Xbox 360 - "I'm still alive"

Geekpulp looks at how things are shaping up for the Xbox 360 in 2008. Though many believe the PS3 have a chance of shooting ahead in the HD console war, Geekpulp looks at the situation in light of the Microsoft GDC keynote. Geekpulp writes: "The recent GDC in San Diego has shown that the 360 is still alive and kicking. Lets look at the developments that have been revealed that will ensure the 360 not only has a fighting chance but a shot at dominating another year."

[MaximusPrime]

really?

[MikeMichaels]

3 game announcements for titles we already knew were coming and a youtube type of homebrew thingy.

Aren't we all sitting at one of those right now, AKA our PC's and i don't care about those kind of games now.

I wanna see something new and actually innovative to show me MS can handle Sony's onslaught this year.

[Packet]

Microsoft simply does not have the internal developer studios to be able to come out with a comparable number of big exclusive games as Sony or even Nintendo. Microsoft only has around four internal 360 developers compared with ten Nintendo and 20 for Sony.

There just aren't going to be large numbers of exclusive 360 games coming out other than PC games getting 360 only versions.

For whatever reason Microsoft has not spent the seven years or so they've been in the console market building up their first party developer lineup. It is way too late to start now to make any significant difference almost 2.5 years into the 360's life.

[Gina-get-u]

@ Packet:

MS is not building up its internal game development capacity anymore because they do not have the corporate culture to do it well and they know it. They let Bungie go for that very reason. They also closed down Digital Anvil, Fasa, Beep, Studio Gigante etc. because MS had to face up to the fact that they could not develop good games in-house no matter how much money they throw at their studios (i.e. Rare).

MS' current approach is to outsource development of exclusive content to external studios. Look at the exclusives announced thus far: NG2, Too Human, Gears 2 - all by external developers with excellent reputations. The only internal exclusive is Fable 2. This current approach is theoretically capable of yielding more exclusive games with better quality for less cost than staffing internal studios.

Having said all that, the question is, why isn't there more? If MS is not buying studios, where is it investing its money? Why are there only 4 exclusives that we know about thus far? There had better be more on the way or the 360 lead won't last the year.

[iAmPS3]

Of course the 360 is alive, but it's still not gonna put up a big fight against the PS3, the PS3 is just a better choice.

[mikeslemonade]

It's always cheaper to buy out a small low budget first party and make them grow and over time they will be a good developer. Sony has done that over the 13 years with Zipper, Incognito,Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Polyphony, etc. and the list goes on. Microsoft buys rights to the "now" the EAs, the Rockstars, the Epics, etc. and those cost a lot of money. And instead of growing there internal studios they let them leave like Bungie, Bioware, and the developer for PGR. Microsoft philsophy is flawedd for this reason because normally every generation there's a new hot game. PS1 was Final Fantasy, PS2 was GTA, and PS3 generation will be something different it won't be GTA4 I can gurantee you that right now.

[godofthunder10]

i don't understand why people care about a console selling more then the other because they want receive any money ,hell they want even recieve a thank you.the 360 and ps3 will continue to sell well like it or not but it's the truth not some fanboy talking.i know that my post is ling but i only could post one time because ps3 fan don't like me because think that the 360 is a good system and the 360 fans don't like me because i think that the ps3 is a good system,but i want pick one side and lie about one system just to get a bubble.
sony and microsoft only care about selling consoles and they will lie to do it,sony lied about the p2 when it came out,they showed a clip of a game and said that it was the actual game play but the truth was leaked later and it wasn't even the actually game play.
when people start fighting over what system will sell more is just pathetic,they act as if their life depend on their system selling more then the other but the truth is that's it childish.
instead of worring if their system selling more then the other they need to just enjoy the games because the other system doesn't concern them one bit.
people need to face the facts,as long as people want to play games the 360 and ps3 is here to stay.all this talk about the 360 failing because br won is just stupid.people want to play games more then watch a movie on their system and microsoft doesn't own hd like a lot of people think,microsoft was just supporting hd and the reason they didn't put it in the 360 was because they wanted to wait to see who won before they did it.
sony doesn't really own br they are the ones who's pushing it because they have the power to.the truth is that br has more owners then just sony.just look at vhs,cds,and dvds, people doesn't even know who own them,hell they don't even know who was the main company pushing them.look at sony they was pushing beta against vhs,and they went against other formats and lost but they still use the formats that won.
some people are saying that sony will never let microsoft use br and it's just stupid talk.first sony want be able to stop microsoft from using it because they can't just say who could and can't because they don't have the power to do it by them selfs.the second reason is because it will hurt sony more then microsoft because microsoft is a software company first and sony is a hardware company.microsoft could just go back to just software with no problem but sony uses a lot of microsoft software in their products like computers,camera and other products.
i'm glad that we have a winner in the format war so we could see if it will sell like dvds,i think that even if hd would have won it will be hard to sell like dvds because dvd sells been dropping ever years for the last 4 to 5 years but i hope it does because i'm a movie collector and the pictures are great on br.what i'm trying to say that i'm glad that we have a winner because in another 3 years when the new xbox comes out it will have a br drive in it and by that time we will need it for games.
the 360 and ps3 are both damn good systems,hell about %97 of games are on both systems and they both have a few exclusives and some are good and bad and that's a fact.i know that people think that we need br for games now but the truth is that we don't.i know that the 360 have a few games that have more then one disc but so did the ps2 and ps fans didn't complain then.look at it this way.the 360 came out over 2 years ago and about %98 of the games on it only have one dic,i know that ps3 fans will say that games like uncharted on the ps3 will never fit on one dis and they are right,but if they take off all the different languanges that's on the game then it will.
if people want to enjoy all the good games then they will have to own both systems,for exsample the 360 have gears of war 2 coming out and the ps3 have killzone 2 coming out on it and they both will be big sellers and great games.so people need to just enjoy the system they have and play their games and just don't worry and fight over the other system because it doesn't really concern them.

