UT3: MSXbox Preview - 'Xbox 360 version may lack some features'

MSXbox writes: "There is still some uncertainty surrounding the Xbox 360 version, all we know is that it's coming, but may lack some features that the PC and PS3 versions offer. It doesn't seem at all likely that Microsoft will allow users to transfer mod content from the PC to the Xbox 360 platform, which is what can be done with the PS3 version of the game.

I have been keeping an eye on the situation for quite a while now and the basic consensus is that Epic Games will be trying their best to add this user generated content to the Xbox Live Marketplace as free downloads. This seems like it will have to suffice, but I can't help but wonder if it will go beyond just multiplayer maps or other kinds of content?"

[leon76]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah a!!!!!!

[marinelife9]

They better put that requires hard drive sticker on the box as well if you want to play online with mods.

[DarkSniper]

This is another breathtaking blow towards the image of Microsoft and XBOX 360. Microsoft's tyranny is proving to be detrimental in the relationship between Microsoft and Epic Games. Sony has allowed Epic to give their customers exactly what they look for when it comes to enjoying an online experience.

At this rate, Epic will finally grow tired of Microsoft's slave influenced tactics and will make Gears of War 2 a multiplatform release that will see superior development and sales on PLAYSTATION® 3.

$niper

[poos3]

1 of the biggest flops of 2007 is coming to the 360 haha will any 1 buy this game that flopped hard on the ps3 ? 8.o reviews by tons of site ,ps3 keep this pile of crap game that does not even come close to looking better than gears of war visually.

[Kleptic]

only a 360 retard put on damage control would refer to a game that is only released in one territory a flop...the PC version is everywhere...but no one buys PC games anymore...and the console version is only out in North America, and has already sold 4x's the PC version...

sales have nothing to do with the fact that this game is unlike anything on the 360...criticize the game anyway though, especailly considering you are getting a severly gimped version of it...oh well...at least you have better stuff shooters coming this year...oh, wait...

[DarkSniper]

XBox 360 gamers still have the priviledge to play the heralded titles such as Hour of Victory and The Outfit. It's no wonder why Microsoft Slaves yearn for this AAA title.

$niper

[macalatus]

@poos3,

I really, really love the way MS fanboys like you define what is a "success" or a "flop". So what you're also saying is that a crappy game is considered a "success" as long as a certain amount of numb nuts bought it? Wow, poos3, that truly speaks volumes about your kind.

[Hockey11]

lol I wonder where the fake Dark Sniper is on this one.

[lawman1108]

I own it on the PS3 and wish I had rented it from gamefly first. As for a HD on the 360? only people who bought the arcade dont have one and they can pick one up on ebay for next to nothing.

[Bill Gates]

Once again, the BABOONS get $hafted...AAHAHHHAHHHHA

I bet you BABOONS are loving the inclusion of DVD9 right about now huh BABOONS?.....AAAHHAHAHHAHHAH

[Drekken]

What does DV9 have to do with this? Maybe I missed the sentence saying it was more about HDD and MS not allowing user content... But who knows you seem like the smart one here with your educated well thought out response.

[Ric Flair]

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[Jamaicangmr]

Actually DVD9 does have alot to do with it because it says it will lack features as well as MODs. Think about it there are many MOD's available that if they had the room they could put the avaiable MODs on the disc. Specially concidering the fact that Microsoft doesn't seem like they are gonna allow them to have Downloaded MODs. So yeah DVD9 has alot to do with this.

[Marceles]

Alright thats it, this has been killing me...Ric Flair is supposed to say "Wooooo" not "Whoooo" like an owl

[poos3]

like turok right that loos like poo on the ps3 ,like frontlines that got canceled for the ps3 haha go play lair

[Dacapn]

COD4>Turok
COD4>Frontlines
COD4>Halo3

I don't think I'm missing out on any shooters as long COD4 is out. Who cares if 360 gets a bunch of sub par shooters. As long as we got COD4, all your other games just look like shelf space fillers.

