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Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes - Raiden's origin?

Xbigy Games' Kamran Draeger writes:

"Konami has released a huge chunk from their new Fox Engine demo that was revealed during the Metal Gear 25th Anniversary event and it appears as if Snake could have possibly not been the only familiar face to show up."

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Whitefeather4265d ago

This would Raiden older than Solid Snake. That is probably Solid Snake after being made by FOX or XOF.

kamruk4265d ago

Well they're roughly the same age. Solid Snake was born in 1972, he only looks so old in MGS4 because of the manipulated cloning process which leaves him with a genetic defect making him age rapidly.

Whitefeather4265d ago

I'm an MGS buff I know he's older due to the accelerated aging. Raiden was actually born sometime in the 80s making him at least 8 years younger than Solid Snake.

kamruk4265d ago

Exactly, if I'm not mistaken he was born '79. I just don't see why this would make it improbable that this could be Raiden in Ground Zeroes.

Are you claiming it's probably Snake because Ground Zeroes takes place after Peace Walker? That would make sense, as, you are right, Raiden was not born yet.

gamesmaster4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

the game is pretty much confirmed to take place in 1979 or later, the gun in the image is FN FNC carbine a Belgian weapon which entered service in 1979. the inclusion of the Rhodesian ridge-back in art and of course naomi's past there leds me to believe the game takes place in the aftermath of the Rhodesian civil war. the kid is pretty much confirmed as chico.

MasFlowKiller4265d ago

The Kids name is Chico from Peace Walker

MasFlowKiller4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

You guys need to play Peace Walker
Its on my top 3 Metal Gears game

Blacktric4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

And... who ruled out the possibility of the game having time jumps? You do remember that the very first screenshot from the game showed a young Snake (most likely post PW), wearing a suit with an MSF patch on it while the Snake we saw in the demo was obviously older and had a FOX patch on his suit. So do not rule out the possibility of the boy being Chico yet. The first part of the demo we saw could easily be taking place in the past while the other half, the one starts with Snake's arrival, could be the one taking place years later.

No Way4264d ago

You should teach me the story of MGS, lol.. I've missed so much. ;/
But, from what I know and have played, I really dig it.
Some of it just seems soo.. complicated, ahah.

hazelamy4264d ago

i thought it was the foxdie virus that made Snake look so old in 4.

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LackTrue4K4265d ago

All of the evidence released so far indicates that the game will start in the late 70's, shortly after Peace Walker...
http://www.computerandvideo...

Big Boss (Naked Snake) will be in his 40's (born 1935). If Solid Snake, Liquid Snake (Ocelot), or even Solidus Snake (George Sears) appear in the game, then they would be very young (all born 1972)...

If you listen closely to the English translator in the Trailer at 11:22, he accidentally lets slip who the boy is... "That area off in the distance, that square area, that's the cage that you saw in the beginning, with the boy, Chico".

Since Chico is only 12 years old during the Peace Walker Incident in 1974, and he doesn't appear to be much older in the Trailer, then this game may only start a year or two later. The woman that Chico apparently betrayed while in captivity may have been his older sister, Amanda Valenciano Libre. He's being held hostage at "Camp Omega", a facility operated by the mysterious American PMC "XOF" (FOX backwards), which is located at the southernmost tip of Cuba. Paz Ortega Andrade is also being held captive there, and Big Boss must rescue her before "XOF" interrogates her for the location of Cipher (Zero)...
http://metalgear.wikia.com/...

The "Burned Man" appears to be Vladimir Alexandrovich Zadornov, who supposedly died in Peace Walker after being shot by Big Boss. I'm not sure how he could've been burned so badly though. His right hand is also a prosthetic, which you can't tell in the Trailer since both of his hands were covered by gloves...
" http://i.imgur.com/HeclQ.jp...

gamesmaster4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

could the "burned man" possibly be gray fox? i remember reading that he fought in the Rhodesian bush war and had his nose and ears cut off, mutilated by the the frelimo.

doogiebear4265d ago

Good stuff man! U should do some journalism on n4g and show these clown authors what REAL research is all about. Also, do u know why Chico had the male side of his earphones planted inside of his chest? What's that about? And also, we know it's Chico when the man tells him to send his "Boss" his regards (yes it said boss with a capitol "B".). Chico was always weak under torture, but he's just a kid. Plus he's malnutritioned so he's so small too.