[rubarb23]

for all those ps fanboys who are basically saying the ps3 will pwn the 360 this year, i just have to laugh at them. yes, thus far the ps3 has shown alot more exclusives for 2008, but let me ask you guys this: what's the point of taunting your exclusive games, if you guys don't buy games?
just look thus far at some of your titles - drake, rachet anyone? i mean, i've played both these games and they're really good yet they get no love from their ps owners? i mean wtf? look at COD 4, 360 pwn ps3 version 3 - 1 or something like that.
ps fanboys defend the ps3 yet they don't support it?
weird if you ask me, or it just adds to the fact that most people buy the ps3 as a blu ray player. software charts released thus far confirms this. hardly anything on the ps3 is on the top ten list, if any.
the reason i say the 360 will pwn ps3 this year is because 360 owners actually buy games. software sells hardware.
SO FAR, yes the ps3 has more announced exclusive, but something tells me soon ms will start announcing their games.maybe at e3. as weird as it sounds, i think it's probably ms's strategy to i guess first see what your opponents hand has first and then you show yours ftw.

[Iron Man 2]

Dark Sniper is sure you are...NOT!

Gears Of War 2 which is multiplatform and will be coming out for PC(superior version BTW)will not be enough to save the XBOX 360 in 2008

Gamers will know which console to pick when the time comes,and that console will be PLAYSTATION®3

$niper

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Running out of bubbles on your "other" account?

[DarkSniper]

Dark Sniper has a leigon of Sony Snipers that spans across America, Europe, Japan, Australia and beyond. Being the single most infulential member on N4G, it's imminent that Dark Sniper will have many imposters that idolize and emulate the work he does. For your PLAYSTATION® 3 needs, please refer to the DarkSniper with no spaces between the letters and ends with an R. Any other Dark Sniper is an imposter.

$niper

[Iron Man 2]

I'm Wario420,not the original DarkSniper,I just love DarkSniper's work,I will be going back to being Wario420 so ppl will stop complaining about DarkSniper having multiple accounts,BTW Jason 360,your the one with the multiple accounts Jason 360/GITPWNED/GETPWNED so stfu!

[DarkSniper]

Dark Sniper agrees. Git,GETpwned and Jason360 more than likely share duplicate accounts. Dark Sniper prays to the heavens above that he is dealt with accordingly for these violations.

$niper

[CallOfWar22]

The original gears was superior on the 360. Better graphics don't make a game superior. Get that through ur heads morons. Gears is a kind of game that a mouse and keyboard will not do justice to. Thats wat majority of PC gamers use. Sure better accuracy. But the controls just feel better on the 360 controller. N for the people who say 360 and pc games dont mean exclusive to Microsoft. Actually they do cuz PC doesn't count as a council. Even if u consider it a council, it takes up a really small percentage of the gaming market. Its called da big three not the big 4. 360 doesn't have any big hitters? O plz and Killzone 2 and Resistance are gonna be big hitters? Gears 1 out did both those originals. Gears is the next halo, do u not realize that? Halos dead and Gears had taken its place. before all u morons used to say, Xbox only has Halo. Now ur saying Xbox only has Gears. What does PS3 have that has had such a huge following like Halo and Gears? Definetly not the MGS games or Resistance or Killzone. It was actually GTA. And now they have lost that timely exclusive as well. and also GTA 4 will be even better on 360. Eat that bia**h

[GETPWNED]

DarkSniper, you're dumb. I'm me. No one else. I only make a new GETGITGOTPWNED name when it runs out of bubbles cuz of all u braindead sony droids taking my bubbles away for no reason. like u always do... u just GOTPWNED!!!!

[Fat Bastard]

Harry Potter knows that this article is untrue, and that You Know What is already dead. He asks you all to think of a single thing that will keep You Know What alive for another year. Harry Potter knows that the domination of blu ray will lead to even larger Playstation 3 sales. He knows that all the mudblood filth who think otherwise are probably pissed because they work in McDonalds and have no babes like Hermione or Ginny to keep them happy.

Avada Kedavra!

[Pain]

will get Gears 1 for it when its out, No M$ OS needed.

@getpwned when you make your new account can you please NOT use that Pedophile pic? its disturbing.

[Aleusia]

GETPWNED we take them away because you're a creepy f4ggot, now get the f*ck off my board.

[GETPWNED]

No problem. I actually have a "better" Av waiting ;)

@ aloser, stfu, homo.

[thekingofMA]

you are a freakin loser-that is all

[skynidas]

Interesting...

[PStriple703]

lmao, these make great cup holders

http://i59.photobucket.com/...

[Iron Man 2]

They also make great coffee tables as well

$niper

[MaximusPrime]

or make great scrambled egg.

[Mikelarry]

no i shouldnt be loling i got a 360 but my ps3 tells me its ok to lol

[Maddens Raiders]

that was funny.

[i Shank u]

so i cant get a cupholder for ps3? why the fvck would i want one then?

[mintaro]

i saw no reason why it would be considered "dead", after all there are still alot of games coming out for it this year, albeit not quite the heavy hitters of the PS3

EDIT: for those of you who disagreed with me, please state your reasoning, as i fail to see what there is to disagree with

[sock merchant]

I own both consoles and it is in my benifit for both to do really well this year. But looking through my reality glasses it looks like while the xbox 360 already has a proven record...the same cannot yet be said for the ps3. they had some really cool games but in far too limited quantities. Stoked for LBP and Resistance 2, but never been a big MGS fan. and Killzone 1 blew baby chunks so they have a lot to prove to me. We'll see though.

[Mikelarry]

@ sock im on the same boat as u. i own both consoles as well and i really want both that have a fantastic year. it seems to fully games you have to have atleast two consoles. Game on ppl

[IntelligentAj]

What exactly is wrong with Killzone. I just finished playing the game and I think it was a pretty good game. Not a Halo killer but a damn good game.

[witchking]

GDC was a good starting point for MSFT. They need to talk about their 2008 games, and they are beginning to have a lineup worthy of discussion: Too Human, Banjo, Fable 2, NG2, Gears of War... not bad... but again, at least 3 of these are M-rated and therefore going to be hard to push the "parents buying consoles for their kids" phenom.

LBP might very well have that level of appeal for the PS3 this year.

Personally, I think the 360 will have an okay year, but the PS3 is gonna outsell it worldwide. The 360 comes into the year with a 7m unit lead, but will likely end the year only up by 3-4m units.

2009 will be a battleground as PS3 will try to end '09 by taking over the 2nd spot. And no one is gonna catch the Wii any time soon, though I still have no earthly idea why people are buying this thing. My kids wanted one, and it sits there gathering dust while they play GH3 on the 360.

[Anything but Cute]

Hell, they didn't even create much hype for Gears of war 2.

They just showed a little more of Fable 2 and Too Human.

