX]

i'm not talking about this thread, i'm talking about your overall comment. Don't pretend to be innocent.

[CRIMS0N_W0LF]

Now that Blu-Ray won most casual will buy PS3 for Blu-Ray player and 2nd as console.

[PimpHandHappy]

look in the mirror and repeat this line to yourself and make sure you look hard at yourself

"Sorry, another analyst predicition going nowhere"

Here is one to think about inyourmom

Disney makes blueray movies that are based for kids. Can the 360 play HiDef movies? And are you for real in saying the 360 is family friendly? Thats rich dude

I dont know but maybe you 4get kids like handhelds and the PSP has plenty of games for the kiddies. They can hook it up to there PS3 and there HD TV and play the games on a full screen...

Then watch Cars in blueray

[InYourMom]

hrm.. (thinks for minute)

Do you know Disney also makes these thing's called DVD?

I am totally for real on the 360 is family friendly. That is an arguement that is getting old. Yes, they do cater heavily to the hardcore but they also have worked really hard on getting family games. One just needs to look at the list of Xbox Live arcade titles to see a ton of family games.

Yes, kids do like handhelds but they are playing the DS.

I'm going to generalize a bit here and say that the casual market is not as into HD and Blu-ray and HDTV's as you think. If you are going out and buying 2 game machines you are not in that casual market anymore. Most families I know with children that are right in the Wii target market don't need or want more than one game machine.

I hate to send you to xbox.com but just check this link out if you want to see the family side of the 360. Not to mention the community events like "Family Game Nights" that happen a couple times a month.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/g...

Can you point me to Sony's family page? I know they have them but it doesn't seem to be a big focus like it is for the 360.

EDIT: @1.1 - Many of the kids playing the Wii weren't even born in the years of the PS2 dominance. You seem to have your demographics all screwed up. Yes, will your brilliance I can see why you didn't agree with me. (rolls eyes) Do you think a kid watching Blues Clues on TV is worrying about whether it's 720p or 1080p or SD?

@2.2 - DVD dead in 3 years? We aren't talking cassette tapes here dude. Did the BR win or all the good news make Sony hardcores dillusional? Everyone is going to sell their Wii's and buy PS3's and all media formats but Blu-ray are going to be dead? Wow!

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

will be completely gone in 3 years.

[PS360WII]

ha Anego how do you figure that when there are still VHS tapes still being mass produced?

[MiniMii]

Thats what the analyst is pointing at, dumb xbot.
Obviously the grandpa and grandmom arent gonna bother with a PS3 unless they are movie lovers.

The original group who bought the wii are hardcore gamers. Nintendo fans. They will buy a PS3 yes. The line up is just too good.

And why would they not turn to the 360? Why would they bother buying a crapbox that offers nothing to them? Also by the end of 2008, the 360 is lagging behind in third place. Buying a 360 would be the same as buying a HD DVD: plain stupid.

There is also a group who bought a wii when it came out. Got disappointed and then bought a 360 cos they hated sonys pricing. These are the gametrailer morons (literally the guys working there). These are the idiots who end up wasting hard earned cash cos the 360 is dead in the water.

Go ahead and laugh at them.

As for DVD, DVD will slowly die. DVD is not in competition with Blu ray. Blu ray is the next gen format and chosen to be the successor for DVD. DVD will be phased out slowly and make room for Blu ray. Blu ray is the future, like it or not, xbots.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

NOT MASS PRODUCED.

c,mon.

it`s NOT even CLOSe to the #s of DVDs currently being produced.

[blade402]

PS360WII, what are you an alabaster retard?! LOL

dvd pwns vhs. VHS "mass produced" lol wtf are you smoking?

[ruibing]

MS already knew it was behind on Sony in terms of being family friendly. The whole reason they made Viva Pinata was to go after that market. Sony doesn't need a link for this image.

But if you need one, here you go:

http://www.joystiq.com/2006...

[Lionsguard]

VHS tapes are still only being made to record live TV recordings which is still the easiest and most effective way to record. No major Hollywood movies are released in this format. DVDs are a different matter they only have the major advantage of being a cheap data recordable format only until Blank Blu-Ray discs are offered and yes it will happen and once it does happen DVDs will fade away but maybe not completely disappear but definitely be an artifact format since why buy a recordable disc format that only offers 8gb of storage when you can buy a Blu-Ray storage format that has 50+? VHS will still be the easiest way to record live tv though..but then again theres now DVR.

[Kleptic]

InYourMom...MS has made the mistake of trying to make a 'family oriented genre'...which does not, and will never, exist...

the focus of every playstation related product has always been on variety...variety in itself is what makes a particular console 'family oriented'...the little Billy wants to play some action game...Tina wants to play singstar...the dad plays something totally awesome, and mom can't figure out how to even turn the damn thing on, let alone play a game on it...

so yeah...you can't find any Playstation platform's family oriented stuff...the entire library has stuff to offer for each member of the family...which is exactly what makes it appealing to parents that have several kids...its not something Sony stole from anybody...Nintendo still manages to do that with younger kids...MS is trying to sell this downloadable arcade stuff, and because its not blood and guts everywhere...sell it as something for the family...but no family even knows about that stuff...they don't walk into Wal-Mart and see it on the shelf...they don't see it yet for the PS3 either, but with the amount of crap coming from basically every single genre concievable...that will change pretty quickly...

