GameSpot To Change Their Lost Odyssey Review Score?

As reported from GameSpot editor it is possible they will change Lost Odyssey review score after re-review because there is no big load times in retail version of the game as explained by Microsoft and gamers who has already purchased the game. GameSpot explains that they care for their reputation and want readers to receive review text without errors.

[power of Green]

So this game got hammered because of ignorance? and FF fan haters even taking this issue to a new level of being hammered?.

[iMad]

Another part of the story is what main gaming sites have debug version of 360 which seems causes this sort of issues.

[radzy]

they should call it "WORSE GENERATION" instead of "next generation"
it takes sometimes more that a minute to load a fighting scene, and then about 15 seconds to get back to non-fighting gameplay.
and if you have a benQ drive in your 360 , then goodluck as it is the slowest of all drives.

[v1c1ous]

you're such a liar :P

[mariusmal]

i think that they do good with their decision to change it, but microsoft or the devs are to blame, they should have send a final version for review

[HowarthsNJ]

It should not be a factor.

Is there a massive case of AADD among the gaming community?

[PS360WII]

Umm lol at all the PlayStation only people who are making fun of a game for loading screens. Need you be reminded about how often you where staring at a loading screen for the PS1? Perhaps you forgot about all the waiting you did with the PS2? Oh and don't forget the biggest offender to horrible loading the PSP!

Oh wow that's right with discs you have loading!

edit: and to the guy above me the only ones who are copying the FF is Square Enix seeing the man who created FF is the head of Mistwalker now.

[Julie]

It is scary to comment in here but...

You are comparing Xbox360 loading times with the Ps1???? you are weird...

And how can you copy something that belongs to you, that you have the rights, that you own??

I like Lost Oddysey but...better i say no more...like i said this place is scary and weird

[PS360WII]

I'm not compairing I'm reminding. All Playstation only people are forgetting their roots. While yes Square Enix owns the rights but they didn't make it.

[kewlkat007]

know who is behind Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon, excuse them.

Nobuo Uematsu + Hironobu Sakaguchi are some of the biggest names behind the Final Fantasy series..

It's not like the guys do not know the RPG formula..

[MikeGdaGod]

i know you're just "reminding" us but that still makes little sense. how can you compare loading times with the PS1, PS2, or PSP with the 360.

c'mon this is suppose to be a NEXT-GEN system. you can't make people feel better by saying the PS1 had long loading times too.

i usually agree with you but you're a bit off here i think, bad example.

[PS360WII]

yeah could be a poor excuse. I'm never good at these PS3/360 debates

[PS360WII]

Oh sweet a disagree I guess I am a good PS3/360 debater and it was a prime example I used. Thank you phantom disagree-er

[Sarick]

Why?

If i'm playing an RPG with random encounters a long wait to start the fight will make the game piss me off.

If it takes 10+ seconds every encounter just to start and 10+ after it ends thats not enjoyable.

They've got every right to lower a games score over load times just as much as they did when they had a drop in frame rates on orange box on the PS3.

MS continues to rush things out in unfinished or untested states. If they ship a crap product to reviewers they deserve a crap review.

Unfortunately, when they see the reviews it's totally wrong to call up the reviewer and blackball them into re-reviewing their product because it was unfinished and got a low score. It's totally wrong to send reviewers unfinished products and expect them to change their reviews.

Send them a finshed product first and stop making excuses because reviews did their jobs and noted serious flaws in the unfinished product.

[anh_duong]

there are people here who just can't help disagreeing...
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the fact i will get a few disagrees for saying this just proves my point.

[incogneato]

My geuss is Microsoft paid them off. They've given worse reviews to decent games and never changed it.

[Chris_GTR1]

ohh yeaaa.! thank you MS! im picking it up tommorow

[iMad]

There is very positive user feedback about the game.
Shame MS you send bad DVD copies to reviewers. Got lower scores.