That's it, I don't remember much else.

[PStriple703]

i agree, i mean at least RFOM2 showed screen shots

[jackdoe]

True GeoW 2 is a heavy hitter, but then again, so is MGS 4.

[PStriple703]

the 360 only have 2 must buys for this year, and one is at the end of the year

[jackdoe]

I count as 360 must buys: NGII, Alan Wake(Hopefully this year), and GeoW II. I count as PS3 must buys: MGS4, LBP, WKC, and R2. Too Human, Halo Wars, Killzone 2 I'm a bit iffy on.

[trancefreak]

sorry man i wanted to agree with u and hit the disagree button my bad

[texism]

Halo Wars sound kinda meh to me. Like just using the Halo name to sell.

[Nostradamus]

XNA Dev Tools
Too Human
NG2
Fable 2
Alan Wake
Gears 2
GTA4 Content

Looks like some good exclusives. Plus all the multiplatform games, I should be buying quite a few games this year.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Left 4 Dead and Frontlines

[masterg]

It's not a bad line-up.

But it's nothing compared with the PS3 or last years 360.
And I wouldn't hold my breath for Alan Wake.

Even with Gears 2 (Which is my most wanted this year) the line-up looks mediocre at best.

[Ru]

is where legends are born

[Sev]

I really thought MS was going to announce some new huge exclusives, to compete with Sony this year.

Sony has so many AAA exclusive games coming out this year.

Gears 2? Only a tech demo was shown and a teaser trailer. Doesnt sound like it will be ready for this November, must be next November.

[shotputking]

could you please list sony's big games for this year?? everyone on this site keeps saying that, but i can't find any lists anywhere.

MGS4, LBP, Gran Turismo: Prologue, Resistance... what else?

[jackdoe]

You'd be surprised how fast some developers can pump out a new AAA game, Insomniac has it down to a T. So if Epic plans it correctly, they can ship the game by November. Oh, and if you want to know the Sony bighitters, here are the following: MGS4, LBP, GT4, R2, KZ2, WKC plus all the other multiplatform games.

[shotputking]

that's it? really? what is he missing?

[games4fun]

prologue? were talking gt5, LA Niore made by R*, Tekken 6, Socom Confrontation, DC Universe, Dark Mist, Motorstorm 2, Wardevil, Eight Days, The Agency and possibly FFXIII

add those to the already stated list of LPB,MGS4,Resis2,KZ2, and White Knight Story

then its the multiplatform games to go along with it

that is what he is missing.

Edit: @below thanks i forgot Haze, Yakuza, MLB, Hot Shots Golf, and Singstar lol and bubbles for you

[sheng long]

he's missing Tekken 6, Haze, MLB 08 the show, Infamous, Hot Shots Golf, Socom, Wipeout HD, Yakuza, Singstar, Etc.

games4fun, you beat me to it.

[nicholascage24]

are million sellers in each of japan ,North america and europe.

same cannot be said for an x360 game which might only be hit in north america.

However after seeing January's NPD i seriously doubt whether x360 can even come back at all this year.

He left out War Devil, Motorstorm 2, and a lot more that games4fun listed.

2008 is SONY's year whichever way you look at it.

KZ2 will be the best FPS of 2008. Also Dont forget Crisis is coming exclusively to ps3 this year. Crytek is also trying to bring it on x360 but are met with serious power limitations and i kinda believe that SONY would make Crisis ps3 exclusive by bribing Crytek

[cmrbe]

GT5 and MGS4. FF is the other. These are truly big hitters in all regions.

[velaxun]

sauce plz on crysis. All I've heard is speculation that it would be coming to PS3, so if you have some concrete info, please send it my way

[adalwolfe]

They are lying shotputking.. honestly

All these games, and you can look for yourself have release dates listed as TBA 2008:
la noire, socom confrontation, R2, KZ2, WKC, war devil, eight days, the agency, FFXIII, motorstorm 2, and even tekken 6

Not to say any names, but some people are soo dumb they do not understand that TBA means "to be announced", and when it states "release date: TBA 2008" that just means the release date is "to be announced" sometime in 2008.. get it?! It does *NOT* mean the game will come out in 2008, for crying out loud, majority of these games haven't even showed gameplay demonstrations just some little cgi trailer. These fanboys are just listing every single game they know of coming to ps3, and comparing with confirmed 360 game lists.

The only games CONFIRMED for 08 (with release months) on ps3 are mgs3, GT5, haze, yakuza oh and Little big planet.. I know its a sad little list, but thats ALL they have, majority of it is just delays from last year. Sony is just stringing along these fanboys like it has been for years, and they just keep eating it up like the smucks they are. To me the only one I am even partially interested in is Haze, and i would gladly give it up for any of fable2/gears of war2/splinter cell conviction/too human

[Kleptic]

^^^uh...where are you looking for all of these TBAs?...

Resistance 2 was confirmed by Ted Price, you know; the president of Insomniac, to ship sometime during the fall of 2008...there is a TBA specific date...but it is still releasing this year...KZ2 was confirmed for a ship date for sometime in 2008 also, by the developers...with rumors pointing towards a mid summer release...

just because amazon and Gamestop list things as TBA 2008...that doesn't mean that they automatically are not going to make a 2008 release...it doesn't mean anything in fact...just that a specific date has yet to be specified...

and get your crappy fanboy mentality out of the gamer zone...

[trancefreak]

that line up doesn't impress me as that of the ps3. i wouldn't run out and buy a 360 for it.

[UnblessedSoul]

I thought there would be more bombshells but the only good thing was gears 2 which is the same as ut3

[wageslave]

You know what is FASCINATING.

That every single anti-MS story, like this ridiculous one here, INSTALLY gets descended on by a pack of rabid PS3 fanboys.

In 6 minutes, there are 30 comments on this article.

This is clearly being co-ordinated.

They descend on a negative story, make a bunch of Troll comments and drive up the Temperature.

N4G is being gamed.

[Martini]

What else is new ??

[ForTheFallen]

ALL HAIL THE MARCH OF THE GLORIOUS PS3.

Gears looks like a new game, getting it for PC.

[CR7JUVE1897]

Showed what can potentially done with the system this year, and they are making a concerted effort to expand on what they normally do well.

Give them credit where credit is due.

No new games??

I thought the GDC wasn't about games, it's about the applications that can be used tocreate games and enhance the experience.

And yes, I am an owner of both systems.

