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Blame Microsoft for Rayman Legends' delay

The delay of Wii U Rayman Legends which arrived with a decision to bring the game to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 wasn't entirely under Ubisoft's control.

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Chrono4098d ago

So much rage from Nintendo fans.

fermcr4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Same thing happened with the release of GTA4. It was ready for the X360 but Rockstar delayed it for 6 months because the PS3 version wasn't ready.

If i had a WiiU I would probably be pissed at Ubisoft, but from a business standpoint, it makes sense to release it at the same time in various platforms. Ubisoft learned their lesson with the poor sales of ZombieU.

CGI-Quality4098d ago

Have you got anything to prove that about GTA IV? Because, to be frank, that sounds like a lie.

omi25p4098d ago

Rockstar did confirm it. But to be fair to sony and rockstar. The Ps3 was a new high tech piece of kit so it would of taken some getting used too. Also it came out a year later so was probably behind in development.

fermcr4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

@CGI-Quality

Instead of calling it a lie, move your lazy **** and look for it in google. Here is one article and I'm sure you can find many more.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

ShinMaster4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Whether it's content or release dates.
http://www.computerandvideo...

They can have games first, but won't allow others to do the same.
It's their (b*tch) policy.

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Starfox174098d ago

I'm mad about this decision,ubisoft and ea and activision if u keep giving 360 preferential treatment then the game industry will just fail the 360 couldnt keep 3rd partys alive on its own so why all these rules ???? developers and publishers need to stand up and say hey Microsoft we can make more money if we give everyone the same END OF.

Because in the end publishers will go bust and Nintendo will just survive off 1st and 2nd party with the odd 3rd party callaboration thrown in.

Jobesy4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Why don't you be mad at Nintendo for starving it's Wiiu early adopters of good games? Face it, if Nintendo had more decent games releasing now and in the coming weeks people wouldn't be mad about Rayman Legends. Ubi gave you guys Zombieu and AC3 already, must they be responsible for giving Wiiu gamers more games while there's nothing else to play? How about Nintendo step up and start releasing more games?

But no, go ahead and be mad at a 3rd party publisher, cause that makes sense...

LOL_WUT4098d ago

@ Jobesy Well said. ;)

This would've been a non issue if Nintendo would've had tons of games to choose from since launch up until now. But, since Nintendo wanted to get the upper hand on the competition it backfired on them, and now they have a drought of games and fans who are left out crying over ONE game.

One game who I doubt they wouldn't even given a damn about, if wasn't for the lackluster of ip's they have on the Wii U.

pikey4097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

I couldnt give a shit if all the platforms get it or its exclusivity. Why i am mad is because when it was a wiiU launch title i pre-ordered it. It was then delayed. So i took it off pre-order and ordered something else, no big deal. Then they say its coming february so i pre-order it again because i was looking forward to it, regardless of platform. 2 weeks before its release, when its known that its finished and ready to go, they delay it for another 6 months. Not because its not finished, not because they need to polish, not because it's buggy, but merely because they wanna launch it for all three at the same time. Yes, its a business and its thier business decision based on whatever reasoning to perhaps make more money off of it, which is fine and dandy.

My frustration is im tired of being jerked around. It's for sale, it's not for sale, it's for sale its not for sale. So, simply, i've now lost interest in it at this point.

Nothing to to do with nintendo, lack of games for wiiU, some kind of misguided fanboy jackass rage that it SHOULD BE AND REMAIN NINTENDO EXCLUSIVE!!!!! or any other bullshit reason some of you wanna throw out there as to why some people are angry at this. Quite simply theyre jerking customers around and its maddening.

FamilyGuy4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

Bad memories about ff13 just surfaced
goes multiplat
release date pushed back for simultaneous release
content cut to fit 360s dvd storage size disc

MS have been nothing but a nuisance to non-xbox gamers as well as to some xbox gamers too.
Their business practices are ANNOYING!

timed exclusives
timed dlc
exclusive 360 only content.

HarryMasonHerpderp4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

PS3 has a lot of exclusive content but I agree the timed exclusives and timed DLC from Microsoft is very annoying and just a cheap way to compete with their rivals.

StraightPath4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

In an alternative world where FF13 remained exclusive I can imagine PS3 fanboys deperately trying to defend thier exlusive game even though if it turned out to be a huge dissapointment which we know it end up being.

Xbox 360 had nothing to do with it being a poor Final Fantasy game, you can blame that to Square Enix with the game design and direction they went with it.

I mean with the cut content Square Enix mentioned such areas as a secret snow base, dungeons , park and a zoo do you honestly think this would magically turn a poor game into a good game?

I think Square Enix just wanted to point fingers with the poor reception they got from fans and critics alike. End of the day they agreed to Microsofts deal and what company would happily agree to a deal where it would require to downgrade their game?

Throughout development Square Enix mentioned it had no effect on the PS3 version and was pretty much nearing completion it was just a matter of being ported.

Later on FF13-2 and upcoming FF13-3 these so called restrictions are unheard of. Xbox 360 version was announced very late in development and this announcment do your really think you would of got somthing different from what we played? PS3 fans think they would of got a different game if it wasnt for the Xbox 360 and that is just pure bullshit.

Your are delusional if you really think Xbox 360 was the reason that FF13 turned out being poor. It was destined to be poor with the game design they went with. Regradeless if it were a PS3 exclusive or not. Very old and outdate excuse the PS3 fanboys seem to use and believe.

On topic, this article is just a unknown nerd voicing is blogger opinion that no one cares about. You can blame ubisoft for this and no one else.

TheTwelve4098d ago

This happened with FF13 and with DMC4, and who knows how many other games. But these two bothered me. Microsoft money has muscles that can annoy at times.

