Xbox will "own" GTA IV launch, says MS

Microsoft will make sure that the Xbox 360 benefits most from the GTA IV launch, and from a content standpoint it "already owns it", says Microsoft Game Studios boss Shane Kim.

Speaking to US magazine Wired at the DICE summit, the Microsoft games boss said that making sure it owns the launch of Grand Theft Auto IV from a platform perspective "is really important."

"We already own it, I believe, from a content standpoint, because we have the exclusive episodes," he said. "And so Xbox 360 is still going to have the ultimate experience for GTA IV.

[Iamback]

Keep dreaming. GTA is known as playstation franchise and i am more that sure that in Europe and Japan sony wins, in NA MS wins but numbers wont be that different

[Kulupoo]

well MS better do good on GTA4...
becuz there is alot of PS3 good games coming up shortly...
360 is going to have a pretty good spring with too human/GTA4

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Correction "was", that extra DLC is undeniable considering the PS3 doesn't have any. :)

[eLiNeS]

System seller!!!!

[DarkSniiper]

Xbox 360 FTW!!!

$nipe

[The Killer]

about what is he dreaming about? those content will most likely includes extra missions and maybe be new characters and more vehicles weapons etc! but that doesnt mean rockstar wont put enough of those in the original title! they will put enough that will take u at least 20 hours of game play and i think thats enough! and any way u will have to pay for the those extra episodes so its almost like buying a new game but actually its the same game! good luck xbots, we dont need those episodes we want GTA5 next!!!!

[BrianC6234]

I don't care what Shame Kim thinks. I'm getting the PS3 version myself. And since the PS3 has a lot of huge games coming out this year it doesn't really matter. What else does the 360 really have this year? Not much to get excited over.

[Kleptic]

the reality is that GTAIV is the only blockbuster for the 360 this year...and its one of 5 for the PS3...do the math...as far as system selling capabilities...the PS3 is in a much better stance with GTAIV...what PS2 owner is going to say "I want GTAIV, but dont' mind missing MGS4 this spring......and FFXIII this fall"...and opt for the 360 version?...all three of those franchises were equally powerful at moving the PS2 into the record books...MS got 1 of the 3 big franchises...but all 3 are having a title released this year, and 2 are totally exclusive to the PS3 right now...

You guys are right that the 360 version will outsell PS3 version probably overall...but PS3 sales this spring are going to sky-rocket...everyone knows that...there is no arguing that the PS3 doesn't have a vastly superior lineup for 2008...any PS2 owner could figure that out with about 5 minutes of research...

[MaximusPrime]

i say that it is too close to call. But i agree with you, iamback, PS3 will own GTA4 in Europe and Japan. Since GTA started on PS, it will be successful for PS3.
Xbox will own GTA4 in NA.

But as i said, it is too close to call.

Btw: MS said "Xbox will own GTA4 launch". Sony will say the same.
So in another word, so what.

[captainjy]

WAS known as a PS franchise. Money spoke, R* answered. 360 was lead platform, has exclusive content and WILL sale many more copies on the 360. Sorry toaster boys, the days of Phony owning the gaming world are over. I know one thing, I won't have to wait 22 minutes for a game to install on my 360...

[Xeikon]

GTA4 will be a greater success on the 360.

[CH-OutbreaK]

Everything will be the same on both consoles, except the "ultimate experience" you will have is 2 extra episodes....

<sarcasm>

:| I really want a 360 now </sarcasm>

[mikeslemonade]

Well lets hope so because even a Turok game sells PS3. GTA4 is the only saving grace for the 360 for early 2007. GTA4 is not going to make or break the PS3 and that's the truth.

[CH-OutbreaK]

GTA got popular because of the playstation brand. People won't forget. If anything, the ps3 will sell a lot of consoles the day it comes out. Many ps2 owners are waiting for this game to backup their purchase of a next gen console. I'm guessing that most of them will choose a ps3. Don't get me wrong, i hope this game does well on every platform, Im only saying it will due significantly better over time on the ps3 because of the playstation/gta fan base we have

[Time Lord]

You average jo, who doesnt isnt on n4g everyday,checking out the latest gamingn news, will probably never know about the 'exclusive' DLC 360 will get.

[spandexxking]

genuine take that to the open zone

[SeNiLe911]

I favor the Xbox 360 since you have rumble right out of the box, achievements that get you into the game doing things you might not have ever thought to do before and of course the DLC that is exclusive.

Buy for the system you want though, either way it's going to be a blast!!!

[mikeslemonade]

Edit for 1.2:

Meant to say GTA4 is the only saving grace on 360 for early 2008. Why the disagrees? What other game do you have before GTA4?

[Exhaust]

Anyone that thinks the exclusive DLC on 360 won't make a difference is fooling themselves.

If you think MS would pay $50 million and then not promote the fact they have more content you're also fooling yourself. There is no way a real GTA fan will not know the DLC is available.

Only people that will buy the PS3 version are Sony fans. Period.

I'm such a GTA fanboy I'm gameflying the PS3 version! haha

[mikeslemonade]

The reason why the 360 will sell more won't be the exclusive content since you have to pay more money for that anyway and the average person won't even know about the content unless MS advertises it on TV. GTA4 will sell more on 360 just like how COD4 sold more on 360. That exclusive content doesn't mean an extra million sale sold then what they would have. I think it's a waste of money that MS invested in to this unless the content is going to be free.

GTA4 isn't even going to make that big of an impact and it's not going to make or break the PS3. Resident Evil 5 will sell more on PS3 so your point is? Don't believe me? DMC4 along sells 130,000 units in Japan on day 1 for a small install base and Resident 5 is a more antcipated game and will sell to much larger install base. By the time Resident Evil 5 is released the PS3 and 360 install base would be tied most likely give or take 1-2 million.

[Lucreto]

@ Exhaust

We don't know when the DLC will be released. They will have to have it out with 3 months for it to serve any purpose. I will be getting the game and I doubt I will be playing it in 6 months later.

[CH-OutbreaK]

Honestly, with dmc4s achievements that seem to leave an imprint in the firmware (if u know what i mean), it seems like ps3 is getting something similar with the release of home. Personally, i never used rumble anyways, and i thank sony not including it. I love how light the sixaxis is. But, again, these are my personal ideas and opinions. I think the game will sell over 5 million over 4 months on the ps3, selling over 4000000 consoles. Just my guess

[MikeGdaGod]

well i already got rumble with the DS3, the exclusive content won't be there for months, and achievements mean sh!t to me. so i'm getting the PS3 version.

playing it on 360 doesn't even sound right

[SeNiLe911]

Regarding not using rumble anyways, is that because the PS3 does not have it right out of the box or if it did you would turn it off?

I just can't see playing a game with out it. Car games you feel the road, crashes, the way each car reacts or feels. Shooters, you feel when you get hit from gun fire, each gun you feel the way it shoots differently. GTA4 will have all that and more giving the game Life.

A cool game that just came out for the Xbox 360, Rez HD uses rumble like I have never seen before. It uses up to 4 other controllers, placing them all over your body, under your feet, behind the back, as you play the game your whole body rumbles to the beat of the music and game play. It's amazing. It's called Trance Vibration!

Rumble is an amazing thing that makes games that much more life like and I'm glad the PS3 has it now or will be soon here in the States.

[natural0721]

I have both 360 and the ps3 but im going to get the ps3 version if they are both the same. Im not going to turn my already 60 dollar game into a 80 or 90 dollar game just to buy the extra missions.especially if they are side missions that have nothing to do with the whole story.Plus I look at it as a longgevity my 360 already got the 3 red lights twice.I dont want one day I go to play the game then all of a sudden get the lights again then have to have my game just sit there collecting dust because I have to wait to get another system.Plus I like collecting system and at least I know maybe 3 years from now if I wanted to pick the game up again and play through I can with out having to go get a new sytem because the warrenty ran out and be stuck with games I can't play.So for now on If a game comes out for both systems and they are idenical Im getting it for my ps3.I refuse to give microsoft anymore money as they don't care about there customers by rushing a system out just to get ahead and not thinking of all the gamers.

[wageslave]

" Agree(23) | Disagree(40)"

Xbox 360 has a larger install base worldwide.
GTA has traditionally sold very well in the West vs East.
Xbox 360 has an even LARGER part of the Western console install base.
Xbox 360 users buy more video games per-console, per-year than their counterparts.
Xbox 360 does have the ultimate GTAIV experience. Other versions are "incomplete" in a content-sense.

These fact are indisputable.

So, How does "GTA4 will be a greater success on the 360" not follow from logic and reason?

Here on N4G, 23 people agree with reason and logic and 40+ refuse reality and wish to substitute their own.

That said, who wants to take bets that Xbox 360 does in fact outsell the PS3 version?

[bourner]

how can you disagre with eagle eyes . i bet 90% people dont know about the dlc .they want it for the game

[i Shank u]

but like wasgeslave said, disagreeing that the 360 will have the greater GTA IV experience is pretty meh. sure its not the biggest reason ever to go out and get a 360, but for those who have both consoles, or want to pick up a next-gen console specifically for this game, how is the 360 not the better choice? Microsoft has paid $50 million for exclusive content; thats just about how much it costs to make they game, maybe even a lil more. how does that NOT pique your interest as a gamer? Microsoft will not let the DLC simply be some exclusive "side missions" or some dinky little DLC package that is very comparable to what the PS3 gets; whatever it is it will be HUGE, the price tag says so : )

[mikeslemonade]

It will sell better on 360 but it has little effect on the success of the PS3.

[Mattearl]

Sure the 360 has an extra 2 episodes. don't care. The game is going to do great on both consoles.

sure the 360 will sell more, it has more users, but the ps3 will sell a lot too.

[Black_Jack]

m$ paid 50 million for dlc, thats some despirate sh*t right there. I bet if they hadn't the 360 would sink like a rock come march!

[zane_7849]

They better "own" it because they sure don't have anything else interesting coming out this year.

Seriously though unless the extra content is drastically different than the gameplay or content already provided- I don't see this being a big factor. I've never completely finished a GTA before, and I've played them all- even GTA:1969 London. Once you beat the narrative it usually feels like enough, we'll see though.

[gaffyh]

wageslave makes a lot of sense. 360 does have a higher install base so GTA4 should sell a lot more on the 360, however it all depends on whether 360 owners like GTA.

If I was going to buy this game I would get the PS3 version, just because it grew to it's high status on the PS2. But I don't really like GTA (the old ones anyway), unless this one is drastically different I doubt I'll be buying it on launch day. And also because my damn 360 hasn't even RRoD but it is having read errors on all my games, stupid 360 and microsoft who sent it back and replaced the motherboard (FOR NO REASON!!!). People who only own a 360 have no idea how good the PS3 is. The fact that you can turn your console on and put in a game an KNOW it will work straight away is amazing.

