PS3 and Xbox 360 to fight it out on GTA VI

Tech writes: "Microsoft man says Xbox already 'owns' next Grand Theft Auto: The console war between the PS3 and the Xbox 360 is heating up daily. And this week Microsoft Game Studios boss, Shane Kim, has come out with some fightin' words with regard to the imminent launch of Rockstar's Grand Theft Auto IV. He claims that the launch of GTA IV could be a deciding factor in which console wins the sales battle in the long-run.

Will GTA IV help the Xbox 360 defeat the PS3 in this current generation of gaming? Will the PS3 fight back? We'll just have to wait and see."

[aggh im on fire]

I dare say it will sell more on the 360 as it has the biggest user base and looks like its going to get all the advertising.
I played the last ones on the Playstation but will be getting it for the 360. Need those achivements.

[nicholascage24]

i own both ps3 and xbx but i would be purchasing my copy for the ps3. GTA4 is also big in europe too where ps3 version will have a huge advantage in terms of sales.The ps2 owners are likely to purchase a ps3 for Gta rather than xbx here in Na. Most of these ps2 owners were also ps1 owners.

A tradition is not changed overnight and so are the brand preferences. Most x360 owners were old xbx owners. same goes to ps3.

[sonarus]

well i am getting mine on ps3 however it will more than likely sell more on 360 however the real question is will it play the roll of system seller more for the 360 or for the ps3. The whole achievement idea is cool but i wouldnt buy a game just cus of achievements. I am more interested in the 360 exclusive content if its something extremely cool then i will reconsider buying for 360 however most of my friends at this point are just buying their ps3's so in order for me to take advantage of online fun i still strongly lean to the ps3 version.

[power of Green]

Lets say Wii was about the same as the 360, If Mario came to the 360 with the 360 costing less and the 360 version having more content or the full game, gamers would refuse the 360 and the 360 version of Mario because they see it as a Nintendo game?.

Most of those PS2 owners are simply casual trend consumers founded from NIntendo, Sony won them over and Nintendo seems to be winning them back faster then MSFT and Sony can win them over or keep them.

People will buy the game or the console to go with the game the best way they can, MSFT would have announced whats comming in the future by the time this title launches.

Actually they could do great damage if a reduced price bundle was released, obviously they're chest is held up high so expect something.

This "tradition" with PS games has been said sence PS games started comming to the 360.

[gamesR4fun]

if the 360 sales match the ps3 ones they did better than I thought they would...
personally tho Im buying this for the pc the mod scene loves gta and Im still playing new stuff on all my old GTA games.

[IntelligentAj]

Aside from GTA how many PS heavy hitters have come to the 360? Not arguing just asking a question.

[sonarus]

wish ps3 version could get mod support:(. Now if sony could get that rockstar to do that...that would offer something to take off the msoft edge with exclusive content.

@Power of green: What are you saying. What games does microsoft have under its belt. Msoft announced alan wake how many yrs ago that still isnt out isnt that announcing games in advance. If you think msoft is trying to pull suprises you are only fooling yourself. At most they will suprise with 2 or maybe 3 titles but there are still titles under sony that they themselves havnt fully unmasked. Remember there is the other Socom project, Afrika, infamous, eight days, heavy rain, war devil, la noire, getaway 3, there is the rumored kojima exclusive, there is the other rockstar exclsuive thats not la noire, then they still have god of war 3 coming out then there is the team ico game. Not trying to count msoft out here but i doubt microsoft has enough games under their sleeves to challenege sony's exclusives. And believe me there is more i havent even mentioned cus i wnt go start digging them up. to find out msofts hidden exclusived that is exactly what you have to do. The way you speak its like sony jst runs around announcing exclusives every week. Common man with such a mentality you dnt belong in the gamer zone section

[power of Green]

Still don't know why #1 is getting dissagree's.

Marketing GTA4, price drops and the announcments of the lineup and more will change everything, its simple really.

Sony took advantage of MSFT not boasting their plans months or years in advance.

Thats all we're seeing(plus the two PS3 drops in a few months, SKU swaping or otherwise)

http://news.teamxbox.com/xb...

[SUP3R]

It's funny to me how HUGE a deal GTAIV is to Microsoft this year than any of their huge exclusive '08 games...umm...hmm...that's another topic by itself.

[mikeslemonade]

And how much money did Microsoft spend to "own" GTA4? It's not worth the money. And the PS3 exclusives that are coming out early 2008 will more than enough offset this game. Halo 3 hardly put a dent on the PS3, so GTA4 will underdeliver as well especially if the game is multiplatform. Halo 3 sold close to 9 million and anyone who thinks GTA 4 will sell 27 million is retarded because that's what it would need to sell for the 360 to put a dent on the PS3. Because GTA4 on 360 would need to sell 18 million compared to the PS3 9 million in order to do a Halo 3 type damage. The truth is GTA4 will sell under 12 million.

[LastDance]

you know..this "exlusive content" sounds like The rockstar guys sat around together and tried to come up with the least but sufficient enough amount of love for all that money they gave them.

and microsoft boast this?....seriously what is the most useless thing about GTA.....
the missions right? ive played all 5 gtas and i havent gotten through half of the missions ever hahah.
microsofts like this happy little puppy that will take anything.

[Stubacca]

I can't believe folk are going on about achievement points. What the hell? The thing about GTA4 is that it's gonna be a killer game nomatter what console you own. But achievements don't mean anything to me.

What does is the exclusive content. This will drive 360 sales, despite the idiots have to pay for it additionally. I hate the idea of episodic content. But if there is a single reason in the whole wide world why to buy a 360 it would be that content. I'd rather the city bigger, preferably on a blu-ray disc.

The only question is, will this "episodic content" be any good?

[tatical]

but I'm getting GTA IV for the PS3. I'm waiting for MS to send me my box so my 360 can be fixed as I type this.

[meepmoopmeep]

DMC4 has achievements on the PS3... you can bet on other games to have it also, same goes with in-game soundtracks

[sonarus]

another smart reason to go with the ps3 is you knw it will always be there when you need it. wnt be red ringing when you need to be playing it desprately

[Sevir04]

for the ps3 version and the moment i said PS3, the clerk said that the xbox 360 version has extra content. i just looked up and Said So does the PS3. straight from the mouth of Rockstar them self. i said just put it under the PS3 because dont own a 360. and he was like still...

either way this will be my first GTA i play through completely the others i've always gotten into but them loose track of the story because i cant get any motivation to complete. but i also wanna help out in the Sales of this game.

[resistance100]

Sony actually have the upper hand here. Sure 360 version should sell more copies due to larger install base.

However when it comes to marketing the game sony have the edge, sure 360 version can see more content for extra price when it hits late 08/early 09, however sony can market the fact that they have Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and Metal Gear Solid 4 coming at near the same time being exclusive to the PS3.

[Kleptic]

yeah...the media in general misses that overall...PS2 owners are looking for GTAIV, MGS4, FFXIII, and GT5 just to name a few...MS will make you believe that all they care about is GTAIV...

there is absolutely zero reason to buy a 360 for GTAIV...if you only own a 360...then whatever...but as someone looking to buy a new console...why would you alienate all the other great franchises, and buy the 360 console for GTAIV?...don't bother replying to that...its a rhetorical question...no 360 fanboy has any weight against that argument...

[SUP3R]

Everyone in my neighborhood is talking about getting the PS3 now.
1stly because of the price, 2ndly because of GTA, GT5, MGS4 and also because of the recent Blu-Ray news.
When I asked about the 360, the general response was the 360 doesn't have the games they want and it doesn't have a Blu-Ray player.
GT5 is actually the biggest reason why most are buying a PS3.

[Stubacca]

Playstation is the console of choice.

GTA 1 & 2 = PS1
GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas = PS2
GTA Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories = PSP
GTA4 = PS3 baby!

[MephiSkA]

The title of the article states GTA VI instead of GTA IV.

[power of Green]

This game is only going to help MSFT the lineup for the 360 will kill much of PS3's hype within a few months and a price drop into mass market range will change everything.

MSFT does a poor job marketing most games but when they do market a hit they do it better than everybody else.

[Kleptic]

Good point...Sony is in absolutely no position to introduce a price cut as well, right around GTAIV and MGS4...why would they do that?...cut the price to open the doors for GTAIV......AND.......MGS4...th is spring?...

stop rubbing your nuts dude...If MS does a price cut on the 360...
Sony will answer...and you know it...just deal with the fact that the PS3 is in a impossibly good position this year...I know it sucks for you...but being ignorant to the economics behind both sides just makes you look retarded...

Sony has the titles this year...there is not one exclusive besides NG2 that holds any wait...but NG2 is up against some extremely seasoned veterans...the 360 will not die this year...but it will lose on a massive level...there is no arguing that...

[VigorousApathy]

Golly I wonder which console will win? The one that can be given new updates or the one that paid 50 million dollars for them to shove the giant game into 8 gigabytes? Well, when GTA 5 is made you can just switch discs everytime you want to go to the east part of the city. No big deal.

[power of Green]

WHAT?... Lets just hope we don't have to install the game, theres some dark days ahead for us gamers indeed.

