TGS 06 PS3 Crossbar Menu Demo

Take a look at the full preview of the PS3 interface shown at TGS.

[Solzbury]

That is the most depressing interface i have ever seen. when i turn on my 360 i am greeted by pretty colors, news, events, my friends list. As opposed to this black dashboard that makes me wanna puke. Sony is losing this console war and i guarantee they won't be in the next one.

[dbug360]

I guess you missed the part where he said “what we are showing you here is NOT complete, this is NOT the final image that consumer will be getting” but than again I didn’t expect you to pick that up....you did buy a xbox after all

[Lionel Hutz]

"That is the most depressing interface i have ever seen."

Then obviously you have not seen the PSP's interface since they are basically the same thing :)

I voted cool not because I liked what I saw (even though I did like some parts), but because it's good information on the system.

Onto the video. Although the interface is not as colorful as many people would like, I like how it is very simple and easy to navigate like on the PSP.

I also noticed that SCART was an output option on the PS3, and I heard that it might support SCART but I had only seen that in one old image file comparing the PS3 SKUs.

What I did not like was the picture option of having them "scatter on a piece of paper." Granted, all I would have to do is not use that option, but I think they could have replaced that idea with a better one. I think they just tried to make digital pictures too "real," like making them out to be actual printed photographs.

Aside from that, this is also final proof, as if we really needed any, to those that say the PS3 cannot really support HDMI 1.3. At the NBA 1080p game demo at the end, the TV in the upper left corner confirms 1080p over HDMI 1.3.

[Stone Cold SA]

That's such a fanboy statement, this looks a lot like the PS3 interface and if i'm not mistaken you can add your own background for the PSP, so i'm sure the PS3 will be the same; and i'm not interested in hearing how the Xbox interface is better to you or whatever, the bottom line is if it has all the options laid out methodical then it's all that is needed!

[Arkham]

I love the sharp, minimalist look. I find it more professional than the Exploding (x)Box of Crayons.

[xrobbanx]

It will be hard to have all the information needed at once on screen.

Just to copy the psp interface is a misstake i think because PS3 will have more functions that will be hard to visualize on this interface

I wonder how they will solve that

[Arkham]

Oops, meant "Disagree'. I think it was handled well in what we saw in the demo. I don't think it's a valid concern.

[Ravenator529]

A horrible online interface!

If only some of you Sony fanbots could see how good "Live" is, you would totally agree with me.

I am not trying to start a flame war. This just looks flat out horrible in comparison.

I know they can't flat out copy the "Live" interface but they could at least make something similar.

[Lionel Hutz]

If they did make something similar, then people would just bash them for copying, even it if were not IDENENTICAL and just similar in appearance.

This is a topic on where I am not trying to prove that Sony is right here as this whole topic is basically on personal preference. I like the simplicity, you (and many I may add) do not like the looks. To me that's something I can do without as my game experience is not really enhanced by something that is not in-game. As long as the games are good and I can play online (no matter how bad the setup appearance to that online room is) I feel pretty good.

[Arkham]

Erm, well, then the MS/Nintendo fanatics would return "COPYERS! SONY COPYS!11".

[Boink]

not really impressive, I like the multiple windows with the browser, but again, If I want to browse I will use my pc.

If this is a copy of the psp interface I can see why people are complaining...looked quite annoying.

although I bet they sunk a bunch of effort into making the blue streak thingy that was in the background.

@debug...if this is not close to the final product, I am wondering how much more it will change considering they are launching in a little more than a month.

with what they expect us to pay for this thing, I expect more.

[dbug360]

I do see your point there and I was actually thinking the same thing, but with stuff like this e.g the interface , it can always be updated/changed and I think it will be something that will continue to evolve thru out the entire life of the ps3

[PS360WII]

I can dig it.

"Regular updates for the interface" That was my only beef. Sure it's alot of menu systems but it's everything.
I like the ability for keyboard use. Has the sound, video, pics, music that's even before you get to the games!
He pushed that multiple web page thing alot. I can see that being nice seeing that I always have more than one up when using my pc so why not on the console. Once again I can point out that you can use the keyboard on ps3 very handy.
I'm not sure what news your talking about #1 with news on the 360. I have the 360 but I don't see a news channel there. However, I could pop up cnn.com something like that from my ps3 and bam! more news then I could handle.
Just hope the regular updates don't get to crazy.