@senile911 - On my PS2 controller I ALWAYS switched off the rumble, it is not immersive, it is just annoying so I don't really care about rumble either.

[masterg]

My guess is that the 360 will sell out 60% of the game in the US and the PS3 will do the same in EU. The 360 will however win because of the bigger install in the US. But this will be from people already owning a 360. This game will bring a lot of people into next gen. But with the games the 360 had last year making a little impact on the console sales I don't see this being any different.

The PS3 is however very hot right now. I would be surprised if it has not surpassed the 360 in week by week sales in the US before this game is released. The PS2 owners are waiting on this game and the PS3 will be the obvious choice for them.

[Cryos]

I know it's not accurate, but Amazon's Hype meter reflects the orders they have gotten for a particular console. Right now,

54% of their orders have been for the PS3,
compared to
46% for the X-box 360

It doesn't mean anything, but it's just a gauge, and I think it shows it will be closer than you think and one system won't "own" another, exclusives or not.

Link --- http://www.amazon.com/gp/fe...

[Sayai jin]

@mikeslemonade- What do you mean the average peron won't even know about the downloadable content?Have you ever used Xbox Live. As soon as you turn on your 360 it goes to the Xbox live screen which has profile info, latest news, Inside Xbox, Friends, Messages, latest movie release for download, and the latest content to donwload. This changes every time you scroll through the pages. So there is no doubt that people will see it. XBL also has the option for you 360 to download all new content. Most importantly most games when you start the, will have a blinking "New Content Available". So most people well at least know about, if it cost, well then they will have to choose to buy. Having the extra content is a good thing. So I do not know why people are trying to spin or tone down the fact that the 360 has the extra available content and the PS3 does'nt. It still will be a great game on the PS3. I am pretty sure it will end up available on the PS3, but I do not have to worry about any of that, becuase I have the 360, PS3, and the Wii. Thus ensuring I always get the best games and gaming experience (including my gaming PC)!

[crunchie101]

I think GTA and Playstation's history are strong enough that it'll take a lot for Microsoft to have an impact on the average gamer in regards to this.

I think that a lot of PS2 owners will buy a PS3 for GTA4

[blacsheep]

ps3 is also getting DLC as stated by rockstar themselves

the fact is sony cant mention it due to the fact microsoft paid 50mil to be able to brag about it for a while.

i believe that the ps3 gets its DLC 3months after the 360 which numerous sites are reporting.

and like EGM have stated 2008 is the comeback of the the tortoise (ps3), and the hare (360) really should have saved some of its big hitters for 2008 because the finish line is further away than the 360 thought.

GAME ON

@the disagrees

how can you disagree?so are rockstar lying now? exactly i didnt think so rockstar have stated that the ps3 will get its own DLC,i didnt just make it up out of thin air!

[Lifendz]

money is another. All these guys that own PS2s and are sitting on the bench have yet to decide on a system. Now GTA IV is going to bring a lot of them to one system or another. When these people walk into a store and see a system for under 300 and one for practically 400, will they choose the more expensive system?

Now if Metal Gear is known to these people and they're making their decision with MGS4 and other exclusives in mind, then maybe they'll make the educated decision and not the impulse one to get GTA on a cheaper system.

I personally believe that a good number of people still out there yet to get a next-gen console and are GTA players that are either teenage gamers or older games that don't read the mags, blogs, sites, etc. What they do is anyone's guess.

[bourner]

i always remember gta being good because of its free roam and missions and its the best for that so i not realy getting it for online anyways

[wow14]

@2.1

So, this forum says "oh, MS bought the exclusive content for $50M!!1!" which has no source, and is frankly un-fcuking-realistic.

And, then you (and all kinds of others) say "oh, Rockstar said the DLC is not exclusive".

So, which is it? Can ANYONE provide a CREDIBLE source of either (A) MS paid $50M for exclusive content and (B) The Xbox 360 DLC is not exclusive, and will come to PS3.

This forum is delusional.

Until then, take your nonsense to the ==>

[blacsheep]

number 1 if you want to refer to me its blacsheepxx

number2-
did the 50 mil come out of your pocket? guess not so why the big speech which sounded like it came from pain from depths of your soul?honestly has your 360 just died on you?thats a serious question because you sound angry

the world and his dog knows how much microsoft payed for 'their holy grail' of DLC. even though ps3 is getting its 'own downloadable content' stated by a rockstar representative

and if you cant keep track of interviews from developers why should i refresh your memory?

[wow4u]

What are you talking about?

GTA: Windows, PlayStation, GBC
GTA2: Windows, PlayStation, Dreamcast, GBC
GTA3: Windows, PlayStation2, Xbox
GTA:VC: Windows, PlayStation2, Xbox
GTAIV: PlayStation3, Xbox 360

Sure, PS has always had GTA, but its never been an exclusive to any platform.

Being that GTA generally sells better in the West, and that in the USA (the largest single videogame market by-far), the Xbox 360 outsells the PS3 about 4:1... uhm, Im fairly confident that all those gamers arent going to be thinking PS3 when they hear about the GTAIV release.

Further, when Kim says they are going to "own" the launch, he might mean that Rockstar will be CO-MARKETING the game with them to a greater degree than Sony.

We *do* know that they're going to have the Exclusive content -- and you *have* to know that MS is going to be interested in promoting that the Xbox 360 has the EXLUSIVE game content.

If Rockstar has decided to concentrate on their marketing of GTAIV in partnership with Microsoft -- its all over for GTAIV as a PS3 seller.

Edit:

Wwow14 is correct -- people on this forum are just pulling stuff out of their bum. There is opinion (my conclusion above) and their is fact (the list of platforms for the GTA series). This forum seems to have a hard time adjusting to the facts.

Bubbles for you wow14.

[jwatt]

I always said gta will sell more on the 360 but push more harware on the ps3.

[paracardium]

I'm buying the ps3 version.It will do well in the US that's it.

[meepmoopmeep]

PS3 lacking in hardware?

last i heard, the 360 added HDMI which they said wasn't needed
it doesn't have WiFi
it doesn't play HD optical discs out of the box
it has an HDD standard

take your goggles of, dude

[Qbanboi]

Same here. DLC or NOT, GTA4 has my money on the Ps3 version.

Man, it will be a complete owned, if Microsoft ends with no High diference of purchase between the consoles. XD

[wow14]

last i heard, the 360 added HDMI which they said wasn't needed
MS said HDMI isnt needed for HiDef gaming -- and they are correct. Try thinking clearly, and work on your reading comprehension.

it doesn't have WiFi
It doesnt need WiFi. Maybe you dont have a home wired with Ethernet, but I do. And, if you dont, wireless bridges are $20. MS isnt responsible for your home-networking quirks.

it doesn't play HD optical discs out of the box
Who cares? Not everyone wants a HD player. PS3 doenst have Rumble out of the box... what is your point?

it has an HDD standard
Not everyone wants an HD. It doesnt matter. Perhaps someone only wants Windows Media Extender? Or they only want to play one or two games and have no interest in anything else (more common than you think)

take your goggles of, dude
- yes, take your goggles off. Does the PS3 have Windows Media Center Extender? Can you send IM's from a PC to your PS3? How about in-game access to your own Music?

take off your googles, indeed.

[wow4u]

@3.1

Desperate much? The story about MS's superior GTAIV title. Its not about PS3's lack of rumble, PSN being third-rate or lack of a universal in-game Guide. And, its not about the things you listed there either.

[redwingsrock]

i laugh at this

[Mr_Showtime1]

im buying the ps3 version

[CH-OutbreaK]

So am i

[Vip3r]

Me too.

[wotta]

me too

[Genuine]

Ps3 just isn't for me. It's hardware is lacking when it comes to gaming, atleast when compared to 360. I'll be getting the complete version for 360.

[Mr_Showtime1]

and altho its tempting to get GTA on it, the GTA series has, and always will call playstation its home.

[Sez]

i getting the 360 version. because it will be the better version with the DLC (imo)

[Silverwolf]

And please don't click on disagree it's not like you can't make me buy it.

[Drekken]

Only thing that is lacking is your knowledge of the ps3 capabilities.

[BrownPowerzz]

+ Downloadable content
+ No installing

[Mr_Kuwabara]

I'm also getting this for the PS3.

[The_Engineer]

every GTA I have owned has been on the playstation.

360 and GTA don't even sound right together.

also no one has spoken about the HAVOC that a game like this will cause to core and arcade owners. Want to purchase that $30 extra episode?? Yo will need a HDD. That cuts out one third of the 360 install base right off the bat. MS is in for a big surprise with the sales of this title.

[Marceles]

I'm getting the PS3 version too...I beat all of them on a playstation and I'm continuing that trend

[jessupj]

I'll most likely be picking up a ps3 and gta4 on the day of the release.

It seems like most of you guys are getting the ps3 version, but that might be because this site has more sony fans.

We are all hardcore gamers, we don't play gta for the missions. We play gta for the amazing freedom and gameplay. Moments like killing as many cops as you can before you die. Extra missions for the 360 version might make a scratch but it won't be a big scratch. I highly doubt many 360 fans will pay $20-$30 just for more missions.

Brand loyalty is a big thing as you all know. That's why I believe this game will sell much the same on both consoles regardless of M$'s actions.

So are we getting gta5 exclusive on the ps3 or what?

[Marceles]

I'm not following a bandwagon...I was getting it for the PS3 on day one, it's just I feel more comfortable playing games on the console I first started playing them on

Supposedly PS3 is supposed to get GTA5 and LA Noire exclusive in exchange for the GTA4 exclusive DLC for the 360...but now that the DLC is coming to the PS3 I really don't see the big deal about the 360 version anymore other than it's coming to the console...maybe the content will be a timed exclusive for a little while? I dont know..

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

i wont have to worry about getting up and switching discs to keep playing... i can just enjoy hours of GTA4 without getting up

[wow14]

I have a friend who is a big GTA fan. When he heard that the Exclusive Contnet was coming to Xbox 360, he sold his PS3 and bought an Elite.

Besides, he was looking forward to Lair, and we all know how crap that was.

He was amazed at the vastly superior game quality, the LIVE experience, and loves in game custom music in every title. Since then, he's convinced 2 or 3 people to do the same.

That's why the Xbox 360 is outselling the PS3 on a world-wide basis, people are spreading the word person to person that the Xbox 360 really deserves the credit it is getting in the marketplace.

So, to the fellows above who are saying "oh, im getting it on the ps3" you are only doing it because you want to be in the minority worldwide (the majority will be playing it on Xbox 360) and you dont want the full game.

Otherwise, you'd stop being a brand-fan-boy and choose the best game experience. Sell your PS3 and buy an Xbox 360 -- if your a gamer, you'll never be happier.