[sonarus]

I do agree with power of green those lengthy install times have to stop. Uncharted is a beautiful game that holds tons of stuff on blu ray disc but didnt need any crappy install time neither did ratchet and clank as i remember nor insomniac and all those games loaded fine. All this installation needs to stop. Apart from taking my precious hard drive space its just annoying. Its even more annoying when i knw its unnecessary its just that some devs dnt plan for it well. Sony needs to introduce this to game devs so those install times can stop.

Regardless of this though even with long install times if gta becomes exclusive to ps3 again and it is way better on ps3 than when it was multiplat i will never buy any msoft game console again for holding back GTAIV. lol well maybe if xbox"720" comes out with another gears lol.

[SUP3R]

Uncharted did have an installation process it was just not long as DMC's.
I have no idea how Capcom managed to create a 22min installation process.

[SlyGuy]

Why don't developers just give us the OPTION to install or not!! (a la Unreal Tournament III)

Personally, I prefer to install games if it helps loading times. Some people don't like the waiting during installations. Solution: DO NOT make it mandatory.

So simple really. What do you guys think?

[gamesR4fun]

its called progress no matter how much you love your 360 the ps3 is in the house and playing rough. Unless M$ shapes up their out heck my money says rip 09. IF they start putting hd's in standard and let devs tap it. Free online gaming for all is a must. A price drop if not on the sku then on the add ons wont hurt either. Then they'll stay profitable until the nex gens ready to roll. But if they jump the sku again and drop support dont expect your average rrod victim to have enough faith to jump with them. Not when the ps3 is here redefining the next gen experience and 4 sure support for the next 8-10 years.

[niall77]

....ps3 owners will move on to MGS4 and GT5 prologue

what other big games does the 360 have in Q2?

you cant win with one game... and def not with a game that you can get on the rival system.

[nicholascage24]

most of the ps2 owners who like gta havent purchased their nex gen console. Do you think they would probably choose something else other than ps3 to play gta4

[Brixxer600]

I don't think that it's about winning, it's more about hitting PS3 sales and having GTA 4 is a big coup for Microsoft, whether some people admit it or not, i remember visiting this site very early on in GTA 4 development, before a 360 version was confirmed, the amount of PS3 "fanboys" claiming that this game would be a huge console seller was incredible, now all the PS3 owners are saying it doesn't matter.

I've got both a PS3 and 360, will get this for the PS3 but it's great to see games like this going multi-plat, i've said it before and i'll say it again, competition is what the games industry needs so thanks to MS for getting involved and making other manufacturers and games developers raise their game.

[Milky]

I really dont think gta IV is going to help xbox 360 that much. Yeah msoft will lower there console price but so will sony.
Situation: The gamer looks for gtaIV on the rack and sees it for xbox 360 and PS3, he then sees that xbox 360 is slightly cheaper and picks the game and xbox console up. He starts moving to the checkout, passing the PS3 game rack, he sees MGS4, GT5 and many other exclusives, consequently dropping the xbox 360 console and game to get the PS3. That is what may happen.

[aggh im on fire]

Just because people brought a playstation 1 and 2 it doesn't mean there going to buy a PS3. I know of loads of people who had Ps1 and Ps2 but brought a 360 rather than a ps3. Did people buy a saturn over the ps1 because they had had a megadrive and mastersystem? Of course not.
True you can't win with one game thats on another system, but every game helps.

[nicholascage24]

i and my friend chris had xbox but no ps2. we became multi console owners this gen.

be logical. why would a ps2 owner not choose a ps3 especially when it has so many features like Blu ray and so many good games coming out this year.ps2 owners would end up purchasing a ps3 even if they own other consoles. However the numbers of such ps2 owners who own anything else are very less to begin with

just see the dmc4 sales in a few days. It is ikely to sell relatively better on ps3 . sure the x360 version might sell more in Na but compaatively it is likely to do better o ps3 since dmc is something that is normally assciated with ps3

[SUP3R]

These games are associated with the Playstation.
They have been associated with the Playstation since the PS1.
To think Microsoft is going to simply grab up a whole new lot of gamers to their consoles with GTA4 isn't something that'll happen at the snap of their fingers.
It probably dawned on them, just how difficult this is going to be.
They have to fight for sales in NA, it's the only territory they have at the moment. What makes it even harder is they have to share their sole territory with Sony.

[socomnick]

I agree I owned both Ps1 and Ps2 but sony isnt getting my money for the ps3. Xbox 360 is the best console I have ever owned.

[LastDance]

you mean best consoleS<<<<
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[crunchie101]

I think GTA4 will sell more copies on 360, but GTA4 will sell more PS3s than 360s

[power of Green]

Nah. marketing, possible bundles, price drops, a sense of what comming for the 360 by the time this game launches will change everything.

[skitzoid]

I do believe it will sell significantly more consoles for the PS3. Most people that wanted a 360 got one for Gears, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Oblivion, etc...

This is a known game for Sony. Although anyone that follows gaming knew for 2 years this was coming to the 360 it made it's fame on the Playstation.

This is the first big system selling title (excluding COD4. he knew that game was going to be that successful) for Sony. Then again it's just one of many to that is coming this year for Sony.

[whoelse]

Probably more on 360 because of bigger install base, more advertising and the extra content.

There's no reason to choose the PS3 version over the 360 if you own both consoles.

[nicholascage24]

eg pes and fifa in europe last year. ps3 had half the userbase of x360 during the time when they were launched .

brand preferences dont change overnight. you will see some xbx--360 conversions but you will see more ps2--ps3 conversions

[PlayStation360]

I own both consoles, yet I will get the PS3 version. I prefer the controls, more of my friends own a PS3 (multiplay), and since I don't have the Gold Subscription at the moment for Live, I can not take full advantage of the multiplayer function on the 360 version.

[actas123]

You are right if the "extra content" on 360 are free. I personally believe this game will sell well on both systems only if Microsoft does a great job advertising it. Otherwise, it will be a PlayStation only hit.

[aggh im on fire]

But Fifa only sells in Europe. Gta sell well in Europe but much much more in the US and considering the number of 360s there to Ps3's it will sell more there.
Besides just about every multi format title has sold better on the 360 worldwide.

[nicholascage24]

LTD of each version of gta will only be determined by the coversions. It is extremely likely that a new ps3 owner would be purchasing it when he makes the conversion from ps2.

nfs pro street also sold more on ps3.

most multiplat games sold more on x360 since it had a bigger userbase and ps3's one was almost nothing at the beginning
13 million vs 4 million is not the same as 23 million vs 20 million.

[Anything but Cute]

by heavily marketing a multi platform game. Thanks for revealing the plan. Good luck surprising Sony now.

[CaliGamer]

What happened to you bro, I remember you would take the opportunity to bash Sony at every turn, then I didn't see you a while and now you lean more toward Sony. Not that I mind, I'm just curious to know what took place???

[mintaro]

does it really matter which console sells the most?
i say be happy that it's on both consoles, and be happy that we all have the chance to play it

[Spike47]

the xbox360 has a two times the install base of the ps3 because it has been out longer. So obviously just because of that the xbox360 shoukd sell more. Not to mention it has exclusive dlc content, though I beleve Rockstar will also give the ps3 users Dlc content just not really as exclusve as the dlc conetent on the xbox360.

If the Ps3 version does better it's gonna be yet another shock and another victory for Sony against all odds.

Now, does it matter which version sells more? Maybe, I mean halo3 did'nt help the xbox360 beat the ps3 in 2007 sooo...

but the ps3 has to catach up so gta4 may help the xbox360 sell more and widen the gap.

though I don't think the xbox360 wil widen sales in us with mgs4 and a bunch of other titles on the ps3.

We'll have to see for ourselves when gta4 comes out, BUT GUESS WHAT, I WON'T BE ON N4G BASHING ANY CONSOLES, I'M GONNA BE PLAYING GTA4!!!!!!!!! NOT MAKING VIDEOS COMPARING THE TWO VERSIONS.

[Whoooop]

It's amazing how a BIG deal Microsoft is making out of a multiplatform game release.

AGAIN I say... A useless one.

360 momentum got slapped by the PS3 selling more units in 2007 with (PLEASE read carefully) HALO3, ME and Bioshock. Three games which were praised as the PS3 doom. These games did very well and still couldn't outsell the PS3 in its FIRST year.

Now 360 fans are trying top give us the same medicine about a multiplatform game???? because it has some extra missions that they're gonna have to pay for???

The bus has left the 360 in 2007.

There's nothing MS can do with GTA4 that could stop the PS3 momentum and massive line-up this year.

The 360 will sell more copies of GTA4 just like it did with COD4.. Apart from that?? Nothing drastic will happen.

People are going to buy the game for both consoles, the hype will vanish and in the end more people will buy PS3's because it actually has A LOT to look forward in 2008 and 2009.

It didn't work with HALO what makes you guys think it will work with a multiplatform game??

[PirateThom]

That's a very sensible point. I think it's safe to say it's something both Microsoft and the fanboys wish wasn't true, but, alas, it is.