[PS360WII]

what's so hard to see that VHS, though crude old tech, is still being used by many?

[InYourMom]

"Original wii buyers are not casual gamers."

They may be hardcore Nintendo fanboys but I don't see any evidence that they are PS2 owners or potential PS3 buyers. Wii's success has come from the casual market, if you can't see that then you shouldn't be saying things like "dumb xbot". The real hardcores already bought a Wii and PS3, they don't wait.

@Kleptic: Then fine, they will buy a PS2. The PS3 without backwards compatibility doesn't offer a very large family oriented selection; and this article is in fact about the PS3.

[MiniMii]

VHS is still being used but is it where the MONEY IS AT?

If it was, then why did CD overtake it in the first place.

Just like how DVD replaced the CD, which is still being used btw, so will Blu ray replace DVD. Yes, blu ray. Not HD DVD (common knowledge now but I laugh at you idiots who disagreed last year) and not Digital downloads.

@inyourmom
So? Do you have to have a PS2 first before you can buy a PS3? Dumbass. Nintendo fans are gamers, they bought the wii initially (cos they got sucked into the hype) for the games thinking after zelda and that katana game and wii sports many other games would follow. They were wrong. They know they are wrong. They still waited for galaxy and smash brawl. After that, they will get a different console to satisfy their lack of games. That console being PS3.

360 simply cant match the PS3 this year.

[TruthBTold]

go to a place where people usually do their shopping like best buy. http://www.bestbuy.com/site... there are no VHS so I dont think it is that popular compared to DVD and how people are now moving to HD which would be Blu ray. I think some Wii players will move this year to a different kind of video game system but that can happen at any moment and any year. I believe they will move to mostly PS3 compared to 360 because of the games that are coming out for PS3. No one can deny the great lineup that PS has for this year compared to Wii and Xbox. Think about it, if you were gonna buy a new system THIS year (2008) wouldnt you consider what games you will be playing for the system? Of course there will be some that dont buy a new system a some that buy a 360 and some that buy a handheld but the PS3 just has the best offer this year to attrack more buyers then the rest.

InYourMom: If you have a ps3 why did you have a picture of a PS3 controller in a pile of sh!t? ANd why do you give the impression that you dont like ps3?

[SSCOOLCHEA]

Let him believe that , really im done

[LaChance]

I don't see why 30/40 year old fathers , 18-26 year old girls , grandmas and grandfathers would want to buy a PS3.They probably didnt give a damn about videogames before the wii came out so I dont think they'll buy it for MGS4 or Res 2.They might buy it as a bluray player but then that goes not only for wii owners but anyone else , that is if HD films take off this year because though theres alot of talk about HD films 90% of people (in France )dont really care.Its not like in the states where people buy the ps3 as a movie player here in Europe its actually the gamers who buy the PS3.Just shows how much people dont really care for the moment about HD films.So I still dont see why wii owners would want a PS3.
And by the way 2008 is "sony's year" were already in march and the PS3 still hasnt left the 360 in the dust.If the sales carry on like this I dont see what there is to celebrate.They would close the gap ,ok , but it would still take them years to be on par.
MGS4 is coming in June so dont expect a huge jump in sales till then and then its gonna be end of the year rush and dont see why the PS3 would crush the 360 since the 360 games got clearly way more hype.

@anego ; I dont know much people who bought a ps2 as a dvd machine when the dvd format finnaly took off simply because the ps2 dvd player was way behind the standard dvd players at that time and I bet the same will happen to PS3.I dont see mom's getting a ps3 for 400 euros when they can get a top notch bluray player for 250 euros but hey thats just my opinion could be wrong.

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

why people started BUYING ps2 was for DVD.

like it or not people are buying HDTVs NOW.

almost everyone i know has one NOW.

BLURAY IS THE SECRET WEAPON.

since HD-DVD is as DEAD as DEAD.

@lachance(again)

only time will tell, we shall see.

[kingme71]

I'm a 36 year old father and i have one... Why? Because I grew up with games and have always been a gamer. I also have a Wii... Why? Because I'm a 36 year old father and my kids are growing up with games :)

[ChickeyCantor]

"why people started BUYING ps2 was for DVD"

in the beginning yes, but that other part of those 120 got it for singstar and games like that.

[FungLip]

Good question, those groups u mentioned most likely won't give a damn.
But kids in their family will, and they'll use Blu-ray and Littlebigplanet to convince them to do so. (And ofcourse all they wanna play r Resistence2 and GOW3)

Thats also how I convinced my dad to share half of PS2's price in 2000 (with DVD and racing games!).
Kids can even show vids of LBP, PS3 eye, and say it's a next-gen Wii or watever instead of me just talked and talked in 2000.

[tweaker]

My dad is 50 he plays High Stakes Poker on the PS3 and watches tons of Bluray. Your point is invalid. Bluray was the reason he bought one, then eventually downloaded some games off the PSN.

[ikiru3385]

LaChance,

i would have to say that the ps3 games have way more hype this year and more to live up to.

[vloeistof]

well good to see the media is now behind ps3.

now sony and co, give us resistance 2 eight days gow3 ff xiii trailers

[chrno6]

Many of my friends, who currently own a wii, are planning to buy a ps3 soon. Let's be realistic here, with so many original and killer titles, ps3 is going to win big in 2008. I think it's silly to deny the fact that ps3 will own this year.