[Sprudling]

You got it wrong. The PS3 has been outselling the 360 worldwide for a while now. Last week it even did so without counting Japan.

PS3: 118,953
360: 108,438
(Japan not yet included)

http://www.vgchartz.com/

[BrownPowerzz]

With that information the PS3 will overtake the 360 in 796 weeks time (or over 15 years), not counting Japan! ;)

[wow4u]

@4.14:

GTAV & La Noir exclusive to PS3? Are you serious? So, your saying Rockstar, which has been working with MS since the beginning is going to just stop making games for the world's most popular current-gen console?

I realize you are dedicated to your favorite brand, but you have crossed the line to insanity.

Why would R* want to bankrupt their company?

[Marceles]

Since the beginning? Xbox had late editions of GTA that didn't sell well on Xbox 1...Rockstar has always had a good relationship with the Playstation ever since the beginning of GTA and released each game on the system, what the hell are you talking about going bankrupt? MS has had a good relationship with Rockstar...in the PC department. LA Noire is for sure exclusive, GTA5 we'll see...but anyways you're obviously the insane one for that comment.

[Adamalicious]

I'm getting it for PS3 as well. There's usually so much to do in GTA that I don't finish every single thing so the promise of additional content, that I'd have to pay for, isn't enticement for me to switch from playing GTA on Playstation.

[CH-OutbreaK]

You're telling me that ps3's hardware is lacking? In all honesty, ps3s hardware is the most complete console ever. It haas a next gen disc drive, every single model has a hard drive, they all come with wireless controllers and internet and much more. Just because msoft pays 50million for 2 episodes of content, that makes their console complete? dont make me laugh. its not like someone wont record them for everyone to see online, if it really matters to anyone anyway.

[PureGamer]

I dont see how, when the PS3 version will outsell the 360 version in japan and europe. I dont know which version im getting yet, ill probaly go for the PS3 version so i can play my mates online.

[jeanm3306]

and the ps3 online capability is free versus the 360. so basically more people will be playing gta4 on ps3.

[wow14]

You've got to be joking.

The present, total world-wide install base is roughtly 18-20 Million Xbox 360s and 8-10 Million PS3s.

We *KNOW* that GTA sells predominantly in the USA. The EU and Asia market buys fewer copies per-console.

We *KNOW* that the Xbox 360 has almost 4x the install base in the West.

*HOW ON EARTH* can you come to the conclusion that Xbox 360 *wont* own this launch?

Rockstar is releasing the whole, best, complete GTAIV on Xbox 360 *ONLY*.

You are clearly refusing reality.

[wow4u]

You dont see how?

The Xbox 360 is twice the worldwide install base.
The Xbox 360 has the only complete version.

Now do you see? If you cant, I suggest you try to see from over there ->

[TheMART]

" So, lets have a row then. Which version are you buying? And will it take 22 minutes to install GTA on PS3?"

Interesting

[PopEmUp]

ps3 is for waiting x-box 360 is for loading when I'm talking about loading i mean for instance walking into the house, opening doors, looking up map, entering new island while ps3 is waiting for 20 minutes or whatever but there will be no loading at any cost, so let see is waiting or loading is better, btw M$ is dreaming everybody who owned gta is only wanting it to be on playstation not x-box

[jctoyou]

yes MART lets have a row then,how many disks do you think the 360 version will be?oh and how many points will the extra content cost!

[The Killer]

i could have played more but i couldnt stand it! the graphics was not AAA game graphics, the leafs were like papers cut and colored like leafs, bioshock graphics on my 2005 pc was much better!

its a matter of time before people realize that 360 games sucks a$$!
ps3 version of GTA4 will be better and will feel better!

[Mr PS3]

Lets have a row then tuff guy
I'll be buying GTA4 on the PS3 and i dont care if it take 22 mins to install
Wow 22 mins to install(have you any proof of that statement)
Here's the bottom line. If i have to install a game on my hard drive (and trust me numpty i've got plent of room on my hard drive)and it took twenty mins ? What the problem with that ? would it sway my descision to purchase a game or not ! No it would not
But i would rather have to install a game for 22 mins a play that game knowing that i can have my console on for 10 or 20 or even 48 hours straight without so much as even any noise coming from my PS3 can you say the same, can you play your game safely in the knowledge that after 10 or 20 or even 48 mins of gameplay that it wont RROD on your ass
No you can't so don't make stupid statements ok there c*ckring boy

[BrianC6234]

It's funny to see Xbots talk about this wait for a game to install. At least with the PS3 we don't have to wait two weeks to get our console back for a repair. Give me a 20 minute wait over the dreaded RROD.

By the way, when I got home with DMC4 I stuck the nice big Blu-ray disc in my PS3 and started the install. Then I went for a walk for an hour and when I got home it was waiting for me. I don't have to spend every free second gaming.

[mighty_douche]

"exclusive episodes"

yeah how much are they gonna rip you off for them? $10 for a new pair of jeans? $20 for a RROD gun? piece of sh!t console....

(im quite enjoying being banned from the "open" zone, allows me to spread spam like the little pu55ys who reported me)

[eLiNeS]

but guess what, you and a million others got me banned as well.

And for the Xbox 360 being a piece of sh!t console, I don't think so, the PofS3 is the one that has no rumble, no achievements, no XMB, no custom sound tracks, the online sux, the games sux and you will not be getting exclusive content for the PofS3 and your pissed and taking it out on the fanboys. So go suck it!

[SUP3R]

Your ass must feel a whole lot better after pulling out all of that BS.

[phony force slayer]

give the phony defence force battle fleet what the PofS3 is about
they will be waiting 3 hours and 15 gig for this baby to load up
PofS3
this is living
this is waiting
wait beyond!!!!

[SUP3R]

So...
Xbots have nothing else to turn to when bashing the PS3 but the installation process which actually benefits the game?
How weak and pathetic can you guys get??

[sak500]

Man look at them sony droids, they spill B$ against xbox360 and still have 5+ bubbles and people who are just trying to counter their rants are getting less and less bubbles. If soemthing isn't done about these fandroids with multiple accounts the balance of this site will go down the drain. Most of us will be forced to leave since there will hardly be any news with proper valid comments. Any positive news regarding 360 becomes full of crying droids and turning it into some sort of catastrophe for 360. And all negative news for ps3 is a victory celebration for these blind bats.

Word to the wise pls try to control the rampant sonyisim on this site or just change it to news4sonydefensedroids..

[floppy]

Hmm, 22 minute install vs $22+ dollars for a few extra missions.

[alan001]

Looks like MS is worrying about Sony's success in europe

[rawd]

I think MS is worried about alot of things. And they should be

[wow14]

Right, with nearly twice the world-wide install base than the PS3. With the highest attach rates than any-one else in the business.
And with over half of the total industry-revenue.

I'm so sure its MS that is worried. Not Sony who's been cutting prices and ripping-out-features all the while trying to catch up in the features-gap.

Right. Sounds like just a little bit of wishful thinking on your part.

[wow4u]

Looks like you're worried that Rockstar chose to give the Xbox 360 the ONLY COMPLETE experience.

[Hangmat]

MS says they own the GTAIV launch because they have exclusive episodes. These will include only a few missions, and are expected in mid 2009. The PS3 will get other downloadable content for GTAIV, so it isn't such a big deal, though MS thinks it is..

[The_Engineer]

what they are shoveling, DLC will not be in box, DLC won't be available on launch day (anyone that think so is a blind fanboy idiot) and since most people NEVER finish the original story, DLC is worthless for this type of title.

[cartman313]

Funny you mention that. I have owned all the GTA's and never did finish any of them. I would do a mission, complete it, then somehow get all caught up in blowing sh1t up. So, DLC is the least of my concerns.

[DARK WITNESS]

MS and Sony can fight this one out all they like.

i am going to be a happy gamer playing what may be one of the greatest games of all time ( maybe ).

[DARK WITNESS]

hum wont let me edit for some reason.

ok, for those who disagreed, can you explain why ?

i would really like to know .

[Rayko]

5GB, 10 GB or even 15 GB?

[TheExecutive]

Who cares? As long as its a smoother experience...

[SUP3R]

This whole installation requirement is starting to become a norm and honestly no one cares.
I prefer to install 5GB for seamless movement between cities and missions instead of a loading screen everytime I cross the bridge or borders.

[jctoyou]

rayko,how many disks do ya think the 360 will be on? oh and how many points do ya think they will charge for the extra content?

[jessupj]

Which it very well could be. Remember how rockstar were begging M$ for them to be able to cashe on the 360 HDD?

But we'll see. I expect both versions to be amazing :)

[KillaManiac]

Harddrive installing means squat...

PS3 can put in any ammount of harddrive space (most labtop sizes) into it or use External USB harddrives...

20gig 360 harddrive seperately? 100$
120gig 360 harddrive seperately? 180$

250gig external harddrive? 60-80$
500gig external harddrive? 120-150$

So whats your point?...I dont think even 50gigs will matter...and once you beat game why would you need the content left in your computer.

Its like saying Once you install a game on your PC you can NEVER remove it.
Just delete it, and if you want to play couple months later..let it install for 5-10min (you still have ur save file in other folder on ps3).

So who cares?...Sounds like posters who are xbots are getting desperate on things to complain about...

Its just sad

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Thats realy all he needed to say then he could have just walked out of the room, whistling a happy tune. 50 million should make that "exclusive episodic content" more like a sequal or expansion pack. Sony, Instead of worrying about peddling plastic disc that take 22 min and 5gb to install on the HD, you should have payed attention to losing such a big exclusive game. I wonder will it take 2 or 3 hours to install this on the HD, and if you own a 40gb version will this be the only game that you could play before the HD fills up?

[Liquid Ocelot]

Well 360 owners get exclusive episodic content while PS3 owners get some exclusive games from Rockstar i think I'll take the exclusive games i can live without the episodic content.

[spandexxking]

hey at least the ps3 hard drive has the capacity. my friend, who has an xbox, has like 4 demos and the rest is made up of arcade games hes forever having to delete stuff off his HDD. how long is it going to be till 360 owners are gonna have to start deleting other stuff to make room for this content?

oops supposed to be at #10

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

You mean "game"? and I bet any amount of money you lose LA Noire.

[Liquid Ocelot]

Yes i meant game sorry about that and no we won't lose LA Noire as an exclusive and you want to know why because the game is being funded by Sony thats why.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

MS funded UT3 with the success of Gears of War and we all see how that turned out.

[jeanm3306]

Jack Tretton said that Rockstar wanted to make it multi-platform, and Jack Tretton agreed because take two let them have the next big game for Rockstar. Heck we might even get the exclusive via PSN. after a couple of month.

[MikeGdaGod]

oh what, you mean the TWO extra missions that you'll have to pay for 6 MONTHS after the game is released? you can't be serious!

i guess you forgot, or choose to forget, the PS3 will have its own DLC and its more likely it'll be free or cheaper because sony wasn't stupid enough to pay $50 mil for it.