[actas123]

@iMAD;
Are u serious man! Why would Microsoft send bad DVDs to reviewrs? usually publishers send their best to reviewers in order to get a higher score.. Also, if that is correct it actually proves that Microsoft sends different copies to reviewers, I mean different than the ones they ACTUALLY sell.. Isn't that cheating?
Its possible that Microsoft did send the reviewers at gamespot a bad DVD because of only one thing, they changed the code a little in order to make the game look a little better but that negatively affected the load times.

[socomnick]

Actas they reviewed the Japanese version that one had framerate and loading issues. The American Retail version is fixed no framerate issues loading screens have never been more than 5 seconds for me and awesome graphics. Lost oddysey is awesome get it the story is a bit too emotional though for my taste but I am surprised by how adult it is Great rpg guys.

[original seed]

At first i was hyped for this game, Then all the reviews came up and loading issues and i got bummed. Now Im hooked. Im still on disc one but i've been playing it non-stop. I love it. Oh and yeah, this is no Kiddie RPG. Its a tough one. The first big boss fight was tough.

[kewlkat007]

Since my party was weak with physical Attacks, using Elements was the only way. Haha that's just the first boss...long way to go.

[wageslave]

I was really happy MS & Mistwalker released the free DLC for Blue Dragon. The DLC made the game harder. IT really forced the player to play with the deep tactics the gameplay offered.

I prefered the game the 2nd time through... the first time was great. The 2nd play was the best JRPG I've ever played.

[barom]

lmao it's not their fault that MS sent them a non-final copy as a REVIEW-copy.

It's not ignorance fool.

[PumPum]

GS has any credibility left.

[Iamback]

money money money, must be funny in gamespot world

[iMad]

very poetry

[Dpa]

Money, money, money, always sunny in gamespots world.

Abba ftw.

[SlappyMcTaint]

Like GaySpot has any credibility left. Fck 'em.

[chasegamez]

this Bull sh!t
i total lost any respect 4 gamespot.
i see MicroBucks are back at work

[leon76]

You haven't allready knew that????...that the review scores of gamespot were and are biased?????....how justify the review scores of some x360 games comparing with the PS3 games????? like Iamback said, money!!!!!

[v1c1ous]

i have the retail version of LO.

load times ARE shorter than the review versions. :/

[BloodySinner]

After that Kane & Lynch/Gurstmann incident, it will be years (I'm not exaggerating either) before I can ever trust GameSpot.

EDIT: Random disagrees for the win! =)

[Guwapo77]

I agree with you bro. That review was absolutely bogus. After playing the Demo on PSN...I was like WTF, ain't no way it could have possibly scored that well.

[r3xmund1]

TBYH all this flip floppin' of reviews and there lack of transparency, I'd rather ask a hobo about the state of the Japanese Yen than i would consider Gamespots opinion on a game.

Or IGN really cos Lair is cool.

Anyhoos

Is Lost Odessey good? and what game is it like?!?!?

[Bombomb]

FFX..if you've played it.

[Julie]

Then it have a sphere grid lvl system?, blitzball?, Aeons?, chocobos?, moogles?, tonberryes? and many other FFX stuff that i forgot? is Yunnie there? Tidus? wow :O

To say the truth i will get this game, and i have a PS3 and a PS2 too , all this FF comparison is not good, Lost Oddysey is an RPG a good one and have his OWN elements, FF is awesome and have his OWN elements, both are different RPGs, they are not the same game.

[Keowrath]

Bombomb calm down. r3xmund1 asked what game it was like and you simply said FFX. You gave no explaination at all why just that it was like 10. When ASKED if it had all that 10 had in it you start calling her (Yes it would appear Julie is actually a she!) retarded.

A simple explaination would have worked wonders and you wouldn't have needed to insult anybody.

So back on topic, how long are the load times between battles, I know back on PS1 the load times really hurt FF5, I've been looking forward to Lost Odyssey since I saw the early images and was disappointed to hear the bad side. I'm hearing it has a great story (which is kinda important with an RPG =) ) can anyone who has it give me an example on the loading? Usually load times aren't a problem for me (Hell I'll even play Midnight club on PSP!) but the loads in FF5 on PS1 absolutely killed the game for me =(

[v1c1ous]

are no different than ff8-10.

ie usual 10-15 second fair. but dont think its "black screen for 15 seconds"

its like 2-3 seconds the random battle animation, 3-5 the camera swoonin around the characters, last 2-3 finally settling in your character and then u can choose

its the same as the ps2 rpgs.

