First Review Scores Out For Borderlands 2 & FIFA 13

The first review scores are in for highly anticipated shooter Borderlands 2 and footy title FIFA 13.

[Lucreto]

Didn't like the first Borderlands.

I am unsure about this one. Does anyone know what is done different in this one than the first?

[zeal0us]

What about the first Borderlands you didn't like? Just curious

[Lucreto]

I am a hoarder. There was certain guns I liked and didn't want to throw them away. The lack of inventory space and a storage spot annoyed me. I know about the dlc for storage but that is limited.

Secondly the areas were empty and nothing really pushing the story. A few more NPC's and talking points would have been nice.

[Carl_Shocker]

See that was the problem for me Lucreto, I'm a hoarder in these types of games...gathering the unique weapons in Fallout 3 for example but Borderlands, it just seemed pointless when you would find new weapons as you level up. I really think some of them, the unique ones that were hard to get should of leveled up with you.

I think the only thing I didn't like about Borderlands was driving to locations, back and forth and when quick travel was available it was a pain to keep going through loading screens back and forth. It wasn't that bad driving to locations but some enemies spawn points were just annoying, that one right next to Fyrestone for examplewith the bandits.

[koehler83]

@Lucreto

A game with that many guns isn't really suited to the hoarder mentality. You find the type of guns you want to use and you replace them as you find better guns to fill the same role. Though the lockers offered in the Mad Moxxi expansion catered a bit better to it. It was a poor decision to make it DLC. I think that's likely to be a feature of BL2 right from the start.

As for the story, that's something that was lacking in the first one and Gearbox seems to have made a priority of fixing this time around.

[Bathyj]

I couldnt get into it either.

Seemed like you had to grind alot. Early on youre just shooting small animals the whole time. When you do go up against someone substantial you could empty multiple clips into him and he didnt die.

I heard the game get really good if you persevere but I just didnt play it enough.

I might give it another try.

[ABizzel1]

@Lucreto

All those problems should be fixed in Borderlands 2. As you said the DLC for storage space should now be a part of the game allowing you to keep more weapons (I'm a semi horder, but if I find a better & similar gun I'll drop it for someone of a lower level to use).

The story and world should be much better and focused this time around. That was a huge thing they planned on fixing this time around, so it should be more entertaining to play, and provide you with more fulfillment.

@Carl_shocker

I agree that the weapons should have leveled up with you, because som weapons (Especially Repeaters) seemed to get worse the higher they were in level. Repeaters would do a lot more damage, but their Fire Rate's were awful and you literally had to grind for hours to find decent ones. I had a Level 22 Repeater that had 2x Fire Damage and a fire Rate of 22.2 (decent damage for the level I think 32), and the higher level (65) form had 154 damage, 2x Fire, and a 5.6 Fire Rate. Maybe they'll take note of that and try something with that for B3.

@Bathyj

That's because it's meant to be played as a co-op game on your first playthrough. If not things are going to be tough for you. It took you 10+ clips to take down your first mini boss, we'll if there were 4 of you it would only take 2+ clips. The enemies are bullet sponges especially the bosses which is why you should play it as a co-op game until you level up enough to go solo, and even then I advise you to go back and complete easier missions the group missed on your solo run, if you don't have healing abilities or else your money is going to drop to nothing soon.

Anymore question?

[oNIXo]

You have a storage space now, that you can share with anyone on your PS3/360. So if you find an awesome weapon for a character you don't use you can save it until that character is lvl'd up enough. I like hoarding shit too, but when I found a new gun in Borderlands that I liked I would replace one of the older ones I liked but didn't use.

[insomnium2]

I platinumed Borderlands playing solo and I found Borderlands a fantastic game. Go figure...

Claptraps are the greatest pieces of entertainment there is...

[fullymoated]

@ABizzel1

Great responses! Not entirely true on the 3rd one (i don't think). Pretty sure the enemies level as more people join your game. The game was easily soloable. If someone had problems with the first mini-boss they may have been going in the wrong direction or should have done more side quests.