Last thing: I suspect that the mysteriously burnt man could possibly be decoy octopus. Looks similar in the trench coat, but I guess thats not enough to go on. Plus the burnt face...hmmm.

FINALLY: Did u notice how the snake in the concept art was younget, less muscular, and had black hair with a black 5'o clock shadow, with a foxhound badge on his shoulder? YET, the Snake in the trailer had grey hair (obviously big boss), more toned, and a grisly short beard, and an MSF badge. What the heck is going on o.O

soniqstylz4265d ago

I thought the burned man was Zero.

Tito084264d ago (Edited 4264d ago )

@ gamesmaster-Nah, of course it ain't Gray Fox, Big Boss knew Fox as a kid & fought him back when he was a teenager known as Null in Portable Ops, which was a few years before PW, Big Boss offered him his help & recruit him as one of his soldiers, that's where Big Boss gave him the name Gray Fox.....

When looking at the burned man, & looked at his face, I immediately thought about Psycho Mantis, in MGS1 he told Solid Snake he knew Big Boss before... The kid obviously isn't Solid Snake, he would have knew who Psycho Mantis was by the events MGS1, that's obviously Chico!!!

@ onyoursistersback- I may be crazy, but that would lead me to believe Vladimir Alexandrovich Zadornov & Psycho Mantis are the same person, IDK!!!!

DigitalAnalog4264d ago

The highest probability for the burned man is none other than Major Zero or an agent under him. Zadornov, despite his prosthetic hand, is RIGHT handed. You can clearly see the burned man utilized his left hand when he removed the XOF sign at the hind.

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xAlmostPro4265d ago

Whats with all the speculation?.. Chico and 'paz' are known characters in the franchise.

It's nothing been worked out or speculated. Know your stuff before writing articles :)

Whitefeather4265d ago

It's fun to speculate but these guys are way off base.

GUNS N SWORDS4264d ago (Edited 4264d ago )

If it's chico then why is he still young and snake so old? Did they do that ageing mistake again like they did with the early vids of Mgs4 with Meryl?

Snake's gotten older, also how many years later is this from peace walker?

Crazyglues4264d ago (Edited 4264d ago )

People you should go here - http://bit.ly/N8FB7x

there seems to be a lot being explained here, not sure if it's right though.. -but it is interesting..

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Hellsvacancy4265d ago

I hope not, i dislike Raiden, he spoiled MGS2 imo (which means nothin to you)

Jio4265d ago

I love MGS2, he wasn't my favorite character but I don't hate him. People just blindly hate Raiden because it's what the internet tells them to do.

He does look like a woman though.

linkratos4265d ago

What, I think most people's hate for him formed easily enough without the internet. mine definitely did. if anything the internet has served as his defense force

deep_fried_bum_cake4265d ago

linkratos

You're overestimating people. Most peoples opinions on things are usually affected by what others around them are saying about it. They don't even realise that that is why they dislike it. People are sheep.

You start to notice this stuff when you look at, or hear what it is about something that people dislike. You notice that everyone is saying almost they exact same thing word for word.

I'll admit that there will be some instances of coincidence and free thinkers in there though.

NovusTerminus4265d ago

I loved Raiden... I HATED Rose...

Jio4265d ago

LordMe, do you remember what day tomorrow is?

NovusTerminus4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

The day after Breaking Bad's mid season break begins? And the day before I get the RE6 demo... Basically a very pesky day that I do not want to exist...

