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Konami Pulling Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes Trailer

Konami is asking websites to remove the Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes trailer revealed last weekend at the Penny Arcade Expo due to a licensing issue with a song used in the footage.

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Soldierone4255d ago

Goes to show, even major companies are not exempt from song copyright claims galore.

ZombieKiller4255d ago (Edited 4255d ago )

yeah this has happened before. The actual MGS theme was changed in MGS3 due to a similar sounding song that they found in the past.

That really sucks. But it's the world we live in :(
Kojima is a LAST person on earth that deserves to be sued
It's cool though, thanks to gametrailers, I got it in my PS3 hard drive.

knowyourstuff4255d ago

Just so everyone knows - the reason there is a lawsuit is not because the original owners of the song wanted it, they would love the free publicity. Rolling Stones made a killing with it's song in Call of Duty Black Ops with spiked iTunes sales immediately after the game released.

The problem is lawyers. There are more lawyers in the US than all other countries in the world combined. Lawyers only make money if they're in court, and for corporate lawyers it means suing everyone in sight - the biggest reason the US is such a litigious society. Lawyers look to shit all over everything for their own gain, as per usual, the artists would more than likely love having their song features in an MGS trailer that's getting millions of views worldwide.

Why not just credit the song at the end of the trailer and be done with it? Because lawyers want money in court, that's why. Lawyers ruin more than people really know.

GrieverSoul4255d ago (Edited 4255d ago )

I think the best thing would be to credit the song at the end.

@knowyourstuff

I actually know a story of a person that spilled a drink in a tile store to see if the tile absorbed liquids. After that, the cleaning lady went there and cleaned it. Few minutes later the person that spilled the drink, passed by it and slipped. She sued the store for not effectevely cleaned the floor and for not put a "slipp" sign next to it.

That person won 9000$ in court! Only in America.

negative4255d ago

"Kojima is a LAST person on earth that deserves to be sued"

Right because the guy cures cancer.

FFS

lonesoul654255d ago

haha...perfectly said @ negative = P

Batzi4254d ago

@ZombieKiller:

It was changed in MGS4. MGS3 had the theme.

bunfighterii4254d ago

@knowyourstuff

the problem isn't lawyers- I'm a lawyer that deals in ip law almost exclusively and I can tell you we don't act unless we're instructed to- blaming lawyers is like shooting the messenger. we just tell you what can be done.

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Abdou234255d ago

I don't know why the owners of the song is suing ?!! it's practically free advertising.

avengers19784255d ago

plus opens them up to a whole new audience

FanboyPunisher4255d ago (Edited 4255d ago )

If made a song, you'd have to pay me to use it in a video game. If you actually know the meaning of the song, then its even more insulting that he stole its usage.

That song is making Kojima more money for their company either way you look at it. So what youre saying is the artist should just let big operations make millions of their back? They should be paid whatever tiny amount they wanted.

Sorry Adbou23, you have a weird sense of fairness; siding with the multi million dollar company and tossing the broke artist to the street.

Fail logic is fail.

hkgamer4255d ago

I presume the song was from an older MGS title, Konami has only licensed that song for that particular game and nothing else.

Kojima would probably license this song in the end since it could be something he wants in his game.

If it was that little tune coming from the helicopter, then I guess that could easily be changed.

ZombieKiller4254d ago

@Negative

How about GFYS instead?

I was making that comment because Kojima has touched a lot of lives with his work.
So because he HASN'T cured cancer, he deserves to be sued?

Why don't you actually say something intelligent?

@Batzi: You're right! My mistake lol

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FanboyPunisher4255d ago (Edited 4255d ago )

Kojima is smart, he knows how to exploit the system by getting to use the song for free, atleast for a little while.

But its not like they are hurting for money...so they are being VERY cheap as a company.
muahaha!

subtenko4255d ago

Yea, I'm sure there are reasonible causes for these cases..but a lot of times I'm left wondering "Why, just why!? Free marketing, and that's what I would want." I wouldn't tell them to pull the trailer If I were the song producer.

