PS3 Lost Planet Load Times Are Lightning After 5GB Install

The upcoming Lost Planet from Capcom is joining the ranks of Devil May Cry 4 and Everybody's Golf, coming with a 5GB installation on the PS3 which can take up to twenty-minutes to complete. The good thing about this though is that the PS3 game has lightning fast load-times following the installation.

The 5GB install that Capcom put on Lost Planet: Extreme Condition has been receiving quite a bit of negative press. We have been fortunate enough though to have received a pre-release copy of Lost Planet from Capcom, and have to report that the 5GB install is well worth it.

[Vip3r]

Good to hear but I'd rather keep my 5GB thanks.

[eLiNeS]

Strange, I don't remember any long load times when I played it. I guess I will have to dust it off and see whats up.

[Bazookajoe_83]

If u played that game a few years ago u should tell capcom that someone has made that game before them, since it was released from capcom on 360 and pc 2007..

[Xeikon]

Load times on the 360 were a couple of seconds.

[pswi60]

i just played thru the first 10 minutes on my 360 because i couldn't remember either, and i saw 1 loading screen for barely a second...so unless there are worse loading times later on in the game i don't see what would be gained from an install.

i still stand by my original statement however; seems like thats the only way people can bash the ps3 is by complaining about 5gb of space on the standard hard drive.

[eLiNeS]

but then I would have to take it over to the Open Zone ------>

and I don't want to since I just got off a 4 day ban from this zone, lol

[Lifendz]

not a big price to pay for me but I know some people are thinking "that's a good portion of my HDD". If this becomes a trend I think a lot of people will be upgrading their HDD's.

[decapitator]

TO be honest, I don't even see what the big deal is about installing games on a console anyways.

[TheHater]

people don't have a problem with it. It just that when we are force to install it, that when they have a problem with it. Take UT3 for example, I didn't had a problem installing it on my ps3, but DMC4 I did. People don't like it when they are force to do something in order to play the game.

[rofldings]

I don't have a problem with it, but I'm pissed that Capcom is making 5gb installs for 20 min. Every other developer that requires an install (very few) have their games under 2gb and installs in under 5 min, but not Capcom. Most games don't even require an install, so wtf Capcom stop porting the PC version to the PS3.?

[TwissT]

Personnaly I don't care about the install, I care about the big chuck of space it takes up. I already have 22gb left in my ps3 and if every game for the ps3 had a 5gb install, I would either have to delete some of my stuff or upgrade my harddrive (which I do not have the money too).

[cloud360-13th_acount]

Meh, i dont really like FPS

They should try gettign FPS and rpg together. i will do as much as i can to make it fail

[Regret]

It's TPS. And tryout Deus Ex.

[jlytle1234]

oblivion or fallout 3

[Sez]

is this going to be the norm for ps3 onwers. to have to install 5 gigs just for a couple seconds faster load time. or is this just with capcom games so far

[heyheyhey]

yeah pretty much only Cap games

Heavenly Sword had an install too, but it only took like 3 mins (not sure about the size, i think it was like 500mb or something)

and if i remember correctly, Motorstorm or Resistance (don't remember which one) had like a 200mb install that took like 30 secs

i think that's it so far, but if Uncharted can have the best console graphics so far, require no install and have almost no load times then i really don't see why this has to be the norm on PS3 (unless there is a need to protect the BD drive)

[Xeikon]

Motorstorm has the worst loading times of any game this generation. Even the review build of Lost Oddessy had better loading times.

You might complain about mandatory installs but Motorstorm proves it is necessary, to counter the slow read speed of Blu-ray.

[Sez]

just wanted to know if i needed to buy a bigger HDD when i buy my ps3 and hdtv next month.

[heyheyhey]

@vega75

lol, you finally succumbed eh? after all that time saying "Unfarted" and crap like that

well i don't think you NEED to get a bigger HDD, unless you have tons of DivX and demos to store

there aren't that many installs to make a bigger HDD a necessity, it just depends on how much media you have to store, but sizeable SATA drives are pretty cheap nowadays so you might as well

oh yeah and Xeikon that was pretty dumb

if thats the case then how come Uncharted doesn't need an install and has minimal loading times

and how about the dozens of games on the PS3 that don't need any installation huh?

dont spread bullsh!t when you have no idea what your talking about

and BD has a faster read speed than DVD

[Sez]

the only thing i succumb to is being a gamer. most multi-plat game i wil buy for the 360. games like DMC4,SC4,and GTA4,ect the only game i find interesting is FF13 and versus and if they suck like 10,10.5,12 then i will be selling it soon after

[Genesis5]

I really don't have any problem finding something to do for 15 min.I like the faster load times and the less stress on my drive. So no worries here.Cheers!