[brodels]

i have a wii, and i'm definitely getting a ps3, if not this year then next year. the only thing keeping me from selling my wii is smash (a game that i think will add a huge amount of value to the system), and a new zelda game, or any other random exclusive gems that could come out for the system.

but the ps3 killer titles, integration with psp, and backwards compatibility are what's catching me.

[RecSpec]

This year is the year all the "reasons to buy a PS3" are being released. Killzone 2 and MGS4 mainly. (Don't expect FF13 anywhere outside Japan this year)

[PSWe60]

Wii has no good games...everyone has established that, Nintendo certainly has established that and unless you're a complete idiot(Nintendork Fanboys) people are beginning to see that. PS3 may not have the expansive library of games that the 360 has, but it is the HD standard in entertainment, it doesn't break down and the graphics are on parr if not better than the 360.

Fools like 'Inyourmom" can't see it because he's in his mom's basement playing 360 till it over heats again like 33% of the 360 gamers

[PS360WII]

gonna disagree because I'm not an idiot and the Wii has many games available. It's like saying the PS3 hasn't released any big games (it has by the way)

[PSWe60]

name them, the good games...i don't mean the popular ones like Pokemon, good ones...I'll help,

Smash Brothers
Zelda
Metroid 3
Mario Galaxy

[InYourMom]

I must of owned you in another thread you seem to want to personally attack me.

What a freakin toolbag..

You hear that??? Toolbag!

I own PS360 and own my own place thank you very much. What's next toolbag? Yo momma is so fat snaps?

I won't say anymore on the subject since PS360WII seems to be owning you enough.

[PS360WII]

Well I don't really need to list 10 more for you seeing that you already proved yourself wrong with listing those 4. Thanks ^^

[heyheyhey]

No More Heroes
Resident Evil UC
Resident Evil 4: Wii edition (best one)
Resident Evil Zero

and some others that might not be outstanding, but still pretty damn fun like Excite Truck, Sonic and the secret rings, Red Steel and Super Paper Mario

crazy fool- the Wii is a great system and has plenty of games

[Odion]

you guys love these articles don't cha?

[Marceles]

i know you hate them lol

[TruthBTold]

LOL, good one!

[Whoooop]

good one indeed...

[HarryEtTubMan]

DUDE get over it and stop pretending the Xbox isnt just a Hardcore gaming system known for Halo and Gears of Bore. Playstation is known to be the "All around" system with ALOT of hardcore but also alot of Casual and platform/action adventure games like Uncharted. Playstation Home. Blu Ray won. People just like Playstation...there's something about it. I have a 360 and I still like my PS3 more even though everything thats going to make PSn just as good as XBL isnt quite here. Its barely even a year old. PS3 will STOMP the 360. Start believing it because its already happening and will more and more from here.

MGS4 bundle coming soon BOTS!!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Notice she said 2008 is the "turning" year for the PS3. We all freaking knew it. Playstation is too big and too good of a gaming system.

All the BOTS worst nightmares have came true hahahahahahahahhaha and it's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY! WE HAVE WON!!!! BUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

[MailMan]

The Xbot Defense Association ALREADY realize their White BRICK has absolutely NO CHANCE against the Playstation 3 in 2008,2009,2010,2011,I could go on ALL DAY but I see SMOKE outside my window and NO DOUBT there is a BURNING 3Fixme system and an Xbot in need of HELP in the area

Jump OUT and Play B3YOND

[Oilers Fan]

wow 5 agrees, anyways i just have a question. What do you personally get from this. Im just wondering? Do you get sexual pleasure after reading this, do you go and screw your ps3 controller? Please reply because no one ever seems to reply to this topic. Does it really matter to you personally that ps3, 360 or wii win? If it does then you need to realize its just a video game system

[eagle21]

Since the early 90's. Sony and Nintendo first party offer clever games. With hidden punches and stuff. It's hard to describe. Look at IGN's top 100 of all time list. It's dominated by Nintendo and Sony. It's always been like this. She is right! With the added appeal of HOME, PSN (can't wait for Wipeout HD!), Singstar, Little Big Planet, Gran Turismo, etc.(I don't have to name) and Blu-ray Discs plus a price cut? It's a wrap, she's right!

[aiphanes]

Its been a good year for the PS3...we saw a huge turnaround and Sony is now on the ball.

2008 will be a killer year...and sony will not shoot its wad early like microsoft did last year....All microsoft has in Gears of War 2 in 2008.

Home is gonna be big for the casual gammers....microsoft has nothing for the casual gammers....after seening what you can do in home and all the killer titles on the PS3 by...christmas 2008....the wii folks will migrate to the PS3 is droves after a $100 price drop.

[PS360WII]

BluRay does not offer the hugh leap in tech that VHS to DVD gave us. This is a small upgrade in the ways of media entertainment. BluRay will stay a niche product for a while. DVD is still the winner of the format war specially seeing many are just buying upconverting dvd players for 100 bucks.

Saying this PS3 will sell just like the other 2 systems will. What's hard to see about that. Are they going to predict consoles just to stop selling? No they won't.

[Ovidius]

Wii owners will buy a PS3 at xmas? Unless they're getting it for a BluRay player I don't see a majority crossing over. I'm sure many Wii owners will but not all of them. Considering alot were gifts from parents, I'm not sure if a parent like that would first buy their child a 250 dollar Wii one Xmas, then the next Xmas they would buy a 350 dollar gaming machine, assuming a price drop of course. I don't think most parents would be so supportive of a console with alot of M-rated games either, although LBP is a factor.