It's sad when the game you're hyping for 2008 is day and date with the PS3 version.

[Skaterboy Tell Em]

I couldnt have said it better myself

[nicholascage24]

but just watch out for DMC4 sales.it will sell more on ps3 worldwide.
GTa4 is not like cod4.gta is a name synonymous with playstation brand .yes the x360 version might sell more in na but ps3 version will make more conversions

again gta4 is as big in europe as it is in US and i have a feeling that it will sell more in europe this gen because of the increased purchasing power of the europeans. in europe people will be choosing the ps3 version and theres no doubt about that. Some might bring up UK but even in UK ps3 and x360 sales are not distant apart. in fact burnout sold almost as good on the ps3 as x360 (51 :49 last week).

There is every possibility that gta4 will end up selling more worldwide on ps3

[TheMART]

Well... Maybe because the PS2 only start selling untill GTA was released back then???

It seems GTA is drawing such a large amount of people into a console, that the best and most optimal GTA version could make a big difference.

Not only that, there is one extra major advantage this year on the 360: Gears of War 2

Gears 1 sold over 5 mln. copies to about 10 mln. users little more then a year back, with a massive Christmas 2006 sale for the 360 back then.

But GTA does make a difference, and two massive episodic content downloads isn't the same like for the PS3 downloading extra underwear for the main character in GTA. Real fans will jump into the 360 with the most complete GTA version period.

Although the fact that the PS3 may have sold about even with the 360, it's still 9 mln. units behind. It didn't catch up at all. And what will happen when the 360 (premium) drops its price to 279 to 299 soonish?

MS starts something to become nr. 1. They did with browsers, they did with their OS, they did with instant messengers, they're doing it in the console market.

[velaxun]

Dude, what are you talking about? #1 with browsers? Have you never heard of Firefox or Opera? The Firefox userbase is almost on par with IEs, that should be saying something right there. Don't even get me started on OS's, the only reason I still use Windows is because Mac's don't have game support and I'm too damned lazy to figure out Linux. Yes, GTA IV will sell more on the 360, but like GoW, Halo 3, Mass Effect and Bioshock, it won't even dent the PS3's sales because of the SAME DAY RELEASE DATE.

[IntelligentAj]

While there is alot to disagree with in the Mart's comment the IE userbase is much larger than Firefox. Most companies and average users use IE(which I think is sh$$) because it's included in windows and is easy to use. Also most people don't want to take the time to optimize Firefox(though it's extremely easy). That being said a couple of extra episodes and Gears of War 2 will not stem the momentum of the PS3 with FF13 and GT5 coming out. And i'm not even going to mention God of War 3 which will probably sell at least 6-7 million.

[SUP3R]

Do you proof read your posts?

Anyway, all that rambling about Microsoft was done through illogical thinking so I won't take the time to discuss all that crap.
However, the only thing I wanted to point out was...who the hell cares about Gears of War 2 besides the current xbox360 owners?
How can you stack up Gears of War 2 to the PS3's lineup of games??
Before when I was on the market for a console, I thought about it for awhile and I mean a long time before I decided which I would get first.
The one and only game I wanted on the 360 was Halo 3, but when compared to the games I'm use to and love to play on the Playstation, especially Final Fantasy games, the 360 just doesn't cut it.
If Gears of War 2 is the only game you can put up as a defense for the 360, it fails horribly.

[Brixxer600]

As i said it's not about winning, Ms just has to increase it's brand awareness. MS are here to stay in the console market and this is another franchise which has made it onto their platform, it's not just about now, MS will be looking to the future, beyond this generation.

The more huge titles like this they can get, the more people will take notice next time around, MS aren't just about this generation, they need devs like Rockstar to bring their big-hitters on board and they have, if GTA4 sells well on 360 then they've set out to do what they wanted, which is CREATE BRAND AWARENESS and bring a traditionally big selling Playstation franchise over to the 360.

[Psynapt1k]

No 1 in Browsers - yup, we all know how they got to be No1 ! - they included it IN WINDOWS! - I think we might have a problem here with GTA - seems to me that we have a problem again and that Microsoft might just be pulling the shots on the development of the game.....Seems like us PS3 owners might get the shortend of the stick! - M$ DID pay enough money for it! - I just hope that the PS3 will have a fair chance in the development phase...

[ROCCOZILLA]

all 360 does is mess up all games for the PS3.its holding the PS3 real power back.if GTA was on PS3 only it would have better grafics and hd sound,but because its on both systems is still 360 looking.LEAVE US ALONE XBOX,GO BACK TO WERE YOU BELONG....2007!P L A Y B 3 Y O N D !

[Gaara_724]

u hit the nail on the head wana know youre prize.. it a bubble whoo hoo hopefully now u can get 2 instead of 1 lol

[Bill Gates]

I see it now. All the BABOONS running out like the sheep/BABOONS that they are, and buying this game just to try and have it sell more on their shietbox360.......AHAHAHHAHAHH AHA

Face it BABOONS, this is PS3 game, and ALWAYS will be. You BABOONS and just getting a taste of what's to come for GTA5, which will be EXCLUSIVE for the PS3. None of this, holding back the game cause of the 360......AAAHAHHAHHAHAHHHHAHHH HAHAHHAHAHA

This game could have been so much better, but the 360 is now is the way so it needs to be held beck from what the devs really wanted to achieve.

[actas123]

Thats actually very funny.. considering coming from Bill Gates mouth himself.. lol.. Bubbles for u sir.

[Gaara_724]

honistly dont get it he dont care about 360 hez a sony man all the way just coz they invented the 360 dont meen they persnaly like it well if i was the desinger when i get the 33#5 reported failer rate note i would ave hung my self and u know what with thats right the 360 power brick cable (jump tightens brick hits me on head cozin me 2 passout there its painless... lol unless my plan goes rrod stiyle)

[Salvadore]

Both versions are going to sell great on respective systems.

[Raptors]

How is anyone possibly disagreeing with you????? Some people take this console war far too seriously.

[jamesrocks3147]

some of those owners will REALLY WANT THIS GAME and 2 play it they need a xbox or ps3 personally... i think they will go for a ps3 because they know how good the ps2 was this is sonys big advantage they have alot of the gaming market just not in the next genn era YET

[PSWe60]

not only to I agree with you, but I also fully endorse your comment

[medziarz]

i think MS is giving a hint about a price-cut in april and maybe a bundle - who knows what that $50M deal is really about - just the episodic content for that kind of money is unreal

[GrammarPolice]

This is asinine. It's like two neighbors trying to outdo each other with Christmas decorations in the yard. At the end of the day, you go in your house and enjoy what you have. I would hate to go through my life envious of what the other guy has when what I have would make me happy regardless.

I hope PS3 owners have a blast with their version. I hope Xbox 360 guys have a blast as well. PC guys? Have a blast. Hell, if it comes to Wii, I hope they have a blast.

Love the one you're with. Don't waste time arguing about the margins.

[velaxun]

for you man. Well said

[aggh im on fire]

Actually im looking forward to more games on the 360 rather than the PS3 his year. Not really a MGS fan but might pick up the new GT if they sort out some of the niggles. Like the look of the new Resistance and Heavy Rain though. As for GTA i will be picking it up for the 360 as multi format games seem to be better on that format.

[DTClown]

do you want to have to change your GTA DVD disc to disc 2 or 3 everytime you go from one burrough to another or have one seemless experience thanks to BluRay?

[aggh im on fire]

Eh no. Because its a fact. Orange box / Rainbow 6 etc. The 360 versions are better, the reviewers know it, the gamers know it.
I am not bashing the ps3, i love uncharted and resistance just saying. Jeez...
You obviously have no intelligence resorting to stupid comments like that. And just for the record i think it was your mum giving him head.

[IzKyD1331]

im a sony fanboy, but im still in touch with reality, im not gonna make a fanboy statement like "PS3 will still own in sales, PS3 FTW", no, its pretty much guaranteed that GTA 4 will sell more on the 360 due to the fact that the 360 has a larger install base, but i can bet that the "exclusive content" microsoft is promising isnt going to be as good as their hyping it up for, MS basically needs that bonus that will make the 360 version better when its really not, shane kim is making some bold statements saying "the 360 version is the better one"
BUT the PS3 will 100% dominate the 360 when it comes to the european market

[Gaara_724]

when it come to japan ummm 100% in europe im thinkin 10,000,000% in favor of ps3 in japan lol

[IzKyD1331]

im a sony boy, but im still in touch with reality, im not gonna make a blind statement like "PS3 will still own in sales, PS3 FTW", no, its pretty much guaranteed that GTA 4 will sell more on the 360 due to the fact that the 360 has a larger install base, but i can bet that the "exclusive content" microsoft is promising isnt going to be as good as their hyping it up for, MS basically needs that bonus that will make the 360 version better when its really not, shane kim is making some bold statements saying "the 360 version is the better one"
BUT the PS3 will 100% dominate the 360 when it comes to the european market

[DJ]

We still don't know what's going to be in the exclusive downloadable content for the 360 and PS3 versions. I know the 360's getting Episodic content, but what's the PS3 version getting. Episodic content as well?

