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Judgement Day: Can Gamers Judge Games Before Release?

Discussing how gamers can legitimately make judgements on games before they release.

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Snookies124166d ago

Yeah, based on what information is out there, the demo (if one has released.), as well as the developers and their background/attitude.

Although it's always best to give it a try regardless.

DragonKnight4166d ago

I think that giving it a try is more of a cementing act that just finalizes the opinion you came up with after reviewing all the info available. Ideally you wouldn't have to blow money on bad games to try them out, but hey I can't disagree that trying a game out can help people with a decision. I just think that, with some games, you can tell how bad they are straight from the beginning.

Root4166d ago (Edited 4166d ago )

Yup

Some people however fail to realise this

Take FF13-3 for example, you get the same "How can you judge" comments yet those same people say things like "This looks amazing", "Can't wait" or "Impressive for example...basicaly those who find a game good can judge WITHOUT playing the game themselfs but those who have a problem with it when it's so obvious can't because they "havent played it"...they get called "whiners", "trolls", "crybabies", people basicaly contradict themselfs and are made to look like hypocrites. Thats my problem with this situation.

It happened with FF13, RE5, Lost Planet 2, Medal of Honour Warfighter, FF13-2 and RE6 for example and look what happened.

It's happening now with Dead Space 3, Devil May Cry, FF13 Lightning Returns, Demon Souls 2...gee I wonder whats going to happen. LEARN FROM THE PAST...if it's happened before it will happen again...

For example...a well known horror game franchise taking the action route (RE6) with over the top action elements and co-op, then another horror franchise does the same, from here YOU SHOULD KNOW whats going to happen, why should we go through all the denial BS and say things like "Oh we don't know, wait for the game to come out" then resort to calling the people who arn't on the same boat as you sailing right down that great egyption river...DE-NILE

It's common sense

DragonKnight4166d ago

To be fair, some people do judge too early into a game's development. Dark Souls 2 is a perfect example of this. I myself am very worried about that game thanks to what Shibuya has said that he wanted in the game, but just because I'm worried doesn't mean I've formed a concrete judgement about it. Same with FF13. There was every indication that it was going to be a good game, that is until the gameplay vids came up and then a huge red flag was thrown.

Thing is, you don't have to play the full game to see what's wrong with it a lot of the times. We, as gamers, have become so used to developers failing hard that we can spot it from miles away. Well, some can anyway. Some people like to look through rose coloured glasses and think nothing is wrong, but when you get a game like RE6 and DmC, or issues like the DLC for Skyrim, you know that standards have been thrown away in favour of profit. What businesses seem to forget is that when you mistreat people, your business will suffer. DmC made a lot of people upset, FF13 trilogy made a lot of people upset, Skyrim DLC made a lot people upset. These things will have future implications to be sure.

And I completely agree that it's a huge double standard that people can praise a game without having played it in its entirety and then slam negative opinions for the exact same reason.

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Two Decades Later, the Original Splinter Cell is Still a Masterpiece

They don't make games like this anymore.

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vgvill8d ago

Too dated in my book. The AI is way too unpredictable to be acceptable today. It's definitely a game of its time.

Jingsing8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Agreed with those sentiments. The quality of the CPU controlled characters make or break a stealth game and they are pretty poor in all the Splinter Cell games by today's standard. This is what led me to playing Spies vs Mercs all the time in later games just to get a better stealth experience from a real person. Arguably Sony are making better stealth games albeit not Tom Clancy stuff.

TheProfessional8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

You should stick with fortnite or one of the countless bloodborne style games then. What a joke.

rlow18d ago

I had a good time with the game. It is a product of its time. But when it came out it was a must have game for a lot of people. I wish Ubisoft would make another game in the series or at least a reboot.

vgvill8d ago

They are making a remake, I think. I loved the original game when it was released, but I tried to play it again in recent years and just couldn't get on with it. The same with the older Hitman games.

PrecursorOrb8d ago

Yeah chaos theory still holds up though I gotta say. If you’re a fan of the series I highly suggest you go back to that one. Ubi has said they are remaking sc for “modern audiences”. I don’t have a lot of faith for the future of that company

Chocoburger7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Due to the lack of modern stealth games, and me constantly playing the MGS series, I've been looking for alternative stealth games to play, and went back and re-played the SC series recently. I wouldn't call SC1 or SC:PT masterpieces, there are AI issues, they're very much trial-and-error games, and that can lead to a lot of frustration. I also found the stories in this series to be boring, uninteresting, and just sloppily told. Cinematics are also of poor quality for both in-game scenes and CG cut-scenes, the soundtrack didn't leave any impression on me either.

Chaos Theory is better, but there was still a lot of room for improvement, and Double Agent (old gen ver.) was a sloppy mess that ended up a regression from CT. But still, at least they tried back then, these days Ubi-junk doesn't even try to make good games!

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A Matter Of Trust: What The Game Industry Should Do To Win Gamers Back

Skewed and Reviewed have written an Opinion Piece covering issues in the gaming industry, how current issues were issues years ago, and what can be done to help restore consumer trust.

anast13d ago

Nothing. It's up to the gamers to stop consuming content from companies that they don't agree with.

Garethvk13d ago

How do you know if you agree with it or not unless you play it? Which without conventions forces gamers to rely on trailers. Perhaps Demos should be made more frequently. But companies need to do better as well.

anast13d ago

Wait until release. Watch Gameplay. Exercise patience.

Garethvk13d ago

But is that not what they have now? Tons of gameplay or are you talking about watching actual gamers play it versus the trailers and streams? The big issue is that some companies pay streamers and influencers and they create content but for me; that is hardly a fair, unbiased, and factual look at a game.

1nsomniac13d ago

Get rid of the suits in the industry and job done!!

Garethvk13d ago

They usually are attached to the money sadly. It would be nice to have gamers in charge but you have so much money invested that business people are needed. Hence the issue; you need people who know business but are also gamers who know have an eye to the community. It sounds simple in theory that if you give gamers quality games that they want to play; money will be made. But that is not always so.

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From The Last of Us to Baldur's Gate 3: The success of the Game Music Festival

Marie Dealessandri speaks to Borislav Slavov and Gustavo Santaolalla about “the new golden age of games music”.

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