[GETPWNED]

lmao. COD4 may be better, but now Halo 3 is a "subpar shooter"??? LMFAO. stupid fanboy. you want SUBPAR, go play Resistance or Krapzone.

[macalatus]

@GITPWNED...I mean, GETPWNED,

LOL!! Your last account "GOTpwned" so you just started a second account. Silly, sad fanboy...

[GETPWNED]

LMFAO. YEAH, AND?!?!?!

And I like your Av. I'm a huge God of War fan. No fanboy here. I'm getting a PS3 this year. GETPWNED!!!!!!!!!!!

[lawman1108]

It took you 2 weeks, what a douche bag

[Dacapn]

@GETPWNED

COD4 set the bar. The bar is par. Halo3 is sub par.

[mighty_douche]

Let me guess, i bet 360 owners dont want MoDs anyway right?

Eitherway, M$ should just bend the rules this once, UT is nothing without MoDs, and they dont want to push EPIC toward Sony, as they helped the 360 become what it is today.

[pwnsause]

well, it looks like that can happen anytime, if things continue like this, once Epic is done with the GeoW contract with Microsoft, they would jump to the other side of the canyon to sony cause of the flexibility of the PSN.

[socomnick]

Naw we would like mods but what we would really want is Gears of War 2 not this mediocre game.

[sonarus]

wat if gears of war 2 also came with mods if it wasnt exclusive i wouldnt suprised to see that and then 360 owners would once again be getting the short end of the stick.
Msoft probably wnt budge cus they pretty much still own epic at least until the gears contract expires but certainly couldnt hurt being a little more accomodating to a 3rd party developer that has helped the xbox so much. Currently they still have the best lookin game on the xbox and none of the other studios have been able to top them

[Ares84]

So now it's medicore??? Last year I've seen all Xbox fans getting crazy for this game and talking about how much better it will be on the Xbox.
And now you don't want it??? What has changed? Please explain!

[Iron Man 2]

LOL so in other words don't even bother...LMFAO Microsoft loves you...NOT!XD

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Well I have never been a big UT fan...that said this is one iteration I have been curious to play once I heard they slowed down the PS3 version compared to the PC version. Consoles just need to be a tad slower in FPS in my opinion given the controller setup.

That said, with the 360 version if in fact all mods will be hosted via LIVE I dont really have a "big" issue with it..assuming two things. One, the mods put up are hand picked by Epic as the best of the best (I honestly have no desire to down load crap mods only to find out they are crap mods...) And two.... that MS keeps the mods free as long as they are free to everyone else. This may or may not become an issue...but given how little true "free" downloads there are on Live in terms of game content..it does have me worried.

[Ju]

I would be curious how they handle the licenses, then. While I understand a mod author cannot sell a mod (because it uses Epic tech and IP), it is still the authors IP, OTHO. So, if MS charges a fee, they need to have contracts with every author, IMO. And the other thing is, liability - which again could be covered thru individual contracts. I just think this might be a lot of work which defeats the purpose of user created content. It might be easier with just Live content, because the authors would add those licenses to their content - if you'd want to distribute it there - but what about all the mods out there already ?

[KillaManiac]

Unfortunately I think Microsoft will charge for mods since your using "their Live servers" to DL the mods.

They charged for GoW stuff when Epic wanted them free...so why would UT3 be any different?

Epic is 360s biggest friend now that Bungie isnt making a Halo 4 (atleast anytime soon). Microsoft needs to be a little nicer to them...Put some Trust in em!

[Brixxer600]

Smartest comment i've ever seen on here. LMAO

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[pwnsause]

"User generated content is a big deal for UT3, so it’s obvious to see why the Epic team have focused on the other platforms first, that allow the users to have control of the types of content they want. Whilst this may hack off the Xbox 360 faithful, which no doubt is where the most interest in the game will be coming from in the console market. On the bright side, I guess we can at least look forward to a proper matchmaking system, oh and those achievements – everybody loves achievements!"
^^^LMAO on achievements/matchmaking comment^^^

[ThaGeNeCySt]

can Epic just move on from UT3 and give us Gears of War ?

gosh man

[Genuine]

Agreed. I have never been much of an Unreal fan, but I really enjoyed Gears.