[Lionel Hutz]

Thanks for that post since I forgot to mention it above. I know some people will just say that you can go online on your PC, but it is often much more convenient to do it right where one is at (My TV is downstairs, but my PC is upstairs). This will come in handy several times.

Some situations I can already see:

1. Looking up my fantasy football team during Sunday games.

2. Checking my email from my couch instead of on my chair.

3. Reading this site about my PS3 from my PS3 on a 46" 1080p screen as opposed to a 17" 1280x1120.

4. The elimination of the need for a HTPC. The recording is done by the DVR. The games are done by the PS3. The movies are done by the PS3. The internet is done by the PS3. Pics are done by the PS3. Thank God I don't have to build another machine!

[Jay da 2KBalla]

Looks like garbage to me. Plain and boring. Hopefully it will be better by launch. And quite frankly I dont want to be on the internet on my console. Thats what I have a pc for.

[Lionel Hutz]

I thought that the PS3 was to support 7.1 channels of audio. After all, isn't that one of the main purposes of HDMI 1.3? If you pause the screen when it goes by really really fast (I did it like 30 times), you notice that 5.1 is the highest.

If it is really 5.1, that is on that screen, could this be one of the updates that Phil was talking about? If not an update, the does this mean that the Best Buy supposed strategy plan is wrong because it has a setup plan of 7.1 audio?

Jared

[THAMMER1]

Why would anyone want to surf the web on your console. If you get a virus your SOL.
* on topic*

It dose look lame. The PSP was O.K. at first because its a hand held. But this for a home console is just to simple.

[ASSASSYN 36o]

Boring, I don`t care if it is still in development. If you have images in the background you can`t see the interface unless the screen is black. And yes you can stream website news from your pc to your xbox 360 and access it in the PICTURES selection. It shows no innovation when you incorporate the psp interface with a $600 game machine. Hence, Weak!

[Solzbury]

Yes, i bought a 360. not because it was the first console out but because it had the best looking games. And i also owned a PSP last year. The interface was horrible for it and if im going to pay 200$ for a handheld, i don't wanna pay another 200$ for a memory stick. They advertised the PSP has a media player. It wasn't even close. The UMDs were too expensive and the line up of games was a joke.
Yes I know that it is not the final build but do you honestly think that they will dramtically change it come november. I think not. You flame me for disliking it because I own a 360. Oh I'm sorry, maybe I should just lower my standards of what I want my dashboard to look like. BTW, what PS3 games are you guys buying at launch for 80$ a pop?

[zypher]

i'm guessing you're from some warped reality or something. i don't think anyone will be paying $80 for PS3 games. more like $60, like the 360.

[Boink]

sony had better watch it, they don't want to get into a "software" race with MS. It won't go well;)

[Stone Cold SA]

Sony has been on top for the last ten years in the computer world, what makes you think they will be knocked off, after all, all this bad news is only bad news in the eyes of a xbox fans and anybody who planes to get a PS3 doesn't care what is said, in fact 90% of PS2 owners i bet will not even look at the Xbox 360, that's the way i here people speaking and no this is not a joke, it's for real!

[THAMMER1]

Do not let them get to you bro. They are just petty people. I'm a 360 owner and since the X1 I have been more than impressed with the amount of innovation and care MS puts into the 360. I mean just put your self in a Die-hard PS3 fans shoes and look at what they are going through. They have found out that the PS2 was not worth all the fan fair mainly due to the X1 showing it up and the game cube being more powerful (graphically) Also they have built this throne for the PS3 that is bigger than the hype around it. Now they are not willing to let go so they are attacking you for your opinion. I think they could have done a better job too. I also understand that they do not have to get 360’s to be gamers. I mean most PS3 fans are slamming every thing even the Wii. So I they do not really want to be gamers at all. Jut be happy that your have what you want and are not imagining what you want.
PEACE

[Stone Cold SA]

It's the fans i dislike Xbox fanboys, they bring really stupid points up about why they think Xbox 360 is better, i've got a lot of love for Playstation franchise as i've been with it for 10 years now and i don't have any complaints, now as for Xbox they have brought competition to Sony which is good; and they have brought a really cool online service i hear which is sweat, but as for this being about how MS has a love for gamming please people don't, it just sounds stupid, they have a love for competition and in my book there not really that great at it (I mean in the console world), it's just the fact they have a lot of money to splash about so they can bribe game's developers and with Sony's console not out and speculation to how well it will do in the opening round due to price game's developers right now may very well be interested in taking MS on, but however Sony is here in November and i'm very happy with all the games comming out on it and i think a lot of them are better than the 360 games, but as i say 360 is a cool console and i may get one later down the road so you can flame me for that if you want but i've said it how i feel it is!