EDIT: Wait... Just realized why you said that... lol, good one!

pixelsword4265d ago

Why did he say that? I'm sure it's a clever one, but I don't have the media exposure to connect the dots...

NovusTerminus4265d ago

Rose asked Raiden that in MGS2.

She kept asking him what the next day was, and he never remembered.

na2ru14265d ago

Raiden, I'm carrying your......I'm PRERRRRG....DURRRR

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CarlosX3604264d ago

But Raiden has to be somewhere around 20 when he appeared in MGS2. He looked young in there, even with the grey hair.

My gut still says it's Jack/Raiden.

lilmetal4265d ago

Don't we already know that's Chico? They even make mention of his sister, Amanda.

Whitefeather4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

I don't think it's Chico he seems too young compared to Big Boss' aged look that and I don't think he'd sell out his sister. EDIT: I'd also like to point out that we found out in MGS4 that Big Boss did not know about the cloning until after they had done it since he was away in another country due to his falling out with Zero (which we found out is when he made MSF). He does come back later to work with FOX until his plan is ready.

firelogic4265d ago (Edited 4265d ago )

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Chico's already a sell-out in PW. This is referred to in the demo by that disfigured man.

doogiebear4265d ago

Chico is malnurashed and does not grow much. Also, I feel bad for the kid. He sold out twice, but he's just a kid. Children fold under torture.

Carl_Shocker4265d ago

Thats what I was thinking

Dosen't he say something along the lines of

"Chico and Amanda are being held somewhere in the east of the base"

Anyway I wonder what those things are on his body...they look like holes or something where wires go in.

firelogic4265d ago

The translator says it's Chico. He's chico!

Carl_Shocker4265d ago

Just like to say I'm loving the update

"Props to onyoursistersback for spotting this"

lilmetal, me and others spotted this 6-8 hours ago...

Just saying...

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raiden-494265d ago

Anyone else think its odd that there was a lead going into his belly for headphones and then he used them in his walkman or something?

RowSand4265d ago

can u download mgs hd collection on psn? for ps3

Haha1234265d ago

Think they're released separately on psn, but in a bundle on disc

doogiebear4265d ago

Yes go to "Full Ps3 games" in the psn store and look under "M" for the games. They just rolled them out over the last 2 weeks.

RowSand4265d ago

im on eu store im looking for peacewalker

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The Metal Gear series has sold over 59.8 million copies

300,000 Metal Gear games were sold during the first quarter of 2023, Konami has announced, bringing the total number to 59.8 million.

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FallenAngel1984355d ago

Still waiting on Konami to put the MGS Collection back on digital stores

Nyxus355d ago

I know right? And rerelease the games for current gen systems while they're at it.

just_looken354d ago

Do not worry they will give use those pichincko remakes for top dollar soon.

Metal gear solid 3 in the fox engine looked/ran amazing but was sealed away :(

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sarcasm355d ago

I know re-makes and stuff have been played to death this generation.

But damn I wouldn't mind an MGS4 remake

gold_drake354d ago

i played it quite recently and it holds up very well

CantThinkOfAUsername354d ago

It does, but a remake will be available on platforms other than PS3.

itsmebryan355d ago

I thought the series would have sold more over all these years and different releases.

Ready4nxtgen355d ago

Yeah I would have thought over 150 Mil. Something.missing here

Nyxus355d ago

Metal Gear isn't that big, and there hasn't been a new release in years. Also MGS2 and 3 are still missing from digital storefronts.

shinoff2183354d ago

5 mgs games in total if I'm not mistaken. 59 60 million seems about right. Mgs is dope to some of us but it would be hard for a lot of regulars to understand

ChasterMies355d ago

I would love to buy MGS4 but it’s still a PS3 exclusive.

JEECE355d ago

Although there are notable exceptions (GTA, certain first-party Nintendo games, Gran Turismo), as a rule games didn't sell as much in earlier generations as they have in the past few generations. So a lot of PS1-PS2 era titles that are viewed as seminal games didn't actually sell all that much by today's standards (yes, despite the large install bases of those systems lol). I remember a similar surprised reaction happening a few months ago when Square announced the total overall sales of Final Fantasy VII.