[jessupj]

"exclusive episodic content that you'll have to wait 6+ months for, that not many people care about except for bragging rights" that the PS3 doesn't have

[titntin]

...and people say Sony are arrogant? :)

I guess if your catalogue for the coming year is not busting full of brilliant exclusives, you have to try and hijack the biggest cross platform game, and especially when you've paid so much money for the extra content!:)
He neglects to mention that you will have to pay MS extra money for the extra content...:)

[Hugh Hefner]

Not brilliant exclusives???

Gears of War 2 - announced at GDC

Ninja Gaiden 2

Fable 2

Splinter Cell: Conviction

Alan Wake

Too Human

Lost Odyssey

Project Offset

Halo Wars

..and some more unannounced..

So stop the "Oh, MS has no games in 2008 bullsh*t" Of course Sony has a stellar lineup as well, but you can't just overlook the 360 one.

[Scarfy]

Gears of War 2 - announced at GDC
It was..? Can I borrow your time machine because GDC isn't for another week!

Ninja Gaiden 2
Only hardcore gamers need apply

Fable 2
Haven't played the series, so no comment

Splinter Cell: Conviction
Haven't played the series, so no comment

Alan Wake
Over the last few years I've seen precious little information about this game

Too Human
Wait, this is STILL in development?!

Lost Odyssey
Didn't this recently get 2.5 / 5?

Project Offset
Never heard of it

Halo Wars
It's an RTS. Don't expect people to buy it just because it says "Halo" on the box.

[SUP3R]

Gears of War 2 - announced at GDC
(So far early reports say it's definitely not as good as the first)

Ninja Gaiden 2
(Early reports say the graphics seem to have been dumbed down, repetitive gameplay, nothing original)

Fable 2
(So far so good)

Splinter Cell: Conviction
(This franchise is starting to show it's age. Again reports claim nothing original)

Alan Wake
(So far so good, very good positive reports about this one)

Too Human
(Reports are that they're trying to do too much at one time and believe gamers are going to find it frustrating)

Lost Odyssey
(Standard turn based JRPG with a good story line, everything else has been rated mediocre)

Project Offset
(looks good)

Halo Wars
(Refer to Scarfy's comment for this one)

Lastly, I don't consider titles exclusives if they're also available for PC.

[meepmoopmeep]

"So stop the "Oh, MS has no games in 2008 bullsh*t" Of course Sony has a stellar lineup as well, but you can't just overlook the 360 one."

wow, didn't the PS3 get all this mudslinging in 2007 with people continually saying it has no games?

[titntin]

@ hugh, if you read carefully, you'll see I said it didn't have many, not that it didn't have any!

GOW2 - From what I hear is not announced and won't hit the market this year.
Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Halo Wars - ill get these, though only Halo Wars and possibly Fable 2 really excite me.

Too Human - jury's out till anyone gets to play it!

Lost Odyssey - I'm at the end of disc 2 - it's extremely average and nothing for the platform to 'crow about' at all. Play it for a long time and tell me I'm wrong...you won't, cause it really is nothing special (it paused downstairs while I type this!)

Project Offset, Alan Wake. Could be anything. No announcement dates, no videos, no gameplay, no reports. It's 'wish ware' and only spoken about because theres so little else to get worked up about in the release schedule.

Yes there ARE unannounced exclusive on the platform - I have worked on one of them, and have just been approached to work on another! But they are not the kind of thing that's gonna please the hardcore, as MS are gunning for the casual gamer market of the WII and have been concentrating heavily on this. Motion controller and games to be announced shortly.... you wanna get excited by party family gun games?Be my guest!!

So I stand by my statement, there are some good titles to come this year, but not too many that are exclusive to 360, which is why they need to try and claim some of the multiformat ones for themselves.
I play them where I find em, and like to think I'm impartial (though I guess no one is truly impartial). 360 had the market for excellent exclusive games last year, this year looks like Sony's...

[Lucreto]

To convert me they need more than that.

Halo wars looks good. I hate Halo but love RTS games and the creators of Age of Empires are involved so it will be good. Can't wait for it to hit the PC.

It will hit the PC as RTS games are difficult to play on consoles.

[Marceles]

bubble for titntin

[Genki]

bickering and bragging about a multiplatform game is pathetic?

Wow, this sounds like the bratty kid in the neighborhood gloating about having the better Batman toy.

Sorry, but I'm just calling it how I see it. This is irrelevant, they didn't need to go this route. Yes, you'll have more content on GTA4. Noted. Your version will probably sell more for a couple of a reasons. Noted.

No need to beat our favorite dead horse...arrogance.

[bumnut]

does sony have exclusive content too?

if not, it does not take a genius to see that 360 version will be better (from a content perspective, i am not referring to graphics/gameplay)

[bumnut]

some people appear to think that having less game content is better.

im not sure why

[MikeGdaGod]

the ps3 will have its own DLC

[SageFrancis]

They'll own it until the console your playing it on RROD's and you're stuck without the console for a few weeks whilst all the PS3 players will be like "have you completed GTA4 yet? what? RROD?" Damn I completed that sht 2 weeks ago and you still aint done the 1st mission?"

Darn that microsft

[jordan8445]

As far as most casual fans know or are concerned, GTA only exists on the Playstation. Microsoft isn't even a contender, the 360 is beaten. It was the minute it used DVD9 and only worked 77% of the time.

[gamesR4fun]

no hd and pay for crap online service.

[sak500]

Just like Devil may cry, Katamari, Ace combat and now GTA...STFU DROID, sony has handful of exclusives left which also move over to 360 side.

[Ghoul]

why do you people allways reflect the us sales onto the worldwide sales, xbox360 is ONLY selling better then ps3 in USA

Gta IV will sell more on ps3 then on the 360 in Europe simple fakt and with the huge momentum the ps3 is gaining atm and GTA beeing a Playstation brand ever since people will buy it on the ps3.

when you say gta people connect it to the playstation.

its about the average joe and those really dont care about extra content because they simply DONT KNOW about it, im pretty sure they will sell more on the ps3

[TheExecutive]

the 360 version will sell better. I dont really have any doubts about that. Not because of extra content, but because of user base at the moment.

[Hugh Hefner]

"when you say gta people connect it to the playstation"

That will change after this next GTA, especially with MS airing commercials noting the "exclusive content only on 360", which will show the game only with the 360 logo. Also, MS will very likely drop the 360's price before its release, giving the newcomers the option to buy a cheaper system with the most complete version of the game.

[ceedubya9]

But for a game like GTA, America will probably make up a large portion of those sales. It just caters more to the western gamers. As of right now, to say that GTA will sell more in Europe is not fact but pure speculation. How many multiplatform games have sold more in Europe, or worldwide for that matter, on the PS3 compared to the 360. The PS3 is having much success right now, but lets not get it twisted. The PS3 is still behind. There is no timed exclusivity this time around. You may be surprised at how different the outcome may be when this game releases.

[kingjkv]

Are people really that frusttaed to wait half an hour. Jesus Christ, they should't even put that as a negative regarding the PS3. Some people in this world are just beyond this world. I'm buying the PS3 version and while it's installing imma read the book and get some understanding of the game before i make comments on how the controls suck or what not. READ the manual u people.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

So your buying the PC, opps I mean PSInstallME version?

[Mr_Showtime1]

ive herd some pretty bad, play-ons of console names, but was the worst of them all

[Kleptic]

Jason...Your jokes suck...become funny, or stop posting...seriously...one or the other...something has got to give...you are killing us...

[LocustGR]

Agree. In Europe people think GTA--->only Playstation, like Pro Evolution Soccer and Fifa.

[ceedubya9]

And although Sony is doing well at this point, Microsoft may have a bit of an edge here as NA is its main (and it lots of cases, only territory). This will be the first time that GTA has launched simultaneously on a Sony and Microsoft platform, and as of right now, the 360 has the largest install base. So far, the important multiplatform releases have sold better for the 360. Madden for instance, has sold better on the 360, and in the previous console generations you really couldn't find anyone playing the game without a Sony controller. Things have changed. People may not really care what controller they play the game with as long as they can play it. I think a good indication of how things will turn out will be seen once we get some worldwide sales for Devil May Cry 4. Being Japanese made game, if the 360 somehow edges out the PS3 in worldwide game sales, then you have to think that Microsoft will be looking good for the GTA4 release.

[swordmasterphoen]

MS is only talking about what they can talk...America. Everywhere, except in America; the PS3 version will outsell the 360 version, just like the PS3 itself is outselling the 360 everywhere, with the exception of America.

But hey, it's MS; and I'm so tired of their arrogance and useless superior thoughts that I don't even care what they say...simply because it doesn't matter, the game will sell on both consoles, there will be places where the 360 sells more and places where the PS3 sells more. Currently, the important thing is the hardware; and worldwide the PS3 is outselling the 360...which is why they are worried and say that owning the launch of GTA4 is important.

[Wraith001]

You sure? I know more people in the real world in the UK who have 360 than PS3 and they all want GTA4.

[swordmasterphoen]

Well man, I'm just talking about the facts. UK is not the rest of the world with the exception of America, and I'm sure you don't know everyone in the UK. These are the facts:

- PS3 is outselling the 360 in Europe. And in some countries, it's even outselling the Wii. Want me to name a country?. Spain.
- PS3 is outselling the 360 in Japan by a wide margin.

This means that if these facts are any indication, raises should rise when the game is out. Am I sure?, of course not, I can't see the future man...can you?. The thing is, I talk about the facts, not just because a know some people who live in Europe and have a PS3 and want the game (even though I do know people on that situation). Heh. And by the way, those people I mentioned, are also in the real world...

[Wraith001]

Wow, i find some peoples comments amusing here...

1.1 - I can only laugh
Everything will be the same on both consoles, except the "ultimate experience" you will have is 2 extra episodes....

<sarcasm>

:| I really want a 360 now </sarcasm>

Yet when a game is released multiplat and the PS3 has a better frame rate or graphics it is heralded as a reason to buy the system over the other. Yet extra content, which will let u play more of the game, see more of the game, add longevity and ultimately offer more for your money means nothing???? Personally i would rather have more game than slightly better frame rate or graphics.

1.2 -
Well lets hope so because even a Turok game sells PS3. GTA4 is the only saving grace for the 360 for early 2007. GTA4 is not going to make or break the PS3 and that's the truth.

I guess that just goes to show how poor the software release so far is for the system that Turok is selling consoles. To say GTA4 is not a system seller is ridiculous. I think you also meant 2008 btw.

As for which system, probably 360, i have many more friends on XBL plus i like the idea of extra missions. Another point that would put me of the PS3 version would be the install, if it did indeed do this.