Then again I'm not them so I can't speak on behalf of every single person and case. -EDIT- Someone is saying because of lawyers. Whatever it is, it's always about money somewhere -_-; such a great song though. Maybe we need some new rules in this industry?

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chadboban4255d ago

Isn't Konami supposed to sort all this legal stuff out BEFORE they post a trailer?

WeskerChildReborned4255d ago

Yep, sucks they have to pull em down though.

TeaDouble_E4255d ago

Glad I watched before they took it down

hkgamer4255d ago

I guess he is supposed to. Well I guess it is not his fault but Konami/Konami US if they are involved.
Legal issues is too hard to deal with, especially legal issues from abroad.

Interloper4255d ago

What gets posted on the internet, STAYS on the internet.... foreeeeeveeeer!

2pacalypsenow4255d ago

i thought it was cuz it said xbox 360 on the end of the trailer :-(

vortis4255d ago

4/10 on the Molyneux scale.

Not enough "Change the world".
Not enough silent trolling.
Minus extra points for wearing fanboy panties.

New score: 3/10

2pacalypsenow4255d ago (Edited 4255d ago )

Im not trolling i just dont like the fact that MGS is going multi platform day 1 , and it will prob suffer cuz of it,simple as that , if you dont like it too bad

Baka-akaB4255d ago

Mmm thankfully i always save good trailers on hdd . Will be some "collector" item of sort

Mocat4255d ago

What? you save trailers, Why

Baka-akaB4255d ago (Edited 4255d ago )

why not ? I like to rewatch some of them , and i'm not into streaming everything back and forth .

It makes for a nice little collection , as long as you dont keep every crap out there .

Hell MGS ones are masterpieces , and you can get a glimpse of the japanese voices too , wich are quite good , if not into imports .

nchizimbi4255d ago (Edited 4255d ago )

It's comforting to know there are people like you out there as me who DOWNLOAD trailers (the great ones) for keeps... I'm not into STREAMING content back and forth either :-) Having a downloaded file version saves up the time when you want to re-watch, re-watch, re-watch or show the content to a friend/family instead of having to hunt it on the web.

When GROUND ZEROES released on youtube, I downloaded the 1080p HD version.

SnotyTheRocket4255d ago

Did you keep the Deus Ex Human Revolution CGI trailer? That was freakin' awesome.

Baka-akaB4255d ago

Of course , it is one of the best trailer of the generation

Darrius Cole4255d ago

I have to join in and say that I too download trailers. The great ones don't ever get deleted.

I still remember the feeling from watching the FFXIII trailer.

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The Metal Gear series has sold over 59.8 million copies

300,000 Metal Gear games were sold during the first quarter of 2023, Konami has announced, bringing the total number to 59.8 million.

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FallenAngel1984350d ago

Still waiting on Konami to put the MGS Collection back on digital stores

Nyxus350d ago

I know right? And rerelease the games for current gen systems while they're at it.

just_looken349d ago

Do not worry they will give use those pichincko remakes for top dollar soon.

Metal gear solid 3 in the fox engine looked/ran amazing but was sealed away :(

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sarcasm349d ago

I know re-makes and stuff have been played to death this generation.

But damn I wouldn't mind an MGS4 remake

gold_drake349d ago

i played it quite recently and it holds up very well

CantThinkOfAUsername348d ago

It does, but a remake will be available on platforms other than PS3.

itsmebryan349d ago

I thought the series would have sold more over all these years and different releases.

Ready4nxtgen349d ago

Yeah I would have thought over 150 Mil. Something.missing here

Nyxus349d ago

Metal Gear isn't that big, and there hasn't been a new release in years. Also MGS2 and 3 are still missing from digital storefronts.

shinoff2183349d ago

5 mgs games in total if I'm not mistaken. 59 60 million seems about right. Mgs is dope to some of us but it would be hard for a lot of regulars to understand

ChasterMies349d ago

I would love to buy MGS4 but it’s still a PS3 exclusive.

