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Dante's redesign and its flaws

Xbigy Games' Kamran Draeger writes:

"After recently hearing that Capcom had the impression that fans were warming up to the new Dante in DmC I thought to myself they could not be more wrong. The reason why series veterans have moved away from this reboot was not the pure cosmetic choices but the entire presentation.

Gather Your Party has released a video discussing this issue in great detail, from the sloppy written dialogue, to poor voice acting. "

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Whitefeather4279d ago

Great video I agree almost with everything. Truly sad.

crxss4278d ago

DMC4 footage? really? if you're going to have beef with this version of dante don't compare him to DMC4 dante, he's probably the worst one of them all. DMC3 dante is the best.

Carl_Shocker4279d ago

"After recently hearing that Capcom had the impression that fans were warming up to the new Dante in DmC"

Ah don't worry, Capcom are just lying to make the game seem good and probably to make themselfs feel better.

kamruk4279d ago

My thoughts exactly... In another forum I remember somebody writing, "the only reason why Capcom is getting positive feedback is that all the fans who didn't agree with the new Dante have already left"

Carl_Shocker4279d ago (Edited 4279d ago )

The thing with Capcom is that they are just like NT...arrogant and ignorant.

They don't like to listen to negative feedback, they think what they've done to a game is for the greater good. Look at RE6 for example, they thought co-op would be a good idea for RE5 yet when fans complained about it instead of getting rid of it for RE6, admitting it was a terrible idea, they expanded on it thinking we'll warm up to it, fact is they just don't like to realise that there ideas are terrible so they ignore any backlash they get from them and focus on the fans who do like what they've done to a franchise. Resulting in them replacing a fanbase they already have with brand new fans instead of making their fanbase bigger.

Capcom are too proud to admit they are wrong and thats why the company has hit rock bottom in terms of the respect their fanbase has for them

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fei-hung4278d ago

The big journalists out there are shit bags too. For the sake of the many gamers, when they interview Crapcom or NT, they should grill them and ask why they keep ignoring the fans, why they trash talk Hideki, why they rebooted it and opted for graphics over gameplay, what they will do if fans dont back it and the game fails due to the dev and publisher ignoring fans.

Every interview ive seen, journos have either kissed ass when attempting to ask the question or not asked at all.

SavageFlamingo4278d ago

Fans are too damn closed-minded when it comes to their favorite franchises. Journalists aren't. They don't make it a practice to insult the games people spend countless hours on. And those questions you want asked would end the interview in the blink of an eye.

timeon111111111114277d ago

"FANS ARE TO DAMN CLOSED-MINDED WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR FAVORITE FRANCHISES"

Bulll......fucken shit.

Fans knows how DmC project leader Tameem Antoniades have taken tons of piss on Dante (not Dino from DmC).
They don´t support DmC because of that, and not because they are close minded.

IN MOST case people who support DmC and call DMC fans for close minded, ignorant or narrow minded are gamers who are positive to Ninja theory (ninja theory fanboys).

I AM NOT BEING ANTI-DmC because i am close minded. Tameem disrespected Dante...and even Trish!

So fuck you and anyone else claiming i am a close minded person because i am not.

I would respect Tameem or anyone else saying "We went with a new character instead of Dante", but they are not even doing that. They are milking Dante´s popularity by making a asshole version of him with Tameem´s bullshit slapped on. And that´s not all...they are also disrespecting Dante while doing that.

SavageFlamingo4277d ago

I've never played any Ninja Theory games. So I'm not a "fan boy". And that's very mature of you. Nothing wins an argument quite like a "f*** you". Very good, sir.

fei-hung4277d ago

Close minded?! In what context?!

I like tea because it acts like tea, tastes like tea and smells like tea, therefore when I ask for tea, I expect tea; not ice tea, not cream tea or crack tea.

The same goes for DMC. When I play DMC, it's because it looks like, sounds like and plays like DMC.

A spin off is understandable. I can live with that as it means the original still is there for those who like, however a reboot means a farewell to the original.

It's like all future MGS's being replaced with MGR's, all future Halo's being replaced by Halo Wars, all future Forza's being replaced by Forza Horizons and so on.