[jackdoe]

GDC isn't really meant to be a platform for announcing games, which is probably why we won't see any announcements from Sony or Nintendo at this show. I don't quite understand why MS would announce GeoW 2 without accompanying screenshots or in game footage though.

[kingme71]

I wondered that myself. Isn't the GDC supposed to be developers getting together to discuss development, technologies, tips/tricks that sort of thing? Why is it a platform for companies to demo and announce new games to the consumer?

[Bladestar]

Exactly... it's not about announcing games.. but more for tech demos, new technologies, development tools and new platforms... and though microsoft pretty much delievered on all these areas haters will not admit it.. instead will try to spin it and ask about game annoucements totally irrelevants to developers... as if these developers don't now this information already (games in development)..

Microsoft just game a developers a whole new platform to develop for and make money... Zune... probably the happiest day for game developers hobbies and people that want to learn how to make games... they also stoke about Unreal Engine improvemens for the xbox 360... what else is there to want for a Game Developers conference? what? Microsoft new games for 2009? why should developers care about that?

as matter of fact... concider these microsoft announcements are microsoft dropping us a bone... I got out of GCD what I wanted.. XNA, Zune, Utube for games...

[Greysturm]

Bladestar its not the haters, its the fact that half their conference wasnt aimed at developers but gamers. From the moment NG2 appeared nothing else had the slightest bit to do with developers, it was a shameless self promotion of microsoft exclusive games for this year. Another quarter was spent promoting the improvements on epic's unreal engine which has nothing to do with microsoft except a lot of games use it. The remaining quarter was composed of two things, stats and gloating (like all gamer show presentations) and the only thing that should have been there the XNA news.

So having spent most of their conference doing other stuff rather than talking of what they should at this venue its quite depressing that was all that they had to offer.

[adalwolfe]

they did show gears of war 2 gameplay, see video here:

http://www.gametrailers.com...

They showed, how they can support many enemies on screen at once, the new water effects, the new destructible environments, and other pretty cool things..

[hotshot127]

resistance 2 >>>>> any 360 fps this year (killzone 2 for backup)
360 has no good fps exclusives this year

mgs >>>>>> splinter cell 5

final fantasy >>>>>> fable

little big planet >>>>>>> banjoo

grandturismo >>>>>>>&g t; any racing simulator (do you guys even have any)

tekken 6 >>>>>> any fighting game on 360 (does it even have a fighting game in 08)

gears 2 >>>>>> socom

ninja gaiden 2 >>>>>> (does the ps3 even have any hack in slash this year) (too human for back up)

you do the math

[CallOfWar22]

Recent Final Fantasies have had the most amazing reviews. It wouldnt be a shocker if Fable 2 beat out Final Fantasy. I mean come on its the year Giants beat the Patriots, n e thing can happen!!! Killzone has proved nothing besides great graphics. Resistance 2 well be great but not spectacular. Metal Gear is Metal Gear, cant go wrong with it. Sure it seems that PS3 has an advatage right now. But 360 has major advantages too. A Better GTA 4. Thats a big factor believe it or not. Damn rite Gears 2 will Pawn Socom. Even Gears 1 will pawn the new socom. To me FPS are so played out. They have been over done to death. Its nice to see MS doing diff things. Such as Ninja Gaiden, Too Human, Fable 2. Gears 2!!! How can anyone say MS doesn't have any heavy hitters this year. Are u blind? PS3 isnt as powerful as u all think it is. If PS3 is so powerful how come sony themselve can't make games that take advantage of its power???? Uncharted??? Hmmm Gears still looks better. Its just cuz U can see more detail in Uncharted. More jungle environments. Gears is really dark and loses its beauty cuz of it. Besides if uncharted had a multiplayer it wouldnt even look close to Gears.

[Whoooop]

So much for Microsoft announcing games that are coming soon and not next year...

Same crap this year... nothing new.

Microsoft thought that 2007 would be enough... They did worse in 2007 than in 2006 with their flag titles... On top of that, the PS3 outsold the 360 in 2007.... haha - Talking about getting owned in every way.

360 ran out of gas... Not even GeOW in 2009 will save this unfitted for next gen console.

[SSCOOLCHEA]

sure games like halo , gears , mass did well but how long can you go with the same franchise ? ask youself this the xbox bank so much on gears and halo to move there console but you know what happen there . ala dreamcast even with sega pretty good first party lineup they still managed to die ...I see the same thing all over again.

[phony force slayer]

u sony defence force idiot

[bednet]

Another thing is that come November, the launch 360s will be out of warranty...that should sell some more consoles as the ones that bought the first 360s will probably buy another one if theirs take that strairway to the big house in the sky...

[kingme71]

That's kind of depressing actually.

[LaChance]

Theres a very big chance that the 360 will dominate once again in software.
Alot of the PS3 games for 2008 are either unproven franchizes or coming out in 2009 (FF13 , LA NOIRE, KZ is an unproven franchise cuz the first one stank , Res 2 aint bigger than Geow 2 , God of War 3 is coming 2009 , LBP so original it might just be a flop ,Team Ico game coming 2009 , Heavy Rain = unproven francise , Haze (hum hum ) and the list goes on.
Hey but at least they got MGS4.But after seeing that MGS3 sold 4 million on a 120 million install base I wonder how much MGS 4 will sell.
By the way GT5 is coming 2009

[hotshot127]

does you're dumbass even know what mgs3 went up against?

gta san andreas
halo2
half life 2

and its a single player game

4 million on a 120 million user base. its even HARDER TO SELL YOUR'E GAME WHEN YOU HAVE HUNDREDS OF OTHER GAMES GETTING ATTENTION ALSO.

so why did GRANDTHEFT AUTO ONLY SELL 7 MILLION ON A 120 MILLION USER BASE? idk maybe because thier was competition for it.

and grandturismo has been confirmed for a december release dipsh!t

little big planet so original it might flop? hahaha the gaming media cant wait for that game...........it will not flop.

mgs4
resistance 2 not as good as gears? lets see how it turns out now that resistance 2 isnt a LAUNCH TITLE and gears actually has COMPETITION.
(comp can change reviews)

killzone 2.................im still curious also

you forget about tekken.
you forget about socom

you forget about final fantasy which was confirmed for the end of the year dumbass

so THINK before you comment. and i notice you 360 fanboys are out in full force today......................... .OFF OF GEARS BEING CONFIRMED.

something that we all knew already.lol

all you shouldnt talking about PROVEN FRANCHISES because you might as well only count GEARS 2 AND NINJA GAIDEN 2.

so we have MGS4, RESISTANCE 2, GRAND TURISMO, TEKKEN 6, SOCOM.

hows that for PROVEN FRANCHISES.

