120°

IGN - Can PS3's Until Dawn Succeed Where Datura Didn't?

IGN - A teen horror flick in playable form? Count me in... tenatively.

Snookies124252d ago

Not unless they add dualshock support. I'm cool with the premise and want to play the game, but I really dislike motion controls this gen. It's not often a developer can pull off good use of motion control.

GribbleGrunger4252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

Sorcery did... but I'm with you. I just can't get along with motion controls. How am I supposed to smoke my cigarette and drink my beer if I'm flailing like a lunatic in front of the TV!? I'd like to slump further into my chair, thank you, and perhaps even doze off for five minutes if necessary!

Snookies124252d ago

Lol! Well said good sir, well said.

Army_of_Darkness4252d ago

I've been waiting forever for another mature move game! cause it has not been used since house of the head overkill( one of the best move games) and i wanna have a reason to wipe that dust off my controllers.

GribbleGrunger4252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

oh yeah, I'm not saying, 'don't go out and buy it', I'm just saying MOVE games are not for me. I just find it difficult to relax and get into... perhaps my antisocial tendencies are not served well by these types of games.

A lot of people DO love them though and I'm actually interested in this game. I think the target demographic is an interesting one and I'll be keeping my eye on how it does this Christmas. The demographic for this game is the antithesis of the demographic for Wonderbook and this scissor attack strategy for Christmas could pay dividends.

We'll see.

abzdine4252d ago

motion gaming is great when it's well used. it helps and provides a full immersion because you need to do some special moves to have the thing done right unlike the controller where you can just drink whatever you have in one hand and just press a button with the other hand.

i'm very confident in Until Dawn since it's a Sony game and nothing better than a Sony team to take good advantage of Sony's motion control device.

Killzone 3 Move support blew me away, i therefore know how good the gaming experience can be is the controls are done right.

Bring it on Supermassive Games !!!

sikbeta4252d ago

Motion-waggle is a waste, except for pointer-control functionality, moving the controller in the direction you want to shoot in a FPS game is good, waggle your arms like dumb to re-create a movement in the game is stupid.

O-T

I want to try this game with DS3, like it should be with any game.

guitarded774252d ago

Until Dawn and Datura are totally different games and concepts. It's stupid to compare the two. We haven't seen enough of Until Dawn to know much more than the first trailer was awesome for horror buffs. I hope it does succeed, because the concept is great... they just need the execution to be great.

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 4252d ago
FunAndGun4252d ago

Its funny, people complain that there are no Move games created from the ground up with only Move in mind. Then one comes along, and everyone wants DS support.

I hope it stays Move only because that is how the game is made to be played. Watch there be complaints from people who play it with a DS saying it doesn't feel right or the controls are tacked on.

GribbleGrunger4252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

Oh, I agree. Sony will be selling MOVE bundles this Christmas so it would be remiss of them to offer duelshock support from the start. Perhaps a six months delay would be the wise thing to do.

With Sports Champion 2 and Wonderbook coming, the MOVE could do nicely this Christmas. And this could maintain that momentum next year. Variety is key here and Sony haven't put all their eggs in one basket, offering AAA duelshock games too... and plenty of them

FunAndGun4252d ago

I agree with you there Gribble.

I just want the game to utilize the Move fully and for them to implement all the gameplay mechanics with that in mind. Without saying, "oh, we can't do that because it won't work for DS players then."

If they can make the game work for DS players that doesn't feel broken after the game releases, then that would be cool.

mephish4252d ago (Edited 4252d ago )

move only.. no thanks...good concept.. just don't care for the motion controls...

brettyd4252d ago

This game only makes sense with Move, thats what it was made for.

MySwordIsHeavenly4252d ago

Why do people hate motion controls all of a sudden? I absolutely love Move.

I need that explained to me. Why would someone want LESS immersion?

Blankman854252d ago

Not all of a sudden, it's been that way since wii. You only love motion controls now because SONY is kinda into it now.
Truth is, the isn't a single great retail Move exclusive game.

shenpo_shin4252d ago

sorcery is good but sony again fail to promote this game

MySwordIsHeavenly4252d ago

Datura only failed in the eyes of reviewers. I thought it was fantastic!

Knushwood Butt4251d ago

Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot too, and the combination of Move and 3D was really good. Holding the map up to your face and manipulating it with Move in 3D was really jaw dropping for me. Some of the later sections were awesome too.

Regardless, Datura has nothing to do with Until Dawn. Makes about as much sense as comparing Until Dawn with Tumble.

Show all comments (21)
150°

Until Dawn Remake vs. Original Comparison Highlights If This Is A Worthy Upgrade

Until Dawn is getting a remake which always felt like an odd choice since the original still looks pretty good, is it worth the upgrade?