[u got owned]

who cares, this game blows...

[HarryEtTubMan]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO THE 360 wont be getting anything much better... ill see. hahahahahhaha JEALOUS BOTS PS3 is KING

[sleepbox]

Will it lack the feature of UT3 being a horrible game that no one cares about and won't sell on 360 because there is a better selection than on PS3?

[mintaro]

are you honestly saying that up until this point, not including future titles such as metal gear, etc,......
that the PS3 has a better selection of games than the 360?
im sorry but you are totally wrong. I do not consider myself a fanboy nor am i assuming you are one either, but that was a bogus statement

[sleepbox]

You may not consider yourself a fanboy but you should have read my comment instead of assuming I said something I didn't. I said:

"Will it lack the feature of UT3 being a horrible game that no one cares about and won't sell on 360 because there is a better selection than on PS3?"

Notice, a better selection THAN ON PS3. As in PS3 has meager selection of games compared to the 360, not vice versa.

[Vip3r]

So no K&M and mod support for the 360 users then eh? Looks like the PS3 has another better version of a game.

[sak500]

@ ^^^^^^

"Looks like the PS3 has another better version of a game."
Really how many have been sold? THe UT3 is flop cuz of no upgrade/unlocks system. With games like COD4 no one is going to touch it on 360 which has much better line up of fps than ps3.

Oh btw did u not read the following news?

http://www.n4g.com/NewsCom-...

[Vip3r]

Too bad I have no interest in DMC at all.

gg

[Bladestar]

This game was suppost to be a PS3 exclusive... wasnt? So, if it was... and it was designed to work on the PS3 taking under concideration the Playstation platform and PSN unrestricted environment and everything is working so well.. and the game is selling like hot cakes... why is Epic insisting to bring a game design for the PS3? This is like trying to bring Forza 2 to the PS3 when it required too much integration to xbox live.

The fact is that this game was designed for the PS3 PSN and not for xbox live... Period... it's like asking Sony to upgrade their network to support achivements and other xbox live only features to release 1 game... What would Sony say?

Epic should take Unreal Tournament and keep it Exclusive to the PS3 the way it was intended to... or release it without it and let people deside if they want it... Take COD4 for example... the PC has mods... the xbox 360 and PS3 version does not... do you see people complaining? if anyone wants Mods then they get COD4 for the PC... Plain and simple...
This is the only company complaining about mods... and xbox live not supporting it... they are also the only company that planned to make their game exclusive to the PS3... designed for it down to the metal.. and now want Microsoft to change their infrastructure so they can make money selling their game.

When will Epic learn that Xbox 360 fans don't care about this game as much as Gears... make gears... and don't waste your time trying to port a game designed for another console and give us inferior crap... keep it exclusive to the PS3. Do xbox 360 gamers need more FPS? specially a port?

[Keowrath]

When was the game supposed to be a PS3 exclusive? I know it was timed but I don't recall it being completely exclusive. Do you have a link? (i'm not busting your balls here just don't recall the PS3 exclusive announcement)

Game was designed for the PC as far as I'm aware but the PS3 PSN allows for the downloadable user mods. I wouldn't say it was designed specifically with the PS3 in mind. The 360 has limitations where it comes to what Microsoft say what's allowed on their network and the lack of HD in the Core and Arcade. Epic just have to follow what Microsoft allows.

EDIT: I didn't disagree with you.

[Ju]

Bladestar, I kind of agree with you here. I mean, not that I want it PS3 exclusive, but what you say makes sense, kind of.

I think mods are a vital part of UT3. That's what it makes it different from the other shooters. I am not sure if the shooting element in the game alone is a significant selling point. Its still a fun shooter, but the mods put this game in a complete different category. Loosing that would remove one piece of its characteristics, IMO. If that means keep it exclusive, well, Epics decision. But if they'll do, they should market that a bit more. It sure could need some more sales.