[Keowrath]

Thankyou V1c1ous, Sounds awesome then and just my sort of game. Thanks for the heads up mate.

[Julie]

i will get it, seems that it have a really good history line, the characters are detailed, some are cute =)

I am a she :O

And i do like games no matter on wich console they are, if are good games.Btw i see nice people here weeeeeeee!!!!! :)

[ozhuerta]

"its the same as the ps2 rpgs."
ps2? PS2?! The one released in oct, 2000?
Indeed, next gen load times for LO...

[Guwapo77]

OH how I wish I could play this game. I love JRPGs. The last system I would have ever thought it would be on was the Xbox 360.

Not to flame. But is this game a timed release or is it a "true" exclusive? I need my Jrpg fix 4rls.

[v1c1ous]

who has a 3 game agreement w/ 360.

this is 2nd game.

[Guwapo77]

Aww man. I can only hope they don't get bought out by MS. Thanks for the info. +1 4u.

[v1c1ous]

microsoft is basically footing the bill for all expenses for the 3 games. microsoft is the reason mistwalker exists

so in a way, they are microsoft property. at least until the 3 game deal is off.

[Guwapo77]

Understood. You guys are very lucky, don't let this one slip away. Once again, thanks for the info dude. /salute

*edit* too much WoW

[gogators]

thankful Amazon was kind enough to delay shipping. I couple friends seem to be enjoying it so far.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Thats not fair!! Its out on the 29th Feb here in the UK!!

[Lucreto]

I don't think they will re-review it as they will recieve a lot of noice from PS3 fans for Ratchet and from there people will want more games re-reviewed.

[wageslave]

Except, their opinion of R&C was based on the actual shipping code.

Whereas, this review was given a lower score because they didnt know they were playing pre-release code. And, some of the faults they held down the score-for were not present in the final shipping version.

The two situations are very different situations.

[Shioka]

Such a mistake...i knew it would not be that bad.

[SMK056]

I think that MS give to Game$pot some money to Re-review Lost Odyssey & to give it good review

[wageslave]

Remember, it was Sony Games who were caught trying to buy reviews. We've had stories here on N4G about it.

Remember, it was Sony Films who were caught writing their own reviews and using them to promote their films.
Sony admits it in 2001: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/...
and were sued for it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/...

*NO ONE* has ever accused MS of doing what Sony has been caught doing twice. So, take your made-up FUD and stuff it.

They are re-reviewing the game because they played pre-release code and didnt know it... so, giving the game fault for problems that didnt exist in the shipped game is unfair, they know it. It would be dishonest to not correct their error.

So, dont throw stones when you live in a glass house.

[SMK056]

But why MS have to do the same Mistake that sony did ?

[Frances-the-Mute]

yeah, will they re-review lair when of if they get the update? i think not

[TheIneffableBob]

The retail copy differs from the review copy in the case of Lost Odyssey.

In the case of Lair, however, the retail copy was the same as the review copy. GameSpot doesn't do re-reviews for patches, and no reviewer should.

[Chubear]

^^
You're talking out your rare cause you have no clue what copy of Lair gs and other reveiwers got.

It's likely they also didn't get retail version cause editorial reviewers hardly ever get retail versions unless they actually go out and buy it.

The OP was right. Should Lair get analog update on the retail version, will they re-review it too, seeing as that was the main reason they slammed it? - HELL NO!

Gamespot is utter crud. The only people who actually think they're in anyway credible are the 360 fanbase.

I mean changin a review cause of load times? Really? Load times make that much of a siginificance for a re-review? So, they couldn't just update it in write up and on vid? Yeah right.