EDIT: and FINAL FANTASY.

[Bill Gates]

With a comment like that, there's also a very big chance you may be smoking some very heavy BABOON crack.....AHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHA

"360 will dominate once again in software.".....AAHAHHAHAA HA

What is wrong with you BABOON? Oh never mind I just answered my own question. You're a BABOON, that's what's wrong with you.....AAHAHAHHAHA

[snoopgg]

tellin yourself this if it makes you feel good. Killzone 1 wasn't that good cause it had limitations on the ps2. Killzone 1 and 2 are two different games. Killzone 2 is a graphical beast. I know it will run better then that stuttering framerate and graphical blunder known as Halo 3. Don't judge Haze until you play it, it just might be good being that its from Free Radical developement. Resistance was great, but Resistance 2 looks so much better and they are putting alot into this version. Gran Turismo will look and play better then any racer on the 360. God of war will be outstanding. I think there will be a new Socom this year and don't see that being to shabby either. Metalgear will kick some arse. Ps3 will dominate in 2008.

[DJ]

Only three big titles for 2008? Pray to god they have something new (and impressive) to showcase at E3, otherwise Sony will trample all over them.

[HarryEtTubMan]

So wheres this big news? Gears 2? LOL OK. PS3 is pwning the junkbox and WILL CONTINUE to own the Crustbox.

[kewlkat007]

I own all consoles, and if one would of told me Ms would release a console that would shake things up a bit in the gaming industry, I would of laughed at you.

I know fanboys of one console will never give MS credit for taking on the two headed monster Nintendo/Sony but MS must of seen a piece of the Pie that wanted something different.

Competition has done great things for network architecture, prices, games, and so on. With so many games that came out for the xbox name, this would never have been possible if only one console Existed.

I believe this year is Sony's year with it's big 3rd-party titles, but the 360's calendar is no slouch.

Sony is on it's 3rd console, Nintendo on it's 5th and MS on it's second so it can't be doing that bad.

"alive and kicking" in 2008 MS will be..great gaming for all consoles this year really. Ok fanboys of 1 console you may disagree and hate but still Ms continues to sell software at high rates, which is the only thing that most important to devs.

**MS will focus on these factors**

1.With big/constant software/content sales, comes more developers.

2.With more developers comes more games/exclusives/titles.

3.With more games(AAA, AA, A, b, c) comes the install-base and hard ware sales.

[cmrbe]

PS3 has taken the limelight this year but the x360 on its own with no comparison to the PS3 should still be a pretty good console for the x360 userbase like in last year and the year before.

This is what i observed from last year. Despite the x360 getting all the high profile, highly rated games compare to the PS3. I still had one of the best PS gaming year last year on my PS3.

[Mr Marbles]

Help me out here, why does everyone keep saying the PS3 lineup is so great, it is about the same as the 360 line up, except the 360 has more exclusives, keep in mind at least two 360 exclusives are out now. The media is ignoring most of the 360 exclusives because they are so busy spreading Sony propaganda.

[cmrbe]

1. MS exclusive lineup are mostly new or unproven franchise compare to the PS3. A game like MGS4 has proven itself more times than say Gears.

2. PS crowd preference for well know proven PS franchise. Eg. the 100 million plus PS fans would care more about GT5 than say Halo is to 24 million xbox owners.

3. Major PS exclusives cater for different tastes/gamers like say GT to racing fans,FF for RPG fans, God Of war to action adventure,MSG for stealth action fans and Singstar to those who love music. If you look at the x360 top exclusive franchise you would normally see shooters in the top 3.

[Ps3ShellShock]

just like HDDVD had a chance...rite..

if u think 360 is gonna came anywhere near PS3 in 2008 - then ur just as blind as the HDDVD group.

gears of war 2 - wont look any better then UT3 on the PS3 and wont push hardware.

too human looks brutal...the fight just seeems so choppy and not smooth at all - did u see the bear super? wtf was that hahaha...anyways not impressed at all with this game and for it using the UT3 engine and we look at games like gears and UT3 this just looks like a PS1 game compared to those titles..

xbox can only try 2 hold on...games like RFOM2/KZ2/MGS4/FF13/GT5 + blu-ray winning cant be touched...theres over 120 million ps2 users just waiting for an excuse to buy a PS3 and those games are it...with HOME also coming into play itll just add more of a reason to pick up a PS3.

GDC 2008 - sony isnt showing off anything big - as its been stated that they are having a low key this time around...ppl may disagree but ive been rite about everything else...and i know again that PS3 will take 360 this year..

[Mr Marbles]

Just stop, the PS3 lineup is not even going to be as great as the 360 2007 lineup, you claim every game on the 360 will suck, and every game on PS3 will be the second coming of Christ, you are just a fanboy, clearly you cannot be taken seriously, there is no way of knowing all the 360 games will suck and all the PS3 games will be great, you have not played any of them.

[CallOfWar22]

Yea ps3 has the momentum. But how did they get that momentum started? Ummm Price Drop! U kno its coming folks. All its gonna take is the 360 to be 300. and their sales will sky rocket. I believe that MS has been holding back from shipping out councils because their improving them for 1 and then stocking up for the price drop!!!! Just watch this kill the momentum for Sony!!! I would love to see Sony follow up with a price drop cuz it would put them even in a bigger hole that they can imagine. Pretty soon Wii will have to drop their price cuz 360 and PS3 are getting close to their price range.

[moparful99]

What you dont even make sense? You know that as soon as microsoft makes a price cut sony will be right behind them. Hole? Sony is already reporting profits from their gaming division. 400 million for the last quarter of 2007. Wow big hole, sony has halved the production cost of the ps3 and with the victory of blu-ray and the idustry backing expect the costs to drop even more. To add to this sony and IBM have reduced the size and costs of the cell processor which will also have a huge impact on production costs. Microsoft is killing themselves this generation. Instead of focusing on reducing the costs of the console they need to put all of their efforts into making the RRoD go away.... Sorry but you have flawed logic...

[Rice]

Huh the 360 is dead i didnt even notice...

