TheTwelve5937d ago

Good for Yahoo. About time somebody stuck it to Microsoft and doesn't sell out. Folks at Google can now drink to this...

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socomnick5937d ago

:/ not really sure why Microsoft wanted Yahoo.com Is ad revenue that profitable?

Bladestar5937d ago (Edited 5937d ago )

$521 billion, by 2010/year... that's what people think... but you see that's not including ingame and other platforms... Google has a monopoly over that and microsoft is trying to create a little more balance in that department... and even if yahoo and MSN combined google is still bigger...

DJ5937d ago

while Yahoo makes billions in profit. I see it as an easy way to help pay for MSN, though a lot of people that work at Yahoo have spent the past decade battling Microsoft on the Online front; I doubt many of them would stay if Microsoft bought them out.

Since making MSN a great service hasn't panned out, they need some other way of gaining market share against Google.

GIJeff5937d ago

"microsoft is trying to create a little more balance in that department." because all MS wants is balance...sure...riiiiiiight.

AllroundGamer5937d ago

yeah i had a great laugh too when i read that :) like when someone is desperately defending his master...

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Bladestar5937d ago

hah! I knew this was going to happen... I purchased like ??? yahoo shares at the news that microsoft may buy them... stocks went up... then It make sense that it would take a long time to even be approved ... and it may never be allowed since so many strong names like Google are against it which can slow the process.... so I sold... make some $$$... if you own yahoo stocks... and you don't want to lose money sell them... they will be worth what they used to before the bid.... which is $10+ less than today. And that's where is going once people know that the are rejecting it...

sharebuilder marketed grade this stock to D-(Sell) from B+(Buy) after this...

Now Yahoo is worth nothing... they will continue to bleed marketshare to Google until they are forced out of the industry...

I Make Stuff Up5937d ago (Edited 5937d ago )

Thank you for that lesson in smart investing.
It opened many eyes I believe.
No, really. I mean it.
Seriously.

Come on, people. Stop laughing. I'm really serious. What's so funny?

GIJeff5937d ago

yahoo is worth nothing? buhahahahahahahahahahahahhaaha hhahahaaaaaa.

games4fun5937d ago

i'm sure yahoo is so horrible we should all sell our stocks because microsoft wont get their mits on them is that really economics talking or fanboyism?

quick sell yahoo stocks because msft wont be their to hemorrhage money for a few years before they make any kind of profit ya sound advice all this does is make yahoo look stronger

Bladestar5937d ago (Edited 5937d ago )

It's not a lesson... it's a fact... prior to google bidding google.. the stocks were $10 less than what they are today... went up because of the posibility of microsoft buying it... what do you think is going to happen now to the stock smart guy? Go back to what it was or even lower... you are loyal and anti-microsoft... go on... put your life saving on google stock today... and ignore what I am saying... it will drop at least $10... you don't have to believe me... open a free sharebuilder account... and see the rating on google stock....

and yeah... you may think low of microsoft... but even the bad guys can create a balance... just like you wouldnt be gettings lots of things if the xbox 360 wouldn't exists... like rumble... even a online service... competition regardless of who it is... benefit the consumer... you guys specially DJ are single sided and single minded... you talk about monopoly in a negative way when microsoft is the one doing it... but when it's someone like google then it's ok...
when google purchase double click.. and monopolized the online ad industry.... i didn't hear you complain...

and by the way... I dont use yahoo nor msn... only google... why? because i think google is better... but this is not about what i like but the fact that google is growing too big which can force all other browser to become obsolete... google already has 80% marketshare.. both yahoo and MSN marketshare keep going down... so regardless of how much you hate microsoft and how much I Prefer google... at the end of the day... who will benefit if the only search engine is google?

games4fun5937d ago (Edited 5937d ago )

your one to talk about fanboyism putting irony aside i didn't say anything bad about competition in fact i am glad there is competition its just when a monopoly instead of innovating just buys out the competition and online gaming for consoles came from the dreamcast/sega and micro pulled support for their software on dreamcast which was contributing factor for it failing imo, their are 1000's (some make little to no profit but they are still around) of search engines out there who cares about market share? the internet is different people can make anything they want on it to compete

i am anti-msoft but i am still typing away on their pc mainly because i need word documents so that the university will accept my papers also when it comes to consoles i will gladly own them all if i could in fact i bought a ps3(for a # of exclusive franchises) because imo its the best to get when i have some extra money later ill get a 360 (to play gears of war) and then a wii (they have skies of arcadia 2 coming out for it) in fact i am more anti-nintendo because they in my opinion are ruining the gaming market with iterations of mario and zelda rehashes to sustain them followed by casual games but even i will still buy these products because I'm a consumer first

also if i wanted to hear about what stocks to get i wouldn't listen to you because you have a history of being msoft oriented when msofts stocks were going down i never heard about selling their stocks from u but only when msoft does well do i hear about stocks which is fine i think this actually put yahoo in a good light as being a strong company that could say no but this is all My Opinion which shouldn't be taken into account when making decisions about stocks just as your's shouldn't be, don't tell people what to do with their own money just worry about yours.