JEECE349d ago

Although there are notable exceptions (GTA, certain first-party Nintendo games, Gran Turismo), as a rule games didn't sell as much in earlier generations as they have in the past few generations. So a lot of PS1-PS2 era titles that are viewed as seminal games didn't actually sell all that much by today's standards (yes, despite the large install bases of those systems lol). I remember a similar surprised reaction happening a few months ago when Square announced the total overall sales of Final Fantasy VII.

Deathdeliverer349d ago

Some of the best fun you can have online was the first metal gear online and to a lesser, but still fun to an extent, MGO2. The magazine, CQC, stealth, and tactical play Vs real players is just a blast. Not to mention playing Snake vs everyone? Amazing. The game will never be the same without Hideo, but Konami can definitely update what’s already there and take my money.

ceyoga349d ago

You wouldn't be talking about the OG MGO that was included with MGS3:S would you? It's rare running into another former player. Those were some of the best memories of any online game I had.

Deathdeliverer349d ago

Yes my man!! That seems like the BEST game that nobody played! Tranquilizer pistol, drag the body to a corner and lay a girly mag right by their head so they wake up and instantly get caught by the mag. You could get real toxic if you wanted at that point, but man that game was incredible! The only thing annoying was that damn Konami ID

P_Bomb349d ago

Did my part!

“You’re pretty good” 🫡

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Kojima looks back on Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes on its 9th anniversary

Hideo Kojima: "After the launch, many people seemed to expect GZ to be a full game."

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-Foxtrot407d ago

People would have gotten “your intention” if you stated it from the beginning but people didn’t want smaller episode like MGS games.

He should have just focused on MGSV and work Ground Zeroes into that game instead

I_am_Batman407d ago

I don't remember there being confusion over Ground Zeroes being a full game. But then again I was just starting to catch up on the MGS series as a whole at that point so I might've not paid enough attention or simply have forgotten that there was confusion about it. I bet the whole Moby Dick Studios thing didn't help the casual observer understand what the hell was going on though.

I only got both MGSV games when Phantom Pain was already out and I kinda agree that it probably would've sucked if I had to wait one and a half years to pay The Phantom Pain after Ground Zeroes.

jambola407d ago

I'm sorry what now?
Who expected that?
If it was meant to be episodic or an experiment for that, the price should / would have reflected that

MadLad407d ago (Edited 407d ago )

To be fair, there really wasn't enough content to actually justify even the smaller price tag. It was still half the cost of a full game, yet a 20th of the content.

I can't stand these paid glorified demos.

CrimsonWing69407d ago

Honestly, it was basically similar to the FF15 Duscae demo. My theory is he was taking too damn long to make a game and Konami was like, “Sell what you got!” It just has kind of a scummy corporate “let’s sell this demo for half the price of a full game,” feel to it.

That’s just my take on it. I love Kojima and I love the MGS series, but this and 5 were the biggest let downs, ever. Clearly unfinished work forced out because, in Konami’s defense, Kojima was going over budget and taking forever on the project.

MIDGETonSTILTS17407d ago

Lol, I loved Ground Zeroes, but releasing that level at $40 during a dryspell for games at the onset of the new gen was an obvious cash grab.

I handed over my money happily, but plenty of non-diehard fans were understandably letdown by the scale of what $40 bought them.

Chocoburger407d ago

The price was originally $40 for the physical PS4 and XBO versions, but due to controversy it dropped down to $30 before launch. And as much as I love GZ, and even bought it twice, I do agree that $30 was too much. It should have launched at $20.

https://kotaku.com/konami-c...

staticall407d ago

I don't know how about anyone else. But i've bought it for $20 1 week after release (or $15, don't remember the exact exchange rate) and spent 24 hours beating every mission and getting all the steam achievements. I was 100% aware what the game was about beforehand though and i did enjoy every second of it. I knew it was a work in progress and it was probably the best and less restrictive game i've played in a long time (and controls were just perfect).