Read Full Story >>
twistedvoxel.com
CrimsonWing691d 22h ago

Not really… they just couldn’t be bothered with making a sequel? This original is already available on PS5 and for the cheap. This just seems kind of pointless and I’m not seeing anything that screams next-gen remake to me, but if you’re a fan of it and looking forward to this, more power to ya’

Amplitude1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Dark Pictures Anthology games didn't exactly sell well, but they were much lower budget games that reused assets all over the place.

Its probably safe to assume that this remake - which will also presumably reuse but improve assets from the original - is a test bed to see if a high budget sequel is actually financially viable. Also brings in people who never played it when it released 9 years ago.

I'm just spit balling but it makes sense.
Ill be buying it like I do all their games haha obviously I'd rather a sequel but I totally get it.

outsider16241d 10h ago

And of all the remakes we could have gotten, they choose this one.

MetroidFREAK211d 19h ago

As someone who hasn't played this before, I'll be snagging it on PS5

anast1d 3h ago

It's a good game and it's definitely worth a purchase if you haven't played it before.

MrBaskerville22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

It's good, The Quarry is worth a look while you wait.

MetroidFREAK2120h ago

I have that on disc for PS5. That's on my backlog

Iceball20001d 19h ago

Is there an upgrade fee for this or no? Like how TLoU had and Uncharted.

shinoff21831d 17h ago

Even if their was. Actual work was put into this. Companies that give it away were doing it and thanked for it. Or they were doing it cause they fked up really bad Ala cyberpunk

Also you have to be mistaken cause the last of us is a straight up remake, mad work was put into that. You also didn't have buy it or anything to play the ps4 version. It was also one of the best games for awhile and it's certainly better then anything the other high end console has put out in a very long time if ever

Crows901d 4h ago

What other high end console?

anast1d 3h ago

What do you do for a living? What ever it is I want you to do it for free.

cthulhucultist1d 5h ago

Having played all Dark Pictures Anthology games as well as the Quarry, I am definitely not skipping this one.

I would even buy the original if it was on PC, since I only have a Steamdeck and a Switch.

I remember that it got surprisingly good reviewed and the Quarry has loosely the same premise as Until Dawn (not exactly the same but similar setting)

on_line_forever1d 2h ago

Wait a minute why they use sun lights in horror game ? What's wrong with those developers ?

Even in Silent hill 2 remake bloober team use sun lights in hospital reception WHY ? The whole city is covered with fog

Really bad developers we have these days

Show all comments (15)
310°

Single-Player Titles God Of War Ragnarok & Until Dawn Will Require PSN Account On PC

Sony Interactive Entertainment's upcoming single-player PC games like God of War Ragnarok and Until Dawn will require a PSN account.

Read Full Story >>
twistedvoxel.com
PrinceOfAnger3d ago

Sony will lose support and money from 177 countries that support Steam but do not support PSN!
Tell me about stupidity, I'll tell you Sony.
Its concern is to increase the number of PSN subscribers, at the expense of profit and
More sales for their games from 177 countries.

purple1012d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Thing is it’s free to create an account (for pc players)

So they don’t need essential / extra / premium tiers, there is literally no good reason. Stupid but I don’t know the ins-and-outs but I can imagine it’s just a dumb reason

Ohh actually maybe it’s to combat piracy, so the game will not launch unless you have psn, then Sonys server end would validate if it’s a real copy or a cracked one

That could be it

ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Ding ding ding. Your edit brought the answer. Lol

Sony wants to validate their games on PC so that they know who's legit and who stole them. I understand Prince in that we have too many accounts we have to make. And it's a slippery slope. Like ported Xbox games to PlayStation will require a Microsoft account. Besides the already Ubisoft accounts and Epic accounts. Hard to keep up with all these names and passwords.

But you figured it out.

blacktiger2d ago

so you are saying it's another DRM? And is it always online? even though it's single player offline game?

darthv722d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Its free... sure. The main issue are the countries that are not on the list to select when creating the account. And I don't think Sony allows nearest neighbor, where you pick the one closest to you that is supported. People can obviously pick any country they want from the list, but that then becomes saddled to them going forward. Personally my country is supported, and I have not felt the need to change it so I dont even know if you can after the fact. If I were to move to an unsupported country... would the games even work if it detects me playing it from one when I am registered in the other?

This all stems from the whole Helldivers fiasco. Countries that support steam, and let them buy it and play only to have them cut off because their country was not officially part of the PSN account creation which was later enforced after the fact.

Andrew3362d ago

I believe every Sony single player game has leaked online the same day it releases. Needing a psn account to play the game legally isn't gonna change the fact it'll be pirated same day.