[tk]

Just a while back the talk in the media was that the PS3 needs to be "saved" and that it was a sluggish seller. Turns out the PS3 version of new cross platform titles are selling better than XB360 versions.

Now suddenly the XB360 needs to prove that it is still alive. Quite a turnaround. From beating their chest with the first to 10M will win, to PS3 is collecting dust on the shelves, to no games for PS3... and now... XB360 is dead last with prospects of staying there permanently. Analysts... you got to love how they spin the stories to try and make it look like they are actually analyzing anything.

[caffman]

DMC4? CoD4?

[bootsielon]

Still alive doesn't mean dominating. 360 will keep failing in Japan, Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were supposed to do SOMETHING about its state and they didn't work. Gran Turismo 5 will own any racing experience present on any console before it. None of the games coming for 360 this year compares to most games on PS3 coming this year. Microsoft blew their load too fast with Halo 3, DVD9 and lack of HDD.

Microsoft's GDC conference was absolutely underwhelming. Gears of War 2, Too Human and Fable 2 were expected to make a (no) show, they weren't too big of an announcement. By the way, the fact that the Ninja Gaiden Sigma engine is there for PS3 and Ninja Gaiden 2 is ready to launch on 360 with a very similar engine should tell you something about its "exclusivity".

Youtube of games? Yeah, let's see how many want to code in C#, not to mention how many of those games mean quality. If that's what is gonna compete with Little Big Planet, then GOOD LUCK! It's gonna be 5000 coders trying to do something original where 50 games of a small scale will succeed, while there are gonna be about 200,000 level builders where 2000 levels might succeed. 2000 huge levels against 50 mini games that in no way look or feel as detailed as LBP. Seriously, good luck.

Where was Killer Instinct 3? How about Banjo Kazooie anything? Dead Rising 2? Halo 4? How about NEW IP? NOTHING? How about Xbox LIVE Universe? Blu-ray 360? Free Xbox LIVE Gold? Something that blows our collective minds? There was absolutely nothing to be excited about that we didn't know before.

"Lets look at the developments that have been revealed that will ensure the 360 not only has a fighting chance but a shot at dominating another year"

Sorry, 360 will trail this year. When did it dominate last year? It was outsold by Wii, PS2, PSP, PS3 and DS, so what exactly did 360 do? 360 is the name in LEAST households when it comes to gaming. Not to mention how many of those consoles RRODed.

The 360 is on life support by its fantards like Wageslave, theMart, Genuine, Zhuk, Power of Green, Jason, and that dumbass with the hulk avatar. Microsoft should keep milking these morons so that they at least make a profit this generation instead of focusing on beating Sony while losing another 6 billion dollars.

[Martini]

I don't think that MS has shown all it's cards yet for this year and it's nice to know that they are concentrating on the near future unlike sony, that has a tendency of overpromising and underdelivering lately - how long have you been promised those "oh -so big" 3 titles that are hopefully coming out this year ? BTW MGS 4 will be a costly mistake IMO.

It might be just a matter of personal preference but I like MS approach a lot better then sony's.

[hotshot127]

resistance 2 will be good but not spectacular? please explain to me what they coud do better then.....

gears looks better then uncharted? thats when i knew you were a joke. reviewers have stated it and what you're doing is looking at it from a perspective of what YOU LIKE not that actual technicalities of the graphics in which uncharted is far more advanced.
gears being in the dark takes away its beauty? dumbass, since its in the dark, the graphics arent really as good as you would like to believe.lol. ITS A GAME, their is no such thing as hiding its true beauty dumbass.lol IF THEY MADE IT in the light, it would look different.

killzone2 just graphics? i'll give you that one. although it looks very good graphically AND has a cover system which is the only thing that made gears big because it sure as hell wasnt the story or online play.

mgs4............you better not talk about mgs.

and fable beating final fantasy. since you guys love looking at a game from the past to judge its future iteration then fable never got that many good scores the first time around.

so what was you're comment about again?

[Cartesian3D]

360 will be alive for another year.. thats ok ..

but Alive doesnt mean they will sell like EVEN last year(in 2007 they sold 1 million less than ps3 even with HALO3 and mass effect)

I think 360 will sell like 5 or 6 million units this year.. and ps3 will sell 11 to 12 million..

[Jigsaw-]

ps3 is doing horrible in the u.s and getting demolished in software sales. on sept alone it was 500,000 vs 100,000 lmao!

[jmare]

what I find funny about the whole XNA/Youtube of games idea as an answer to LBP is(unless I'm mistaken. I've never seen the XNA dev kit): XNA is a SDK for professionals, advanced level hobbyists, students, etc. LBP is easier to play with since the tools are mapped to a controller and there (likely) is little to no coding involved. This is the same issue with modding on unreal, people love playing the mods but very few people that can make good ones of even take the time to try. Just look at the popularity of Forge, if you actually had to code the mods or alterations of come up with their own artwork. Forge would've died quickly. XNA is ambitious, but if the SDK is more traditional than something like LBP or Forge, I don't think it will go very far. Most people think games are for playing not working.

EDIT: Why would you disagree with what I wrote? And be a little b!tch about not saying why you disagree. If you have something to say, man up and say it. Do you actually think that people want to spend time coding versus playing?

[kewlkat007]

That's gotta be the dumbest comment today...Plenty nominees tho

Without free creativity and programming where would we get the games we do play?

How do you think a programmer that works on great games got started. Back in the day there was never things like this. It's only helping promote the industry in a creative fashion.

I don't expect fanboys to understand since their console daddy is not the ones behind it.

[sock merchant]

was trying to hit agree but the cursor strayed.

you have to be an idiot to think that XNa is a bad idea. Sure coding isnt for everyone, but neither is building levels in LBP. I cant really be assed with that kind of thing, but I am real keen to played well constucted LBP levels. The same goes for XNa. Do I intend to code any games? NO. but I sure am interested in playing games that may have never seen the light of day otherwise.

[jmare]

@ both above:

I understand that a lot of devs today got their start coding at home or making mods. However, I said that the user friendliness of XNA is likely to be less than something like LBP or Halo's Forge. I never said that XNA was a bad idea, just that due to the level of required knowledge to effectively use XNA, I think that it will not take off as much as LBP has the potential to. Think about the ratio of people who play user-generated mods to the people that make them. Now look at how many people have dabbled in Forge. Next time try to comprehend the words.