[THAMMER1]

The PS1 was the best compared to the comp at that time. And the PS2 ruled until 12/2001. Back then out of 20 people/PS2 owners I know only 2 of them bought the X1. We ignored it until I opened Halo witch was in the rapper for 3 weeks (We ignored Halo 1 for 3 weeks. We did not even open the game to check it out.) after Xmas. Once we got popped that and noticed that the graphics were nothing like we have seen on the PS2. Then when Knock out kings 2002 came out the X1 version out shined the PS2 version. Then it was the same with Madden and NBA live 02,03,04,05,06,07. The built in HDD and online service and Halo 2 sealed the deal.

Also 10 out of my 20 friends would not even touch Xbox joysticks until they heard the price of the PS3. The guys gave me the same argument for the past 5 years PS2 is better than Xbox. I would ask them why do you say that if you have never play one. They would even o as far as cutting out the power on the circuit breaker when we were playing Xbox. Now all of my friends are 360 owners. And only five of them will stand in line for 2 days for PS3's. I asked them why did they put up such a fight for all of those years. They just say they thought it was funny. But you know what they were fan boys to the max.

Now if the PS3 out dose the 360 history will repeat itself. If the 5 guys who already own 360 go get the PS3 and it out shines the 360 you know what I will be a PS3 owner too. It’s not a hate thing it called being real. My post are real man not just I want to piss you off because you’re a PS3 fan. I’m a 5th generation gamer I’ve had most consoles for the past 21 years. I will never sell out. I know its hard to see what I say as any thing but hate but if you read between the lines you will get my point.

[Lionel Hutz]

Solzbury, if you go back and look at my post, I did not flame you at all. All I said to you was that the PS3 interface could not be the ugliest thing you ever saw because the PSP is the same thing, and the PSP interface was seen first, meaning that the PSP would be the worst interface you ever saw, not the PS3's. That's all I was saying.

As for $80 launch prices, what would draw you to that conclusion? All news that has come out as of late has indicated that first-party titles will be priced with 360 titles at $60, not $80.

Thammer, thanks for attacking me based on what Solzbury wrote. You obviously did not read what I wrote above and assumed that I was a PS3 "petty" person based on Solzbury’s comments. I in fact was not “attacking you [Solzbury] for your opinion”

Go back and read all the comments before attacking me. (Actually I even made some criticisms of the PS3 in my first comment about the picture slideshow and then about how it showed 5.1 sound instead of 7.1).

So, if you want to apologize, you are more than welcome as you were the ones that attacked me, not the other way around.

[THAMMER1]

If you did not attack him then my post was not directed to you. Right!

[power of Green]

90% of PS2 gamers won't even look at the 360 nor do they want to buy the PS3, i'v been talking to people in "game shops" and it's what gamers and store employee's have been saying, and that's for real. Now ofcourse this will change for both systems in one way or the other. At first i thought the PS3 display was sleek and stylish and more adult, but after downloading the xo6 theme i changed my mind, I like the blade window set-up on the 360 better it just looks easyer to see what's going on thus no hunting for things and the PS3 set-up seems like you will be hunting for stuff even more so than the xbox 360's set up. Sony's always had bland computerish set-ups. JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THIS PAGE YOU'RE ON POSTING STUFF AND IMAGEN A BLUE WAVE STREAMING ACROSS IT AND YOU HAVE THE PS3 INTERFACE.

[Stone Cold SA]

I'm a PS3 fan, your obviously an Xbox 360 fan, i like both consoles but i like PS3 better, now anyway, PS1 sold over 100M and it cost £400 when i was released, PS sold over 104M units, now many say that was down to faults and replacements being bought, but when you look at the PS1 sales which were 4M less and not down to faults, people must ask there selves how bad all this fault nonsense actually was, obviously it's not that bad, i'd say at least 85M PS2 owners and considering the UK PS1 launch cost £400 and the PS3 is gonna cost £425 please tell me why PS3 is in so much danger due to the price!