Jingsing2d ago

They'll find out sadly that most of their games are pirated, Ghosts of Tsushima over 500k people downloading it not on Steam, It sold below 70k on Steam.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Black tiger, we all know games are stolen all the time on PC. Stolen to play. Stolen and emulated to play older system's games. The only way to stop it or slow it down is to have some type of security measure.

They're businesses. They have every right to protect what they make. PC gamers don't have ANY right to steal it.

There's a grey area when it comes to games purchased and the companies make your purchase unplayable through updates it closing servers. And we decide to take measures in our own hands to continue playing what was rightfully purchased by downloading it modding the code. But it's still theft.

Some gamers don't like the measures because they want the option to steal. Not everyone does. But many on PC do. That's just the reality. You can hide from the truth. But the truth is still there.

--Onilink--2d ago

What good does it do to create an account (with fake information from another country) if the game isnt released in Steam in that country anyway?

Or are you expecting people to also have to create another steam account in another country in order to link it to the PSN account they now have to make, just to be able to play Sony games?

Its a dumb and unnecessary situation, simple as that

shinoff21832d ago

You make a good point about piracy. Still weird Sony is the only one under fire about this even though they aren't alone, ea, ubisoft, Microsoft, etc. I don't know why Sony doesn't sell in those countries, but it's their prerogative.

2d ago
+ Show (6) more repliesLast reply 2d ago
ApocalypseShadow2d ago

I understand the account thing but you're way off on the subscriber thing.

just_looken2d ago

@prince

I agree and i see the defenders are here

Once again everyone you need real information to make a psn account so you can only have one account you loose that then you loose all your playstation digital games and have bricked consoles.

The use of programs like vpns are a banable offense to sony and like so many other companies are monitoring your chat/activity via ai bots.

You should not half to buy a game then fill out a form like your buying a gun just to play a single player game.

Every other launcher like ea/ubi/rstar/acti/blizzard/bet h You just need a email address/password acti has on some game the bs phone # crap or unless your going to buy something then yeah real info. But sony like i said you need to give everything but a nude selfie/dna sample but that will be for psvr 4 and or ps6.

Magatsuhi2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

You're full of bs. I literally just made a fake psn account in el salvador and i had no issues. All i did was google map an address and a zip code and voila, psn account. Did not need to add any personal information.

Where does it state you need ps+ to play online on steam? You're being purposefully hyperbolic and dishonest or just stupid in order to spin outrage because you hate sony for very dumb reasons.

just_looken2d ago

choo choo here comes the sony blind boys

I never said you need psplus for steam never

I also said sense 2023 again 2023

But i get it its sony they do 0 wrong

P_Bomb2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

“…you need to give everything but a nude selfie/dna sample”

Nobody wants your dna. I promise you.

badz1492d ago

"...you need real information to make a psn account so you can only have one account you loose that then you loose all your playstation digital games and have bricked consoles."

It's one thing to be a hater but it's another to be full of crap.

1. I have multiple accounts in 4 countries for several reasons. And making the PSN accounts is free.

2. Lose your account, you lose everything associated with that account? Wow...like every other accounts too? WTH are you on about?

Amplitude2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Though I agree with you it sucks to have to create an account - literally not a single thing that you said was true.

-You don't need real information.
-You can have any number of accounts.
-Its rare to lose a PSN account, but the game is still tied to Steam no matter how you slice it. Once you have it, your game can't be taken away by anybody but Valve.
-You won't be banned for playing a single player game with a VPN on.
--There is no form or ID required.
-The Sony "form" requires the exact same details as Steam. It also doesn't need a phone number.

There are very real reasons why the account requirement is bs but every other comment covers that.

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 2d ago
StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Who gives a shit, they don’t want to sign up, they can always play other games and sign up to their requirements instead. You want PSN games, you sign up to PSN. Same applies to every other platform.

PhillyDonJawn2d ago

Kinda wild how Sony and MS care more about accounts/users than actual sales

TheEroica2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Sony fans don't care... They don't get the concept of why this screws gamrers over. Sony fans only know how to shill for the Corp.

fr0sty2d ago

We're too busy playing these games on our playstations to care.

jznrpg2d ago

This is extra money for them.

+ Show (4) more repliesLast reply 2d ago
CrimsonWing692d ago

Are we always going to get news articles on this? Yes, any Sony game on PC now requires a PSN and won’t be accessible to regions that don’t have the PSN infrastructure.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Exactly ots not like.on PC we already have so many different launchers.

Rockstar
Ubi
Epic
Battlenet
Steam.
GOG

What's one more and I already have a PSN account

Number1TailzFan2d ago

Meh, I mean in the 90's and early 2000's some games had built in server browsers or built in lobby/chat systems like Worms 2 and it's sequels, if not we had GameSpy or Wireplay to find online players.