[anh_duong]

did you know the most frequently failed part in a console (ignoring RROD - which is unique to the 360) is the disk drive laser??? the reason the 5gb game data is transferred onto the hard disk is because it is the most requested content. Add these two facts together and you get the word "longevity" and "little waiting in game".

this is exactly why i moved all my ps2 games onto the hd loader/hd advance system. there is no way in hell a laser drive can match the speed and reliability of a hard drive. playing ps2 games off the hard drive is awesome even if you have to wait 20 mins to install the game.

[Skerj]

San Andreas is like night and day off of HDLoader man.

[Wraith001]

If that was the case why did they not make the entry model the 80gig?

I bought the 40gig model and i had no idea there would be any games that needed to be installed, if i had, i would of got the 80gig model. I feel a little bit conned to be honest. I now either delete games, or buy a bigger HDD, neither of which i want to do.

[Skerj]

Well if you were going to purchase the 80gig if you knew beforehand that games had installs, what's really stopping you from upgrading the drive? You can get a pretty good sized hard drive for the price difference between the two, only thing you're missing are the added features that come with the 80gig.

[heyheyhey]

glad to see the installs actually doing something

i don't mind installing stuff as long as there is a big improvement in load times

[Scenarist]

i just hope the install and saved games are seperate from each other ..if so then yes I have a problem... other than that my pc monitor and my ps3 monitors are both side by side so i can just surf while i wait oe play 15 minutes of COD4 on the pc ....

either way i got something to do

[Skerj]

Yeah they are, the hard drive files are under the Game Data Utility subheading and the saved games are under the Saved Data Utility subheading.

[mintaro]

it's good that the loadtimes are quicker, but if this should become the norm, than it could turn out to be a problem, considering it takes up 5 gigs per game.
naturally i doubt that "all" games will take up 5 gigs, but if by some reason that they all do, it could pose as a problem to people who dont have a large hard drive, and end up limiting them on their content, and amount of games they can have

[GodsHand]

I don't see the problem, every PS3 has a HDD. Option of upgrading, I would understand if you bought your PS3 and you opted to not get the HDD.

But for the people who complain, are probably who complain on needing a memory card for older systems.

[Z501]

Really
don't
care.

[cloud360-7th_account]

testing

[Bazookajoe_83]

As long as it takes away loading time im all for it =)

[ThaToNeKiiDKaBaW]

Hmm, funny NONE of the SONY DIEFANS are in here... Welp, after installing a game that takes 5GB no wonder the PS3 harddrives are so big.. 360 doesn't need a big HDD..

[anh_duong]

maybe it's the other way round i.e. xbox360 can't do 5gb installs because microsoft wouldn't allow it since they have consoles that don't have hard disks. ps3 do 5gb install because it can, xbox 360 don't do 5gb installs because it can't. ask ANY developer (criterion, farcry, epic etc) whether they prefer to work with a hard disk or not and i am pretty sure you will know what the reply would be.

come on, wouldn't you want to use a hard disk for caching games and taking pressure of those lasers/drive motor?? i mean even the ORIGINAL xbox had a hard disk as STANDARD.

whether we like it or not, you only lie to yourself if you think don't think hard disk installs is the way the industry is going. this hard disk install has been part of the PC gaming scene since the time PCs first had proper hard disks.

one of the reasons why xbox 360 keeps scratching disc is the drive spins like a nutter just trying to get information. try moving your xbox when the drive is spinning and you will end up with an etch-a-sketch image on your dvd games. wouldn't it be nice to put all this info a a hard disk and prolong the life of your console???

[pswi60]

my origial xbox had a big hard drive in it, cause thats where all my games were stored =)

[Kleptic]

and it could be that Lost Planet sucks, and no PS3 owners even care.

[SlappyMcTaint]

That's what HD's are for, xbots. Why does every little PS3-related news item ALWAYS have a negative spin on it? You sad little people!!

[fenderputty]

save game data and, I can write other data over this install, then I don't realy care. I usually play a game to death and then put it down for a while. I wouldn't mind reinstalling the game data again, I just don't want to loose the progress that I have made.