[Hugh Hefner]

"Yet when a game is released multiplat and the PS3 has a better frame rate or graphics it is heralded as a reason to buy the system over the other."

WRONG. Only time this has happened recently (excluding Oblivion) was with Burnout Paradise, which you really had to drive to some specific places to get some kind of slowdown on the 360 version.

Other than that, the reason you state has always been the reason to get multiplats on the 360.

Oh, and Devil May Cry 4 did not use motion blur on the 360, which made it seem much sharper than the PS3 evrsion ;) You all saw the screenshots.

[Wraith001]

I was merely stating the fact that when it does happen, the response you get from PS3 fanboys, not the actual amount of games where it does happen :).

[The_Engineer]

if the DLC is FREE!!!!!!!

knowing MS's history, do you REALLY think they wont charge for DLC??

[FirstknighT]

Considering the GTA franchise is what created the ps2, this is gonna be HUGE for the 360. Plus I expect some flaws on the ps3 since Rockstar already stated many problems with it hence the delay. The number 1 seller for 2008 will be the best on the 360. No question!

[jeanm3306]

how much exclusive content are we talking about. To me it might not be much if you think about it. It might be just an extra hour or half hour. or could be more clothing. SO i don't think the extra content make a big deal.

[MikeGdaGod]

yes and the ps3 will STILL out-sell the 360 just like last year when MS released the most-hyped/best-selling game of all time.

360's time is OVER

[Rayko]

Why don`t you guys care that you have to install 5 GB (maybe more in the future) on your harddrive? that´s a huge issue if you need to do that with many more games in the future. First of all you need to wait a long time for the install and second, you need to buy a lot of harddrive.
-I wanna play FF....wait I have to plug in my other harddrive first.
-Lets play hot shots golf 5....Ok, I deleted the file because I ran out of space, let me install it again ......5 min.....10 min....5 min OK now we can play.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Here is a video that shows how much faster Burnout loads up on the 360 compare to PS3 (73 sec for 360 and 96 sec for PS3)

[Mr_Showtime1]

installion helps a game no matter what, the only reason xbox doesnt have 5gb installs are because,
majority of xbox owners like myslef only have 20gb hdd
not all xbox onwers even have a hdd drive at all, which would therefore totaly exclude thousands of gamers getting to play this game. of just like burnouts online.

[jeanm3306]

installing a content on a hard drive is a benefit. i don't remember being a disadvantage. Beside it's 40,60, or 80gb. That's a lot of space, i don't remember people complaining their running out of space. heck i haven't even use 20gb on my 60gb. YOu only have to install it once. beside i can buy a 250b hard for what your paying for a 120gb on a 360.

[Ru]

friendly and civilized.

Members who are unable to behave in a mature and respectful manner will be temporarily or permanently restricted from posting in the Gamer Zone.

[Noodlecup]

2 extra episodes just removes the fact that your console could blow up while playing it? I don't see why anyone would want to play GTA while fearing for their console's life

[Wraith001]

Thats getting real old now mate, move along.

[boodybandit]

doesn't have games but I doubt either will change any time soon while people take shots at the opponents.

[JohnRico]

I think that if Microsoft really wanted to they can promote the 360 version even more then they promoted Halo 3 if they want to accomplish this goal

[kewlkat007]

I will get the version, with "achievements, Rumble, and hopefully extra content...

While everyone is pledging their legion the games Originated "Home", which is really the PC.

I'll go with the added benefits the other console will not have...as well as wait for "gameplay" Mechanics and reviews..

Choice my friend, is a great thing...

IMHO, On this article: I expect the 360 to sell more based on installment-base and depending if MS decides a $250 GTA4 bundle. Sony will get plenty of sales because of this game no doubt.

You have to look at the Ps3, which have many good titles competing against each other, and the 360's 08 tittles are a tad weaker, so this is a bright spot for the 360 console, regardless.

[ScottEFresh]

I'll be buying the PS3 version.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

And you will be playing that same game while 360 owners get to continue the GTA4 story with DLC, that I'm sure will include new weapons, vehicles and MP maps. You will also be buying a new HD so you can install the damn thing. Have fun.

[SUP3R]

Are you a rep for Microsoft and their downloadable content? How much do they pay you?
Also what the hell are you talking about with "need a new hard drive"?
LOL!!!
I didn't know 5GB=40GB these days.
I would take seamless gameplay over loading screens any day.

[The_Engineer]

too bad I installed a 250gb HDD in my PS3 in less than 5 minutes.

jason and his 360 god = PWNED

[rofldings]

Stfu, out of ALL the games I have 14, only 3 need an installation.

Out of those 3, the installation size is TWO GB, NOT FIVE. Capcom f*cked up, stop trying to spread FUD for every PS3 game.

[Lanontscuz]

this is more than killing cops and bystanders and grabbing hookers...that was ok back in the beginning when i was younger but now that im older (27) and a bit more mature that the kind of gameplay is just not in my taste anymore...hope it has a lot of good missions relevant to the story itself...im just nitpicking and really hoping this game steps it to the hype its given....

[Silellak]

Yeah, I don't understand how exactly "Extra exclusive content" isn't a reason to prefer the 360 version of GTA4 to the PS3 version, but "you can install the game and slightly reduce load times" is a reason to prefer the PS3 version of DMC4 to the 360 version.

It's a double standard, and it's silly. I'm sure both versions will be amazing games, but the fact is that the exclusive content will likely help move the 360 version of the game and perhaps even a few 360's - IF enough people know about it, which is a big IF. That's why I capitalized it. Because it's BIG.

My theory with GTA4 has always been that it will sell more on the 360 and will sell more 360's than PS3's, because Average Joe Gamer doesn't CARE that the series "started" with Sony. Final Fantasy "started" with Nintendo, after all. More people still own 360's than PS3's, and so many will buy it for 360 - and people who don't own a next gen system yet may find themselves picking up a 360 instead of a PS3, because "all of their friends have 360's".

Also, if you want a system for JUST GTA4, and don't care about ANYTHING else, then the Arcade package of the 360 suddenly looks more tempting than the cheapest PS3 SKU. Assuming there isn't a PS3 price drop around the release of GTA4 - or better, a GTA4 pack-in.

Keep in mind, though, that I'm mostly referring to North America here. Other markets are still wide-open. In the end, the game will be awesome on both systems, and will help move a large number of both systems. Perhaps even more than some exclusive games do.

Oh, and Microsoft saying they "own" the GTA4 launch is a silly, over-confident, and unrealistic thing to say.

[heavymetal3k]

Dont know if the arcade sku would work considering dlc of the game.

[Silellak]

I see what you're saying, but I think people who would buy the Arcade SKU aren't the sort of people who'd care that much about DLC anyway.

I was just thinking super-casual gamers who ONLY want ONE game and so they're looking for the cheapest way to play that game. GTA is the sort of game that brings out the super-casual gamers.

[vloeistof]

im getting ps3 version

[wageslave]

Good. We hope you enjoy it.

But know two things: 1) you're not getting the complete game and 2) you will be in a minority.

This forum is intellectually dishonest if it thinks otherwise.

[Jdoki]

It'll be interesting to see which prevails in sales. I think it'll be a close run thing.

Personally I know a couple of people who are buying PS3's just for GTAIV. I've asked them why they want it on PS3 and it really came down to the PlayStation brand. Grand Theft Auto is seen as more closely tied with the PlayStation than with XBox. They owned the previous versions on PS2, so will naturally progress to the PS3.

Also, the extra content the 360 is getting didn't bother them... From their perspective they are buying the full game so anything else is unimportant. They are more casual gamers though so DLC isn't something they really know or care about.

Although I'll miss not having the 360's extra content, more people I know will be playing on the PS3 and I can't ignore the potential of GTAIV multiplayer - so PS3 for me.

[Silellak]

Interesting, I have't heard anyone say they're getting a PS3 for GTA4 - but then I haven't heard them say they're getting a 360 for it, either. It's all just been speculation on my part.

Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe a lot people view GTA and Sony as two franchises tied at the hip ala MGS and Final Fantasy. If so, this could mean significantly closer sales than I originally guessed.

Either way, it'll be very interesting when the NPD numbers for April and May are released. I am still waiting - just out of sheer curiosity - to see if DMC4 sold better on the 360 or on the PS3 in North America. That could be an indicator of how GTA4 might do. Big franchise, formerly Sony, now multiplatform...

[Jdoki]

Yeah, I'm interested to see how DMC4 and Burnout did in comparative sales.

Lets say the above games (and GTAIV) all sell similar amounts... Does that mean the PS3 versions sold better (as there's a smaller install base), or that the Xbox versions failed to sell as well (because of the bigger install base).

The important figure here is % of install base who pick up the game. If the PlayStation number is higher it could show that either PS3 owners have been waiting for their old franchises to reappear, or that they are just more aware of those franchises. Are 360 owners as 'aware' of Devil May Cry; are 360 owners really just interested in FPS games?

If this is the case maybe Microsoft haven't 'stolen' as many PS2 owners as they thought.

It's interesting, and there's just too many factors to consider. I think I'll just go back to enjoying the games on the platform that suits me best!!

[Silellak]

Well, if you want to view it like a gaming company, total units sold is all they really care about, because that means profit. I doubt they care what percentage of the userbase bought the game as long as more people bought it for System A than System B, because in the end, that's how they'll determine where to put future releases and that's how they'll decide if Game X deserves a sequel on Systems A, B, or both.

[ceedubya9]

You know, I said something similar earlier above, but I got like five disagrees. Be prepared. Anyway, bubbles for you regardless.

[Jdoki]

I totally agree Silellak, bottom line profit will always be king.

But profit does not directly correlate to units sold. We don't know how much a particular game costs to dev (in most cases), so Game A may sell less but make more profit than Game B because it cost less to make.

Devs/publishers will definitely be interested in seeing how much of the install base buys a product because it gives them an indication of potential sales for a particular genre/IP/style of game.

It's also a source of information showing whether one console's install base is more/less receptive to new IP's or established IP's.

As I said in my previous post, there's far too many factors to consider and in terms of comapring who 'wins' the sales of GTAIV it's probably a fairer comparison (from a non-profit point of view) to compare % of install base who purchases.

[AliC]

Wants GTA4 already :D

[Funky Town_TX]

if M$ and $ony would just worry about there console. If the 360 owns GTA then cool. They don't need to act like kids and say it. Be confident in what you do and don't act like you can't get your a$$ kicked.

[mariusmal]

i own both consoles and im going with the xbox360 version because of the DLC. yes i remember that the ps brand made GTA the game that it is today, yes i own all of them for the ps2. i have them because they were the best at the time... i dont give a damn about the brand, i buy what is good.