And yes 2008 and 2009, probably, is PS3s year. The PS3 has tons of momentum starting from the holidays, and the way I see it it wont be slowing down anytime soon. MGS4, LBP, Home, R2, and GT5 Prologue will dramatically help PS3 sales. 2009 will have GoW3, FFXIII, and 8 days(?) and a lot of other games as well. As history has shown, once Sony gets going, it wont stop. It may slow down at times, but it definitely will not stop.

[Darkiewonder]

spoke about "Wii60". They really need to stop talking about the now and base it off of that.

[FungLip]

I almost went all three (almost bought a 360 in '06 with Dead Rising), but 360's hardware issue got me a little scared. Just bought a Wii, and it's REALLY user-friendly; I love it.

[RecSpec]

Home rivals Animal Crossing (Wii's would-be online juggernaut). And Little Big Planet is what I would think the original Mario would be if it came out today. There is a decent shot here.

[FungLip]

I don't really care about Home; but when I saw LBP, I thought of "Next-gen Mario" and "Youtube of gaming" smashed together.

[LaChance]

Nobody cares about HD films for the moment except for "geeks" , cinephiles and gamers in general.I heard something like there was all together (bluray plus HDDVD) 80 000 stand alone players sold in 2007.Compare that to dvd standalone players and you'll see that bluray just isnt as huge as sony fanboys would like it to be , for the moment.
DVD is just fine for films and for games for the momnt.I dont see one single bluray game on ps3 that that cant be done on the 360 with Dvd.
Uncharted looks good but thanks to strange cartoonish colors and can OBVIOUSILY be done on the 360.It looks only slightly better than the best looking 360 game , and since the 360 hasnt hit its peak there is still alot of room for improvement.

[heyheyhey]

sorry dude

even Resistance takes up 17gb of space (it has multiple copies of each texture to decrease rendering time or something like that)

and MGS4 has filled up he Dual-Layer BD disk which is 50gb

Blu-Ray is becoming a necessity for HD games my friend- there's no way to fight it

hell even a baseball game is lacking features in the 360 version because of DVD9

[pwnsause]

FAIL.

[supremacy]

its not whether or not it cant be done on the 360 r not its can it be done properly without compressions and missing features of the disc not a patch or an add-on. uncharted may look cartoonish but that was the approach taken by the devs in relation to the main character nathan, heck look at C0D4 and Unreal 3, Lair and Heavenly sword and even Killzone 2 and wardevil. and although i would agree with you on this the 360 hasn't yet reached its peak but we all know its slowly reaching it as we speak. not to mention if the 360 is to have more head room than man i can just imagine how much more does the ps3 must have that currently lazy dev's haven't bother reaching yet. and as far as blu ray goes all you got to learn how to realize is that every ps3 sold is one and no matter whether or or not say 10 people buy a ps3 for games over movies as a priority out of those 10 at least 4 are likely to give their blu ray player a spin and once they those individuals realize how great it is they will slowly migrate like the ants do over sweets and junk food, its only practical. now if you add those numbers and you simply multiply them by the hundreds of thousands of ps3 that get sold, than yeah even though the stand alone players aren't exactly selling like cakes one can simply put this logic in place and say well is still selling but how? that was toshiba not too long ago, but if you go back before the famous delayed spring 2006 launch they toshiba wanted to negotiate with sony and try and merge the two formats before releasing the ps3, now i wonder why hmmm. now that the format war is clearly over now i think we all have the answers. lol its funny because its like history is repeating itself, i mean i remember the dreamcast cost 200 and had all these games, and the ps2 launched a year later with a crappy pack of games and a 100 bucks more, and than out of nowhere the ps2 started selling like hot cakes, and than sega even claim that it was because of the DVD drive not the games, and that they were all about games, but than they themselves decided to go and release A DVD add-on oh i can still remember those days. but in the end you know what? sega was right because you see sony helped grow the DVD market when it was just in this current state blu ray is in, but the funny thing is that if you look closely both blu ray and even HD-DVD were/are selling at a faster rate than DVD did in its days, not to mention all we ever talk about is blu ray this blu ray that every where you look whether positive or negative it just seems like blu ray is poised to become the next standard no matter what. so basically by the time xmas comes around the ps3 will probably sit at 299 and in your living room who knows.

[supremacy]

@LaChance

oh and i almost forgot to mention something here, now i know ever since blu ray won sony a format war not like its first or anything cough *CD* cough DVD yes sony was part of the all mighty dvd format as well they just sold their shares to toshiba a while back, and decided to move on to newer things. anyways not to get sidetracked or anything. every since sony won this format war all ive been hearing is things like oh well it doesn't matter cuz digital downloads this digital downloads that, blah blah blah and more blah i say to all that nonsense, the music market is one thing but the movie market is another lets just make that perfectly clear before i go on with what im gonna say next.

now i don't ever dought that downloads will eventually become the next thing or if not another venue for movie watching, but lets be perfectly honest with ourselves here you guys might sit there and argue all you want and start stating little pc facts that have of your elders wouldn't even understand. yes downloads are gonna become big but not anytime soon i can guarantee you all this. first things first. pc's catch viruses and can easily brake down depending how you use your computer but thats just you not your sisters or friends or grandpops, lets be serious here, if not pc's on demand is cool but most movie goers love to keep what they pay, for things like a quick watch n walk away you go to the movies or rent from netflix or blockbuster where even they will give you more than a single day ( but not the treaters though)to at least let a friend or a loved one barrow and watch over their houses.

