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The Double-Edged Sword of the Used Game Debate

"We’ve seen a lot of talk over the past few months about the future of used games, especially when it comes to the next generation consoles from Sony and Microsoft. There has been widespread speculation that either one or both of the upcoming consoles could be blocking the usage of used games, binding games to the primary user of said game." | Explosion.com

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JBSleek4101d ago

It has pros and cons and simply dismissing cutting out used games sales seems like a silly thing to do. You have to see the sides and the numbers and understand that used games only serves the retail stores well for money at least.

Both sides have a point and PC has already gotten to this point with no problem.

Used games will die for consoles as well. Maybe not this generation but the inevitable will happen its just a matter if they will let it happen gradually or forcefully.

DragonKnight4101d ago

What makes you think used games will end for consoles? Because PC doesn't have used games? Yeah, there's a legitimate connection. /s

Look, the used game debate is very simple. Stores like Gamestop need them to even exist, gamers need/want them for collection and discount purposes, and publishers hate them because it means they can't make money off the same copy of a game multiple times. That's as basic as it is plain and simple.

Oh_Yeah4101d ago

Yeah, and if they do go all digital and anti used they should do it proper by knocking that 60$ price tag for a new game down to 30-40...I mean without a box, manual, disc,manufacturing and distribution charges,not being able to lend your game bring it elsewhere etc. I see that as fair price.

EVILDEAD3604101d ago

Wow Dragon hit it on the head.

Well said.

Evil

DragonKnight4101d ago

@EVIL: We may disagree on most things Microsoft, but hey it doesn't mean we can't agree on other things right?

Too many people remain ignorant to the basic truths of the used game market and how it has so little an impact on the money publishers make. It's more about what publishers WANT to make.

3-4-54101d ago

So many GOOD used games they none of us would be able to find if it wasn't for Gamestop. Everybody forgets about that.

That is, unless you want to risk buying online and getting screwed over and not getting what you thought you were paying for.

At least at Gamestop I can search through their available selection and when you find a rare gem that just happens to be there it's awesome and makes it that much better.

I love finding random very hard to find games in the used section of DS, PSP, Xbox 360 , 3DS games.

SonyStyled4101d ago

i dont see used games being blocked. however i do see a larger scale integration next generation of the online passes

ACEMANWISE4101d ago

In theory it appears that used games effect the true potential of new game sales. I'm sure it's true to an extent but not nearly as much as the industry thinks.

The article states that remakes and rereleases of old games have received good enough sales to warrant this interest of eliminating used games. Yet they fail to realize that the target audience they are reselling to is largely based on those that have already played the game, collectors, and those a bit more serious about gaming...the same audience they are largely eliminating by changing the market.

They also fail to realize that the industry is strongly evolved into a social based activity. All the sales this generation have been founded on people. It's not about game quality so much anymore. It's more about who has it, who's playing, and where they're playing it. Sales are largely driven by popularity, reputation, competition, social status, and peer acceptance.

Controlling software by making them new is only going to benefit popular titles. Even then it will only be realized in the short term of the title's life.

Controlling software by eliminating the physical format will only drop competition further for the digital format. There will be less need or pressure to drop prices regardless of it's cheaper cost for the companies.

Controlling software by limiting each game to one account will only destroy the family audience as paying 3 to 5 times for the same game will be too much hassle to get a household to play.

PopRocks3594101d ago

I do believe that a profit of a used game sale (some small percentage at least) SHOULD go to the publisher. But that's not the way the market works. What developers/publishers need to do is make buying NEW copies more attractive.

Here are two examples.

1. Club Nintendo codes. Get free stuff for buying new Nintendo games. Works for me!

2. Sony's cross-buy codes. An extra copy of the game for your Vita is a nice little gift. I think I'd spend the full $50 - $60 for that.

Other publishers need to do the same if they want their new copies to sell. They should not take away something and require, say, an online pass for the player to have all of the content. They should offer more stuff should you buy it new.

Steckmech4101d ago

I honestly see consoles eventually moving to this direction. I understand that it is completely unfortunate but if companies are wanting to do this they will eventually do it.

Hicken4101d ago

So they'd do it even if no one was willing to buy it?

It seems likely that they'll try it. And almost a certainty that it'll fail, since the majority of consumers will not likely go for it.

If the console manufacturers are willing to push ahead with blocking used games, and nobody buys into it, how long will they keep it up?

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Toaplan Arcade Shoot 'Em Ups 4 Review -- Gamerhub UK

Save the quarters and blast everything to oblivion at home!

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest3d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN2d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan2d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor2d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic2d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv722d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts1d 23h ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares3d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv722d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka2d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion2d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer2d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow12d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer2d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar3d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast3d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning773d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning772d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning772d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast2d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning772d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast2d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv723d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes3d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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