[meepmoopmeep]

it will do well in both platforms... why are companies taking this console war out with a game release? obvioulsy the 360 will sell more games because of the user base but the PS3 will also sell a lot of copies and i think both sides will see an increase in console sales.

with this crap aside, it 's going to be an awesome game

[Greysturm]

Yet they are perfectly okay with changing disks every five minutes, having texture loading issues for their games (mass effect), having to wait for 20 sec loading everytime they enter an area (lost odysey). sorry to burst yuou bubble but if it prevents all of the above i have no problem waiting less than half an hour to get a smoother and RROD (which takes three weeks mmm... and i hear no complaints) free experience along with faster lag free online when playing more than 4 people.

[The_Engineer]

have turned on you, you grasp at ANYTHING that makes your console looks like it's still competitive.

Dont let PS3 owners be shut up by vicious and vile xbots, lets all give ourselves bubbles.

[phony force slayer]

mass effect loading times was down to the engine they used
they used unreal engine 3 for that game. it wasnt the consol mind you it was the engine but dont listen to this user hes talking the truth
a reakon 20 diagrees i think
stupid phony defence force battle fleet

[jonnyjd1]

Yes, the 360 will have some extra content. Does that mean they "own" the launch. Not necessarily. MS also has said they had the greatest launch in history with the 360 (not exactly true). And again in Nov/Dec of last year, they said they had the greatest release schedule ever.

I grow tired of this "greatest ever"/"owning" twist they have been using lately on certain stories. Enough. Self promotion is fine but this is bordering on some kind of self-importance complex.

I don't know which version I'll get yet, but it certainly won't be determined by either MS or Sony claiming that their version is the best.

...end of line...

[Jdoki]

Absolutely agree...

MS (and Sony) can claim 'the greatest ever' whatever the hell they like. But in business the 'greatest thing ever' is sustainable profit... and Nintendo really have that sown up compared to the other two!!!

[Silellak]

Yeah, both companies need to get their ego in check, badly.

[Coke-a-Cola]

The Gamer Zone is for members who want a more friendly and civilized discussion. This section is heavily moderated by the N4G staff, so leave your fanboyism at the door please. Members who are unable to behave in a mature and respectful manner will be temporarily or permanently restricted from posting in the Gamer Zone. Using words such as Xbots and Sony droids, or other words from the console war vocabulary, is strictly prohibited in this Zone.

Then they publish Mine is BIGGER than yours type articles. .............Lord give me strength. LOL

[Says you]

outside of here is not the only one that is going to get this game right considering this game is going to be sold on europe japan but mostly likely will sell better in europe it might sell well here but since the population of europe is 710 million its going to sell more over there for the PS3 version then over here!.

[SIX]

Will own GTA on launch day. On my PS3.

[avacadosnorkel]

That extra content for 360 isn't going to be free.

[Jdoki]

Has this been confirmed?

You're probably right...

I just kinda assumed that it would be free as MS paid a few million to Rockstar on our behalf! :)

It's obvious that both games are going to get DLC - I just wonder how big or how much the 360 exclusive stuff will add to the game overall.

[Arkham]

It won't be free, nor will it be available for at least a year.

There's a difference between DLC and extra missions/episodes. Rockstar has suggested that both consoles will get DLC, but that there will be 2 exclusive missions/episodes for the 360.

By being vague, Rockstar is leaving open the slim possibility that there will be other episodes for the PS3 at some point, and that additional DLC in the form of clothes, cars, weapons, whatever might be offered for both systems.

I personally don't care either way, I just want the core damn game. :)

[aiphanes]

They they charge us about $10 per episode and its only like 2 to 3 episodes?...by the time these episodes come out in 2009...GTA5 will be announced exclusive on the PS3......nobody will care...and we all know Rock Star will make some content for the PS3....

[avacadosnorkel]

Microsoft said they OWN this game.

Prepare yourselfs for 360 GTA ads on TV, cereal boxes, fast food chains, and soda pop bottles.

[Alcohog]

haha, true. They will most definitely be running ads that imply 360 exclusivity.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

The average GTA player dosent even know about the 360 content so how do you guys thing MS will own...plz spare Im getting it on playstion because the controls suck on xbox always have and always will its a playstation game..

[Brixxer600]

You can bet that the average GTA fan will know soon enough, MS will obviously be hitting the ad campaign very hard, someone already said cereal packets, fast food chains, etc, etc, probably not too far from the truth, that's what this whole article is about, not who's got the best version but who's got a version full stop, people will know that they can get it on 360 or PS3 and MS are just hoping to hit PS3 sales.

I'll get it on PS3 but only because it's a newer console, as far as controllers go, 360 all the way for me.

[mmj]

I have already pre-ordered this for the PS3.

My reason for choosing PS3 version over 360 all being equal is the same reason as for Burnout Paradise - my PS3 is a far quieter console than my 360, call me anal but the noise from my 360 when it's in full swing drives me nuts.

Xbox 360 will need more than just a few extra side quests (which I doubt will be free anyway) to force me to change.

[kewlkat007]

get rid of your Xbox 360. It's not like the noise will ever go away.

[Jdoki]

Yeah, the noise of the console is definitely a purchasing factor for me when choosing multiplat games.

I bought a 360 on launch, so had no idea that it sounded like a jet engine!!!

I just hope it RRoD's sometime near the end of warranty so I get a quieter replacement model!! (I'm on my third 360 now)

Apologies to any sensitive 360 owners. This isn't meant as a flamebait comment. I love my 360 dearly... Without it I wouldn't have played Crackdown, BioShock or Mass Effect last year - but MS really need to work on dropping the decibels on any future revisions!!

[Chug]

...My wallet tells me otherwise. I'll have to pass on the 360 version.

[DarkSniper]

With increasing consumer interest, PLAYSTATION® 3 will see superior sales. As the numbers show, PS3 has been the busier sku being sold in retail stores as XBOX 360 embarks on a sharp decline from what was supposed to be the best holiday season in the history of gaming. That alone was ridiculed the still increasing rate of defective consoles, and XBOX Live server issues.

Grand Theft Auto has been a household name to Playstation consumers since it's iteration on PS1. From GTAIII to San Andreas, Playstation's superior version has always seen greater sales than it's XBOX port.

History will not change. Consumers dont play games on garbage systems, which means it will not be played on 360.

$niper

[BigE]

Dude man youre definately our PS3 Mascot. Props to you. But you dont talk in third person anymore.. whats up with that.. lol... but props overall. add me on psn = BiigE

[Dark Sniper]

Dark Sniper only hopes that this time the Waitstation3 version is at least as good as the XBOX 360 one, as this has not been the case in the past. It seems that only the superior Microsoft hardware is able to run this game the way it was intended, and not offer any technical difficulties like the PS2 version did.

$niper

[THAMMER1]

I think so.

[kingboy]

It will be beneficial to Sony more taking into account the huge and undecided ps2 fan base waiting upon a GTA IV next gen release to finally make the transition onto the ps3.. without doubt it will help move a substantial amount of ps3 units for Sony than Microsoft..
Talk about extra content,how many people do finish GTA games?in my opinion not many

[carl ps3]

Having Gamer Zone and Open Zone is CR*P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-/

[Alcohog]

What does it matter which console sells more copies of GTA4 at launch? Is that really a success for the company?

[ThaGeNeCySt]

it can be if a lot of those sales come from "new" comers who chose to buy a 360 or PS3 for GTA IV.

[Teabag Sony]

You guys can have a little PS3 funboy orgy while you wait for it to install. By the way, if blu-ray is so great and holds so much data, what is up with all these games having to install data on to your hard drives? Between DMC4 and GTA4 thats more than 10G of data. You have thrown away about 1/4 of your hard drive if you own a 40 gig on just two games.

[BrianC6234]

You know zero about computers and console hardware. The install is to improve the game. The 360 would have it too but all 360s don't have hard drives. Oops, a major weakness of the 360. And that tiny DVD format is going to kill the 360 soon. When you need five discs to hold a single game Xbots will be the ones crying. Bwahaha.

[NO_PUDding]

How do you own a launch?

Good job Microsoft. They seem not to realise that this "established Competitor" is just that, becuase it looks to the future (cell, Blu-Ray) rather than focusing on the past.

GTA IV I will be getting on PS3, but I am happy to get it there. All my friends with 360's only (and thats the majority of them) have said they won't get GTA IV. It's a dead franchise, now it is working on it's name alone and won't sell anythign like San Andreas.

The name still IS associated with PlayStation though, and the reason Sony hasn't used 50 million out of their philanthropy funds is becuase they know, regardless of DLC, this game will sell PS3's only. No one will get a 360 just for the DLC.

And finally, Sony will no doubt have more options with the next GTA, if they even want it. They will pay up for it, or leave it to Microsoft to wallow in the past again, liek they do with all their Halo Edition 360's for ridiculous reasons like Chinese New Year.

Have a good time 360 players, becuase you've lost out on the high points of GTA, and PS3 users can look to the future, and actually see prospects in GTA V. As well as play GTA IV.

[Korosuke]

It's easy to guess from recent software sales trend.
US, Xbox360 version wins.
EU/PAL, PS3 version wins.
Japan, never released...

[LiquifiedArt]

What idiot would bash the ps3 for having the ability to INSTALL a game, is ridiculous. All you Microsoft FUD Spreaders are idiots. LOL. Microsoft is losing things to spread on the internet to bash the PS3. XMB will be accessible at GDC 08' with FW 2.20 and HOME will be released in the next couple months. keep dreaming you 10$/hr payed Kids. Your workin for the WRONG company. Microsoft is something most people view as a "Nuisance"

[scrillakiller]

sony doesnt need to boast every gamer out ther knows gat is playstation.

[zenkai]

Is this the PS3 section of news for gamers? What do these sections mean if we get "news" like this here.

[avacadosnorkel]

The series is showing its age to be honest. I doubt Rockstar wants to be making GTA forever. This might be the last one.

[khellendros1]

MS will have greater success in NA because of the sheer number of people who have a 360. Everywhere else the PS3 will have more success. I'll take world wide dominance over regional dominance any day.

[wageslave]

yes, and the world-wide Xbox 360 install base is bigger. Further, GTA is a western-centric title -- it sells more-units-per console in the west than it does in the East.

What you say is correct, but your conclusion is a non sequitor.

[aiphanes]

And I do not want my Xbox 360 to die from the RROD! Seriously!

My PS3 has been on folding@home since March 2007...and I am close to 900 workunits with no issues...I serious do not think a Xbox 360 can stay on 24 hours a day for a year at peak processing power and stay alive.

[Brixxer600]

And my 360 is a launch day console that has been on for probably months in total, so there's not really a point to be made there.

[avacadosnorkel]

http://www.gamepro.com/news...

[Silellak]

Sadly, the sort of super-casual gamer who flocks to GTA just won't care that much about extra content you have to download and pay for. If it were an exclusive expansion pack you could grab in the stores...maybe. But even then, probably not.