[XxZxX]

no one say you are dead, you are just cripple like little timmy.

[pixelsword]

...Timmy!

[eagle21]

"xbox 360: I'm Still Alive"....."How to convert HD DVD to Blu-ray"...who would have "thunk it"...lol I always knew.

[Scions Wrath]

There are a few 360 games i will definitely be getting this year but it's clear that PS3's huge line-up of quantity AND quality games just cannot be ignored.

[Figboy]

Take back the $50 Million you spent on exclusive GTAIV content, and use that money to start up another three or four development studios.

i don't think i was the only person disappointed with your GDC showing, and while i don't think it was *CRAP, it absolutely *PALED in comparison to what Sony did at GDC last year, which was get developers excited about developing again, *AND getting people excited about the PS3 again.

Sony has managed to keep that momentum going with expertly timed announcements (ie, Resistance 2 being unveiled last month), where you have just felt the need to sit and be quiet, and tout the same games we heard about at E3 2006, with not much new.

Gears of War 2 is great and all, but anybody with a working *BRAIN knew that was coming this year. what else you got?

not much, considering that you don't have enough internal studios working on exclusive content for you guys.

hopefully by E3, you'll have a few more surprises, but then again, with 20 internal development houses, Sony still has quite a lot of surprises left themselves...

[wowsauce]

What sony did at GDC last year was practically against everything that is GDC. GDC IS NOT ABOUT ANNOUNCING GAMES. GDC is about announcing new features in your gamesm, new ways to use the engines, new ideas in game design, and other DEVELOPMENT/DESIGN things.

It is not E3. Anyone who thinks it is is just blinded because of the act of heresy sony put on last year.

Also, XNA>LBP. Unlike LBP, which is a level editor for a single game, opening XNA for downloadable games is an infinite number of possible new original games. Unlike major studios, indie devs have the bonus of being able to try new ideas that haven't been tested before. Those are the kind of great things ur going to see coming out of the new marketplace.

[Figboy]

i'm not 10 years old here, wowsauce.

do you think i don't know what GDC is about.

maybe i wasn't clear in my post, but the fact of the matter is that Sony used GDC to kill quite a few birds with one stone.

1. they announced two new games for the PS3.

2. these announcements also served to highlight for developers the unique direction Sony wanted to take the PS3 (ie, Home showcased their commitment to bringing a unified online community to gamers, and Little Big Planet was an example of their take on user generated content).

3. such dramatic and dynamic examples as Home and Little Big Planet helped to reinvigorate developers in PS3 development, as you no doubt noticed, Sony has been the talk of the gaming industry since then.

with the absence of a huge gaming show like E3 (it's been scaled down significantly), developers have to fit in announcements of games when they can.

as for your tired XNA>LBP: how do *YOU KNOW?

both could be great, both could be busts. from what i've seen LBP deserves every bit of kudos it's received from those that have covered it, and the XNA is a *GREAT idea for the 360 community. both are completely different, and are only examples of how different their markets are. Microsoft and Sony have different visions. this is a *GOOD thing. i don't want a repeat of last gen, where the consoles were practically cookie cutter versions of one another (ie, the Gamecube, X Box, and Playstation 2 were all going after the same markets). this generation is more diverse, and i welcome that with open arms.

i'll leave the X>Y uselessness to the fanboys, thank you.

[wowsauce]

You aren't supposed to show off new titles at GDC, regardless of whether or not sony did it last year. E3 is still around, it's still wide open to the press (and more accessible to them because they don't have to deal with crowds), and just as big a press event as it's ever been. The public just isn't allowed anymore.

The LBP/XNA remark was at someone up higher, I just had to say it. Personally, I'd rather have a service where I can both make whatever I want, and play any of the things other people make for free than be able to play the same platformer with new levels.

[leon76]

MGS 4 , KILLZONE 2, RESISTANCE 2 , TEKKEN 6, GRAN TURISMO 5, LITTLE BIG PLANET, GOD WAR 3, FINAL FANTASY XIII, HAZE,
No game announced for the x360 will come close to these Spectacular Games!!!!!!!!!!! sorry xbots!!!!!!!

[macsto]

Gears of War 2
Alan Wake
Halowars
Fable 2
Too Human
Ninja Gaiden 2
Exclusive GTA 4 content

vs

MGS4
Killzone 2
Resistance 2
Little Big Planet

errrr Home?

Then the fact that the large majority of multiplat games are better on 360..

Victor: Xbox 360, goodnight.

[RJ2000]

We also have perhaps the best sports game of our generation. MLB the Show.

[Diugu]

Gears of War 2
Alan Wake
Halowars
Fable 2
Too Human
Ninja Gaiden 2
Exclusive GTA 4 content

vs

MGS4

PS3 wins.

Anyways.. you forgot quite a few games for the PS3 there.. didn't you?

[riksweeney]

OK, so I can make games for the Xbox 360 and give them away for nothing, but how much is it going to cost ME to give something away?

Apparently I'll have to subscribe (pay) before I can do this.

If I'm going to give something away then I'd rather not pay to do it in the first place.

I'll stick to making games using SDL.

[Scions Wrath]

Thats a really poor comparison. Your missing these and more for PS3.
I guess intentionally...

Metal Gear Solid 4 + Metal Gear Online
Resistance 2
Killzone 2
PlayStation Home
Little Big Planet
The Getaway 3
Infamous
Prototype
Final Fantasy XIII
GTA IV - PS3 content
Unreal Tournament 3 - out in eu tommorow :)
Haze
Final Fantasy Versus XIII

And a lot more that we won't know about until E3 2008.

[RJ2000]

Don't forget FF7 remake! And like i said above MLB the SHOW!

[RJ2000]

Whats with all the sh*ty topics today?

[ROCCOZILLA]

xbox will be dead in a years time.its not global,free,hd or reliable.its DEAD.PLAY B3YOND!

[kosha]

ive only got a ps3 and theres nothing this year thats tempting me to get a 360 apart from gow2
i would much rather spend all my money on the top quality ps3 games comin out this year

[The Warmonger]

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Mu5afir]

Releasing one game, that many agree is highly overrated somehow brings the Xbox 360 back from the "precived" path of doom it was heading towards? Let's not get carried away here folks, Gears of War isn't he second coming, and Xbox 360 isn't doomed, yet.