[Stone Cold SA]

Then there is some serious fanboyism going on!

[power of Green]

What i said has nothing to do with fanboyism. What i said is; when i talk to 14-24 year olds looking at PS2 games in all the shops i visit, i ask them about PS3 and almost all of them say no it's too much; and some wish they had the money for the 360. This might mean nothing or it could be the mind set of the public. PS3's set-up cought my eye at first because of the clean non-colorful interface i changed my mind knowing MS is going to put some non kiddy theme's(X06) on live for downloading and the 360 seems like it will be easyer to navigate. HOW IS THAT AN FANBOY COMMENT.?

[power of Green]

If you are talking to me, the interface isn't the reason i won't be buying PS3. The games and the feel of past console's of Sony has turned me off. Things like analoge control in games, the controller's feel, The eclusives, and the; lifes like a BOX OF CHOCOLATE surprizes.

[specialguest]

im well aware that this isn't the final product, but *sigh*...i expected something different.

like someone else stated, it was fine on the PSP, but for the PS3, it should have been much different and better. this cross bar menu looks lonely and cold, while the 360 online layout looks lively and inviting.

out of all of the creative layouts and designs out there from all of the creative artistic minds, they decided to just clone the PSP design?!? ahh-foo-e!

[power of Green]

COOL! VONAGE!!!! hu, hu, hu hu hu.

[Boink]

So sony has been on top of the gaming world for 10 years, and nintendo was on top for years before them.

So how long has microsoft been on top of the software world? how long you've been there means little,

It's what you do to stay there. Sony did everything right with the ps2, but they are failing to do the things that got them to the top. and if you think it's only xbox fans that are taking note of the bad news, think again. A lot of industry players/investors/developers/r eviewers are paying attention.
Square enix is pedging more support to other consoles, ubisoft giving the 360 some exclusives, as well as praising them for making a great console to create for, also giving tons of launch titles to the wii. take 2(aka rockstar, GTA) giving MS equal launch time with GTA4, instead of PS exclusive.

and of course none of your friends are thinking about the 360, fanboys group with other fanboys.

of the people I know who have a 360 are split between former ps2 oweners looking to upgrade, and former xbox owners, who obviously went up.

am I saying MS is better? Sony is worse? not at all. MS is doing good things right now, and sony will have to work harder to win this round as there is much more level playing field this time around.

cheers!

[God of Gaming]

Watching this video I am struck by how its exactly the opposite of LIVE. Look at what Sony placed from left to right... System settings? Why on earth would I want to have to scroll through my system settings every time to get to my friends list? You fire up LIVE and what do you get? Your LIVE blade with your friends and messages right away.. wayyyy over to the right is the least used blade.. the system blade.

I find this choice VERY odd. Also There is just something about having your profile auto logged in and seeing your gamertag with gamerscore and everything you need as far as connecting to your friends at your fingertips.

I am a big 360 supporter but I was really hoping Sony would do something unique and this video really lets me down. I know some of you dont care about all the extras but once you have it, when you log in and friends message you instantly because they have been notified your on line.. you feel like Part of something.

This dashboard leaves me cold... too bad.

[DJ]

Holding the right directional button for 1 second to get the friend's list is just too much. =P

[SDS Overfiend]

If you surfing the Web now Typing fanboy bullsh1t the PS3 Web surfing Option becomes Null and Void no if, and or buts.

The interface so look to dark and serious for no reason. I have a PSP and all the sorting through sh1t is time consuming. On Live when my sh1t comes on My friends list say 9 people on, i start going through the market place to see if any new game demos are up and let the system read off who's online while im flowing or Playing some of the best games on the market. Beside if you can browse the net you can get hacked with the Quickness. great move sony. You will have fanboys Buying back PS3s in no time.
But YO,
Xbox 360, Get Down or Lay Down.