[Keowrath]

I agree Ju, Unreal Tournament without mod support is not Unreal Tournament. The only reason the game has lasted as one if not the favourite FPS game I've played is because of the freedom and how huge the game is with mods/mutators.

When Quake Arena and UT were battling it out for deathmatch supremacy UT blew quake away in my eyes because of how expansive it was.

[Keowrath]

Seems like Epic are wasting their time with UT III by the reaction of 360 owners reactions here.

Someone should email Mark Rein and tell him to quit the 360 version and move onto Gears2. Not sure I've heard one positive word regarding this game from 360 owners.

Is there anybody with a 360 who does actually want the game? Don't reply if you're not, I'm just interested if anybody DOES actually want it.

[mighty_douche]

Theres plenty of 360 owners who dont use N4G.

A few months ago people were claiming how much more this will sell on 360, and suddenly they're not interested? dont you find that slightly strange?

[Keowrath]

Yeah, I don't know if it's "the usual crowd" who don't want it for petty reasons or if 360 owners genuinely don't want it. My friends with 360's have played it and love it (apart from the lack of splitscreen)

I just wanted to know if there were any 360 owners on N4G who didn't care about the timed exclusive release and actually wanted to enjoy the game for what it is. The people (if any) who are actually concerned that they get a decent package with mod support. Y'know, Gamers.

[Wraith001]

Well i own a 360, but im gunna get it for my PS3, as i think it will be better on that system, maybe 360 fanboys cant handle the fact that the PS3 on this instance is supplying a better experience?

Dont be a fanboy, buy the opposing system, and realize enlightenment. Then maybe u will see that some games r better on 1 or the other instead
making urselfs look like idiots with ur stupid comments that make u look jealous.

[Keowrath]

Wraith, If you own both consoles, at this point it would make sense to go with the PS3 version but I'm not asking for any fanboys to comment. I don't want to start an argument here and we already know what their answer is.

I'm asking for GAMERS who only own the 360 that actually want the game to reply. So far the amount of replys aint so good.

(Mark, are you reading this? =) )

[Mr_Kuwabara]

It's pretty obvious that if they add the content to Xbox Live, Microsoft won't let it be free.

[mighty_douche]

agreed, M$ have to spend time and money testing the stability of the MODs with the console, they wont do that for free.

[mintaro]

@Mr.Kuwabara

a little off topic but didnt you used to have way more bubbles?
if you dont mind me asking, what happened?

[Ashta]

I would just like to point out that the article does not take the time to point out that the mods are not server restrictive even though the article tries to make it sound like getting mods is impossible.

If a PS3 user pops in UT3 and wants to play on a server where his friends are playing on the Halo mod he doesn't have to hunt down the Halo mod on the internet and then transfer it. All he has to do is connect to the server and the mod will automatically download and update his UT3 information allowing him to use that mod as well.

So, all those extra maps are pretty much open to anyone who wants them and they spread around the servers pretty quickly.

[Snukadaman]

We are probably getting the user generated maps as free downloads on xbox live...whats the problem?

[DarkSniper]

That you wont.

[PopEmUp]

he's dreaming ??????

[Bull5hifT]

will we be able to share mods between ps3 computer 360? easily
i hope it doesnt require extra work from the mod makers or it will slow the flow for us

im looking forward to the huge counter strike coversion mod, looks like call "o" duty 4 with cars, and those halo mod maps........

the guy thats making the best halo mods, is being a douch saying he isnt going to release them for ps3 cause he's a 360 fan boy and is scared of getting sued out of his A$$ by micro-$oft

someone needs to make a Half life 2ish map, a grand theft auto style map with tall buildings with popular gta cars...........

i have an idea for a capture the flag map , using that bridge on metal gear solid 3 , thaty has realistic physics and support lines that got shot affected the way your balance handled i think with two flags on both ends and two huge pillars sticking up from the watery cliffs , id draw a piture but this site wouldnt post it

hmm i think $10 for a 3 mod pack is reasonable and $5 per map,

[Blademask]

Whether you want them or not. Game content is being restricted due to hardware limitations. Same issue with Street fighter. While its on a small scale, it is showing issues with the choices MS made to compete with other Game systems. Burnout is another great example.