[iMad]

"On discovering that the load times have been shortened in the final release, we have decided to change the score to reflect this. The new score is 7.4"

[replikka]

this saturday. i gots money to burn lol. i have all the popular games for the 360. so when i get it ill give u guys my feed back. ive been playing games for over 15 yeats now. im not in my 30s, im in my very early 20s. altho ill be playing games until i get arthritis in my thumbs. and @ SMK056 dont bash a game unless u have played the damn thing. go rent it or something. FRIKKIN RETARD

[Guwapo77]

LoL That is my plan as well. But I've been gaming longer than you've been alive. *winks*

<--- 31 next month.

I might need to invest in some Depends soon.

[kewlkat007]

I said this yesteray and I'm 7 Hrs into the game (Sea of Baus - Level 16) and that 30 secs for a battle to load was just ridiculous.

So how many reviewers did not get the Final Copy of the game before review?

I remember when one of sony's games (Forgot Which one) was subject to the same criticism when the reviewer got an early copy of the game, but of course everyone was upset with the reviewer, reviewing and unfinished game and not Sony.(mariusmal #1.4)

So what this has to do with MS? I mean they could have waited for the real thing, why review something that might not be polished or Finalized and have that your last say?

Again cutting into the sales of a game with incorrect representation of the final product.

Anyhow if you like jRPG's you'll get this game. If not then wait for your final fantasy.

[iMad]

My teenage son and I are loving it and he hated JRPGs before this one! LOL.

We are about 4 hours in each and watching him play it an equal amount of time did not bother me or bore me at all. We LOVE Jansen. He's a great character. It's been a while since I actually laughed out loud at game dialogue or teared up reading a story. What a great game.

The visuals are simply a masterpiece... plain and simple. We talked hours about how incredible the Japanese artists are in making this game and how it compares to American creators. Example: When you board the train and it leaves the station... they did like 5 to 6 shots of the freakin train leaving and not just "shots" but grande shots of the city and such. If this were made in America they would have rushed it and there might and I mean MIGHT have been two shots of the train leaving but using the same game engine shots. This game creates complete CG shots for mere seconds of screen time. AMAZING! Not to mention the game transitions from a cinematic to the game play engine almost seemlessly. I've never in my 33yrs seen a game do it so well. Most of the time you are watching a incredible cinematic only to be dropped into the game's crap engine graphics to play. I was shocked by how well the opening battle looked once the ingame graphics kicked in. I cept waiting for the detail to drop a few knotches... but it didn't. I even watched all the online videos I could find to see if I wanted to buy this game and even they do not prepare you for how incredible this game looks.

What an amazing game. I would suggest anyone buy it. The reviewers must be out of their minds. It's a Masterpiece.

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I'm almost 3 hours in (played straight), and I LOVE this game. I can't decide whether I should sleep or keep playing.

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The game is Amazing! But why so many sad stories! every time i read a dream i get teary eyed, I havent read one dream that has a happy ending yet, after a thousand years im sure he had to have atleast one happy one.

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the only reason this game is not getting 9's across the board is because it isnt called "Final Fantasy"

other than that this game is kickass..im not usually a person to play a lot of Rpgs but the old school style from like FFX really appeals to me and this game brings back good memories.

btw the Dream sequences are some the most beutifully written stories that ive read in a while

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look for the game forums at IGN or gamespot. they are full of "WOW" from gamers. So, gamespy and "so so" reviewers doing their jobs not good. Gametrailers for the true!

[Bombomb]

you can tell by the disagrees by the fanboy chumps...

[wageslave]

"the only reason this game is not getting 9's across the board is because it isnt called "Final Fantasy"

Bears repeating. Nar a truer word has ever been spoken on this Forum.

[DiabloRising]

The only reason this game is not getting 9's across the board is because it isnt called "Final Fantasy"

Many people say the same thing about any FPS not named Halo you realize? Maybe it's not getting 9's across the board because it doesn't actually deserve them? I know that LO is a highly hyped and anticipated title, but it still has its flaws, and the reviews should reflect that. I'm glad you are enjoying it though... I'm currently still elbow deep in Rogue Galaxy, and await White Knight Story more than FFXIII.

Besides, reviews are OPINIONS. If I listened to Gamespot, or any review as fact for that matter, I wouldn't have played some amazing games that I personally enjoyed (Hi Ratchet). If their review doesn't reflect the final product, that's one thing, but is the loading time alone a substantial enough reason to rescore it? Guess they'll have to evaluate where said score came from first.