and than theres the connection issues and load times, most people have to endure, heck don't mean to nip pick but i own a 360 and why i do love the whole idea of just downloading of the system and all that, i just don't feel... say... too comfortable downloading on the console since when comparing to a simple 20 minute devil may cry 4 5gb download man one can only hope to still be in the mood to even wanna watch the films once its fully downloaded, and not to mention all the movies ive seen where at 720p and even some further compressed from that point is a quite ridiculous to be honest with you. a tiny 20gb hard drive and one 120gb hard drive that if you were to get for you ps3 im pretty sure it ill cost you alot less. you don't really get to keep your films, risks of losing your films are high, and you cant share. three of the main components that makes the dvd market so desirable. just pop in a disc watch and enjoy, simple. and yes if you own a 360 like i do and of course a ps3 than an HDTV is something that you either have or are thinking about so just that alone opens a door for say blu ray to fit it the picture. simply digital downloads will have its time in years to come but not anytime soon. in the meantime the market will remain multi-platform like pc/DVD to Blu ray/console, in which that doesn't make blu ray a failure but rather the next best thing, the upgrade. love it or hate it thats what is going to be.

[Kaz Hirai]

Yes, it's time you Nintendouches bought a REAL console!

MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

[Silellak]

Do people really get paid for what anounts to little more than professional guesswork?

Seriously, anyone paying any attention to gaming this year could've made this exact same "analysis" and "predictions".

I'm not saying she's wrong, she's most likely right...but she's just repeating what people have been saying since late 2007.

[Whoooop]

funny to see xbots trying to be objective and unbiased....

They are the same xbots, but now they are trying to trash the PS3 and praise the 360 in a "non-fanboy fashion" haha

right...

PS3 is owning and will own.. deal with it bots.

:)

[Anego Montoya FTMFW]

you noticed that too,

all of a sudden, their all NEUTRAL.

it`s very amusing.

[heyheyhey]

yeah man take a look at Bladestar

used to be hardcore 360 fanboy and now llok at him- he's buying a PS3 and is being "unbiased" or whatever they call it

[Oilers Fan]

Hmm, it seems like they are more rational then ps3 fans no? I dont know just making an observation, but this is basically how the site works.

Positive 360 Article: Ps3 Fans come in woooooooo ps3 rullez u botz this game suckkkkkkkkks. MGS4,LBP, SONY OWNS 08. RROD, FREE PSN, HOME
Negative 360 Article: Ps3 Fans come in woooooooo ps3 rullez u botz this game suckkkkkkkkks. MGS4,LBP, SONY OWNS 08. RROD, FREE PSN, HOME

Now this is where it gets interseting

Positive PS3 Article: Ps3 Fans come in woooooooo ps3 rullez u botz this game suckkkkkkkkks. MGS4,LBP, SONY OWNS 08. RROD, FREE PSN, HOME

Negative PS3 Article: Ps3 Fans come in woooooooo ps3 rullez u botz this game suckkkkkkkkks. MGS4,LBP, SONY OWNS 08. RROD, FREE PSN, HOME

Now "xbots" are agreeing ps3 is going to win, they are buying ps3's, and sony fanboys are now saying they are trying to be objective and unbiased. Hmm it seems like they ARE being objective and unbiased unlike most of the fans on this site. But that does not carry over well does it? Would you rather have them be xbots or neutral?

[Pain]

lolXbox I luv Reading all therr funny fluff talk lolxbots :P

But yea Wii owners will buy PS3 well befor Xmas , more like Summer, wii cant keep them interested for
that long, How they managed this long is a Mystery to me???? oyes they have DS lol

[Warbletot]

I posted the following in another thread but it seems appropriate here. I do think it is reasonable to own both consoles as they offer different things:

I don't wish to gloat, but when I purchased my Sony Bravia 1080P TV, I could not contemplate not having a Blu-Ray device to go with it, and I did not want to lose my gaming PS3 in my bunker(private hideaway).
The PS3 is so versatile that it made absolutely no sense to purchase anything else but a PS3 for the new T.V in the living room.
I knew the PS3 was excellent on my benq for gaming, but on a big 1080P.....Blu-Ray movies are stunning, viewing photo's and home movies are fantastic, music with visualizers(80GB ipod may be on ebay soon), and may I say how cool it is to slouch on the couch and access the Internet on a big screen!
People this year are starting to come around to just how good the PS3 really is, most of us that owned one last year already knew this and probably did not understand the negative press of last year. How things change.

Just a final note, please do not reply with talk of attach rate, I do not care for such an argument. I do know that one PS3 is going to be attached to lots of Blu-ray movies, and the other will have lots of games ;)

[LightningPS3]

Why Wii owners?

A lot of 360 owners also buy PS3, hardcore gamers want to have both. Many PS2 owners who don't have a next gen console yet.

I think anyone could buy a PS3, I wouldn't single out Wii owners.

[Warbletot]

True, but I think the article is trying to say Wii owners are likely to be looking for something a little more wholesome come Christmas time, and it is likely to end up being a PS3.