[kneon]

I'm a few hours into it and so far I'm not impressed. I don't see the point of the whole thing. Is there any story to this game or is it just a bunch of meaningless missions?

It's just not very engaging, glad I didn't have to buy it as it came for free with PSN+.

[FCOLitsjustagame]

There is no real story. The point is to run around and kill stuff and get loot. I think the real point of the game was to do this with 4 friends. Think of it like playing cards...its just for fun (no money in the pot).

[BitbyDeath]

I got a 1 hour trial on plus a few years ago and didn't think much of it.

Got the full game free from plus now so will have to give it another go soon.

[EVILDEAD360]

The original Borderlands was amazing and found it's fan base long after the game hit retail. When you got past the early parts of the game it became nothing short of one of the most addicting eperiences in gaming for me.

Can't wait to see all the improvements they made..I hope this franchise is here for year and years to come.

Evil

[badz149]

"amazing" would be pushing it but it is a good game! I'm only 1 more mission before the end don't get the urge to finish it any sooner! I waited for the 1st to get discounted and got it off PSN and I think I'll wait for the 2nd to be discounted too with all DLC included!

[GTRrocker666]

No story... at all. Sorry but an RPG needs to have a story. I cant play a game for that long and not have some type of narrative. No character development either... at all. AI kinda sucked.

I didnt finish the game either though, so i might be biased. I got to a boss battle and couldnt beat it so i gave up. Normally i would keep trying but felt that the game was repeatitive and the enemies were the same for the most part. I basically had my fill up to that point.

The soundtrack and cell shaded art direction was good though. Thats the only thing that stood out to me. The gameplay was good too but nothing stellar. Deus ex to me is what an action rpg should be. The story and characters in that were amazing. But if people like it, thats cool. Art is subjective. Different peolle like different things. I dont watch tv or many movies so i look to video games for the story and character stuff as well as a fun game to play: Infamous, god of war, dead space, uncharted (even killzone and resistance to an extent) are all series i buy day 1 because they give me this.

[Interloper]

I know there's now a bank that's accessible by all your characters and that can be upgraded. Unsure about the space as far as inventory goes, but the story progression has been noted and severely worked upon this time round. A lot of the dialogue will be voiced, and there seems to be a lot more NPC interaction besides just being greeted by a wall of text.

[Captain Qwark 9]

the storage didnt bother me becuase you got so many guns that you found a new better one in 30 min.. the story was weak and uninteresting though i agree with you in that aspect. that said the gameplay was dead on though and some of the most fun ive had in a shooter in years. cant wait to get my hands on the new one, im not expecting a better story though, if i get one it will just be a bonus, im mostly picking it up for the fun co-op, loot gathering, and enemy variety ( i love to kill new things )

[showtimefolks]

I spent over 200hrs in borderlands. But the sequel is really improving on everything. Now there is a bank for you to store all your valuable loot

Storage bank check
More guns with more veriety check
A better story well gearbox couldn't have any worst since the 1st had zero story
A better more living world check
Different veriety in enemies check
58hra it took their testers to finish their 1st play through check

I have the limited edition loot edition plus the special edition pre ordered

[OMEGAZONE]

Whats different? They've turned the awesome dial for everything from Awesome to FREAKING AMAZING ULTRA EPIC!!!

[antz1104]

Loved the first one, a well deserved score. While there was nt really a story I dont think the first was driven by the story anyway....and there was enough storage, just a million guns. Lol having too many guns is not a problem I will trouble myself over.

[Kran]

Well of course there will be guns you dont like. No one will ever like every game in the game...

[solar]

I also wasnt as fond of the first as others. The lack of mini map while driving, quests didnt scale, the horribly easy boss battles along with the "WTF?!?!" ending, lack of good loot if you didnt have a full group.....

They first had great potential but it was mediocre at best. I might try the second if there is a sale on Steam.

[sway_z]

Lucreto got all (27 so far) those disagrees just because he (personally) did not like Borderlands.....??
Here have an 'Agree' you just for exercising your own opinion.

The Cretins!

[Lucreto]

It is the most disagrees I have ever gotten. :)

I am considering getting Borderlands 2 as the people above shared some light on by concerns.