[HalfFireWater]

@Scion some of those exclusives you named aren't really exclusive, ie prototype, haze, and who knows what else. And just becuase it is exclusive doesn't mean that it is good. To everyone else stop please stop it with i have more exclusive than you game. PS3 owners has not purchased the games(outside of Japan) to warrant any big hooplah.

And multi-platform games going over 2 million or even a mill for that matter are some what good, but more for the developer than the system, if you make a good game, no matter what system, people will buy it, ie COD 4. How many exclusives does 360 have that are over the mill or 2 mill mark, according to VG charts only 13 take away forza and that is 12, take away Lost planet and it goes to 11, i didn't and in Oblivion, but that sold alot. so lets say 12. 12 in two years, that is impressive for exclusives. Here is the link: http://vgchartz.com/worldto...

How many did Sony have, lets see 8 total over a mil, only 3 exclusives. 3 in one year that is really actually good. But if you remove motorstorm as a bundle, (like I did with forza) that leaves 2 exclusives. heres the link: http://vgchartz.com/worldto...

And ass end creed sold equally as well on both system, so they both have their idiots. heres a rehash, over 1 million sellers 360-34, PS3-8, over 1 mil exclusives 360-13, PS3-3, wow what a difference a year makes.

The difference in user base is only 7mi but the difference in game sales is a whole lot more. More games don't mean more sales, better games mean more sales

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

360 is pathetic go buy a PC gaming rig ,get same games but better!!

Not impressed Flatout 360 is old news!!!All theese PC game engines on 360 are getting old..

[miiiguel]

The thing is, we've been hearing about PS3 awesomeness dor quite some time now, and yet it has proven nothing.
A year ago I was hearing about how Lair, and Home and something called Afrika would obliterate 360...
Now this new thing called "this is year is the year...!"..., let me have my doubts, while I have a 360, ya know... just in case...

Some precious comments on this thread:
"PS3 has taken the limelight this year" - Why ? name a reason
"I have a PS3 and I have no reason to buy a 360" - Why so many PS-only fellow gamers have the need to publicize this?, I mean last-gen no-one cared..., something must have changed.

All in all, this 2008 is the year of the PS3, seriously caress evidence. All talk and no play make PS3 a dull girl.

[Alcohog]

As much a step forward XNA is for Microsoft, the fact that Sony already has an open platform with indie developers submitting games isn't that impressive. Games like Flow, Pixeljunk Monsters, and Everyday Shooter are all independent developers. Once again, its something Microsoft is charging a membership for which Sony has for free.

[Citizen Cook]

M$ will dominate 2008! They STILL have all the games. Sony might have one or two, but M$ have a massive back catalogue now, and many new AAA games in the pipeline for release this year. Not only that, but M$ have the better versions of all the multiformat titles. PS3 gets the bone.

HA HA HA HA!

[Sony sucks balls]

Of course Microsoft will dominate 08. Pos3 doesn't have 1 game for it that makes it worth buying.

[texism]

Despite all the MS bashing from PS3 fanboys, they are just never willing to look at the fact that for as newbie AND a software-only company, the amount of noise MS has made is pretty damn impressive.

Also BTW PS3 retards, GDC is not a place for announcing games. If MS wasn't such an attention whore, they wouldn't have announced anything at all. And besides, we actually have dates for our stuff. We know they are coming. We don't have a bunch of TBAs.

[slymaddox]

interesting

[Cherchez La Ghost]

I do get tired of the rethoric about the PS3. The 360 has some "DAM" good games coming out this year also. Sony is the "Patriots" and the 360 are the "Giants". 'Nuff said!!

Quick question?! What does the PS3 have after MGS4 & KZ2?!

Disagree button on the bottom right, Sucka's!!!!

[SonOfHeaven]

With DMC4 selling close to 200,000 since its release on the PS3 in the US. The other games in the series never sold over 4 million copies worldwide lifetime with over 100 million PS2 systems out there. Expect MGS4 at the very least double those sales in US alone in a shorter amount of time. People will buy PS3 games once the big hitters come out and MGS4 will start it off this 2nd quarter.

The lineup for the PS3 will be great this year. MGS4,Resistance 2, Tekken 6,GT5,Killzone 2, WKS(hopefully), among other titles and some of these titles are proven franchises. Its going to be a great year for Sony this year.

[The Killer]

again what year did 360 dominated? because for sure its not 2007, ps3 sold more consoles than 360!

[HalfFireWater]

I keep hearing people talk about exclusives like they are the end all be all, but in the PS2 life, the number one game is GTA:SA and that is becuase it was a timed exclusive. Next is GT3:A-spec, a racing game. And they still only add up to 30 mil. Sony's top five sellers on PS2 are 3 GTA and 2 Gran Turismo's. Next five 1-FFX, 2-NFS, 1 Medal of Honor Frontlines, and then MGS-2. So the top ten are 4 racers, 3 GTA, 1 RPG, 1 FPS, and 1 action(MGS). knock of GTA, NFS, and Medal of honor and you are left with 4 exclusives that sold a total of 28 million copies, and that is with 100 consoles out there. That means 28% of your of your buyers wanted those exclusives 72% could care less about your exclusives to make them top ten sales (not total sales but top ten represents the big hitters) the other 72% are third party. Heres the proof: http://vgchartz.com/worldto...

NOw lets look at xbox the top ten are Halo 2, Halo, Splinter Cell, Fable, GTA double Pack, PGR, NFS Underground 2, KotoR, GTA:SA, TES:Morrowwind. That is 2 racers(PS2- 4), 3 RPG(1), 2 GTA (even), 2 FPS (1), 1 action(even). So the make up in is pretty even, everyone loves GTA, PS loves racers, XBOX loves RPGs, and everyone loves shooters. Now exclusives are different there are 7 exclusives versus 4 for PS2, 26.3 mil exclusives were sold in the top ten, not out of 26mil XBOX that is 100% attach.

and that is only 2 mil short of what PS2 did for their exclusives. If any thing, third party helped PS2 more than XBOX and th ebig daddy, GTA is coming out same day for both of them.

Now I wish every PS3 fan would shut up about sony's exclusive becuase you don't buy sony's exclusive, (except Gran Tur) while XBOX does. Now this is just a snap shot but it is very telling. I just gave you some food for thought, you do the dishes

[MRMagoo123]

360 is finished its gonna just limp on and on hoping to make M$ enough money to make there next unreliable console which in turn will have the same probs as the last cos itll be rushed out cos M$ are scared of sony.