[mcgrawgamer]

as a 360 owner and future ps3 owner (mgs4 bundle) it's sad to see anaylyst falling victim to the fanboy wars. it's like if you have a 360 or a ps3 you must automatically hate the competitor's console. I like gaming on my 360 and I have a lot of respect for the ps3. I also believe if fanboys had the option or the means to own both we would have some bias, but it would not be as bad as it is today.

[FungLip]

The console war got way out of control and it's in everybody's mind.
If you own PS3, you must be hating on 360; vice-versa.

[ChickeyCantor]

>_>
what happend to summer? and fall ....?
already talking about XMAS....

Lets see who buys what.
discussing it now is just repeating all those other articles about Wii wont sell @ all...

No one can tell whats gonna happen in the future.

But i dont care who wins i just want my games!!!!

[SubzeroX]

Why would anyone want a ps3 to play boring movies?

[Big Jim]

Wow.

[Big Jim]

Wii owners are soccer moms and little kids. Why would soccer moms and little kids buy PS3s? PS2 owners who haven't gotten a next-gen system yet are going to buy PS3s in 2008. They are the ones who will drive PS3 sales. The Wii is aimed at a totally different group of people than the PS3.

[RecSpec]

Little Big Planet could start a revolution on the level of the Sims if sony plays their cards right.

[DFresh]

Try in April when GT5 drops that should bring a lot of paparazzi in.
That's just 1 exclusive with more and more coming each time.
PS3 will over take the 360 by April and the Wii by November.

[DrDreadlox]

Man, Sony should at least drop the price in Aussie/ New Zealand at least. There would be nothing worse than to buy a NZ$800 (US$640), just to see a price drop a month later.
By the way, we've NEVER seen a price drop in this part of the world.

They should at least say when they will drop the price, cos if people speculate that there will be a price drop soon, they won't buy. But if its gonna be in december lets say, they might just decide to not wait and get one now. I know i would

[sumfood4u]

Most Wii owners dont plan on stoping with just the Wii! I own a Nintendo Wii but i plan on buying the new PS3 120GB white look with FF13! That my inspiration! B~E~Z!

[whoelse]

I think it will be selling for $299 this christmas.

[sonyfanonly]

if any body wanted a 360 they would of bought one by now its cheaper and has a big list of games but nobody is hardly buying any and the wii us just for the family fun now the ps3 is going to gain momentum in 08 and surpass the wii and 360

[Homicide]

PS3 is the future. Blu-ray won, the price will eventually attract buyers, PS2 owners will go buy a PS3, well known franchises like Final Fantasy, Gran Turismo, etc will be released.

[YungDragon]

I'll be getting mine soon. So can't wait

[YungDragon]

Metal Gear will start the true turnaround. Get ready

[cmrbe]

for wii owners for a secondary system is the PS3. PS and Nin share a common heritage in that they were born purely from the console market. xbox on the other hand is mostly from the PC hardcore market with online gaming and a preference for FPS. The xbox controller itself is perfect for FPS with its best titles being shooters. Look at xbox and you will find a fair amount of games also have PC ports due mainly to MS PC background. PS is always known as a general gaming console. Thats is its legacy and why it has won two console wars in a row. Wii is mostly casuals. PS3 will provide both as well as niche market games for example gamers that like card games, Sing star etc.

[chaosatom333]

i wouldn't be surprised if it did,

[Utalkin2me]

Sure wii owners are going to buy a ps3 after they there isnt really crap to play on the wii.

[tweaker]

360 sales are declining every year. PS3 is going up every year. That's a good sign for the PS3.

[avacadosnorkel]

Even if the Wii owners don't buy PS3s this holiday it doesn't matter. I'm going to buy a PS3 for my older bro and his 3 kids (who are Wii owners) so I don't have to shop for each person individually. I think it will save time and money giving the combo gift for his whole family. Now my bros wife might not like the gift, but f*ck her...never liked her anyway.

[actas123]

hahaha
Damn u r good!

[Snukadaman]

You are going too have parents who purchased a wii that will jump too the more expensive console...for one thing...the wii is totally a console a child can muck up and destroy...you honestly think a parent will even let some 10-12 year old access to a blu-ray player that the whole family can enjoy...let alone a child too use ...yeaa im not buying this...a child is either going too get a ps2 for price or a xbox for games....a ps3 will be purchased as the whole familys new blu-ray player that plays games on the side...

[mighty_douche]

LOL @ this angry thread. Its just an opinion, no more right or wrong than yours or mine.

[LaChance]

yeah ok , Res takes up 17gb but better looking games with better gamplay and longer than Res fit into a dvd9 (Bioshock , Geow , Mass Effect , COD 4 ) so once again why do you need bluray for games when you can fit WAY better games on a dvd9 ? Thats a real question , Im really looking for answer to that

But sorry till this very day we still havnt seen the need for bluray in gaming.Res takes 17gb only because the space is available.Expalin why devs make better games with way less space ? Bluray is more like luxury for devs , its not a neccesity.Lost Oddesy wasnt less appealing or a bad game because its on multiple discs.It would have got the EXACT same scores if it were on one single disc.So that just proves multiple discs is not at all a problem like ps3 fanboys would like to make us think.