[The Dark Knight]

ill be getting it both on 360 and ps3,

so its a win win situation for me:P

[CaliGamer]

And a lose, lose for your wallet. Why in the world would you get both? Doesn't make sense but I'm sure Rockstar will thank you.

[The Dark Knight]

well i bought my friends flashed 360... sooo im only paying for one game, does that make better sense now :)

[undacovabrothe]

Mayhem will be in every1 houses being played on Ps3. GTA4 is a game that appeals to the casual gamer. The majority of casual gamers are ps fans meaning if they havent converted to a ps3 yet then they will if they want to get their hands on gta4. Sure the people who already have 360 will pick up gta4 and salivate over it but it wont move systems for them. They will sell based on the install base they have while the ps3 will sell based on current install base and new comers.

Also like article said GTA4 is popular in Europe so thats a given that it will sell a shyt load of systems there and widen the gap even more there.

-- Also I dont think ps3 sold more units than 360 in 2007 but around the same. Them numbers Sony gave out showed that they sold 7mil units around in 2007 and 3 mil units 2006. Even though we didnt oustell 360 pretty bad on 360 side if we already have more than half their base (16mil) and they supposedly had the greatest line-up in gaming history which is total bs, because ps2 gave like 10 good games a year while the 360 gave like 3. --

[IzKyD1331]

GTA 4 appeals to the casual gamer? i think you better get your facts right, if GTA4 appeals to the casual gamer, then it would be on the wii, not the ps360... the GTA series appeals to hardcore gamers, not casual

[DJ]

"We have to work really hard to make people understand that no, it's not [a playstation franchise], and that you'll actually get a greater experience on Xbox 360."

It's actually a longer experience, not "greater" since that's too subjective due to the fact that it's just additional episodes, not upgraded content that can be seen on the PS3. He also makes little mention of the fact that 360 owners need to spend money on Xbox Live in order to play those episodes. If I was in charge of Microsoft's gaming division, I would have capitalized on that exclusivity and released that episodic content for free. That would give users a greater incentive to purchase the 360 version over the PS3 version.

[Chitown71291]

I'm a Sony fanboy and I stand by that proudly let me just say that by the time GTA 4 comes out the ps3 will have had a 100 price drop out along side the most antipated ps3 exclusive title this year MGS4 baby. Now if u are a PS2 (remember that's a 130 million PS2's out there) now is the time if ever to buy a PS3 NOW!!!!!!!!!!! dude at $300 and two of the year's biggest titles that PS2 owners have been waiting for to make the transiston to the PS3 dude GTA 4 will sell wonders on the PS3 plus add the fact the it is known on playstation!!! Exclusive conwhat!!!!!! Larger install what!!!!! Dude grow up and play b3yond!

[Figboy]

25 million people bought X Boxes for games like Halo, KOTOR, Fable, PGR, etc.

120 million + people bought Playstation 2s for games like MGS, Final Fantasy, GoW, Ratchet and Clank, Jak, Sly Cooper, Gran Turismo, and of course, GTA.

so far, the same people that bought the X Box for the above games, are buying X Box 360s (ie, Halo 3, Fable 2, Mass Effect).

so far, only a fraction of the hardcore Playstation 2 fanbase have moved on to the Playstation 3, because the console was too expensive, and out of the classic franchises i mentioned above, only Ratchet and Clank has hit. Playstation 2 gamers are simply *WAITING for Gran Turismo, MGS, Final Fantasy, God of War, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, and of course, something as huge as GTAIV to hit their console.

i own GTA3, Vice City, and San Andreas on my Playstation 2. it's only reasonable to expect that i'll complete the series on the Playstation 3. for the same reason that those DMC fans who own DMC 1-3 on the Playstation 2 would buy DMC4 on the Playstation 3: it's simply what they know, and are familiar with.

diving more into the DMC4 thing, there are really no advantages/disadvantages to purchase the game on either system.

the 360 version has rumble and achievements.
the PS3 version has rumble and "accomplishments."

no difference other than the controller, and that's a matter of preference.

for millions of Playstation owners out there, the PS controller is more comfortable for games like MGS and GTA, just like for X Box fans, the X Box and 360 controller are more comfortable to them.

another example, is the Splinter Cell series. as a hypothetical, what if Splinter Cell: Conviction, came to the PS3 as well as the 360? personally, i'd *STILL buy the 360 version, because Splinter Cell is *KNOWN as an X Box franchise. it's simply a matter of history.

there are millions of Playstation 2 gamers out there that are waiting for a GTA, MGS, and FF to hit the Playstation 3 before they drop their $400 on it. last year, they held off because of the high number of unfamiliar franchises (that were constantly being nit-picked to low scores and harsh critiques by jaded reviewers, still pissed that the PS3 was over $400). i mean, can you *BLAME them? regardless of price, *WHY would you have bought a Playstation 3 last year, when everytime you look up a PS3 game that seemed interesting to you, it's being torn to shreds by the gaming press?

regardless of how good the games actually are (ie, Ratchet and Clank, Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, Motorstorm, NGSigma, UT3, and Uncharted are *ALL excellent games that didn't get enough credit for the their numerous positives, which heavily outweighed their negatives; Uncharted was the only one that the gaming press begrudgingly had to admit was top AAA quality. every other game on my list, they had to dig pretty deep find some complaints: "Heavenly Sword is too short!" "Motorstorm doesn't have enough modes!" "Ninja Gaiden Sigma is just a remake!" "Warhawk is online only!" "UT3 is better on the PC...just because!" "Resistance doesn't look like Gears of War, even though the single player mode is fun, and the online is nearly flawless!" "Ratchet and Clank Future has too much variety!" "Folklore is too Japanese!" and so on and so forth), after reading such constant negativity, i'd have shied away from the PS3 *TOO.

but this year, that's another story. the franchises that PS2 fans have been clamoring for are finally coming, and here. franchises that began on Playstation consoles (ie, GTA, MGS, DMC, etc). regardless of multi-platform status, these franchises mean a lot to Playstation fans. do you think Playstation 2 fans *CARE that GTA, DMC, RE, etc, are coming to the 360? we don't. personally, i'm glad X Box owners are getting to enjoy what Playstation fans have been clamoring about for over a decade now. i'm glad that these companies are able to continue making great games, as the changes in the market and development costs have made it harder (not *IMPOSSIBLE) to release exclusives.

most multi-platform games i'm picking up on my PS3, *ESPECIALLY the multi-plat titles that are sequels to games i own on my PS2 (ie, DMC4, RE5, MGS4, GTAIV, Final Fantasy, etc).

[DJ]

Accomplishments, as well as background tracking of all my friend's accomplishments. It's great to see that even though the release of HOME is still TBA, developers are able to implement HOME-related rewards prior to that release.

And it has sucked that the media spent the entire year digging for negative accusations to make against the PS3 and its games. Hell, we had member TopGamer/Elite24Gamer constantly stating how horrible PS3 games were, that he beat Heavenly Sword in four hours, Motorstorm in 2 hours, blah blah blah. Now the media has done a complete 180 and turned on the 360, and i know from experience that 360 fans are going to start feeling the pinch. I saw the exact same thing happen to Dreamcast fans, and it wasn't fun to watch. Seriously.

The Wii has gotten away with being less powerful than its MS and Sony counterparts since it was advertised from day 1 as just a turbo-charged Gamecube. No biggy, and I still like the Wii.

Microsoft on the other hand has spent the past two and a half years telling both journalists and gamers alike that the 360 and PS3 are "a wash in terms of power", and even published a document claiming that the 360 is in fact vastly more powerful than the PS3 (this was right after E3 2005, and they have since refused to comment on that publication).

Journalists LOVE to start drama, and there's no bigger potential than to call B.S. on Microsoft's claims and post comparison after comparison of how superior PS3 titles are. If Gears of War 2 fails to live up to even one aspect of Resistance 2, whether it be graphics, physics, lighting, or number of players online, Microsoft (not Epic Games) is going to get a lot of flack. And that's just one example.

[IzKyD1331]

i have to agree, the gaming press really didnt give the good PS3 titles the credit they deserved, everytime game critics found little problems, they blew them out of proportion

[altimako02]

the games are going to be the same on both consoles. but 360 has got achievements personal music and my preferred controller. i hate ignorant fanboys who have an allegiance to a console stronger than one to their spouse

[sonyfanonly]

THERES NO POINT IN DENYING THAT GTA 4 WILL HELP BOTH CONSOLES BUT THE ONE TO PUSH CONSOLES IS THE PS3 BECAUSE I KNOW ALL THOSE PEOPLE WITH AN XBOX DIDNT BUY IT FOR GTA 4 THEY BOUGHT IT FOR HALO AND THERES ALOT MORE PEOPLE WAITING FOR GOOD GAMES TO COME OUT ON THE PS3 BEFORE BUYING ONE AND WITH GTA 4 MGS 4 GT 5 RESISTANCE 2 KILLZONE 2 GOD OF WAR 3 FINAL FANTASY 13 SOCOM 5 LITTLE BIG PLANET ALL THESE IS ENOUGH REASON TO BUY A PS3 AND IF YOU DONT THINK SO THEN YOU ARE A BLIND FANBOY THAT JUST NEEDS TO PLAY HALO ALL THE TIME

[360_Rules]

Achivements. Yeah that is going to be great trying to get all of them. That is the reason the 360 version is going to outsell the PS3 version.