[achira]

the two things are seperated. so there is no problem, you can delete the 5gb and the savegames stay on your hdd.

[fenderputty]

360 fans act like this is a bad thing. Had MS made their console with a standard HDD then they would be using them as well. As long as it aid in a smooth gameplay experience and doesn't affect my saves then it's all good.

[neriser]

will resident evil 5 have a 5gb install too?

[Jdoki]

Possibly / Probably / Definitely <---- delete as applicable

[novaIS350]

do what I did... go to new egg, and by yourself a 250gb 2.5" SATA hard drive for 89.99 (cheaper than xbox360's 20gb). You won't be complaining about 5gb installs ever. Oh and why didn't anyone complain when bethesda made PS3 owners install 4gb (oblivion)? The game practically had zero load times.. oh thats right, it installed it in the background thats why.

[anh_duong]

you can sell your 60gb harddrive too

[ScottEFresh]

When your done with the game you can delete the 5 GB...did all of you morons forget that or what?

[Jdoki]

Looks at how many games are in the PS3 library... Look at how many of those require a 5GB install... It's a rather small percentage!!

The only dev to do this is Capcom. So before people jump on the 'WTF, my hard drive is going to get filled', it's very few games that do this and only one developer so far.

Prior to these TWO Capcom games the highest install was Oblivion I think with 4GB. I've also seen a few games with 1 or 2GB installs. But on average installs are very small.

Even on a 60GB drive you could install 10 or 11 games of 5GB (allowing for the OS grabbing a chunk). Obviously assuming you have nothing else on there.

However, the important thing here is that the data can be deleted. Once I complete a game it goes in the cupboard, if I decide to play it again in a few months (or years) time I'll just install the data again... Big deal.

I really can't believe people are complaining about a 20minute wait that shows a tangible improvment (in most cases) when the game is loaded/loading.

[jmiscavish]

I shouldn't have to upgrade my 40gb HDD just to play capcom games. This means I'll have to start deleting and reinstalling files whenever I want to switch out games. That's two capcom games taking up 1/4 of my HDD (more considering the ps3 os takes up a big chunk as well).

Now, I do have a 250gb external HDD. I know I can transfer some things to and from it. Can I put these giant game installs on that? Demos?

How is it that I can play Uncharted (the most graphics-intensive game on the ps3) with ONE loading screen and NO install? What is capcom doing wrong?

[moujahed]

All you 360 fanboys, and or fanboys for that matter bashing the 5gig mandatory installs are pretty stupid. Especially if your a computer gamer... i mean wtf! It's not like you can't upgrade, and or your ps3 came with 20gigs like some consoles.

I guess suckin on that Microsoft d1ck all this time just makes you automatically act like one.

[anh_duong]

20gig but only 13gig free

[Kleptic]

look at the big picture dude...

almost every bit of news coming in is entirely related to either the PS3 outselling the 360 somewhere...or Blu Ray destroying HD DVD...there hasn't been a single bit of really bad news for the PS3 in 2008, and everything is looking better and better...best game lineup...winning a major format war...starting to hint at what sales will look like in coming months...outselling the 360 worldwide for over 10 weeks, and finally outselling the 360 where its hooks are the biggest...

...if you were a rabid 360 fanboy, what would you have to say?...Many of the real 'boys haven't even shown up yet, due to lack of anything useful to bash...but some will stick around, making useless comments occasionally...but eventually, they will be so few and far between it won't really matter...

[GETPWNED]

"PS3 Lost Planet Load Times Are Lightning After 5GB Install"

Oh, really? You know what else has lighting fast load times after a 5 gig install and 20 minutes? PC games. OUCH.

[heyheyhey]

and your point is..........

[Kleptic]

I don't get it...or was that the point?

[phony force slayer]

was insulting xbox for being like a pc console. wene the ps3 is acting like it. idiots

[Foliage]

Hypocrites. The majority of you who feel so outraged over this install, are the same that support digital downloads. Get over yourselves.

[TheMART]

But it still takes 5GB of your HDD. If you bought a 40GB PS3 and you got Lost Planet, DMC4 and that Golf game that's 15GB gone already.

Games will use it more and more because of the slow BluRay reading. So what the future holds... Upgrading of the HDD is forced that way and a PS3 doesn't cost you 400 Euro/Dollar, but add the price of a 250 or 320GB drive with it for sure.