In the end, Microsoft may've made a huge mistake when they paid 50 million dollars for something that a majority of the game owners won't ever know about.

But hey, I'm not gonna hate on mistakes I can profit from :P

RE: 31 Below

How is paying $5-10 for extra missions with a storyline any different than paying $30-40 for an expansion pack?

In the end, we can't really decide what is or isn't worth the price until the exact nature of the extra content and the price of the content are released.

[AceLuby]

That DLC is a sham? Why shell out $60, then pay $5-$10 for each 'episode' plus other, non-exclusive content, when this should all be in the game at launch?

[AceLuby]

Guess everyone likes DLC that should be in the original game, hmm, must be in the minority that doesn't like to pay for 'extra' content.

[xionpunk]

Looking forward to this on PS3. Im actually glad the games confined to liberty city now. SA, while an awesome game, took forever to get anywhere. GTA is gonna rock.

[n00dl3s]

So the annoying part is that they say they already "own the launch" because of the DLC.... when THE #$%@#%@ CONTENT WON'T BE AVAILABLE AT LAUNCH.

This is what happens when you allow moron's voices to be heard.

[THC CELL]

PS3 will be the one to own along side this game we also have the Home coming out

wait i will see better load times and drawing distance
unlike x box cough burnout cough

Ps3 is the game to play gta on you wont be spending your time in the red light zone all the time when you can run free round the city enjoying ya self

will see who comes on top when gta comes out in april

PS3 ftw!!

[crank]

Seriously, it's like everyone in America is afraid to say Micro rushed their **** system and ****** just about everyone that ever bought one for the first six months. AND YET AND YET

they have the most rabid fanboys in the world, and they are treated like total ****!

LOL in my book, I don't exactly think N treats their people right but Sony is on the ball this generation.

Many people like me have been predicting a Sony win for ages, though, I truly do hope M keeps exclusives coming because there is nothing worse than multiplatform EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME.

I really just wish they would have taken TIME to design that system. Great games, **** system.

Oh well.

[wageslave]

What we dont know (yet) is how Rockstar has setup its marketing plan seperate from Sony or MS? Together with MS? or Sony? This will speak volumes about what happens at launch.

One way or not, hard-core GTA fans know that the only complete game is on the Xbox 360, no advertising necessary.

So, if any of *those* people havent bought a new console, this will certainly help them choose Xbox 360.

Any kind of passive gamers *are* going to hear that Xbox 360 is the only complete version...

Its a little unreasonable to think that the Exclusive Complete Version wont help duel-console owners choose the Xbox 360 version...

I think Kim's correct, MS is going to "own" this game.

[AceLuby]

But the 'complete' game won't be available until at the earliest this holiday season, possibly not until 2009. I'll have moved on to FF13, Gears 2, KZ2, LBP, and Alan Wake by that time...

[Chug]

Remember, when you go into the store to buy this game, regardless of which console you get it for, you're getting the SAME GAME.
You're so called "complete version" will be a couple of bonus missions with an over inflated (MS like) price tag. Sorry, try again.

[Z501]

MS is going to tell people what's included in the 2 episodes.
How can you own something that won't be out for months after release?
Depending on relese date, MGS4 will be out in June, so PS3 owners will be on to something else, when the extra content is irrelevant.

*They'll be on Youtube anyway.

lol @ n00dl3s
Exactly!
BOTH VERSIONS WILL BE THE SAME FOR AT LEAST 2 MONTHS!!!
By that time there will be new games out anyway.

[phalanges]

the MS Game Studio boss to say?

[mcgrawgamer]

all over again.

[JeepGamer]

How many of you ever played a Grand Theft Auto game and wished there were more completely pointless side missions? This might come as a shock to Microsoft but what makes GTA great is not if it has 100 or 102 missions, it's the overall game and how it plays that makes it great. I'm sure that the extra content MS bought will be spiffy but do you honestly think it will be that special?

[-EvoAnubis-]

If it's extra storyline stuff, then I can see it adding value. But to think that DLC is a selling point is just stupid. The average consumer A: Won't know and B: won't care.

[prowiew]

I have both consoles, and I will buy it on 360. Why? Cause my friends all have 360. The episodes, probably I will never buy it. My ps3 is waiting for Final Fantasy and God of War. I just hope they dont take 20 minutes to install.

[Doctor Strange]

I think the bottom line is that both PS3 and 360 version are going to sell well and the version you get comes down too if you really want the exclusive content when it release later this year and in 2009 and your controller preference.

I think worldwide GTA IV might do better on the PS3 but I think in the U.S the 360 will probably sell more since there are more 360's in the U.S but Rockstar and their developers are getting paid so everyone wins.

[sleepbox]

I want to place a bet right NOW with ANYONE here that GTA4 for 360 will outsell the PS3 version 2 to 1. Who will take this bet right now?!

To believe a console with half the install base is gonna outsell, you are idiots.

[grilledgorlupa8]

I'm no fool GTA4 will probably sell better on the 360 hands down but 2:1 is a little too much.

[Thepro318]

facts PS3 Version will have Downloadable content as well but don't forget home is going to be intergraded into GTA IV as well plus PS3 online service is free and no load times so i believe PS3 better version for this game and many other games 360 can have this version of GTA cause GTA 5 coming back home to PLAYSTATION EXCLUSIVE LOL enjoy 360 fanboys

[moujahed]

Did'nt a Rockstar representative say that M$'s liscense for the exclusive content will expire in 2009?? So what's the point in pain 25mill per episode, when Rockstar will eventually release those two missions to PC, and PS3 gamers???

[captainjy]

Children...MS didn't just pay R* 50 million for exclusive content, they also paid for simulataneous release, once again snatching away a PS exclusive.

[Luck_y_Penny]

acording to ms, not according with the reality.. lol.

[davez82]

hm lets see, gta4 + 2 episodes or

gta4+ mgs4 +ff13

hmmmm

[zonetrooper5]

Well I own both a 360 and PS3 and deciding on which version of the game to get is damn hard. I may wait until the reviews come out and then decide for myself.

[Ru]

As a Multi Console Owner as well, I would say I have already decided that I will be buying the 360 version but only because of the exclusive DLC.
If it where the other way around it would be PS3 version I'd be buying.

I'll definitely be playing both versions of the game just to get the lay of the land. But in the end the extra exclusive content made the decision for me.

Undoubtedly the PS3 version will still be just as good of a game and if I had only the PS3 I would not go out and buy a 360 for GTA4 unless I was wealthy enough to afford owning both consoles.

[GurlPlease]

360 for me for two reasons...xbox live and DLC. Thats all!

Both platforms are going to sell like crazy...the end!b

[Rusted]

a lot of people here need to stick Sony and MS out of their a$$es, they're acting like the freaking owners. There's no need to be worried about the PS3 version, is going to be great, R* knows how to make games for the megaultradifficult Sony's console, the DLC will arrive for the PS3, is just a matter of time.

[smack]

There is no doubt that GTA made the PS2.

The real question is whether it will kill the PS3's chance to compete in NA. Everyone knows that there is a sizable chunk of PS2 owners who have not made the jump this generation, and this is probably one of the games that will move them. Since most of the folks who like GTA are in NA, the issue is which console do they choose?

It seems to me that the MS strategy is to convert these folks via GTA before the PS3 gains traction; so if it costs $50 million to secure their place, then it is probably worth it.

[Bill Gates]

The BABOONS are such wishful dim bulbs.....AAAAHHAHAHHAHA

[BrianC6234]

Baboons? You mean like Shame Kim?

[AngryTypingGuy]

Are you a 15 year old kid who's just being a prick, or are you really that retarded? If you're a 15 year old prick, then kudos, you're pretty funny.

[LightningPS3]

when you pre order GTA IV for PS3.

Just kidding, but if Microsoft thinks Sony is gonna sit back and watch them market GTA IV like it's XBOX 360 exclusive, they're probably very wrong.

[captainjy]

Phony's response: <crickets chirping>

[stuntman_mike]

i think that guy shane kim is only saying that because thier(ms) game lineup this year isnt that strong.

[captainjy]

Their ANNOUNCED lineup isn't that strong, but don't underestimate MS. Expect a lot more this year and then prepare your "2009 is Phony's year!" blogs.

[ELite_Ghost]

i don't even play the missions, i just go around the city and use cheats to kill ppl, i don't think anyone really cares for extra missions for at least 10$.
Just cause they have more missions that prob no one will buy doesnt mean they'll get the "FULL" experience, the FULL experience for me is just killing ppl!

[Sez]

i'm glad i won't have to install this on my HDD for the 360. just to only have a couple of faster load time just to play. 1 or 2 extra seconds of load time is better than 22 mins of installing it on a ps3 HDD.

[Rusted]

2 disagrees?! why?

[Jamegohanssj5]

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

MWUHAHAHAHAHHAHAHH

Microsoft is so funny.

[dabizo]

Cos my dad said so and he said xbox is better so there...

Anyway I will get it on PS3 and enjoy whatever Rockstar dish out. Orange Box is better on 360 but I have it on PS3 and still love it.

[BigE]

Dude i am only posting because i have to say i love you avatar pic.
Dont take it the wrong way... i dont think youre a chick but i love the chick.. that Robin Thicke's wife aint it? Fine as HELL Man .. shess TOOO FINE. lol... glad to know we have a common interest.. add me on PSN = BiigE

Peace

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

I read somewhere Sony is going to have down-loadable islands with episodic content to go with it.

HTML: http://www.megagames.com/ne...

[WeaseL]

I think this game will still be disappointing extra content or not.
It has been limited by size by the 360's DVD and thats why you get DLC.
So I really hope this game turns out to be a big pile of steaming horse sh!t

[krik]

I already pre-ordered a special edition for the PS3 but would like to wish all 360 owners the best of luck (no irony at all, I mean it) since a RRoD right after getting a kick ass game like this would suck big time. No one deserves such bad luck.

PS: I have 2 friends that got RRoD within 1 week of getting Halo 3 and another was RRoD when Halo 3 come out, not fun for them since they were waiting for the game for months.

[GETPWNED]

you stupid, pathetic driods. it's quite clear to everyone that GTA4 will have entirely new episodes of content, while the PS3rd version will only have a new pair of shoes or something stupid like that (for that SPECIAL unique look!!!!), and that the 360 has a much higher install-base, AND real gamers who actually BUY videogames. not to mention the fact that the 360 version is a lead sku, runs better, is on a better console all around, is the only version anyone's EVER SEEN, and is not the reason for the delay like PS3rd is.

in conclusion: Get Owned. Now show me how right I am.

[onyxbox]

the best thing MS could do right now is launch a reliable console that's quiet because in terms of performance (graphics etc.) and online functionality they're ahead.

Japan and Europe just don't like buying things that break down a lot.