[360CameFromHell]

OMFG!!!

You xbots are f@#ingg ignorants, we are talking about the possibility the game will move more consoles and end up selling better, what does that have to do with achievements??? People will play GTA for achievements?????

Wait until Sony comes up on GDC announcing Home coming right after GTA and some special content for it, then I wanna know people remember about those stupid points.

[360_Rules]

Oh and I forgot Rumble. So you PS bots have to buy a new controller to match the 360 version. That is going to cost you $110. LMFAO you sure like bending over for Sony!!!!!

[meepmoopmeep]

DMC4 has the achievement rig for PS3 and you can bet future games will as well... they've already started implementing custom soundtracks for PSN games so that will also be in future games. don't be surprised if GTA4 has both features on the PS3

[she00win99]

it doesn't matter if the 360 version of the game outsold the ps3 version because MS paid a huge amount of money for the advertising and the exclusive downloadable content of the game that in the end they won't make a profit..

[Clinton514]

GTA IV will most likely sell more on 360..by how much. Who knows?!

Will it cause the 360 to instantly topple the "next-gen" scale, lol most def. not. One game, especially a simultaneously released multiplat isn't going to do that.

Anyone who believes so is fooling themselves.

[marcdz1]

I will personally get this on the PS3. Why? Because the Playstation Brand had the game first. Besides I don't want to be playing it on my 360 only to get the RROD for a second time. That would totally suck having to wait just to play the game. On another note, they better start shipping those DS3 (DualShock3 controllers) because without them the game will not be the-same. Thank god I got mine already. Someone needs to get ahold of marketing at SONY because this game should be announced on tv since yesterday and we also need a petition for the DS3 to be released in the U.S.A. and finally let us have home before the game comes out so devs can take advantage of it and us also (drools)

[undacovabrothe]

I know the DS3 will be out around the time Haze is released for sure I heard sony is making sure all devs start implementing the features and are building up a huge stock of them so they have enough for the masses. We should see the DS3 within 2-3 months max. For sure out when gta is out.

[360CameFromHell]

If GTA IV is going to sell consoles, those will be PS3.

If you have a LAST GEN console and you love GTA you are going to invest your money on a console that will bring you more than just GTA IV, PS3 has a great exclusive lineup for 2008 (MGS4, GT5, KZ2, LittleBP, Home etc...) and that will be a extra bonus to bring people to PS3 instead of 360 (considering GTA IV motives only).

[Xbox is the BEST]

one of the biggest franchises in video gaming history won't sell well on the 360?

[moparful99]

Nobody is disputing the fact that this will sell well on the 360. What is being disputed is microsofts claim that they will "own" the launch. That statement is arrogant and I wouldnt be surprised if it bit them in the ass..

[Xbox is the BEST]

day one on the 360. Can't comment on the PS#3

[darkshiz]

Whatever all you do is talk shiet about PS3 anyways.

[Xbox is the BEST]

that your best?

[The Killer]

there is 100+ million ps2 owners out there waiting for good price and good games to come to ps3! GTA4 is one of those reason, and i think its a good reason for ps3 to drop the price if MS did also!

u will see more impact on ps3 sale than 360 sale, many people bought 360 for halo 3 which i played for 20 minutes then i left the game(boring) and other shooter games but not for GTA4 or DMC4!

in software sales i think they both will be around the same!

360 is a dieing console, but its doing it slow and taking more people with it his time then last time!

[SRuN4]

Microsoft better cover themselves on this one. They keep saying "The better experience is on the X360" and have yet to say "Hey you'll need a HDD in your machine so dont buy a Core SKU and you'll need a XBL account." They have yet to do that (as far as I've seen). In the end, I think they're gonna piss off the average consumer that walks into the store, buys into this extra content spin and walks away with a Core system and no XBL subscription. Then when the content releases and they hear about it but find out they dont have the right stuff to get it they'll be angry. But then again at that point what does it matter? Microsoft already got the sale out of the person so they are no more use to them.

[pshizle]

360 has the bigger install base therefore it will sell more than the ps3

[DJ]

The real question though is "By How Much." The install bases of both consoles is getting fairly close, so it'd be very interesting to see how far Sony and Microsoft will be willing to go to convince people to get the ____ version of GTA.

The guy in front of me at Gamestop the other day changed his pre-ordered DMC copy from the 360 version to the PS3 version on the spot. Now prior to then I didn't even realize that this was possible. Magazines and Game Site reviews are going to have a huge influence, especially if there is a major difference between the two versions, i.e. loading time, graphics, etc.

[Spike47]

it will, it has to.

But the idea is WHO CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What did halo3 do for the xbox360? ALOT, BUT DID IT BEAT THE PS3 IN 2007?Nope.

So what will a multiplatform game do? Nothing.

Any small sales the xbox360 gains with gta4 will be made up for by mgs4 and then soe, cause mgs4 sells around the world not just in the U.S.

Then GT5 will drop in and so will FF13 and so will many other IPS like Little Bigplanet.

READ: THEmart stated that the xbox360 had gears of war 2 in his last comment.

When I read this I thought wether he was in denial or he was not well informed.

Let me say this again: IF HALO3 WAS'NT ENOUGH, THEN GEARS OF WAR 2 WON'T BE ENOUGH EITHER.

And I know the Ps3 has to catch up, it's definetly possible.

[Xbox is the BEST]

both systems still are not mass market price.

[Nathaniel_Drake]

The PS3 sales of the system last year worldwide still beat the 360 which might mean just hardcore presently acquired 360 owners bought the break out games like Halo 3, and Mass Effect, don't get me wrong these games did sale consoles, but this trend makes you think that there are people still on the fence on which system to buy

Is Gears of War 2, Final Fantasy XIII, MGS4, Too Human, and others going to do it? Is the PS3 going to pick up where it left off from last gen, or 360 add to its hardcore or causal install base?

This is the theme to 2008! Let's just call it the HD war, can't wait!!!

P.S. I am not including the Wii because its in another universe, as in not as much a part of the console war but part of different experience

[Nathaniel_Drake]

I don't know does having more games tailored to hardcore audiences actually win you the console war, or does having many games tailored to everyones taste help you win.

Isn't Sony covering all bases this year for many genres?

Shooter:
Killzone 2
Resistance 2

Action/Adventure:
Metal Gear Solid 4

RPG:
Final Fantasy XIII
White Knight Story

Hmmm...What genre would you put for Little Big Planet

I know there's more to cover, but what I am getting at is GTA series has a big following but saying that this game will cement who will win this gen is just ludicrous.

Each of the games I mentioned are very popular amongst gamers and in the past have been played by many people, yeah some have cult followings but that is just growing.

So my question is how can one game truly decide the fate of either console right now?

[CallOfWar22]

dont care who wins or loses. I just want gears 2. N I'll smack 129 in a sec for the legendary edition w/ chainsaw.

[The Dude]

I am purchasing GTA4 for the 360 with rumble and the exclusive content its the best choice.

[JVIDICAN]

ps3 has rumble and enjoy paying $10-25 per episode.
microsoft has to make back the 50mil somehow =P

[xg-ei8ht]

I think ppl will just buy gears now because they liked the first game(graphics at first, then story) But from what i've seen of the unreal engine. I'm not guessing its going to have anything graphically. I do like the shaders used in gears and ut3.

Gta will sell well on both systems, but its one game. And thats all.

The other thing i'm wondering.

Burnout paradise is 40fps on 360
Yet 60fps on ps3.

How will gta be?

More physics, more ppl, more going on, i'm sorry but the ps3 would win that without breaking sweat.

Cell owns all

It'd be a good thing to remember that last statement.

[LastDance]

Yeah but being a multi plat game...these people dont spend the time utilizing it.

thats what happened to most early multi plat games.

I havent got enough money to spend on all these gamse and i think alot of other ps3 owners would agree.

so i cant afford GTA4.. .

But i think this will be the best game coming out on xbox so every1 will buy into it.

[batman2million]

The GTA market is big in US than it is in Japan. And everyone knows that the 360 software sells a whole lot more than the ps3's does. Call of Duty on 360 sold more and it was one of the biggest, and best, games of 07.

so i think the 360 has an upper hand here.

[undacovabrothe]

hmm lol maybe 360 will really out due ps3 on this title I mean they will have nothing else to look forward to when it comes out they prob will be salivating at GTA like starved dogs.

But the part about them not utilizing the ps3 I think rockstar made sure they did a good enough job on the ps3 version on a article today the ppl who played through it said it was running really smooth and most likely rockstar didnt just twiddle their dumbs while they delayed gta4 so I know the ps3 version will be top notch.

Also I could care less about some xtra content as long as its not free I dont give a dam.

Edit: Batman yea japan might not be a factor but Europe will fill that void.