[HyperBear]

I like both the PS3 and 360 interfaces. They, you can say, are both different(hey theres a word you dont here too often) from each other. Xbox 360 went with the awsome lookin blades, and you can easily access through them. PS3 went with the PSP-Like interface, which there is nothing wrong with that, because then if you want movies or music, just go right to that tab, and there you go. I also like how the PS3 has internet functionalities, just like psp, being able to surf the web, and with a keyboard and mouse, and having up to 8 web pages at a time, and easily navigate through them. Its just, i dont think neither of the interfaces are bad, i mean c'mon guys, they are just frickin interfaces, what has that got to do with gaming, or playing games for that matter.

[DJ]

Sony's signature style is elegant simplicity, and the XMB does that perfectly. Everything is laid out and each icon is universally understandable. The background has a beautiful animation sequence and everything about it just screams 'high tech'.

Microsoft on the other hand likes to make everything bright, loud, and hip. The blades aren't as intuitive or elegant as the XMB, but it's good at what it does and is a big improvement over the original Xbox's operating system.

The people complaining about how hard the XMB is to use though are just lying through their teeth. Even children figure out the XMB as soon as they see it (i've watched a few do it at my local Gamestop) and the fact that Sony is using it as standard across the PSP, PS3, and even their televisions is awesome.

The built-in Web Browser for PS3 is a great idea, and I'm amazed that Microsoft never attempted putting one in their 360 console. You'd figure if you're paying $50 a year that you'd at least have the ability to look at websites. The PS3's photo mode is sweet, and the little stab that Harrison took at Microsoft at the end was pretty cute.

Oh yeah, there is some news from my local Circuit City. The Xbox 360 kiosk died; it has the whole "ring of death" thing going on and they were forced to set up a secondary console over in the HDTV section. No one plays it, but it's there. The PS2 demo station is also missing, which means they're already gearing up for the PS3 kiosks/demo theaters.

[power of Green]

Figure's you would like it. Elegant simplicity is an option with the 360. The blade's are simple and Elegant with the right theme. how is scrolling through text Elegant?. How does that one" bar show the raw the strenth of the tech under the hood, The 360 has different animated paterns(standard theme) on ever page that give's the same effect. Cool Vonage!.

[DJ]

But the folded blades take up too much space and even when they're open you have to search through for a while to find what you're looking for. The XMB is just a series of icons in a horizontal line, and from there you choose what you want. It's easier to use and has a simple visual design.

Like I said, Microsoft likes to be loud and 'hip' while Sony prefers to give an elegant high tech feel to their products. One tries very hard to appeal to teenagers while the other one focuses on quality and lets the products speak for themselves.

[ApocalypseShadow]

is easy to use.anyone who has played psp knows this.anyone who doesn't think they will be able to use it needs to go back to 1st grade.being able to surf for free is a big kick at microsoft.why spend money for msn?surf for free with your console.put it on a monitor.i also see fanboyism increasing from both sides,but especially from 360 fanboys.having a good show at x06 has turn gamers like thammer into extreme fanboys.how sad.each system will have fun.and ps3 and wii are still being waited for by their fans.so quit with the "no one wants these systems anymore"crap.peter moore still wants people to buy wii60 because they need for people to not buy ps3s.if microsoft wasn't scared,they don't need to use crappy tactics.bring on the next two systems.

[ChickeyCantor]

cant agree more....
it looks like the PSP UI BUT really wasnt glad with that one........it really is depressing........
they should make it more MEDIA like.......just an UI thats says This is a 10 year long lasting console( 10 years?........so there will be no Ps4?............WTF MATE)

its depressing end of story.
ans sonyfanboys cant agree cozz evry thing sony makes they worship it.....open your eyes man

[Unkoman]

of the xbox blades. I remeber the first time and seen it and was like "WTF"? I spent more time with that than the d@mn launch games! lol. Its fast and simple. I think the PS3 interface will be kool too. I can't say it will be better because screens NEVER do anything innovative any justice. I just hope it has me like "WTF. I can't believe this is so kool!" when I start using it. I agree with DJ with the hope marketing thing. I feel that SONY's PS3 is being presented as an elegant piece of electronic equipment; a music player, plasma t.v., etc. Whereas I think M$ has more of a "console" feel. I like both. I will get both. M$ did a much better job this time around in terms of design and I think it sexy. I think the PS3 is big ang sexy in its on right to. I'm not trying to be straddle the fence I just can appreciate the beauty of both. Can anyone join me?