People really need to use reviews as a way to inform and not to JUDGE, because like it or not reviews can and will be biased for whatever reason.

[fenderputty]

can't believe anyone would disagree with you.

[ngg12345]

DQ8, Dark Cloud 2, Suidoken 3, persona 3, and many other games ahve been reviewed significantly higher. Because it isn't "ff" is such a weak excuse.

Final Fantasy series is extremely overrated, and aren't on par with most jrpg's. But it is extremely overrated because of its name. But that isn't why other games don't score as well. Especially Lost Odyssey, which would get better reviews because it is hyped.

Then again, MGS series, FF series, GTA series, and halo series gets this treatment.

[chrno6]

I am playing dark cloud 2 right now, and it's definitely a very unique and fun rpg. I am enjoying this more than ff honestly.

[RecSpec]

Whatever you do! You never cross that line. If you made a mistake, you made a mistake, you never change the score. That is just opening Pandora's Box. You cannot change a score once it is put in.

[Jack Bauer]

it's not their fault... if they change the review then it deserves it... about 2 and a half hours in myself ( i hope to get some time in tomorrow) and loving every minute of it!

[Bill Gates]

Well BABOONS, I guess you little monkeys will just have to wait until your next RPG,...just to see it FLOP. Again!.....AHAHHAHAHHA

Lost "O" gets exactly that, a HUGE ZERO. crazy load times, and the WORST packaging I've EVER seen for any game.....AAHAHHAHAAHHAHA

Thank you Sony for including Blu-ray, and a HDD with EVERY console, and making our next gen gaming experience so much BATTER than the one the BABOONS are having....AHHHAHAHHAAHHHA

[wil4hire]

Multiple Discs.. 2008...

[Darth Gamer]

If the game is good and I'm enjoying it, (which I am by the way) I don't care if I have to change discs 100 times. Even if it's 2023. People, get a life and stop complaining.

[ceedubya9]

I'm really looking forward to playing LO. I like to play my old fashioned JRPGs. I liked playing Blue Dragon, and I know I'll love this Mistwalker game too. Keep em' coming!

[dale1]

the game,s b*llocks flop big time in japan

[abcd]

Lost Odyssey is so good.
I love this game.

[meepmoopmeep]

nice to see the retail version doesn't have an issue with load times. will definitely pick this one up, eventually.

[sonyfanonly]

it still aint no final fantasy

[iMad]

sonyfanboys will always say that. Buy XBOX 360 too and just play games.

[SlappyMcTaint]

Buy a 360 and have it RROD over and over. No thanks. I'll save my $$ for electronics that ACTUALLY WORK.

[DarkSniper]

After doing a second review of Lost Odyssey, Gamespot will probably give it a lower score than initialized. There's so much deficiencies with this game and it's mainly tied to it's garbage hardware titled XBOX 360.

If Gamespot does indeed lower the score, it will have regained some credibility in Dark Sniper's eyes. He would be pleasantly surprised if this is commenced. Even Gamespot has noticed the declining and waning support of XBOX 360 in favor of the vastly superior PLAYSTATION® 3.

$niper

[Bladestar]

funny... I was asking myself the same question... so, I guess this explains it. One can tell that this site is no longer reliable to get gamer's input about the games... we have a bunch of xbox 360 haters... they're currently double the number of real gamers in this site.. you can tell by the dissagree that some people get.

The other thing that is sad is that many people reviewed this game only based on the 1st 2 bosses we are very hard.. some people never beat those beforing submitting their review... what happened to beating the game before reviewing the game? ahhh those were the good old days.

[Chubear]

Just Wow.

[BrianC6234]

This is really lame. Just what Gamesplot needs. Why would you drop a review score down for slow load times anyway? If you review a pre-release version of the game at least get a real copy and verify the problem. Nobody will believe Gamesplot over this. Even if it's true. They can't be trusted when it comes to their reviews.

[DJ]

Don't send unpolished product to reviewers.

[Pain]

M$ support site = No Thanks.