Deathdeliverer355d ago

Some of the best fun you can have online was the first metal gear online and to a lesser, but still fun to an extent, MGO2. The magazine, CQC, stealth, and tactical play Vs real players is just a blast. Not to mention playing Snake vs everyone? Amazing. The game will never be the same without Hideo, but Konami can definitely update what’s already there and take my money.

ceyoga354d ago

You wouldn't be talking about the OG MGO that was included with MGS3:S would you? It's rare running into another former player. Those were some of the best memories of any online game I had.

Deathdeliverer354d ago

Yes my man!! That seems like the BEST game that nobody played! Tranquilizer pistol, drag the body to a corner and lay a girly mag right by their head so they wake up and instantly get caught by the mag. You could get real toxic if you wanted at that point, but man that game was incredible! The only thing annoying was that damn Konami ID

P_Bomb355d ago

Did my part!

“You’re pretty good” 🫡

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Kojima looks back on Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes on its 9th anniversary

Hideo Kojima: "After the launch, many people seemed to expect GZ to be a full game."

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-Foxtrot413d ago

People would have gotten “your intention” if you stated it from the beginning but people didn’t want smaller episode like MGS games.

He should have just focused on MGSV and work Ground Zeroes into that game instead

I_am_Batman413d ago

I don't remember there being confusion over Ground Zeroes being a full game. But then again I was just starting to catch up on the MGS series as a whole at that point so I might've not paid enough attention or simply have forgotten that there was confusion about it. I bet the whole Moby Dick Studios thing didn't help the casual observer understand what the hell was going on though.

I only got both MGSV games when Phantom Pain was already out and I kinda agree that it probably would've sucked if I had to wait one and a half years to pay The Phantom Pain after Ground Zeroes.

jambola413d ago

I'm sorry what now?
Who expected that?
If it was meant to be episodic or an experiment for that, the price should / would have reflected that

MadLad413d ago (Edited 413d ago )

To be fair, there really wasn't enough content to actually justify even the smaller price tag. It was still half the cost of a full game, yet a 20th of the content.

I can't stand these paid glorified demos.

CrimsonWing69412d ago

Honestly, it was basically similar to the FF15 Duscae demo. My theory is he was taking too damn long to make a game and Konami was like, “Sell what you got!” It just has kind of a scummy corporate “let’s sell this demo for half the price of a full game,” feel to it.

That’s just my take on it. I love Kojima and I love the MGS series, but this and 5 were the biggest let downs, ever. Clearly unfinished work forced out because, in Konami’s defense, Kojima was going over budget and taking forever on the project.

MIDGETonSTILTS17413d ago

Lol, I loved Ground Zeroes, but releasing that level at $40 during a dryspell for games at the onset of the new gen was an obvious cash grab.

I handed over my money happily, but plenty of non-diehard fans were understandably letdown by the scale of what $40 bought them.

Chocoburger412d ago

The price was originally $40 for the physical PS4 and XBO versions, but due to controversy it dropped down to $30 before launch. And as much as I love GZ, and even bought it twice, I do agree that $30 was too much. It should have launched at $20.

https://kotaku.com/konami-c...

staticall413d ago

I don't know how about anyone else. But i've bought it for $20 1 week after release (or $15, don't remember the exact exchange rate) and spent 24 hours beating every mission and getting all the steam achievements. I was 100% aware what the game was about beforehand though and i did enjoy every second of it. I knew it was a work in progress and it was probably the best and less restrictive game i've played in a long time (and controls were just perfect).

Even previous MGS games didn't gave me that much freedom as Ground Zeroes did.
Love stealth? Got you covered.
Want to speedrun? Here's the timer.
Wanna kill everyone? No problem, grab that AK then and let's party.
Wanna cause chaos? Just tell Pequod where to land.
Love to drive? Then go ahead.
Miss Raiden? Then play as him.