[jrbeerman11]

its called a disagree button, not I hate you button.

They disagree with his opinion. its allowed.

[Laxman]

Agree/Disagree should only be used for OPINIONS.

If he stated FACTS and people disagreed, that just shows they are silly and dont like the reality of what he said. But the sole purpose of it being called the 'Disagree' button, and not 'Untrue', 'Lie' or 'Bullocks' is becuase its just the opinion of other people.

[NeoTribe]

If u didn't like the first you prolly won't like the new one. Its more of the same. Not sure how u couldn't like the first one though. Best coop game I've played in a very long time.

[Gaetano]

I've been made to feel evil because I didn't like the first game.

[urwifeminder]

I agree i thought it was boring all my friends done was show each other guns for half an hour zzzzzz it looked good but for me its really over rated.

[Megaton]

I hoarded a lot, too. I just edited my save in WillowTree and gave myself 500 backpack slots to solve the limitation problem.

Here's my inventory: https://www.dropbox.com/gal...

[Hozi89]

That's what I love about the PC games and modders. I was able to hold over 60,000 items....thanks to willow tree!

[Baba1906]

i tried the game first and didnt like it. Tried it again and i am obsessed. so much fun. =D

[Bobby Kotex]

I didn't like the first one. Don't see how I'll like this one.

[Dms2012]

Then you don't like games.

[Aceman18]

i love the first game. i had more fun with this game whether alone or playing with friends then i did with most games this generation.

the second game is already paid for and im ready to have more fun again on pandora.

[problemchild84]

@Lucreto

I had the same problem with Borderlands (I still loved the game though) until I found a program called Willowtree.

Willowtree allows you to alter your save files and you can change the number of inventory slots to as many as you want!

The program is free, you just install it to your PC and it works for all versions of Borderlands.

Edit: Oh, I see megaton beat me to it

[FCOLitsjustagame]

I am replaying Borderlands one right now to see if I want two. It certainly is an entertaining time sink. No story so no real need to pay that much attention or wear my gaming headset so no problem watching TV while playing.

For just a distraction running around and shooting stuff it was really kinda fun. Of course, if you like coop you can run around and shoot things with friends. The one down side was not being able to do collections. It would have been nice to have a house or something to store "trophies" from beating the various bosses. Also the vault wasn't all it was made out to be and that was dissappointing.

I too am curious if they are going to go with a different formula and actually try to have a story this time or allow you to collect stuff or have some other motivation for the whole running around killing stuff. Will it just be empty fun again or are they going to try to make it more engaging so I have to pay attention when I play?

[Interloper]

You can do it either way. There's story for those who want it, or you can just skip right through it. ;D

[BelieveinGhosts]

How many hours is the single player of Borderlands?

[FCOLitsjustagame]

It depends are you planning on just doing straight story? Doing story and side quest? or doing story, side quest and a lot of random wandering around looking to loot chest (which refill everytime you start) and kill stuff?

I have never tried just story but I am guessing that would be very short (and quite the challenge). I wander around a lot so I have been playing my current play through well over 30 hours and not yet near the end (I am in no hurry because I found the end to be a let down last time). Then theres 4 classes which each play different so for the full experience you really need to play it 3 more times ;)).

So it's as long or short as you want it to be it seems.

[Dread]

95%

Awesome score. Cant wait for Sept. 21 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheModernKamikaze]

So excited! I preordered the PC version even though I am not finished building it. :D
that's how I am excited.

[Detoxx]

The game is going to be awesome, 95%!

[abzdine]

I hated fifa12 it was a complete waste.. Borderland I still haven't tried it but it's waiting in my HDD since I got it 4 free.

[execution17]

its fun, lots of people playing online lately, + getting the 1000GS/Platinum is pretty straight forward

[Rampaged Death]

Great reviews. FIFA has to be really good this year because Konami have got PES back on track.

[asmith2306]

Agreed, the new PES demo is awesome. Feels like its back to the golden age during the PS2 era.

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

Borderlands 2 is gonna be awesome, i cannot wait...