[JokerSGS]

If people find out about the extra content for the 360 then it will easily sell more here in the USA. Also to the individual who said GTA is a casual game, in all seriousness it really is. Most people don't collect all the hidden packages and do every rampage mission. I've gotten 100% in everyone and by doing that the "hardcore" element of the game is seen. But most people just put in as many cheats as possible and than play the game barely beating the missions and call it a day. It's almost like Super Smash Bros Melee and how majority of the people out there play it with weapons on and know nothing of wave dashing and other more in depth techniques.

[moparful99]

Do you know wat casual games are? It has nothing to do with how you fill your time, its how much time you spend with a game. Causual games are games that people play for 15-20 minutes at a time. A majority of people that play gta spend hours at a time with it whether its the missions, collecting, side missions, playing around the city etc.. etc.. etc. Hardcore game have depth, things that extend play time well beyond its intial core game. Good try though.

[sanjay09]

PS3 version will have more sale than 360 World Wide but it will probably sell less than 360 in NA but it ps3 version will still win

[SKUD]

Considering that the X360 version of the game will have the "HDD Required" label that leaves the core users out on getting the "Full experience". For PS3 users all they have to do is just purchase the game. Up side for the PS3. No need to check if you have enough storage space.

[The Dude]

Good point..... I forgot the xbox 360 core owners cant add the hard drive later.

[moparful99]

King it just kills you whenever somebody makes a good point doesnt it? You have responded on these topics more then anyone else I have ever seen yet you throw the "FANBOY" label around like its a bumper sticker.
There is only a small percentage of games that require an install on the ps3. You keep blowing this issue out of proportion and its getting old. Ninja gaiden is a great example of how its done right, the instal is like 5 minutes and it nearly eliminates load times... Just because capcom screwed it up and made a 20 minute install that barely justifies itself doesnt give you the license to run around spewing this mis-information.

[Infernus]

I remember just a few months ago that whenever an article like this came up with an exec trying to beef up their console it turned into a fight over what was said rather than the actual point behind it.

Last year it was a case of whenever an MS employee said things to promote the console or a game on the console it'd be fine and the 'fanboyism factor' was low, but if someone from Sony said anything even remotely like the statements in this article there'd be some form of virtual riot in the comments section (pushing 150 posts). I'm glad to see that people have started actually talking about what was said and what it was about rather than who said it.

Anyway onto the article, GTA is a franchise that was born on the PC but was always destined for console success. It's still available for the PC and the mod community is alive and well for the previous games but it's been associated with the PlayStation for so long that those with PS2's (expecially those that have had all the other GTAs on Sony machines) won't move to the 360 lightly, it'll take some doing.

Lets look through the pros and cons for each console in terms of the attractiveness of the game for that system, starting with what's been suggested as the console providing the 'greatest' experience, the 360:

Pros
-Exclusive Episodic DLC
-Achievements

Cons
-Exclusive Episodic DLC will cost.
-Need XBL account.
-Need HDD.
-Not familiar territory for the franchise.

Now for the PS3:

Pros
-The Playstation is associated with GTA
-The hardware can handle more on-screen action

Cons
-No exclusive DLC content.
-No achievements (yet?)

Now it's not a case of good points Vs the bad because the 360's DLC carries more collective weight than it's cons. However, it is likely that the PS3 version will provide the smoothest ride through Liberty. Burnout Paradise proved that with the right touch the PS3 can outperform the 360 FPS-wise, will GTA4 go the same way?

It's actually tougher than I thought it would be to decide the 'winner' here. To be perfectly honest I think the 360 version will sell more but only because there are more 360 owners. I don't think GTA4 will make Ps2 owners say "Look GTA4 is on the 360 with more content lets get a 360!", they'll be saying "GTa4 has more content on the 360, but I want MGS4 FFXIII etc".

One game can't sway an entire fanbase and that's where Shane Kim has missed the point completely. He mentions GTAIII being the huge game that propelled the PS2 to stardom and how GTA4 could do the same for the 360, what he fails to see from the comparison here is that GTAIII was only out for the PS2 and PC with the console gamers moving to PS2 since there was no where else to go. With GTA4 there are two choices and it's no where near as clear cut as the GTAIII situation was.

Time will tell... I see many PS2 owners looking to move up to the PS3/360 plateau, will it be GTA4 that sways them to make the move? And to which console?

[joeynox]

I'm getting it on the 360 but I dont like that the content is being delivered 6months after releasse the 6 months after that. Should be 3 monthst then 3moths because getting ectra content 6-12 months isnt going to help sales

[UziSuicide]

Re the rumours surrounding free content on day 1, has anyone actually read the article? The MS guy is pretty clear and it's his opinion that the exclusive episodes will cause everyone to jump on the 360 version, that's it. He is quite clear in what is said, not sure how people can make much more out of it to be honest.

I've never really thought of GTA as having a good story, they usually start off well but go a bit lah lah half way through, it's isn't really the reason I play the series. Seeing as both consoles are getting DLC I'm happy, all extra episodes are going to add is more story and while that'd be 'nice' it isn't really my focus for the series.

Also the news of MS having the extra episodes is pretty old, when I bought my PS3 I was fully aware of it. I'm a great fan of GTA and I did buy a console partly to play it on, but everything considered I still went with the PS3, so don't know if 'owning the launch' will mean much in the long run.

It's one mans opinion, a man that happens to be working for the company he is promoting.

[edit] One problem I do have with statements like this (coming from either Sony or MS) is that they take the focus off the actual game, which I think is a bit of a shame. Means pre release forum discussions are going to be a lot of platform vs. platform rather than about the game itself.

[OC Shock Value]

I would like to take this time out appologize to XBOX 360 fans on this site for the disrespect ive shown the system lately.. I have owned a 360 since launch and have been thru it all.. I have fallen into the hype like many others and began to FLAME.. i have had some great times on the system so i dont know what happened.. my n4g name is my LIVE gamer tag so hit me up on there..

PS i can and will murder u losers in Halo

[altimako02]

i like both systems. CANT WII JUST GET ALONG

[chrisin3]

is a great series, but it is definitely NOT the only big release to come out this year. You can't conveniently leave out games like MGS4, Killzone 2, LBP, Final Fantasy, and Resistance 2 when you talk about releases that could decide the war. My opinion is that to say GTA's release could decide the war is a stretch--a rather large one. I do, however, think it's going to be a good indicator of how many of the current PS3 console owners go out and buy the big games. I am undecided which console will have bigger sales for this game. If PS2 owners starting make the switch because of GTA, then the answer is a no-brainer, but we'll have to wait and see.

[kewlkat007]

A.
1.PS2 users decide to get an Xbox 360+ GT4 bundle.
2. Xbox users decide to get a PS3 + GTA4 bundle.

B.
1.Xbox user decides, it's time to upgrade to a 360 and gets GTA4.
2.PS2 users decides it's also time to upgrade to a PS3 with GTA4.

Both A/B will take place but not sure on what scale.

People seem to think just cause you have a gamer with a Xbox or PS2, they will upgrade automatically, well not quite. On the 360's case, it is a much stronger brand then before and still cheaper. On PS3's case you get a Higher-priced console with more goodies.

So what will it come down to? Plenty of factors.

Looking at the Past sale of this game, it move consoles off the shelves. sony might have the edge because of the PS2 user-base unless, they opt to go with a new console and a cheaper box.

[Tyrael]

How can a multiplatform title be the deciding point in console superiority? I thought the best exclusive of a gamin generation was responsible for that...

[Neo604]

sony rule

[Baba1906]

japan and europe are gonna buy the ps3 version. USa probably the 360.

[Marceles]

I agree...it'll be a close sales matchup in my opinion

[Chris_GTR1]

i dont understand why anyone would get the ps3 version over the 360 version. if they actually own both consoles it be stupid to get the ps3 version. 360 has soo many online features the ps3 currently dosent have, achevements, friends list,custom music,the exclusive downloadable content...people getting it for ps3 version are doing it just because they dont own a 360.

[Skaterboy Tell Em]

I dont understand why anyone would get a xbox 360 over the ps3. if they actually have a brain it would be stupid to get the xbox 360.PS3 has so many features the xbox 360 currently dosent have,Blu ray,HDD Standard/more HD space,Cell/RSX,Better game lineup,More reliable console...people getting a xbox 360 are doing it just so sony dont embarress MS again like last generation.

Skaterboy Tell' Em

[Chris_GTR1]

you dumbass i have a ps3. and all the 'features' you just said have absolutely NOTHING to do with GTA. damn moron im talking about GTA here not the console. ps3 so far since i bought it last november has been nothing but crap, UT3 sucks ass, uncharted was a rental. i have to quit the games i rent to read text messages, the online store blows, home got delayed , mgs4 got delayed. the ps3 just sucks soo much i just wana sell it, i just realized KZ2 is gonna suck ass too and retarded fanboys like you make me embarrased to even own a ps3.

[Skaterboy Tell Em]

Haha look at the angry little fanboy lol.If you hate ps3 so much then sell it,But have fun with your xbox 360 gathering dust after gta comes out with MS crap game lineup this year.There is nothing coming out on xbox this year to make me buy one.