Its only going to get worse as games continue to get larger and larger, and people demand more and more flexibility with UGC. I don't see why its OH SO COOL for you to make maps in HAL03 with its terrible prefab level 'builder'. YET when you do the exact same for UT3, its all of a sudden 'not needed'. The double standard is completely ridiculous here. Be it UT3 or ANY FUTURE TITLE THAT WANTS TO USE User Generated Content, It will have to go through MS, then users will be charged for it. When As with the PC world/PS3, and gaming in general. User generated content to share has always been free. Thats the point.

Don't just blindly support MS for making bad choices. There is no reason that UT3 360 players shouldn't get free UCG. OR FREE UCG in the future. Or does MS know best?

[Shankle]

Oh shut up with your 'FACTS'. The gamer zone was created to keep twats like you away from gamers. Just leave.

[niall77]

no offence to UT3 but mods are the only thing that would set it apart from the other 257 zillion FPS's on the 360.

Im sure MS have there resins to not alow MODs

1... mods MIGHT crash the system, and the 360 doesn't like crashing.

2... people wouldn't pay for DLC if they can get if for free.

but you would think MS would allow it just so the 360 seems equal to the ps3

[Bull5hifT]

bill has someone thats wipes his a$$ for him and then that person would have to force themselves to eat his Shyt and pay Bill for the oppertunity

he does this to millions on a daily basis

im not lying but my little brother only plays his 360 2 hours a week , terrified that the RROD is gonna get him, especially cause we cant find the reciept

i wish i could help him, i wonder if i could hire someone to build the thing right, also i wouldnt mind adding a water cooling system to my ps3 for precaution....how much would that cost

[robbo918]

From one PS3 fan to another, move to the Open Zone if you are going to slam systems like that. This zone is for debates not slurs, even if I agree with some of what you said. So anyway, yeah mods should have you out of here any time now.

Mods...I even tied it to the topic of mods....lol that deserves a bubble even if its two different types of mods :)

[OC Shock Value]

well i am a HUGE UT3 fan.. and im happy for anyone that gets 2 play this game.. even tho missing out on mods will hurt alot.. but im sure 360 fans wont care.. when all else fails.. Master Chief got yo back right???....... right??

[GETPWNED]

This is so stupid. Without Epic and Gears, M$ would be nothing. They need to give Epic special privileges. No matter. Gears is still #1, and Gears 2 will utterly destroy UT3. Facts are facts. Just ask anyone who's played both franchises. ME.

[macalatus]

Based on your avatar anyone could tell that you're just downright sick in person.

[Kleptic]

"facts are facts"...and yet you didn't state a single fact at all...just that an unannounced game, that will be of a totally different style, will 'destroy' UT3...and leave Killzone 2 out of this...that game will slap you retards around plenty later this year...

I guess its reassuring that you are at least pissed at MS about this DLC issues...gives some of us hope that every 360 owner isn't brain dead...most comments are simpley like "well...we don't want free DLC anyway...I can find free water too...doesn't mean I will drink it"...

[GETPWNED]

What is sick about healthy eating? Little girls need bananas, too! Silly perv. Get your mind out of the gutter. Now go read your bible.

@kleptic,

How do I know Gears 2 will be better than UT3? Easy. My buddy has UT3 on PS3, I've played UT3 on PC as well. I also own every UT game since the original, on PC and Xbox platforms. And guess what? Gears 1 is better than all of them combined. We are talking about core gameplay mechanics. Gears is simply better. More strategy. Less shooting the ground as in UT games. And since Gears 2 will be as amazing as Gears 1 and better, it's safe to assume that it will crush UT3. Do you get it now? Good.

And how is Krapzone going to slap anyone around later this year? Who, me? How? I'm going to own it when it comes out. Unlike your fanboy ass who is too n00b to play Gears, I play all the good games. I'm just saying Gears is better. NOW GET PWNED.

[LastDance]

Get Owned . I like sony alot better then microsoft. For many valid reasons. But i know when i play a good game. When i played bioshock i was amazed at the arty style and the intensnes of it.