[laslos]

I have been saying for a while that the reviews are not accurate. THis is a great game and the load times are no longer then any other game. My only gripe with the game is the leveling/grinding system. You basically get one point per enemy so even if you are fighting tough as nails enemys, you still only get 1 sp per enemy. The game also levels up with you for example... The very first boss (which kicked my butt about 5 times in a row )had 1600 HP so i decided to level everyone up once, when i went back the boss had 1680 hp and was hitting just a wee bit harder. I am not a fan of the game leveling up with you, i like grinding to overcome a hard boss. By the way, the boss gave 10 sp instead of 1 so that was good.

[Silver360]

first boss was tough, but if you use Jansen and Flare you take out 200 hp every attack.

[Emperor Kutaragi]

WIth my perfectstation3 my empire dos'nt have to thow out $ to get good reviews and exclusive games like microsh*t.My playstation brand now handed over to the great all powereful king kaz,has been providing great gaming for true gamers over the last decade.Who here has never played any of these GREAT franchises.... rachet and clank,resistance,killzone,sly cooper,god of war,metal gear solid,jak and dexter or twisted metal.All these franchises are only here because of the genius that is THE PERFECTSTATION nuff said.

[thekingofMA]

what-you just see other people pretending to be sony execs so you decide to as well and then just use things that sony fangirls have been doing for years? what a loser-also, you're not nearly as funny as "Kaz Hirai" (even though he is a major ass) and JTLYK, it's "nuf' ced"

[davez82]

wow, gamespot is owned by microsoft, and ms needs to sell copy's of lost oddyssey , no suprise this happened

[BardockS30Z]

seriously

[Petraeus]

I've not exceeded 10 seconds on a loadtime and I'm almost through with disc #1(broke 20 hours on it). Most Loads take 1-5 seconds. FMVs can push it towards 10 seconds if it's a long one.

[Mandangoof]

Sakaguchi needs to be punished for having no talent.

Bioshock on the other hand, f***ing change that you @$$es! 9.5 sounds right, not 9.

Also Super Mario Galaxy = 8.0

[Petraeus]

You PS3 kiddies need to get out more... seriously.

The game is fine..LEARN TO PLAY (on more than one console...ask mom for more allowance if you have to).

[BrianC6234]

Is it one game? I think I heard you get four DVDs in the case. So it's four games? That's a great deal if it's only $59.99. Wow, you Xbots get everything.

/sarcasm off

[Spike47]

is not an AAA title period.

I played it at my freind's house and its like an epic adventure. Its loads of fun, the loading times are okay nothing to cry about. But I understand why this game is not on par with uncharted or bioshock or mass effect. something just does'nt seeem right, or maybe it seems repititive.

If your a 360 owner go buy the game, it's definetly worth your money.

However, comparing lost odyssey to final fantasy is just plain stupid and ignorant.

[chrno6]

well, in part you are correct. Lost Odyssey is not as good as final fantasy, but final fantasy is not as good as a lot of jrpgs on the ps2. For instance, I consider the suikoden series better.

[Trick Nolte]

1 bubble? LOL!!!

[360Crusader]

No way man. I've been playing rpg's for years. And comparing this game with Final Fantasy is fair. This game is better it's like the old school Final Fantasy like 7,8, and 9. The best ones PERIOD! Heck just look at who made it. This game's got Final Fantasy written all over it.

[chrno6]

ha I don't see them changing Rachet and Clank review score...

[bootsielon]

"Remember, it was Sony Games who were caught trying to buy reviews. We've had stories here on N4G about it. "

Microsoft wasn't caught because they paid too much for Gears of War and Halo 3 reviews. But it's awesome to criticize Sony when you have Microsoft so far up your ass and throat. "Sony Games", evidently you don't know anything about Sony's game division if you really think they're called "Sony Games", wageslave.

[poopface1]

I still think/know halo 3 and gears are better thatn any games currently on ps3. who cares about some reviews. ohh you do. go cry in the fanboy zone.

[Trick Nolte]

FTW!!! What does this have to do with this topic? nodda damn thing! I just love the Gears Franchise. :)

[Komrad]

they should be reviewing and scoring the version that we are all going to be playing.