I wish they would continue MGSV, finish remaining chapters and add more missions as DLCs, there was SO many options... A poor man still can dream...

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Metal Gear Solid V Is The Greatest Stealth Game Ever Made

Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful. Everything about it is mechanically focused and aesthetically nuanced, and not a single thing feels out of place or without purpose. Big Boss moves about each environment with a pace that provides the perfect cadence to use all manner of gadgets in whatever ways you like.

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Mobis-New-Nest585d ago

You are incorrect and I will be taking this time to correct you. The Legend of Zelda Wind Waker Forsaken Fortress is stealth that no game has yet to match. Having Link, crawl, sneak and hide under a barrel is innovative stealth that Metal Gear Solid, Splinter Cell, Thief and Tenchu wish they had achieved. I rest my case.

ChubbyBlade584d ago

Cardboard box beats barrel

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got_dam584d ago

Lol I see what you did there.

fr0sty584d ago

So tired of opinion pieces... I come here for hot news, not hot takes.

-Foxtrot584d ago

Shit Metal Gear Solid game though

It's boring, empty, repetitive

Great mechanics and gameplay but it's just so dull....

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Chard585d ago

I played it long after the hype had settled, and I had a blast with it. Strip away the disappointment over what it could have been, and you're still left with a great game

porkChop585d ago

The gameplay loop was phenomenal, no question. From a gameplay standpoint it's an incredible stealth game.

porkChop585d ago

"Hideo Kojima was dealing with a hostile publisher who was pulling his team’s game apart at the seams in order to launch in some form of finished state, and it’s still downright masterful."

Let's not pretend Kojima was entirely innocent there. The game was 5+ years into development, way over budget, and wasn't even halfway done. That's why Chapter 2 is so unfinished and Chapter 3 was scrapped entirely. He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made. The same thing happened with MGS: Rising. That's why the game got rebooted as MGR: Revengeance and was handed off to Platinum. That's the only way the game was going to get finished. And yet after wasting millions on a scrapped game, MGR only went on to sell a little over 1 million units. It was a failure no matter how you look at it.

That's why Kojima was "locked away" in his office for the final 6 months of development of MGSV. So the team could actually piece together and finish the game. Was Konami just supposed to let Kojima spend more than a decade with infinite funds to make one game? Kojima isn't Rockstar, his games don't sell 170+ million units. At some point the game has to come out.

I get that Konami are a garbage company but they aren't solely responsible for what happened with Kojima. As much as I love his games and will always be a fan, MGSV was almost entirely Kojima's fault and I'm tired of people pretending that it wasn't.

MIDGETonSTILTS17585d ago

Sounds like mismanagement by Konami.

generic-user-name585d ago

Can you prove any of what you're claiming? Because I've seen Kojima build a studio and release a AAA game in 3 years with Death Stranding. All I'm seeing here are the same conspiracy theories that people like to believe to confirm their biases towards certain people, same with Neil Druckmann. For instance, MGSV may have been in development for a while but you leave out that he was also having the FOX Engine developed alongside it, an engine so good that MGSV ran at 60fps on a PS4.

He's gone on record disputing that he ever goes over budget on very rarely has to delay his titles.

"He was wasting time micromanaging and second-guessing everything his team was doing, and little to no progress was being made."

Where did you get this from?

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Workshyskiver585d ago

Best gameplay of the series hand down, its not even close. Worst story in the series hand down, its not even close.

Ezio2048585d ago

But that ending though with amazing music. The Man who sold the world.

1Victor585d ago

I can’t say it’s the best or the worse to me I stopped playing metal gear at the end of 4 the official end of the snakes saga and the best in my book was 3 snake eater excellent gameplay and excellent story telling giving us the reason for big boss to go and create his own country before the metal gear saga on the 4-8 bits consoles.

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