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kenshiro1004097d ago

I doubt that FFXIII would have been a bad game if it remained exclusive. The fact that content was cut and the game was split into FFXIII-2 and Lightning's Return (or whatever the hell they're calling them now)...one has to wonder what did happen between Microsoft and Square.

FamilyGuy4097d ago

More areas to explore and more side quest were EXACTLY the things that held FF13 back. It had a great battle system, astonishing graphics and when you got to the most open area in the game it was beautiful, fun and full of life. The wildlife fighting amongst itself was amazing and the entire game could have been more like that had the 360 version not held it back.

You're the delusional one thinking those things didnt matter, I doubt you even play RPGs. The release date being pushed back was a huge kick in the nuts as well, JUST LIKE IT IS HERE.

You try to claim others as fan boys with a poor argument to back your case, what a waste of time.

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Ezz20134098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

i don't own Wii U and i don't think i will get one any time soon
but
i would blame ubisoft first
if the game is ready ...launch it on WiiU
and should not waited till ps3/360 version are ready

but i think every one knew about Microsoft Policies on Software Distribution
ubisoft can't play victim here
they knew about Microsoft Policies
and agreed with it..they are the one who get blame here and ever 3rd party studio who do the same

Kevlar0094098d ago

I agree completely. It was Ubisoft who made the decision to have it on three consoles instead of most likely two. MS said take it or leave it and they decided to take it. They put money over integrity with this. From a business standpoint it makes some sense (why release it around GTA/Nintendo 1st party again?), but from a moral point it is disgusting

Ubisoft is just reinforcing MS's policy. If every developer just said "fine we won't release it on 360" then the policy would die out. Sadly with how the industry is every dollar counts.

I also want to give a shout out to the developers of Rayman Legends, they worked their asses off for several months to make this game perfect for the WiiU as soon as possible. They are the true victims here, not only could they have possibly had more time with friends and family with a longer development period, but they were lead to believe it was required to get the game out 7 months before it actually is to be released

demonddel4098d ago

Man you kids make me sick those companies don't spend there money to not make a profit a moral standpoint u sound stupid no company does that

givemeshelter4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

This is a business. When games cost upwards and more of the 10+ million mark, these developers MUST release those games on as many formats as possible to ensure a decent ROI or in some cases just to break even.
Take a look at how many software houses this generation alone went chapter 11 because they released their games on one or two systems only and could not recoup their costs let alone make a profit?
Business is business folks and this is also why many developers have went the indie development route. One big title not selling can mean the end of that company. Developers of LAIR, THQ...The list goes on.

Edit:
Ha Ha... I get disagrees for stating Economics. Business 101 about ANY industry. Only on N4G.COM
where truth is Science Fiction to many LOL

rpd1234097d ago (Edited 4097d ago )

Morals mean absolutely nothing to anyone in the business world. If you think that Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft actually give a shit about the people who use their products, you're wrong. The developers and certain people within each company probably do, but the companies exist to generate profit. They want to make money. If Ubisoft can do that by releasing it on 3 consoles instead of one, then they're going to do it.

lelo4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

ZombieU had poor sales, so Ubisoft is smart to release Rayman Legends in various platforms.

Starfox174098d ago

Zombiu has sold well compared to a typical 3rd party 360 game ????

treesmurf114098d ago

Even if ZombiU didn't sell well (which I'm fairly sure it did) that'd most likely be down to the stupid rrp and not the Wii U. With Rayman having a more reasonable price though I would have expected it to fly off the shelves, it was most Wii U owners most wanted but now many will completely ignore it because of both the delay and the fact it will launch alongside GTA, etc.

DOMination-4098d ago

Motorstorm also sold very well (even though sequels struggled to even get half a million sales). The reason being that there is never a large amount of choice at launch for consoles. A lot of people would have purchased the game regardless of quality because they probably already played the other games on other formats.

MasterCornholio4098d ago (Edited 4098d ago )

"It seemed so strange for Ubisoft to delay what was a big Wii U exclusive until September, especially when said game is confirmed to have been finished and practically ready to ship on Wii U."

Yep the game was on time but Microsofts release policy delayed it.

t3gamenews4098d ago

why delay a game flr us wii u users just to put it on last gen hardware, last gen they wouldjt have delayed a 360/ps3 game to be put on wii, dont think they would even do that for wii u. do you see gta 5 being delayed for wii u?

IAMERROR4098d ago

Here's an idea, stop finding people/companies to blame and deal with it.

Sucitta4098d ago

your right, everyone should bend over, lube up and prepare for the corporate cock as you've done your entire existence..

don't blame greed infested companies, just hang yourself xoxoxo.

IAMERROR4098d ago

LMAO a little extreme? What I meant is that there's no way it's changing so no use of pointing the finger at multiple things.

It's a release date for a piece of plastic, chill lol

NonApplicable4098d ago

@Sucitta

Ridiculous comment. Vote with your wallet instead of being a tool.

lilbroRx4098d ago

They are dealing with it, actively.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv723d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle3d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18813d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio3d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga3d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv722d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21833d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit2d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus232d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier2d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan2d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1013d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos3d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-2d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac3d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1013d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic3d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere4d ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN4d ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos4d ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN4d ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo4d ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies3d ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger4d ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic3d ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows903d ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger2d ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto4d ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos4d ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long4d ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel4d ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator4d ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Ubisoft's Recent Antics Have Me Fearful For The Sands of Time Remake

Hanzala from eXputer: "With Ubisoft's practices becoming increasingly anti-consumer lately, the destruction of The Sands of Time Remake looks almost inevitable."

thorstein11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Hey Ubi, here's a gun, don't shoot yourself in the foot.

*Ubi takes gun, aims at foot, empties clip*

Chocoburger11d ago

At this point, only dummies have any hope left for Ubi-junk games.