[AshleyRiot]

It will sell great on both consoles. And no some DLC won't defeat another console lol.

[UnasFortuna]

I personally don't see the attraction to GTA and thus this fuss everyone makes over it. What exactly is the storyline for this title anyways???? It is only only one title and if Sony cared that much about keeping it on their system...they would have kept it that way by monetary means or whatever. As far as the extra content is concerned that MS has PAID Rockstar for... big deal. Not impressed by what I have seen of what it contains and more than likely... it won't be free. There are not many things that MS gives out free of charge. If I do end up picking up this title... it will be for my PS3 and not my 360. I have become more atuned to the PS3 controller for some reason and prefer it over the heavy handed 360 controller.

[mugoldeneagle03]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but these are the Exclsuive titles on that list:

16) Grid
18) Halo Wars
21) Infinite Undiscovery (Dev by Square Enix. Honestly think it will do well?)
22) Left 4 Dead (Also on PC)
31) Ninja Gaiden II (Rumored for PS3)
46) Too Human

Okay, now compare that to (off the top of my head):

1) Home
2) Killzone 2
3) Resistance FOM: 2
4) Gran Turismo Prologue/Gran Turismo 5
5) MGS4
6) MLB 08 The Show (Laugh, it will be the best Sports Game of 08)
7) Hot Shots Golf
8) Final Fantasy XIII (Pending Release Date)
9) Final Fantasy Versus XIII (Pending Release Date)
10) Singstar
11) Haze
12) LittleBigPlanet
13) Heavy Rain (Pending Release Date)
14) The Agency
15) Eight Days
16) Team Ico's new Project (Pending Release Date)
17) White Knight Chronicles
18) Socom Confrontation
19) Zipper's new Project (Rumored Socom 5)
20) inFamous
21) Jax & Daxter: The Lost Frontier
22) Motorstorm 2 (Why not, Resistance 2 is already coming out..)

And probably more I cant even think of. My point is, there's no denying Sony has by far the best software lineup out of all 3 consoles. Sure, 360 owners will have "games to look forward to" they're just not at all as good as the ones Sony offers.

P.S. The fact that your arguing Saints Row 2 sales compared to both consoles tell's me your not ready for a conversation of this magnitude

[ExLivingGhost]

Grid and Left 4 dead are coming to the PS3 too

[goldenxbox]

gee, whats the matter ?? you talk about microsoft all the time, not what sony is doing !!!

just microsoft 24/7, as though they are the center of your world !!!

worried yet ? the rest of us could care less, we just play all our excellent games on our MICROSOFT console knowing that 2008 is gonna be not only just fine but we're going to dominate ALL OVER A G A I N

"the only thing I wanted to point out was...who the hell cares about Gears of War 2 besides the current xbox360 owners?"

gee, I dunno about that one.....EVERYBODY? it was only the top selling game of all 2006, and it sure as hell didn't sell to just one crowd........sony fanboys you are denying reality itself, if you claim such bullshit...

its like everyone else claiming final fantasy won't sell 5 million copies.....it will...

gears of war sold over 5 million copies to EVERYBODY, and its sold over 6 million now, and is the most talked about game from the whole PC crowd by FAR .....

everyone is talking about just that game, the gears of war 2 in this city, even in this state......as the game that they will get a 360 for

oh sure already sold on halo 3 they barely need a small push....gears of war 2 is a god-damn TIDAL WAVE .....

its the biggest seller of that whole place, is published under the microsoft banner, and is the most CARNAL insanely fun multiplayer game out in years .....

it will sell 360's like its crazy and going out of style, and is a much bigger game than how we say it......metal gear ..

and face it, u have to be realistic...metal gear and gran turismo are the biggest hits for you this year. that's it. they're established big sellers, and final fantasy is 2009............not a day earlier, none of those arrive in 2008

so you have about, 3 real sellers in 2008 since killzone 2 will do average ..... 360 has exactly FIVE (with a sixth surprise)

SPLINTER CELL 5: CONVICTION
HALO WARS
NINJA GAIDEN 2
GEARS OF WAR 2
FABLE 2

bottom lines, plenty of people from the PC & other industry many who only own playstation are waiting for the brand new chapter of splinter cell.....all with episode content, all exclusive as SC5 is for 360 only

then they are also waiting for gears of war 2......they're already sold on halo 3, and gears isn't a light push....its a giant god-damn tidal wave that shoves them over the edge

this year they get a 360, as the RPG crowd also dives in for fable 2.....a huge game...

and that doesn't include too human....the surprise game...from an episode standpoint microsoft owns this year of GTA 4, they all know the exclusive 2 hours/extra episodes will be on 360...they're buying a 360 for it, and just for this alone.....then there's xbox live arcade, xbox marketplace with exclusive GTA 4 episodes, exclusive Mass Effect episodes, DLC, and a ton of xbox arcade titles like TRON......

toss in star wars & the second half of 360 this year will not just pick up, the sales will trounce everything .......!!!

because forza 3 hasn't been announced yet, and they aren't done with the surprises either....they're waiting on purpose, just as we knew, until their games are really AAA polished.....then the bombs drop

ps 3 had an impressive lineup, i admit.... but too bad fanboys, the 360 in the end has just the more impressive lineup !!!

and you'd have to be a total fool to say ng 2 will go to ps3, its published by microsoft games !!! so count on it, never !!! and lost odyssey is as well, the last platform driver ..... the hype for that RPG is building, people are loving it, and it will push the many over the edge which will take up the 360 just this year

and that for just this year ..... don't get arrogant sony boys, remember what that gets you & that not all !!

[GETPWNED]

Now that's a fanboy pwning if I ever saw one. 360 will absolutely dominate this year, just like it did last. Wait B3yond.

[theoneandonly]

How completely banal of you to show your insecurities this early, at least none of us are already declaring we won the console war. You insecure Sony-ites do nothing but declare you won, even when you haven't and your games have yet to materialize.

Did you really need to bask in the glow of this foolishness? I'm presently enjoying another RPG for the 360, and plan to enjoy many more, there's hardly the time to piddle with this nonsense.

Do yourselves a favor and just buy a 360, rather than talking about it all the time. The many exclusives of 2008 are more than satisfactory now. All your friends will be talking about it, and it's a little ignorant to be left out of the crowd don't you think?

The new Falcon boards also have no overheating issues. So choose carefully, the 360 version of GTA4 will be the top seller. Right up next to Gears and Halo Wars after all the dust settles.

[mugoldeneagle03]

SPLINTER CELL 5: CONVICTION (Countered by MGS4, easily)
HALO WARS (Another Halo game MS can use to waste more of your money on)
NINJA GAIDEN 2 (Already have a Ninja Gaiden, This is also rumored for PS3)
GEARS OF WAR 2 (A great game, no doubt)
FABLE 2 (Pending release date, mind you)

Please leave out the software titles. There's no denying Microsoft had a strong 07 lineup, but we're strictly talking about 2008 here. Leave DLC behind (You dont see me mentioning DLC for Motorstorm which came out a year ago). You guys had your year, and now, it's our turn. Also remember that both Epic & Bioware are signed to a two title contract with Microsoft, which means that after the GOW & Mass Effect sequels come out, we'll also see them, along with the third editions of the games. Epic has already shown alliegence to both sides, Bioware will soon do the same.

What it comes down to is this. The Playstation 3 is miles ahead of the 360 in terms of capabilities and hardware. Think about it:

1) Playstation 3 equipped with HDMI from the start - 360 Add on
2) Playstation 3 equipped with WiFi from the start - 360 Add on
3) Playstation 3 equipped with Blu Ray player - 360 Add on (Still $120)
4) Playstation 3 HDD Space on par or better with the 360 HDD drive in terms of price. On top of that, Sony allows users to use Universal HDD's, not company owned ones. Advantage = Sony

And even though Microsoft has finally started to develop 360's that dont burn out, you still have a 33% failure rate.

And the HD-DVD/Blu Ray war. Who cares? Right? It's over. But Blu Ray does make a difference. Do you guys honestly want MGS4 on 2 discs to play like Blue Dragon? If so, have it. That's last gen. As much as I could care less about it, it once again, makes a difference. Blu Ray will win, which means Microsoft will once again make their fans purchase another Blu Ray Add on, just to enjoy a full HD experience. I know of 5 people who own a 360, and all of them have gone on record to saying "If the Playsation 3 had come out first, I would've boughten it hands down. I regret the 360, and cant wait till summer to buy a PS3".

So hardware specs are out of the way yes?

Let's talk about Global Sales. I guess we can start in Japan, where the 360 HAS YET TO SELL 1 MILLION CONSOLES after 2+ years on the market. With Sony already catching up in EU & in NA (See current N4G article about how the PS3 actually outsold the 360 in terms of hardware sales in NA) it wont take much time before Microsoft is in third place. Even major studios like EA are taking Sonys side. EA. A developer who cares about nothing but money and fanbases, are projecting the current console that's in third place to surpass the 360. That's major.