And fans now say: it is lightning fast. Yeah nice. Installations of 22 min. per game sounds like PC gaming, not console gaming.

Plus: a nice way to cover up Sony's flaw in putting in a too slow drive that's not optimal for playing games, but pushing it's video format.

[Jdoki]

But not all games use it. Look at the 'big' titles which have less of an install... Ratchet, Uncharted, Burnout all use next to nothing. So the argument that slow Blu-Ray drives are to blame is rubbish.

[ravinash]

None of the other Devs are having problems with the speed of the BlueRay drive except Capcom.
Games like uncharted and heavenly sword had far heavier graphics and sound and these didn't need a large install.

[fenderputty]

as long as it doesn't affect my save data, then I don't really mind writing over intial the 5G install data. I usually play a game and put it down for a while. Re-loading the data isn't all that big of a concern for me. Not all games use this anyway. You act as if I'm going to need a new HD in a matter of weeks.

[joeynox]

id like to see a comparision with the 2 versions. Stating its faster or slower means nothing without proof. i can do that too. I had anal sex with jessica biel last night. See I can do it :)

[Wolfgang187]

horray! faster load times for a game whose gameplay is sluggish as hell.

[Mr Tretton]

His point is, he's a slobbering baboon like usual.

You know where you can play 360 'exclusives?'

On PC! Ow Ow OUCH!

He has a great name, he just keeps getting himself PWND. AHAHAHAHAAAA!

[chaosatom333]

this is a good thing. i don't know why people are putting a bad spin to it like 'oh no i have to buy a hard drive' or 'i have to wait 20 min for the install which is going to ruin the game more than in-game loading'. i mean sure the difference between loading isn't that 'big' but it's going to matter for those long rpgs or even big games. having a choice is always good, so i am hoping that capcom will learn.

[Maldread]

But i think the article dosn`t specify very well what it means by lightning quick. Lightning quick compared to the 360 version or compared to the scenario if you don`t do the install ?

It`s ok to have the option to do such installs, if they can improve on the 360 version`s download time, but if they don`t do so, i don`t see the point of it. This seems to be a Capcom issue mainly, so i hope they get Sony to help them out on this one.

I just hope 2008 dosn`t become the install issue year, as 2007 was the port issue year (even though the two issue are much of the same thing really) ;)

[undacovabrothe]

this should not become a trend if 1 studio can manage around loading times w.o installs then the other should also. As long as Capcom are working behind the scenes to take out installs altogether then I am fine with it 5gigs isnt much on my 60gig ill just have to delete like 6 demos.

[timmyp53]

the load times will be faster if you wait and use up those gigs.

[moujahed]

Every true gamer knows that in the end, PC rules over consoles. No console last forever, the best one is slowly dying out (PS2) after about 10yrs, PC's were in gaming since 2d and produce some of the best graphics to this date.

So Sonys true competition is not Xbox360, the Nintendo Wii, or some other console that will soon come out. Sony's true competition in gaming are PC's. So they try and incorporate PC aspects into their system.

If you have Linux on your PS3 you pretty much already have a PC. Enjoy.

[Kleptic]

well...from a money making standpoint...PC gaming is the least of their concern...PC gaming has been on the decline for years...but it offered developers ways to make some of the most impressive games of all time...so in that sense, I agree...having a standard HDD is a direct mimic of what PC's offer...

360 kids don't like that though...their machine is for gaming only...and obviously a gaming machine should have zero in common with a PC...unless its in terms of development tools...er, wait...it makes more sense when they say it; I'm sure...

[shysun]

if it cuts load times Im all in. I have a 60 gig PS3 and im going to upgrade soon! I want a BEAST of an hdd 200 or better!

[Asurastrike]

I don't care how fast the load times are. I refuse to give up 5GB of my HDD for a mediocre game that came out a year ago.

Uncharted manages to have 0 load times, great graphics, and no install. Is Capcom just not as good a dev as naughty dog?

[jmiscavish]

Capcom must just suck. There are several games with much better graphics with little to know installs. Let alone 20 minute installs. There's no "spin" on this, it's just fact that some people don't want to have to upgrade their HDDs just to play capcom games.

[Lanontscuz]

i DLed the demo played it for one session then i turned it off and deleted the game....soo the game is not for me...sooo theres my 5 gig saved lmao....damn u capcom i even bought Devil may Cry 4 and i still play COD4 more GGRRRR....