When i played gears of war with my cousin. The voice acting was pitiful. The graphics were very nice but a bit shiny. There.. wasnt a storyline? for the portion of the game we played which was a few hours. The guns sounded the same and were extremely lifeless and we kept running through 1 corridor to the next shooting the same looking dood. I couldnt even tell if my bullets hit them or not...

poor game.. im sorry .. go play mass effect or bioshock.

[Doctor Strange]

I hope they can work this out since I'm sure they are a lot of UT3 fans that own a 360.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

Im getting the 360 version its the only reason i didnt buy the ps3 version...

[DFresh]

Personally I don't think you'll get the same experience on the 360 compared to the PS3/PC.
I know the big reason why this game was released first off of every other console except the PS3 is because they have open networks for more MODS and that makes a big difference when playing a game like UT3.
Graphics have been even better off of the PS3 than the PC as well as the rating.
PC-6.5
PS3-8.5
Big difference.
Understand that UT3 is good for goofing off but don't expect to see any story it's just a shoot them up game.
Personally I play Resistance more than I lay this game.
Once Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 come out those will define the 1st shooter forever and put every video game in it's place and best thing about all of this is those games are PS3 only and could be done only on that console.

[Lord_Ash]

If they ever release Mods on Xbox Live I hope they price it at a very low price (free if possible) cause allot of people would feel cheated for paying for free stuff.

[TwissT]

As much as I love UT3 I think Epic should port this game and just work on Gears 2 I am thinking more 360 owners are more anxious for that game rather than UT3.

[joeynox]

I Dont like ut but love quake 3 arena. F ut, ms needs to get ID to bring Quake 3 arena to the 360 just like it was on the dreamcast " memories bring a smile to my face dreamcast how I miss thee"

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

You might as well call it something else because it isn't Unreal Tournament 3 without mods.

[joeynox]

I agree but if the mods are really that good ie Halflife ( CS and DOD ) then epic would bring them to the platform themselves just like valve who bought those kids. In all honesty does UT3 need mods on the 360,I dont think so. People are buying UT3 to play UT3. Only a handful of mods actual are decent for these type of games and like I said if there was a really good mod Im sure epic could get it certified and then bring it to live

[PirateThom]

I'm sorry, but if you truly believe that, you've missed the point of UT games. The reason they have been so popular is because of mods, an infinite number of possible maps and combinations.

If you buy UT3 to play UT3, it's going to be a hell of a shallow game since the single player is basically just training for multiplayer and uses the multiplayer maps and there's not really enough maps as is.

[Time_Is_On_My_Side]

Without mods the game could be a lot boring think of it with Halo 3 with no forge mode. Forge mode doesn't even compete with mods but it adds a lot to the game play. Mods are very important in this type of game because it's heavily based on people's mods. Plus if they do allow them to be on XBOX Live you'll have to pay for them.

That's a another big plus because if it's certified that means XBOX 360 owners will have to pay for the content that PlayStation 3 owners are getting for free. PlayStation 3 is way better than XBOX 360 in so many ways just wait until Home comes out.

There might be a place with Unreal Tournament 3 mods for free without the certification of Microsoft.

[smokysmoke]

No offence but i could care less about xbox and thats IF 360 even gets the game, witch it wont so dont beleive everything you hear whats the point no mods... missing some things? lol ok have fun with that 360 lovers cause i have Xbox hahaha hate on me all you want but PS3 owns!!

[GurlPlease]

Im holding out buying it for my PS3 until I find out if xbox360 will have mods or not.

The PS3 has mouse/keyboard support and mods. I really want to buy it. If the 360 have mods then Ill buy it due to the fact that I have plenty of friends on xbox live and rather play it with them. Chile, I wish they would just spill the beans so I can buy her

[crematory]

i just bought ut3..any one know the site i can download maps ,camera,

[sonyfanonly]

now its time for the xbots to say U T 3 sucks BECAUSE THEY GET THE SH^TTY VERSION HA HOW SAD XBOTS