On a sidenot DJ below wrote factual happenings to back up his point and you used an estimate rating system on yours whose got more solid info "smart guy" i would side with DJ on this one

Bill Gates5936d ago (Edited 5936d ago )

Bladestar bro, sometimes you make absolutely no sense what so ever. This being one of those times.

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DJ5937d ago

Last time I checked Microsoft lost half a billion dollars on MSN last year while Yahoo made quite a lot of profit. Yahoo does not need Microsoft to survive, and they SHOULD reject this deal.

I use Yahoo about as much as I use Google, so I'd be pretty ticked if Microsoft started screwing things up on the Yahoo side.

GIJeff5937d ago

nobody uses MSN because they constantly try to shove MS BS in your face. Its annoying. Yahoo and Google are the only things i use.

games4fun5937d ago (Edited 5937d ago )

when i search for something i pick yahoo first and then pick Google as a second i actually like them both i would have stopped visiting if msft got hold of them i could see it now live posted everywhere and a system based on msoft pnts for emailing and paying for said email its only 300 pnts and you get to email all your friends who have the same service quicker

Bnet3435937d ago

MSN Messenger is the most used outside of America believe it or not.

resistance1005936d ago

';nobody uses MSN because they constantly try to shove MS BS in your face'

You serious? i don't know one person under 25 who hasn't got an MSN account and who uses it quite often.

MSN is huge, and its the best thing MS have ever done imo.

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kewlkat0075937d ago (Edited 5937d ago )

some yahoo employees are still in trouble because Yahoo is going to have to downsize to cut COST, like most do.

It's either that or re-energize their business to compete with google, or buy other small companies that can make them stronger.

Now if this deal would of gone through, it just means much more would of lost jobs with MS take-over, but hey that's just business.

Either way, Yahoo is still exacerbating their options on what to do...Tough times ahead.

MS is in this to compete, when it feels threatened, then again weren't they saying Goggle has slowed down a bit. I wonder what investors are thinking on the yahoo side..44 blil

games4fun5937d ago (Edited 5937d ago )

i think that they should make a merger of some sorts with another search engine such as ask jeeves or merger with a company that doesn't have a search engine per se such as apple, apple is good at software and they could add itunes and other things along that line to compete with google, apple as i know of, does not have some sort of big search engine so they would not lose any jobs unlike the msft deal

wageslave5937d ago

YHOO knows they are failing, and MS wants to jump forward in time and not have to wait to build share.

YHOO is holdling for a better price, that is all.

IntelligentAj5936d ago

If Yahoo is holding out for a better offer then they are stupid. That MS offer is a 50 or 60% premium. They're not going to find a better price.

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Former Dragon Age lead writer David Gaider pours scorn on EA's AI dreams.

"They want you to believe the devs under them are super stoked to work generative AI into their processes," continued Gaider, "but I assure you what they took as excitement was really a veiled wail of despair not unlike the time that team was informed of their new 'really cool' live service mandate.".

LordoftheCritics1d 20h ago

Publishers see gaming as another stock market.

isarai1d 18h ago

I think anyone with some common sense knew this, im glad i don't support their games anymore, what a sh!t company.

Psychonaut851d 3h ago

Friends don’t let friends buy EA or Ubisoft.

Chocoburger1d 2h ago

I said this yesterday. AI isn't what we want when it comes to crafting artistry. Alas, these soulless corporate morons don't care about their work, only about cutting corners as much as possible.

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Phil Spencer and the Battle for Xbox’s Soul

Has the rapid growth of Xbox made the ship too heavy? Following the closures of Tango Gameworks, Arkane Austin, and Roundhouse, we explore what the future of Xbox could look like.

LG_Fox_Brazil2d ago

This ship was never meant to sail, this ship was made from the get go to sink as fast as possible. It almost feels that they want to lower the standards of quality in the industry so that they can fit in

rlow11d 6h ago

I disagree, Xbox from the get go innovated and changed the industry. They did a lot of firsts and standardized a lot of others. It wasn’t till the beginning of the Xbox1 era that things started to go south.

Stevonidas1d 2h ago

Yep, although I’d argue it started going to shit when they tried to hock Kinect on their audience instead of continuing to invest in their studios and IPs. 2001-2010 Xbox was peak gaming, though.

rlow11d ago

@Stevonidas
I agree they never should have focused on it after the 360 era. But you do have to remember they were faked out by the huge volumes of Kinects sold. To quote info on Wikipedia, “Project Natal, It was first released on November 4, 2010, and would go on to sell eight million units in its first 60 days of availability.” So if your Xbox and see these huge sales on a peripheral where are you going to put some money? Criticism in hindsight is worthless…..if only we could all see our future. In other wards they had no way of knowing. Plus they had engagement numbers and a lot of signs pointed to people wanting it.