And software? Like I said 360 owners had a great year last year, even I, a major Sony fan, will be more than happy to admit it. But our lineup dwarfs your's. We have more AAA titles coming out, developers are now taking the time to develop on both consoles instead of porting which gives us equal or better games (See Burnout Paradise), BUT THE BIGGEST THING:

***Sony's decision to approve user generated content***

Now I could give a rat's ass whether you care about it or not, but this is huge. This is why EPIC decided to created Unreal Tournament 3 exclusive for the Playstation 3, because Microsoft doesnt enjoy giving out free DLC. They want $ for everything. Think about it, you guys pay $50 a year just to play online. That's complete bullshit. I cant even imagine paying online, no matter how good the service. Now you guys can counter with "It's only $50 bucks, that's not much" or "XBL destroys PSN" but when Home comes out and gives Playstation 3 owners gamertags & achievements, it will be no contest. Same goes with user generated content. Doubters will see. The release of LittleBigPlanet is going to be monumental for the Gaming Industry itself, not just the console war. Sony has given developers the FREEDOM to explore and do what they want, Microsoft doesnt. It's as simple as that.

All in All, Sony is doing the right things at the right time while Microsoft is not. It's going to be the same old story on the Microsoft front. Sony will have a demanding year with great sales and great titles, Microsoft will move to last in the console race (again), and be forced to announce their next console.

Trust me, I understand your insecurities. You guys bought a 360 because at the time it was what was new. Now that its starting to grow outdated and show signs of weekness you have to defend it. I respect that. I did it with my Dreamcast.

My point is, everyone laughed when Sony said the Playstation 3 was in the "10 Year Span", well we're strong into Year 2 and already seeing this much improvement. The Playstation 3 hasnt "won" yet, but they are well on their way. Why not get excited for it?

[goldenxbox]

"Also remember that both Epic & Bioware are signed to a two title contract with Microsoft, which means that after the GOW & Mass Effect sequels come out, we'll also see them, along with the third editions of the games. Epic has already shown alliegence to both sides, Bioware will soon do the same."

you keep living in your sad little delusional world fanboy

microsoft games formally announced that two major bioware projects are THEIR GAMES : and will only appear on 360 . the KOTOR and mass effect

and that was in EGM only two issues back, looks like you don't keep up with the news !!!!

also haze is not exclusive, its already announced for 360 & is not even a big game

360 also hasn't even got done warming up in europe, so you are overly arrogant to think sony just wins in europe . they don't, since none of the big european games and SKUs are out yet !!

hahaha I can't believe u thought those titles were multiplatform !!! buddy your ps3 will get spinoffs, good luck with those "mass effect" spinoffs i'm serious

you will never see the main games at all, and there is no possibility ever of NG 2

want to know why ? its impossible to port NG 2 or the proper mass effect : its OWNED under the microsoft publishing label !!!

hey remember, microsoft owns the first publishing rights for halo titles and gears of war !!! so you see you don't get them, that would be like saying 360 got ff 13

you are NEVER gonna get them fanboy, the only thing you're thinking of is spinoffs. there will be PLENTY of mass effect spinoffs so enjoy that, and we'll enjoy the BIG exclusives of 2008

so you counted warhound out? big mistake !!! it will be a huge game in europe and RARE isn't done in europe by a LONG SHOT . and don't be silly, ps3 has barely passed one million consoles in japan . 360 will pass a million there at the end and they don't need japan like they need the real grounds of europe !!!

metal gear will be sucker punched by splinter cell, they come out the same time ... so don't make it up as your picture is not real. xbox 720 won't be out for 2 years, so stop the lies, as there is many more to come and also bionic commando plus too human 2

[tweaker]

360 version is going to be pirated. Sorry

[360_Rules]

That is the reason the 360 version is going to outsell the PS3 version. Oh and to play GTA 4 on the PS3 it's going to cost you $110 since you have to buy a new controller.

[heyheyhey]

fail

the DS3 will be out everywhere (already out in Japan) when GTA4 ships, also Home might be released by the time GTA4 ships which means achievements in the form of trophies- if not then the trophies will already be implemented into GTA4 to be used when Home ships

ps3 GTA will win because of brand recognition, SixAxis, standard HDD (might have an installation feature to cut down loading times) and the fact that the GTA series is also big in Japan and will push the PS3 version above the 360

[GETPWNED]

nice job pwning these n00bs. they couldn't come back with anything substantial. GTA4 will cost 110 bucks on PS3, and that's WITH the missing content. what a deal!

[mesh1]

i own a 360 and a ps3 im sure i will getting this on my 360 and wait for the dlc with brand city section filled with new missions.

[sleepbox]

360 version will be the best version. Exclusive eps, achievements, and custom soundtracks ensure victory. 2/1 sales advantage for 360...mark my words.

[heyheyhey]

if they allow mods on the ps3 version then no-one will care about exclusive DLC and will buy the PS3 version

seriously Sony- you make deals with publishers to allow mods, people buy your version of the game- its simple, mods are not big now on consoles, but they could be a huge strike against the 360 because they provide unlimited free DLC

although after the Hot Coffee fiasco i doubt this will happen

[undacovabrothe]

Well I dont mean to burst 360s bubble but last time I checked Home is scheduled to release around time GTA is scheduled so...... we would have our trophy system and we will have rumble prior to gta release.
Although rumble really doesnt affect me barely noticed it on the ps2.

Edit: I NEED BUBBLES lol i want to post this in the gamer zone or som1 can do it 4 me. Achievements shouldnt be why you would get the game on either system because Home will be out also ppl barely play for the missions so I dont see that as a valued argument. The deciding factor is are all those casual gamers who have ps2 will go buy a ps3 for gta. If they dont then 360 might even sales with ps3 or sell a bit more if they do convert then ps3 version will sell heavily more. Also if the 360 does sell more at first it will only be at first(do to larger base, although I dont know how many out of that base are gta fans) I know within a 6 months life time of sales the ps3 will take the cake.

[Highwayman]

Here's an idea. Who cares about the console war, why is this site so in love with every little detail about a console "war". I laugh everytime I read it or hear it. This isn't a war. You wanna see a war go and join the military and get shiped to Iraq or Afgan, and you'll see a war. Both versions will sell well. Whatever happens, happens. If Sony sells more....awesome, who cares. Same thing applies to Microsoft. Everyone has their panties in abundle over the "console war"

[chrisin3]

I'm going to Iraq in 6 months, but either way, too many people believe this console war to be a big deal. I don't really understand it, but it's a highly disputed topic--you'd think it was more important the way people talk about it. I know many people who are more adamant about their games than the world's conflicts--than their personal conflicts even.

[ROCCOZILLA]

you use the ps3 web browser to download new menu wallpaper with new icons.its SICK!they have games logos,chicks ,cars,movies.PLAY B3YOND!!

[altimako02]

people wolud defend a video game console then their belief , even more than their mate

[mugoldeneagle03]

"@360 rules
nice job pwning these n00bs. they couldn't come back with anything substantial. GTA4 will cost 110 bucks on PS3, and that's WITH the missing content. what a deal!"

No one bothered responding because quite frankly its a moronic argument. The Dualshock 3 has been out for 3 months now? Heavy gamers have imported it and Sony plans on having it on store shelves by March. I'm sure we'll hear more about it at GDC. If your best argument is "we have rumble", resist from posting

As for the "missing content" you guys have two exclusive episodes. I could care less about two episodes, especially when they wont alter the Storyline/Gameplay in anyway.

Has anyone mentioned that Surfergirl reported that Sony inked an exclusive deal for GTA V? No. Now that's "Missing content" that 360 fan's will miss out on...

[STIKUP ARTIST]

I bought my ps2 because of gta, but ill buy this one for 360.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

I think it a reason we have not seen the ps3 version

[SYSTEMS-at-WAR]

You can't forget that the PS3 was released way later than the 360. The PS3 was expensive at release and everyone who wanted next-gen already went and bought 360 (before knowing about the RROD issue) It's no wonder the PS3 is behind.

As for GTA... I believe the 360 will outsell the PS3 undoubtedly just because of the number of sold units. Personally, I'm getting it on PS3 just so I don't have the issue of RROD to deal with. As for extra content you can't say one version is more complete than the other since they aren't even released yet.

[kingOVsticks]

I hope sony jumps on this otherwise they will be commericals flying out the a-hole with advertisements preaching that GTA4 is better on the 360 I they better have a launch party for the ps3 version also.

[mmj]

This game won't decide anything...

By late 2008/early 2009 I hope to be enjoying newer and better games, if by then GTA4 is still the best they can offer I'll be disappointed.

The extra content might offer a few more days worth of play but it's not going to be anything groundbreaking.

What I'm saying is neither console can live off the success of GTA4, it may boost sales short term but in the long term it's just going to be a name on a list.

[LJWooly]

I think the fact that GTA4 is such a huge deal to Microsoft this year says something about the quality of the rest of the '08 360 games...

[Xbox is the BEST]

MGS2 7 million sold
MGS3 3.6 million sold

[Kaz Hirai]

You all have my personal guarantee that GTA IV will dominate on the magnificent PlayStation 3! The Xbot PIGS will lose out once again! MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!

[spike]

PS3 SUCKS

[felidae]

lol@TheMART