When Nolan rebooted Batman, he didnt turn Bruce Waynes parents into 2 lesbian lovers or turn him intu a testtube baby. He didnt turn Batman into a some ghetto gangster wanna be, he didnt the action sequences into comedy, he didnt screw with the history and settings of the character created by DC Comics.

This DMC has done all the above and more. I'm not saying its going to be a bad game or a good game, I'm saying the way they have gone about it, the comments they have made about the fans and Hideki San, the level of arrogance and ignorance they have shown, the lack of respect and understanding and any form of sincerety and appreciation to the fans and creator of DMC is pathetic.

This could have been an alt universe spin off or a brand new IP given the amount of changes which have been made and they could have avoided all the problems.

Fans cannot be bought, but journalists can!

Like how they all dishes out amazing scores for GTA4 and weeks later after it shifted millions of units complained about number of bugs and glitches and problems. Or how they mark up COD games for the very reasons why they mark down orther shooters.

TheBlackSmoke4277d ago

This whole video is rendered worthless because it assumes that the game is already out and are comparing the writing and characterisation side by side.

Also old Dante pretty much has a personality transplant every game so you cant consistently compare with new Dante without first deciding which "orignal" Dante is THE Dante.

This is like watching a pre-emptive indoctrination theory video before ME3 even came out. Stop trying to be a smartass, pathetic

SamPao4277d ago (Edited 4277d ago )

its more like, analysing everything he knows so far about the game.
Which I think is absolutely a fans right.

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Ranking the Devil May Cry Series

VGChartz's Mark Nielsen: "Upon finally finishing Devil May Cry 5 recently - after it spent several years on my “I’ll play that soon” list - I considered giving it a fittingly-named Late Look article. However, considering that this was indeed the final piece I was missing in the DMC puzzle, I decided to instead take this opportunity to take a look back at the entirety of this genre-defining series and rank the entries. What also made this a particularly tempting notion was that while most high-profile series have developed fairly evenly over time, with a few bumps on the road, the history of Devil May Cry has, at least in my eyes, been an absolute roller coaster, with everything from total disasters to action game gold."

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VersusDMC32d ago

First to last for me...3,4,5,1,2.

VersusDMC32d ago

Me leaving it out should be telling of my thoughts on it. Better than 2 as a DMC game.

Still a good game though.

Exvalos31d ago

What a weird name, it's essentially devil may cry, devil may cry lol

Cacabunga31d ago

Best to good for me: 3, reboot, 1, 5

2 and 4 are trash, didnt like any of them.
5 has very good gameplay variety but i hated the foes.. it is just insects the whole time. Reboot has the best foes for me

Friendlygamer32d ago

3,1,4,5 to me, never played 2. 5 gameplay is amazing but level design was really disappointing to me, just a bunch of plain arenas, the story felt like a worse written rehash of the 3rd and the charater models looked weird ( specially the ladies ). Another problem with 5 was that there was not enough content for 3 charaters so I could never really familiarize with any of them

monkey60232d ago (Edited 32d ago )

2.
Dmc.
4.
5.
1.
3.

God DMC2 was an awful game.
And in case this isn't obvious it goes worst to best

Yui_Suzumiya32d ago

1 and DmC. The rest are unimportant.

DarXyde32d ago

Order changes depending on your focus. I tend to focus on gameplay/fun factor, so...

5, 3, 1, 4, 2.

I really didn't like 4 but commend Dante's weapon diversity. The retreading of old ground was pretty unacceptable to me.

But even then... Still more enjoyable than 2 for me

SeTTriP32d ago

This right here is my order as I thought DMC 5 was amazing and obviously 3 comes after 4 was great and 1 for the nastilgic value it holds 2 was so terrible that my local GameStop gave full refunds to people who returned it.

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5 Years Later, Devil May Cry 5 Still Quenches My Hack-And-Slash Thirst Like No Other

Huzaifah from eXputer: "Devil May Cry 5, the latest iteration in the iconic DMC franchise by Capcom, still holds its own as a fantastic hack-and-slash in 2024."

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Devil May Cry 5, Gears Tactics, and The Crew Motorfest Highlight This Week's GeForce NOW Additions

NVIDIA continues to add games to GeForce NOW. This week, Devil May Cry 5, Gears Tactics, and The Crew Motorfest lead the charge.

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