[Gaara_724]

final fantasy 13,final fantasy vs 13, unnamed final fantasy 13 mmorpg u need blue ray for them hell there going for 100% of the ps3's power they games will be on more than i disk hell my m8 pavel (russian name) didn't like the ps3 until he played resistance fall of man with me on xmas (yea we played for 32 hours nostop on hard to complete it yep we were noobs lol) and his best game at the time was gears of war and he said resistance is way better hez currently saving up for a ps3 (and if you're 360 rrod's on you leave it for a month don't touch it don't do nothing it will fix itself happened to pavel 3 weeks after he got it he left it for a month now its working fine and he sold it to james) hell teres even ps2 games better graphics than most 360/ps3 games please name 20 games on 360 that look better than final fantasy 12 or final fantasy x movie since

[supremacy]

@LaChance

better yet why does lost oddessy need 4 discs? and blu dragon 3? and don't give me the old because they are rpg talk cuz so is mass effect. and its nice you mention that some of the better looking games like bioshock and gears fit on those DVD9's but what you fail to realize is that not only are these games short when compare to some of their pc counterparts cough gears of war, but they are all compressed and feed of their 360 hard drives and even than i hear people who play gears of war on the 360 need insurance because their gaming just keep on crashing like hell. not to mention slowdown. heck even the project gotham devs were saying they had to make some serious and tough decisions regarding whether or not weather changes could be implemented in gotham 4 for on a single disc, and just recently mlb 2k8 might be missing extras where does it go from here? and than there's the 150 mb limit impose by m$ on arcade games, on which a capcom dev said that biononic commando rearm might not look as good as its pc and ps3 counter parts and the sad thing here is that the same truth holds responsible for the countless delays street fighter 2 HD remix has been getting. sure devil may cry mighta have its ten 20 minute 5 gig installation but hey uncharted looks better and heck it even loads less with no installs of what so ever. my point here is blu ray in my opinion is needed as well as a hard drive in every unit.

now answer this (what happens to those 360 owners who bought the arcade model and are planning on buying burnout), now thats what i want you to answer for all of us here.

[Snukadaman]

In fact when they talk shortages its just the elite I think...and the problem with your argument is bioshock fits on one disc....we all know heavenly sword could of fit if not for the uncompressed music files and what not...it sucks that lost odyssey is on 4 discs but I do own blue dragon and its a great game regardless of how many discs you need and I plan too purchase lost odyssey...that bionic commando remake sucks that we will get the inferior version but its just a remake...if the new bionic commando is gimped in anyway then your argument is quite valid...but cmon...its a remake....its on arcade...its only 10 bucks...how gimped more can it be.

[pwnsause]

i wouldnt even be surprised if GTAIV on the PS3 outsells its 360 counter part.

[360_Rules]

The 360 should get a price cut this May along with the new DLC for GTA: IV this fall.

[etownone]

things sure are looking up for ps3.

and with blu-ray, they really did secure themselves for the long run.... looks like another ps2, and in the long run Sony could win again, but no way will it be selling like the ps2. Wii and the 360 took alot of ps2 customers.

[BrotherNick]

I may be getting a ps3...LBP is calling me.

[otherZinc]

Gears of War 2!

XBOX 360.

[Leathersoup]

I beg to disagree with this generalization. For the most part Wii owners are brand new to the whole video game arena. Remember that Nintendo has tapped a new audience. People who couldn't care less about hardcore gaming and as far as most of them will be concerned, the Wii is going to be as far as they go.

[SovereignSnaKe]

i already bought a 360, so i guess that means I'm "Wii60", i only bought the wii for the first party titles!, but Microsoft also got some of the old Nintendo titles..cough... Banjo-Kazooie!
-sorry sony

[360_Rules]

Banjo 3, is only on the 360. That should get a lot of Wii owners to buy a 360 and this fall the 360 should be equal to the PS3 in terms of reliability using the new 65nm GPU chips.

[supremacy]

@360 rules

okay so m$ bought rare and thats good leverage but seriously if you were to put littlebigplanet and banjo 3 in a face off say they launch on the same day what do think will most likely happen? given all the hype littlebigplanet has been getting these past year, i don't think banjo 3 would stand a chance not to mention even reggie wants littlbigplanet on the wii. and thats coming form a nintendo rep himself c'mon do the math here. also sony and toshiba as we speak are already working on a 65nm and at the same time working on a 45 nm for set to release sometime in 09. i mean since IBM themselves has already stated they are close to finishing their 65nm chips. with the shares sony sold toshiba this past weekend or so i think the 360 is going to be behind here as well. as that sale alone will pretty much indicate toshiba will most likely look to profit of the ps3 and en thus almost if not becoming an exclusive manufacture for the sony platform. its only logical.

[Revlis91]

actually the only good prediction I heard this year,I'm a wii owner and I'm planning to buy a ps3 O_o

[tk]

Looking at the woman that would be all Wii owners (men?) would buy a PS3...

[cooke15]

I think everyone forgets.. Wii hasnt even slowed down enough to warrant its first price drop. PS3 has had several :|

No in 2008 i am not buying a PS3.

[GETPWNED]

Dumb.

[Niclas]

Ofc they will..

Know they all bought the Wii thinkin "This is nex-gen" .. then they had it and played the lame games and know they all realise what we've (PS3, Xbox360 owners) have been saying for a looooong time "Its the worst piece of over-rated gamecube 1,3 console ever made?"