Multiple launchers is kind of annoying though, TBH I would prefer just one..

just_looken2d ago

If you read the 2023 psn terms of service but this is sony so i know 90% here did not this is a pc killer.

Not only do you need real information so one account no way to make a dummy account and they need your address/real name some countries a drivers license but they also use ai to monitor you.

In there terms they are checking your ip address as the use of VPN's is against the terms and programs that cheat are also bannable but in the list they think 3rd party antivitus is cheating.

So yeah paying for god of war then filing out a form like your going to buy a gun just to play the thing to me sound's stupid but i am not a sony blindboy.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Looken

I didn't know that. It sucks and I for one will be very watchful of what I buy in the future from Playstation on PC. It's like Sony can't stay out of its own way when it comes to success of their games

hiroyukisanada2d ago

Why is this a problem? Just curious. Don't you need accounts for Steam, Xbox, Gog, Epic Games,EA, Blizzard,etc..? Why is it a problem if you need PSN?

darthv722d ago

There are close to 200 countries around the world. MS is supported in 98%, Steam 90%. Sony... less than 50%.

Grilla2d ago

You guys keep crying about these 177 3rd world countries.

CrimsonWing692d ago

How much of a % do these 177 countries equate to Sony’s overall sales by region?

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Crimson
Would you say this is more pro or anti consumer?

romulus232d ago

LOL, I saw the list of countries that aren't supported by PSN, I don't think Sony has anything to worry about with any of them. These aren't the kinds of places where game consoles and games are selling significantly enough to matter anyway. Just certain people are trying to blow this out of proportion.

Hofstaderman2d ago

Trust me in those countries its cheaper to buy a console than build or buy a pc that can run ps5 games. Taxes and import duties are a real killer for graphics cards etc.

Giga_Gaia2d ago

The countries where PSN isn't supported definitely wouldn't move the needle in term of sales. In the end, they don't really matter. You can bet Sony did the math and have a lot more data than some stupid fanboys like you people.

+ Show (3) more repliesLast reply 2d ago
buffig2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@ Darthv72 Ahhh yes. All the people complaining on forums are people from Cameroon. It's definitely not people who it won't affect making a massive deal out of nothing

darthv722d ago

...doesn't affect me one bit. All I did was provide a logical answer to the question hiro asked. People disagreeing does not refute the facts presented.

just_looken2d ago

@buff

Its funny you can tell the Americans so much now

Japan is part of the list sony has banned ghost of tsumia pc version people in japan wtf? every American meh im fine with this as they give sony all ther information.

Not to mention in alot of countries that this game is supported you still have issues with getting a valid working address then the whole information that they need. I would never give sony my govt id fuck that.

staticall2d ago

IMO, because it's a dumb requirement. Steam already has DRM built-in and it's working fine. And affected games are offline singleplayer games. This requirement doesn't help the players, only Sony stats.

Does this make tbe game better? No. Does this help the player or does it improve their experience? Also no. So why is this required? Just cause. So why anyone defends this again?!

just_looken2d ago

All those compaines need a email/password that is it oh your ea account got banned well unlink that one from steam make another relink sesne the game is on steam.

Sony need You email address password first/last name home phone home address/postal proof of age location country and ip address then will monitor you 24/7. You will also need payment information on console for ps +

You can only have one psn account sense it need's your real info in some countries it needs a attached govt id.

Your psn account gets banned then all these games are dead to you and your playstaion consoles are bricked sense you need a psn account/ps + to go online/get updates etc

You can not make a new account sense it will say hey you already have that info on this account that is banned sorry gtfo.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 2d ago
truthBombs2d ago

MAUs is clearly just as important to Sony.

I say make signing into PSN optional. Give players a reason to use it.. like the recently announced layer that lets you earn trophies.

I'm not bothered but there are countries who won't have access to the game because of this.

DustMan2d ago

Oh noooooo! A common business practice! Still buying day one lol.

Show all comments (65)
80°

Until Dawn - Gameplay Trailer | PS5 Games

When eight friends return to the isolated lodge where two of their group vanished a year prior, fear tightens its icy grip, and their mountain retreat descen...

Psychonaut853d ago

Really don’t understand why they remade this. Good game. Pointless remake

BlackCountryBob3d ago

I went back to the original PS4 game recently and it surprised me how dark and textureless some of the environments are compared to the newer games like The Quarry as my memory has all these games looking basically the same. To me the video does seem a solid visual upgrade, I wouldn’t spend £70 but if this was £30 with some new story elements akin to a Directors cut, I think I’d bite for a Halloween replay through