[DT Crisis315]

hell no lol

[MONOLITHICIDE]

this was i good demo, people are saying its boring and not impressive because its black, well people, it doesnt have to be black, it can be all the colors or ever pictures you have on your psp, i dont know this for a fact but it was on the psp

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

You're ridiculous guys. You're bashing the PS3 for having a web browser? That's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. I'd rather browse on my 56" 1080p tv ANY day than on a freaking 17" monitor. Seriously guys, think before you post. What do you guys care about the background? The 360's background's good, but how much can you change it? Not much! The PS3's, i'm sure, will be completely changeable (ala - psp)

I use my psp to browse all the time. It's great to check email and have aim conversations. I even check myspace on it.

Lata...idiots

[drewdrakes]

For one, the Xbox 360 background is very dynamic, as we have seen with the Xbox Live Camera. It adds effects to video coming from the webcam in real-time. Its quite cool. Oh also, 360 has theme packs, you have clearly never taken a decent look at the 360. Youre just like many other people. You have to take a decent look at all hardware, its easy to shoot anything down. Ipods suck, who needs all that space (see?). By the way, dont start bashing me, i know everyone does it.
Number two, I would much rather surf the web on my pc, why? 1. A mouse, 2. A keyboard. I could do in 5 seconds what it would take you 5 minutes to do. If you really want to surf the web on your tv, get a computer that outputs SDTV.

Also, it would be greatly appreciated if you wouldnt call everyone idiots. That is the reason why i voted yours as spam/offensive.

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Cuz they make quality products. Sure, they're expensive, but it's so worth it. I've never had a Sony product fail me. That may not be the case for some, but they have a very very very low return rate compared to other companies...like...oh...Micros oft. <who gets sued about 7 times a day, but nobody posts that on here because they're too busy saying Sony is getting sued once a year. Open your eyes, guys. You're being brain-washed by another American company. What did Microsoft bring to gaming? Anything?

At all?

The PS3's interface is sweet. It's not depressing. Anyone who doesn't know how to work something like this...will find it easy to use. It is!

[MySwordIsHeavenly]

Dude, i'm sorry, but how many of those people don't have 600 bucks? ANY, and i mean ANY, teenager-adult that has a 6.50 an hour job can cough up $600 dollars. You must have been talking to bums on the streets. My little brother doesn't even have a job and he has 1200 dollars. It sounds like you guys aren't willing to work for something you want. It's freaking ridiculous when people can buy 1500 dollar computers and say they're getting a deal, but look at the PS3 that does a LOT more...and say 600 is too much. Come, freakin', on!!!

[drewdrakes]

I like the background effect on these interfaces. Also, the GUI is cool itself, but gets annoying after a while (a relatively long while, but still does get annoying eventually, then again, what doesnt, ill attempt to stop contradicting myself now). I cant tell you this because of my PSP.

[Siesser]

I'll agree, it's not like this is the greatest interface ever created. But it does seem to provide all of the functionality I'll need, in a very accessible and to-the-point manner. I don't see how it's something to complain about. And given how expensive both consoles are, I don't see how something as small as this can factor into comparing which one you want. The system-menu screen has little to do with the games you'll be playing on it.

[Mikey_Gee]

so i can sit it next to my 360 and game till my eyes fall out on my new SXRD XBR2 60" 1080p HDTV

[jdktech2010]

You guys are aruging over an interface!!!! The thing you see for less than 3 minutes before you play a game. Seriously who cares!! I plan on getting a 360 not for the blade menu system but for the games. If you want to pointlessly argue about something at least argue about the games or the consoles power or something that may in some distant land of some point to it.

[MoKa]

Being able to browse sites on the PS3 is awesome, if Im stuck on a game I don't need to run to my computer and look it up on gamefaq.com, I can just use the PS3.

[GRUNT]

Finally some of my questions are Ansrewed!!!!!!

[Truth]

I liked the PSP interface because it was simple, easy to use and stylish. The only change I hope to see as far it gracing the PS3 is more options to customize it.

Overall I like it. Not spectacular, but definitely far from bad.

[Chronical]

The only reason why Sony copied the PSP interface is cause they cant think of anyhting new themselves. or maybe they were just running out of time and could not think of anything and the "Yes Men" of Sony said it is the best.