Even previous MGS games didn't gave me that much freedom as Ground Zeroes did.
Love stealth? Got you covered.
Want to speedrun? Here's the timer.
Wanna kill everyone? No problem, grab that AK then and let's party.
Wanna cause chaos? Just tell Pequod where to land.
Love to drive? Then go ahead.
Miss Raiden? Then play as him.

I wish they would continue MGSV, finish remaining chapters and add more missions as DLCs, there was SO many options... A poor man still can dream...

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Metal Gear Solid V Is The Greatest Stealth Game Ever Made

Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful. Everything about it is mechanically focused and aesthetically nuanced, and not a single thing feels out of place or without purpose. Big Boss moves about each environment with a pace that provides the perfect cadence to use all manner of gadgets in whatever ways you like.

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Mobis-New-Nest579d ago

You are incorrect and I will be taking this time to correct you. The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Forsaken Fortress is stealth that no game has yet to match. Having Link, crawl, sneak and hide under a barrel is innovative stealth that Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell, Thief and Tenchu wish they had achieved. I rest my case.

ChubbyBlade579d ago

Cardboard box beats barrel

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got_dam579d ago

Lol I see what you did there.

fr0sty579d ago

So tired of opinion pieces... I come here for hot news, not hot takes.

-Foxtrot579d ago

Shit Metal Gear Solid game though

It's boring, empty, repetitive

Great mechanics and gameplay but it's just so dull....

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Chard580d ago

I played it long after the hype had settled, and I had a blast with it. Strip away the disappointment over what it could have been, and you're still left with a great game

porkChop580d ago

The gameplay loop was phenomenal, no question. From a gameplay standpoint it's an incredible stealth game.

porkChop580d ago

"Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful."

Let's not pretend Kojima was entirely innocent there. The game was 5+ years into development, way over budget, and wasn't even halfway done. That's why Chapter 2 is so unfinished and Chapter 3 was scrapped entirely. He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made. The same thing happened with MGS: Rising. That's why the game got rebooted as MGR: Revengeance and was handed off to Platinum. That's the only way the game was going to get finished. And yet after wasting millions on a scrapped game, MGR only went on to sell a little over 1 million units. It was a failure no matter how you look at it.

That's why Kojima was "locked away" in his office for the final 6 months of development of MGSV. So the team could actually piece together and finish the game. Was Konami just supposed to let Kojima spend more than a decade with infinite funds to make one game? Kojima isn't Rockstar, his games don't sell 170+ million units. At some point the game has to come out.

I get that Konami are a garbage company but they aren't solely responsible for what happened with Kojima. As much as I love his games and will always be a fan, MGSV was almost entirely Kojima's fault and I'm tired of people pretending that it wasn't.

MIDGETonSTILTS17579d ago

Sounds like mismanagement by Konami.

generic-user-name579d ago

Can you prove any of what you're claiming? Because I've seen Kojima build a studio and release a AAA game in 3 years with Death Stranding. All I'm seeing here are the same conspiracy theories that people like to believe to confirm their biases towards certain people, same with Neil Druckmann. For instance, MGSV may have been in development for a while but you leave out that he was also having the FOX Engine developed alongside it, an engine so good that MGSV ran at 60fps on a PS4.

He's gone on record disputing that he ever goes over budget on very rarely has to delay his titles.

"He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made."

Where did you get this from?

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Workshyskiver580d ago

Best gameplay of the series hand down, its not even close. Worst story in the series hand down, its not even close.

Ezio2048579d ago

But that ending though with amazing music. The Man who sold the world.

1Victor579d ago

I can’t say it’s the best or the worse to me I stopped playing metal gear at the end of 4 the official end of the snakes saga and the best in my book was 3 snake eater excellent gameplay and excellent story telling giving us the reason for big boss to go and create his own country before the metal gear saga on the 4-8 bits consoles.

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