Their biggest mistake wasn’t the Kinect, but unlike Sony after the PS3 debacle. They didn’t double on down on exclusive good games. The other huge mistake was letting Call of Duty go to Sony.

Hedstrom1d 9h ago

Phil wants Xbox to be as soulless as him!

Tacoboto1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Xbox has no soul and Phil has no confidence, and it's impossible to say either do when they killed Tango and Arkane Austin.

Everything they've said since has only made them look worse to a point that they're actually less competent than Embracer.

Markdn1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Whe you release something like the series S and expect it not to hurt your business model, and developers have to have parity with games. Then you know Microsoft don't care. Series s is the final nail that broke developers,

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Sarah Bond dodges questions on Xbox studio closures

While on stage with Dina Bass at The Bloomberg Technology Summit the President of Xbox, Sarah Bond, was asked about the Xbox studio closures of Arkane Austin, Tango Gameworks, Alpha Dog, and Roundhouse Studios

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ApocalypseShadow2d ago

Of course she did. She's part of the problem and will just tow the company line.

VenomUK2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bloomberg’s Dina Bass could barely read her scripted question without looking at her notes, whilst Sarah Bond who WAS expecting the question spoke without saying anything of substance or answering the question in any meaningful way. Clearly she’s had the same expert PR training as Phil, but this avoidance was disrespectful. In time the short-sighted decision to shut down Tango Gameworks will be seen as of the most notorious examples why Phil Spencer messed up his tenure in charge of Xbox. That’s a fully built out talented team that could’ve been put to work on any project.

Additionally, Phil Spencer should not be using Sarah Bond as a patsy for his mistakes- he should be answering that question.

gleepot2d ago

I think you are all really overselling Tangos value. Hi-Fi rush was a lot of fun. Ghostwire was incredibly dull. Evil within 1 and 2 were just okay.

lucasnooker2d ago

Evil within 2 was incredibly under rated. I thought that game was surprisingly good

NotoriousWhiz2d ago

Someone else said it best. I don't think it was a Phil decision. It was most likely a Satya decision. I think Microsoft is done giving out free money to Xbox.

Cacabunga2d ago

people please boycott Activision Bethesda next release and support Hellblade.
these people mus understand that they cannot treat their fans and employees that way.
scumbags.

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XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Yikes you don't help Sarah 😬 making a problem worse

Christopher2d ago

She's playing her role. There's absolutely nothing any of them can say other than the truth, this is about profit margins and not quality, so they just don't answer anything and wait for gamers to forget.

shinoff21832d ago

I think news is coming of more ps5 release but they gotta be careful cause Xbox is still sitting on store shelves. They can't get left holding all that stock

Lightning772d ago

Come next month they'll flash nice looking games in our faces and expecting us to forget.

The only thing that'll be going through my mind at their showcase is how many of those studios will get shut down after release.

I'm not joking around either. MS probably expects every game to be like COD and do COD numbers. What a way to destroy gaming for the entire industry because they're dumb af at being realistic in what success means for each game.

-Foxtrot1d 23h ago

Always feels she was brought in / promoted for this. Happened just before things started to be out in motion.

Phil and co have someone to throw under the bus and share the blame with

zaanan2d ago

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

darthv721d 18h ago

....won't get fooled again

Hofstaderman2d ago

Like a deer caught in the headlights.....

notachance2d ago

I always wondered why xbox had multiple leaders with similar titles like Phil Spencer, Matt Booty, and Sarah Bond, like, how many heads do you actually need?

Seems to me it would be more cost efficient to cut 2 of them instead of all those studios.

DarXyde2d ago

Frankly, I suspect she is the most competent of them. I don't mean that I like her more, I mean that she's the best at articulating herself and giving the talking points MS wants to give. The others are starting to sound more like her than her sounding like any of them.

Are any of these people "responsible" for what's happening? No. This reeks of Nadella. But that being said, I don't see any of the Xbox heads stepping down in protest.

"Don't shoot the messenger", sure, but at the same time, the messengers don't seem to take umbrage with the message. Not enough to remove themselves from it, anyway.

CS71d 23h ago

I disagree. Nadella is looking for profit as a CEO should in my opinion.

The problem is Dr. Phil & Co. had 10 years to bring Xbox back on track and have been failing woefully.

Phil needs to sell to Nadella that if we are to make a profit, we need to make great games. And to do that we need employees here for the long haul and the freedom to work on creative projects.

But as Phil said himself he doesn’t believe great games sell consoles.

RpgSama2d ago

Dude, 100%, forgot Major Nelson and Aaron Greenberg, like what is the point for all these suits? They have more C-level executives than games released in a generation.

This is just so they can all pass along the hot potato one at a time and in between all of them can say a lot without actually saying anything, misinformation at its finest.

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