(BTW: I'm sure the USA like reliability too but I guess they care about their own economy too).

Come on MS put some 'real' effort into making RROD a thing of the past... not just stick a 3 year warranty on everything.

Here in the UK... go to any Gamestation store and you'll see stacks of used 360's (more than any other console) which to me speaks volumes... I bet most people get one back from repair and trade it for a new one before it breaks again... before long I bet some stores will just stop taking them. (Hmm... I wonder how many new sales are attributed to this trade in and get a new one trend).

[Alcohog]

At which point during any of the past GTA games did you say to yourself "that was not enough missions, I want more". The gameplay adds to the depth of the game, 90% of the time I spend with a GTA game is spent BS'ing around...I've never even had a desire to replay the story for that matter. "Exclusive Episodes" FTS (for the SUCKER!).

[ravenguard88]

"Waits for 9000 disagrees"

Hrm. Maybe Sony's stealing some of that Folding@Home power to rule game sites and forums.

CURSE YOU CELL PROCESSOR! *shakes fist*

[TheWickedOne]

Didn't Sony already says that they will have "exclusive" DLC too. This is just a Kim trying to hype up and sell more copies.

I could really care who sells more copies. Really come on now. And do the the fact the the Xbox has been out what a year longer than PS3. Of course they will sell more copies.

[Diabloz]

ps3 version ftw

[thexmanone]

Who cares, I`am sure it will be good on both systems.

[Kenshin_BATT0USAI]

I don't see 2 episodic contents to move many consoles. I can see it getting Xbox360 AND PS3 owners to buy the 360 version, but thats about it.

[skagrerrrr]

i don't care as long as i can play it

[SKUD]

How are you supposed to fit all that DLC planned for the ganme on the small 13GB hard drive that comes with the X360?.

[Boldy]

Funny you say that. Currently on my "13GB" HDD I have on it: 14 XBL arcade games, Shivering Isles Expansion Pack, Turock Demo, 2 Call of Duty 3 Map Packs, 2 Call of Duty 2 Map Packs, 2 Gears of War Map Packs, 8 cars for Burnout Revenge, 3 cars for PGR 3, Heroic Map Pack for Halo 3, 8 HD game trailers, a crap load of music, a bunch of themes and gamer pictures, and yet I still have 7GB left. So tell me how the GBs go by fast on the 360, I mean it's not like I'm using 5 GB to install a game on the system (thought the point of the console was to avoid installations). You do also realize that the 360 has 120GB versions? Right!?

[AngryTypingGuy]

I'm not sure what the sales ratio will be, but more copies of GTA IV are likely to be sold on the 360, like most other multi-platform games. I know GTA is a PlayStation staple, but now the 360 will one-up PS3 in the GTA category, with more sales and exclusive content.

[Vulcan Raven]

personally i could give a sh!t about some extra content you have 2 pay for. I enjoy the full version of UT3 with all the free downloads.

[Big Jim]

I don't think the extra content is going to be a big issue, but I do think advertising is going to be a big issue. There are a lot of non-hardcore PS2 owners out there waiting for GTA4 to come out before they get a new console. If microsoft advertises the hell out of GTA4 and sony doesn't, these casual types are just going to say "hey, the 360 has grand theft auto, the 360 is cheaper and it has that Halo game I keep hearing about. I'll just get a 360." I could really see this happening. How many non-hardcore gamers even know anything about the RROD? Sony needs to advertise the sweet, holy, living **** out of this game or they're gonna get hurt. GTA4 is the only thing the 360 has for all of 2008, so you better believe they are going to blow a huge chunk of change with a massive media blitz the likes of which you have never seen before. As a sony fan, I'm worried.

[rexor0717]

...do you need me to tell you?

[krik]

Too bad all of those are coming out way AFTER GTAIV. MGS will come out at least 1 month later, then the other 3 after in Sept. I doubt I will still be playing GTAIV when MGS comes out.

Also, I see more people buying PS3s to play GTAIV and 1 month later MGS4 than buy a 360 and then play GTAIV and more GTAIV "exclusive" content.

Anyway, I will still get all of these games, will you?

[jay2]

Rubbish,the 360 will only 'own' when the downloadable contents released in about 6 months after the 29/4/08. this comes
from MS don't forget so of cause their going to say that.

I will be buying the PS3 version at launch and will only buy the 360 version IF and thats a big IF the contents good.

[tee_bag242]

I have both consoles. But im still going to get the ps3. Like another guy said on here. I want to be able to go back and play the game in a few years time. Plus i much prefer the ps3 controller for gta. Yeah i have a rumble pad too now... and Biiiiiig deal. Hopefully its not a gimped version on ps3 since they are showing off all the devs on 360 so far. Either way im highly likely to still get the ps3. Xbox feels too fisher price.

[FirstknighT]

People have to remember that the GTA franchise is what made the ps2. The original Xbox recieved GTA almost an year later. The same with Vice City. So with Microsoft getting the best version on the same day as the ps3 version is definitely a strike on the playstation brand.

[ScottEFresh]

@ Jason360 ...LOL wtf are you talking about. So because DMC4 has a 20 minutes install time that means every single game comming to the PS3 now has one? I HAVE ZERO games in my catalogue that REQUIRE installs (besides Warhawk). I have 20 PS3 games btw. So you have no idea what your talking about. Your jus trying to make the PS3 look bad. New HDD ? WTF you talking about man? AHAHAHHA my 60GB is plenty of room for all I need...unlike your gimped ass 20GB which cost you $100.

[ReBurn]

I can't wait to see how the launch shapes up. I really want the game and I'm glad that no matter which console gets the "better" version I'll be able to play it.

[potenquatro]

i can't belive rockstar agreed to more stuff on one console,its gta, it should be the same on every console and pc. everybody should enjoy this game to the fullest. rocksatr should be on the gamers side.

[Bleucrunch]

I think some of you guys are really not educated.....How can you say installing a game is bad....when u install the game the load times are dramatically quicker and the game flows better...I don't know if you are kidding and just want to make an argument or you really dont know. Because if you did then I dont think you guys would say such very very very dumb comments.

[AngryTypingGuy]

From what I read about most games, 360 loading times are quicker, and the games run smoother, despite not having to be installed. It's just the architecture of the two systems, I guess.

[Uzesgelen_Goo]

no loading free roam city just like real life (^_^)

[Venomous_1]

I played all the other Gta's on Playstation Hardware it's sort of sentimental to play on Sony Hardware So Ps3 version for me even if the added 10 extra chapters..

[OmegaKulu]

well yah... there are a lot more 360 out there, but i think the sale:console ratio will be pretty much the same.

[BiG_bLaK]

this is a playstation game and always will be no matter wat extra stuff there will be on it . xbox always has to try and do something extra to try and due the playstaton but they cant and all us loyal playstation fans will stay by that all you other phucks dont even kno. lemme ask all you that had xbox people this . WHAT SYSTEM DID YOU HAVE B4 THE XBOX CAME OUT ? YEA THATS RITE STFU. Jus stop hatin thats all im askin cuz all of yall that answr that question will say playstation or maybe a PC.

[rmatott]

i dont care bout the extra 2 episodes im getting it for the ps3. it just doesnt feel right playing a GTA on an xbox.

[funkysolo]

The thing people forget is the game is going to be the same on launch date. You can claim complete version all you want but for the 1st 3 -6 months we are going to be playing the same GTA4 game..In 3 months do you really think extra content is going to make a difference, hell no because there will be better, bigger games on the PS3...You can keep the extra content and going by history how many people pay for the oblivion extra episodes, I bet not even 10 percent of the people paid for extra content......Extra content come on be serious

[reaperxciv]

...your mom too

[KozmoOchez]

than to bring up that DMC4 requires an installation to help with the load times, well so does UT3(It's not actually required but it helps), and for a man of position to bring that up in an interview is unprofessional. BTW, did he forget that if you are running a core X360 that you will not be able to play burnout paradise online...well you can set showtime records, and look at others records...but thats all you need right? Yeah, don't forget how you guys need to install or download somehting in order to get the full experience of playing burnout paradise online...and you probably wont get free mods for UT3...I'm most likely not gonna buy this game anyway, I dont see it getting any better than san andreas, and if that doesnt happen, im not buying it, i probably just wont buy it anyway

[Bathyj]

Special Epidsode 1
Go to point A, Pick up Guy 1, drive to point B, you and Guy 1 kill guy 2, take package A to point C.

Rearrange and repeat 20 times.

3000 Microsoft points please. They're not gonna put much more effort than that into it. They've got exclusive games on PS3 to work on.

[SuperSaiyan4]

So its obvious which version will sell more...Over 17million sold Xbox 360's versus around 8million sold PS3's...Also with the 360 version being superior there you go.

[reaperxciv]

haha! i definitely agree with your observation

[gamesR4fun]

ya 360 fans are hoping for extra maps and what not lol All your getting is a few odd missions maybe even a realated or expanded story line tho I doubt Rockstar is going to shaft ps fans 2 bad I mean its not like they dont know who put them at the top.

Besides no matter how much they try and pimp their little bit of extra content their not going to outsell the ps3 with gta.

[Variable]

can some mod not just clean the gamers zone? it's full of xbots and PSfanboys and it's pissing me off

I'm buying it for PS3, don't have a 360, and I'm going to have a GREAT TIME playing it, at least that's what I hope

[robep3]

SeNiLe911 said this

"I just can't see playing a game with out it. Car games you feel the road, crashes, the way each car reacts or feels."

What a load of RUBBISH I drive 30,000+ miles a year doing my job and anyone who thinks that its realistic HAS NOT driven a car rumble is rubbish its a complete waste of time under NO circumstances does it feel like your driving a car its as simple as that.Your hand vibrates thats it LOL.

Rob.

[marcellizot]

I reckon that GTA IV will sell more on the 360 simply because of the installed user base. I think the game will drive more fresh console sales in the PS3 camp however.

[Cryptech]

I have been waiting for this game to drop so I can finally buy a PS3. I am going to use my Fed. Government rebate check of $600 (when it comes) to get a PS3 and a few games. I think PS3 will do pretty well with this game as will MS. The only real loser in the GTA IV scheme is the Wii.

[Seeton Mace]

The only reason there is" exclusive DLC "for the 360 version is the same as the extra content on Oblivion Ps3 version, It was a Platstation game only and to get Xbox users super amped they are offering " exclusive DLC " cause it is new to the 360.

Got to add one more thing.. the reason i use inverted commas for " exclusive DLC" is because you people out there who think that it will be exclusive DLC forever to Xbox 360 are just being silly... it should say exclusive to the 360 first! because soon after it launches they will reveal that DLC will be coming to PS3 soon... well thats my opinion anyhow.. I have not heard any rumours but thats how things have been working out these days. Exclusivity never lasts in the console battles.