[You bought an Xbox]

Is the rise of the most superior game console the PS3

Suck it up KaKBox owners

Xbots Suck

[candystop]

You and just about every Sony fan boy sound desperate for attention! The PS3 is not and never will be the hit console you guys are expecting! All of this hype and trying to make things the way they are not is going to backfire on Sony! This is not how you hype or get people on board the PS3 train and in fact all of this bluray won and we own 2008 mentality is exactly what MS wants! Sony is going to kill Sony and you blind sh!t talkers are going to fly right off the cliff with PS3! To this day there is no game on PS3 other then LBP that at one time truly caught my attention! If I were any of you guys I would watch what I say because the opposing teams are out to shut down Sony and any attempt they have at becoming the console leaders this time around!

[supremacy]

@ Xbots Suck

now now come down, i love the ps3 like the next guy on here but even i got to say the 360 dont suck,

put it like this, the 360 is just not future proof thats all.

i mean they have great games, a great online service and a big company with huge pockets to fill an nfl size hunger.

but their main problem like i said is just that the 360 as it stands now isn't really future proof like the ps3 or a pc is, why?

well let me explain.

now i know some of you here might say nah thats bull blu ray isn't needed but the fact is that bigger games are starting to roll out one after the other. take lost oddesey and blu dragon for a sec. those are two of many to come that are already making use of 3 if not 4 discs.

also take into consideration that when we talk disc size we don't necessarily mean the length of a game, because hell look at heavenly sword it used somewhere around 15 gigs but it turned out to be a short experience, but as a result it was intended to feel more like a treathical experience and not so much that of a game. so they used 10gigs of true uncompressed HD sound for the game instead. but im sure a game like gears on the ps3 would off offered all those extras the pc versions does.

360 games in general look good i must admit but most of the good looking games aren't even represented in true HD resolutions, halo3 call of duty 4? they were around 720p or even less according to some people so these kinds of things have to be taken into consideration and sound is also a factor in size as well as length.

than theres the 150mb limit and i just cant get over this one, id probably made mentions of this all the time,

this is a limit, not a good thing for game design.
take into account that the ps3 really doesn't have a limit on these small types of games. so this means good news for devs and expansions for suture titles with good resolution and audio.

than there's that infamous reliability issue the rrod this has become like an epidemic or something like it. but all i know is that its horrible to experience something like this, especially since when you get a new one back you cant really play your purchased arcade games unless you're online which means that if you where to go out and stay over a friends house over the weekend and take your system with you than it becomes annoying, the other is simple if for some reason your connection goes down than yeah you're pretty much screw there as well.
and lets face it people hate waiting too long for a system that should be at home to get back in a couple of weeks, what makes this even more annoying is the fact that it can keep on happening like it has so with a couple of friends of minds. heck even he is pissed and whats to now know when does resistance go down in price so he can get it, originally he had gotten a ps3 for blu ray, but now thanks to these sorts of issues happening on the constant basis he is now willing to accept another platform and i sure as hell cant blame him for his actions.

controllers aren't a big deal to me but if you look closely last i checked batteries aren't cheap heck even those charges can costly add up the cost of your supposedly cheaper more games console.

now i know what you are probably thinking but rumble. yes sony mess up on rumble i wont deny that but they were at least smart enough to include a built rechargeable batteries into them controllers. thats one less hassle i have to worry about. and in case you all start saying but why are they suddenly releasing rumble on this controllers when its not supposed to be next gen? well simple because you gamers wanted it so badly sony had no choice but to complied to those cries, i mean if sony were so eager to get rumble back than they would have simply release them with the 40gb model back in October, but they didn't so basically you all cried for them and now they are simply providing it is that simple. but that doesn't explain why M$ had to put an HDMI port on their new systems, i mean i get fanboys saying that it isn't needed cuz component cables are as good so... again whats the point of the 360 even having an HDMI port if its only going to increase its price? simple answer its how the market works one company does something and it seems to have it as an advantage the other is most likely to follow in its foot steps so the other company wont have anything to talk about.

on BC again i don't like the fact that it was removed, but sony knows that if the ps3 is at 400 and with BC than ps2 sales will start declining for sure and as it currently stands they are profiting in big ways of the ps2 so, cut BC out and provide the ps2 until it wears out, i know i know its cold world but thats how business works. but on the bright side the ps2 is still around unlike the cube or the xbox which aren't.

basically what im trying to say here is that, the ps3 out of the 3 current gen systems out, is the only future proof machine out the 3.

the wii is fun and like the ps3 reliable. but again all i see is ps2 ports crossing over with the exception of nintendo made software of course. okami, resident evil 4, prince of Persia and many more coming you can bank on it. the virtual console is neat but the 360 has xbox live and the psn has the network which mean even old titles like mk 2 can be playble against others online heck even contra is playable online on xbox live. now that is call expansion which is good in my view.

as for the 360 well i pretty much said everything there is to be said about that system, but just for further comparisons here we go.

every ps3 comes equipped with a hard drive, wi-fi, rechargeable controllers free online and no limit on file size for its psn games. this alone should tell you that ps3 is more future proof than the other 2 systems.
and than there's blu ray and HDMI for when ever any of you decide to get an HDTV, at least you d know that you don't have to keep looking around to experience Hi-depth movies and gaming. and the minor upgrades as well even though the 360 has these too with everything listing on the hardware side of things on can only see how lopsided this is in ps3's favor.

bottom line the ps3 is the most future gaming product of the 3 and thats a fact.