[Burackus]

can anyone read the bottom word that they rated it on, on the bottom right of the pic, i know the first 4 are graphics, gameplay, accessibility, lifespan, and then ?

[IWentBrokeForGaming]

I personally didn't get into the 1st game either, I'll wait to redbox this before I pass judgement!

[ikral]

Borderlands is great, just as Fallout 3 is. Gave up couple years ago, continued free version and really enjoying it. Persistance is the key to success.

[whiteyjuice]

It's Borderlands- not "War and Peace".

The game is meant to be played with friends, not alone. If you are playing this alone, you have bigger problems than whether or not Borderlands story is a make or break feature for buying Borderlands 2! The story is irrelevant- kill shit, get loot, laugh a lot, do it all over again!

[MaxXAttaxX]

You shouldn't have to rely on friends to make a game fun.
Why even bother offering a single-player mode?

I started playing the game in co-op and was ok until my friend had to leave to go to work, then I noticed how incredibly boring and pointless the game was.

Game should've been called 'Gun Collector'.

[jjb1981]

I hope they fix the coop missions objectives. They are too fast and too easy with friends

[MasterD919]

I'm excited for Borderlands 2.

Not much else coming out in September...it officially kicks off the start of the better game season IMO.

[Relientk77]

Borderlands got 95%, awesome

[Parasyte]

Paid off my pre-order of Borderlands 2 this passed weekend! Bring on the 18th!

[triplev16]

Just started the original Borderlands (again) to get refreshed for this one. Good to see it's getting good reviews. Didn't expect anything less really.

[jjdoyle]

hows do you review perfection? scores dont justifies it

[mochachino]

The first reviews are almost always among the highest review....hmmmmmm

[zchay]

a 95 is considered really high for this magazine reviewer. They would not give a 95 to any other new game just because of "first reviews" they would have given it a 90 if that was the case. 95 shows that the game was near perfection.

[BringingTheThunder]

even if it got a low score i'd still get it

[TheMasterShake]

eh i can't into borderlands nor elder scrolls, but i love fallout. even though they are all of the same vain something about bordelands just turns me off. elder scrolls i F***king hate though no question.

[zchay]

I am a little disappointed, they did promise 96.5 more wub wub :P . . . But i am surprised, I am a HUGEE Borderlands fan, and I did not expect a 95. I thought reviewers would complain about story, too many guns, and annoying graphics.. But 95/100 is REALLY awesome (considering the reviewer gave a 83/100 on borderlands 1)

+ Even statisitically poor weapons are fun to handle
+ Underlying physics of each weapon have been massively improved - guns feel like they used to in Doom and Unreal
+ Trading gear is better
+ Gearbox have learnt how to turn off the brown palette in Microsoft Paint, leading to BL2 being the prettiest game of 2012 to date
+ Increased verticality of the world
+ More varied missions
+ Even better humour
+ Improved story
+ 30+ hours main quest. A truely epic game once sidequests/playthroughs/badass ranks/loot has been taken into account
+ Bonus (optional) objectives to missions and multiple outcomes
+ Solo play and co-op markedly improved (with more populated environments and more seemless co-op)

- Inventory management/space can be a problem (12 slots initially, central hub (bank?) is in Sanctuary)

*saw it in a site http://forums.gearboxsoftwa...

[zchay]

@TheMasterShake Even though borderlands is considered a Shooter/RPG, don't start bringing in other rpgs into the comparison. Borderlands is more on the Shooter scale (IMO 70% shooter, 30% RPG). I kind of understand that you are comparing it to Fallout 3; but Elder scrolls? Comm'on man, get your comparisons straight.

[TheMasterShake]

well i was comparing as far as an first person open world rpg goes. there isn't many on the scale of borderlands, fallout, & elder scrolls. which was why i was comparing them, but i get what your saying though. bottom line i can't just get into borderlands. not saying its a bad game its just not for me.

[RedSoakedSponge]

is there a version of this i can read? would be interesting to see what they have to say.

[MiyagiSPG]

Should I play Borderlands 1 before playing 2 or is there not much need too story-wise?