[poopface1]

Reviewing games that arnt out yet seems like a good way to hurt sales and prevent many people from buying a game that they might otherwise enjoy (or hate). I dont think most people need a review to tell them what kinda game they like, a 10 for me may be a 5 for you. I say leave it up to the people to decide for themselvs if they wann buy a game on launch day and put up the review then for those who wanna read it(im sure they can still get the game early). Most importantly they should make sure the game is the same version that all us will be playing too. All the changed reviews latley seem pretty irresponsible, even for a bunch of people who review video games for a living.

[bizi6498]

woahahahahaha!

[INehalemEXI]

I will get this game when I can, might pick it up used in a couple months. Im kinda broke right now or I would gladly grab me a copy.

[poopface1]

but you fanboys just cant stop thinking about microsft. Its about reviewers, who are already looking bad, reviewing unfinished games just so they can get their reviews up early and make money off us visiting their site. If this happened to sony you all would shat a brick. Stop fighting each other and blame the unresponsible people who cant even do their awsome job right(playing games and writing unbiased opinion). How hard is it to get a finished copy of a game to review when you work for a huge review site, apparently pretty hard.

[360Crusader]

Yeah the load times are fine in this game. And btw this game is awesome and it's the best rpg I've played in years. And alot of people that played this game are agreeing on that too.

[ScottEFresh]

Yup...F*ck Lamespot...there reviews don't mean sheet anymore!

[PEST]

I buy 3 games a month regardless of reviews. Yall Sony boys wish u had 3 games to buy. We got Psychonauts on 360 and PS3 aint got it.

[Superiorrior]

Psychonauts? Are you f*cking joking? Who gives a sh!t about Psychonauts.

[kg7310]

My Disc 3 is cursed!! I left it at the case and when i came home from school it wasn't there :| Now I can't find it :( I think my Cha-Cha stole it >:(

[OldSchoolGamer]

I'm not too far into it, simply 60 hour work weeks have sucked my gameplay time down to almost nil during the week...but anyway the honest review for what I have had the pleasure to experience through disc 1:

The loadtimes, wow the biggest detractor for every professional review, are almost non-existent. Cutscenes load after 1-3 seconds, and battles start about 3-5 seconds, and its not a black load screen or anything its a rotating camera with a quick one liner from a random character in your party. Honestly I have not seen a single time where I have noticed ever waiting at all for the game to continue, for example can't even get a sip from my beer in between game to cutscene. 9.0

The graphics are very great. The attention to detail is amazing, backgrounds and scenes are very well done. The only draw back is the characters, while they are sharp and clean, they could have used more love, while they do still look good. Gears and Mass Effect have kind of ruined very good efforts for me so I guess I expect more. Backgrounds and cutscenes 10, characters 7.
8.5 overall.

Controls: In a turn based game controls don't really have a huge effect unless they are bad, but they are tight. The only problem I found was interacting with some probe points for treasure and rest spots requiring you to stand in spots. 9.0

Sounds: Class jrpg combat music nothing groundbreaking more of a homage to his earlier works, nothing really repeats throughout the game. Most impressive is the way music is used to impart emotion in the dream sequences. 9.5

Story: While not delivered in an innovative next-gen way (I'm referring to dream sequences/memories) they are deep and meaning-ful and help fill out the story and give it depth. While, different countries are generically named, your main care will always be for your characters. Characters each have great personality and have great full backgrounds and stories and you do end up caring for them. 9.5

Overall about a 9.3 definitely worth picking up, but not without some occasional flaws. Smooth presentation and great effort, you won't go wrong sinking 70 hours in this epic.

[mjcrow33]

Was the exclusive content worth the pre order?

[galmi]

I guess what we all can do is speculate n all that, fact only come from playing the game, so pple shud just shut up

[Suki03]

Lost Odyssey isn't as bad as some reviews have put it. The story is pretty good, gameplay is ok. It just didn't bring anything new to the tables, and truthfully it could have been a lot better if they didn't use unreal engine 3. Why on earth would you use UE3 for a detailed oriented RPG.