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Alas, No 120GB PS3 Or In-Game XMB Yet: Sony Talks PS3 Home

The Game Developers Conference was a bit of a letdown. Sony didn't use the GDC to make any announcements like the much anticipated in-game XMB addition or the official phasing out of the 80GB PS3 for a larger model.

Heck, there wasn't even a keynote. Sony gave PS3 News no PlayStation 3 news to talk about.

But that's all behind us now, so it's back to waiting for what's in store this year...most importantly Home.

xaphanze5926d ago

Why is it so difficult to include ingame XMB?Seriously now...

kingOVsticks5926d ago

they want to spring it out on us all at once with home and I don't even think they know when its coming out themselves but I really hope that they understand it needs to come out before gta4 or mgs4 it really feels like they are keeping us in the dark for too long.

Mars Attacker5926d ago

I'm sure XMB would have been out long ago if it was as technically simple as it seems on the surface. Probably because there is not enough RAM to implement it properly. In game XMB will require a chunk of RAM that I bet wasn't (couldn't be) reserved for "future expansion" in the early days. If that's the case then XMB won't work with current games and implementing it will gimp some future games.

Sony skimped on RAM to save cost and their OS design is obviously lacking.

Lifendz5926d ago

is it a problem due to Ram? Is it going to require such a massive update that it's not even feasible? What's the holdup? Heck, we still can't use a custom avatar for our PSN ID. Get it together sony!

Montrealien5925d ago

My theory is, sony will want to sell you the music.

wow145925d ago

The issue is resource reservation.

The PSN and the PS3 OS arent built in the same way as LIVE and Xbox360 OS & Guide.

This is mandatory reading for anyone who is interested in understanding the situation:

http://ozymandias.com/archi...

wow145925d ago

@1.5

You know, that is *incredibly* interesting. Maybe they are avoiding in-game music becuase they want to only allow DRM-controlled music?

wow4u5925d ago

read comment from wow14 on the second page.

The problem is the resources required. There is a lot of resources already occupied *without* the in-game-xmb, the Game Developers can't give up any more.

Omegasyde5925d ago

why can't they dedicate a whole SPU to it? Uncharted said it was only using less than half and that NO GAME has used all of the cell multicore power.

w-t-f.

LastDance5925d ago

Yeah My god... if a bunch of computer geeks say its easy it MUST be.

Why dont you put your own cross media bar in if its so god damn easy and stop complaining.

They will release it when they are ready. Its not like Oh its done okay here guys. what about all the download hits in one day they will get. they need to make sure their system doesnt crash. ten million people will be downloading it.

Youll get it when its ready so stop complaining and play some games.

No announcement for consoles? gee.. youd think this was a game developers conference or something the way sony are treating it.

Mars Attacker5925d ago

There may be SPU's sittling idle, but there is no unused RAM. The PS3 memory architecture was poorly designed and much too small to service 7 SPU's at the same time running "RAM hungry" programs like video games. It does great at tiny programs like Folding at Home though.

This is the dirty little secret of the PS3. The PS3 should have had 1 gig of dual ported RAM from the get-go. This would have been WAY more important to pay the extra coin for than Blu Ray. Sony's priorities (greed) got in the way. Why do you think the great and powerful PS3 can rarely match the 360 in real world game performance? With 1 gig of RAM the PS3 would be stomping the 360 a new mudhole at this point. Unfortunately there is no way to upgrade the RAM either.

Future proof?

gambare5925d ago (Edited 5925d ago )

I don't know why do people complain about what sony showed at GDC, the GDC event is a forum and showcase of tech and innovation of software for gaming, not a gaming parole like the E3 was and the TGS is, sony just showed software and game develop tools like the new developer tools for the PS3 or the show of Home tools, just like squarenix did with Crystal tools. I'm going to anger many xbox lovers but... Microsoft made the GDC their personal E3 blowing many of their bullets for this year and sony just reserved his stuff for another show.

about 1.11

You really don't know how a multi-proc works right?

Expy5925d ago

Because it'll be the ONLY next-gen platform to include an in-game XMB (or any similar implementation).

Why?

We asked for in-game XMB, and that's what they are creating, in-game XMB.

Unlike XBOX 360 where you only get one blade (minimal, not at all or even close to the full OS) and Wii's 2-4 option home button screen (which is barely an implementation of an OS at all) Playstation 3's in-game XMB is probably going to be just that, an in-game representation of the Xross Media Bar (not some cut down version of every one of its features).

Elvfam5115875d ago

people are complaining about these little updates we been having after they complaining that we don't have any like wtf im happy that we are even getting anything right now and the ps store wow great update i can wait for in-game xmb and home i know that ain't coming out now but in really want that but i wait enjoy the games that are coming out and sony keep bringing those little updates they are the sh!t (for me) dvd are awesome and the game are amazing but keep complaining people about those little updates im loving them

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whoelse5926d ago

I guess we didn't get any more from Nintendo either.

E3 next...

kingOVsticks5926d ago

isn't that like mid summer? Is there honestly no other kind of game expo coming out until then?

xplosneer5925d ago

Is Sony Gamers Day before that?

The Milkman5926d ago

Not even private chat... Well you better hope your buddy is playing the same game as you if you want to carry on a conversation.

bootsielon5926d ago

We would have seen a blowout of information at GDC, because if not, then when? They still have to release the open beta. My bet is that Home won't be ready until holiday season of this year. Maybe 2008 won't be that great for PS3 as Gran Turismo, Killzone and Final Fantasy seem to be delayed until 2009. Maybe even Resident Evil 5.

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Vader823d ago

No 7 days to die is criminal

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel5d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow5d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1824d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie4d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere3d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin4d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere3d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere3d ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX4d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney3d ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno4d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno4d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii4d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno4d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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