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Video Game Hard Copies: Why They Still Exist

Digital marketing the future of video games? Let's just take it easy for a minute.

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thebudgetgamer4311d ago

They are still around because retail partners are very important to console makers. The same reason downloadable games are usually the same price or more than retail.

If you get rid of disk based games you cut retail out of a lot of money and they can chose to not carry your console, and we all know the fate of consoles sold through catalogs.

Gaming1014311d ago

The author must be one of those people who believes everything he reads on the internet.

"People are always saying physical media is dead, so why is physical media still even around??????"

What a dumb shit.

Physical media thrives because it was never dead in the first place, stop believing every retarded pile of shit you read on the internet. You think people want to just pay whatever high price Sony sets for games like on PSN with no competition, thus making a monopoly on the supply of games with no ability to trade or sell them to someone else? Of course not! Digital media has very few advantages - one being that fat, useless lazy people don't have to get their fat asses off the couch and go to the store and buy a game, or even order it online. They can sit their using up tons of bandwidth and hard drive space on a game that they can never lend to anyone, or resell to anyone. Great.

Xelmen4311d ago

Oh gee, you're breaking my heart with such hurtful language. I'll ignore the personal attack because it looks like, as all rabid animals should be, you've already been muzzled and chained to a small post in the corner where you can sit and growl at passers by, filling up your little neck of the world with the garbage that randomly escapes from the tightly bound stinkhole you have for a mouth. I've already bubbled you down, yet again, and I'm hoping we can eventually limit you to zero comments.
-notice-
Please read the article before you post trash in my comments section.

Xelmen4311d ago

That's why I mentioned Gamestop at the end. At the same time, however, retail partners are screwing game developers out of a lot of money by selling used games, this is the main reason anyone wants to move to digital copy to begin with. It has absolutely nothing to do with the consumer.

Hicken4310d ago (Edited 4310d ago )

You seem bothered by what Gaming101 said. The truth, though, is that he's right.

Physical media hasn't gone anywhere. The entire time that digital sales have come to be seen as important- particularly in console gaming- physical sales have seen their highest numbers in the history of gaming.

Piracy is a problem, but you're oversimplifying the issue: the vast majority of pirates have no intention of buying, so talking about how much money the industry COULD BE making if only those people BOUGHT their copies is pointless. You don't hear the automotive industry talking about how much money they COULD BE making if people didn't steal cars, because they're not stupid enough to think that the people who steal cars are necessarily potential buyers.

GameStop is the poster child for the WRONG way to do business, as far as trading in games is concerned. But while the “trade in every game you’ve ever collected throughout your entire, pathetic, soda-drinking life in exchange for 1 and a half new games today!” scheme is truly how they work(and make their money, because there's no way in Hell they'd be able to run a business based purely off selling new product; you'd be a fool to think otherwise, and I bet you do, don't you?), the admittedly small value they give you for your 7 year-old game is STILL 75 cents more than you'd get for a digital version of the same title: NOTHING.

There are other factors at play, as well, factors which you neglect in order to make physical media seem outdated, inferior, and/or on its way out. Such as ownership: trading a game- not just for money- or lending it to friends and family just isn't possible with a digital copy; digital media corrupts more readily than physical media, and hardware failure can mean the loss of your whole library, instead of just one game caught in a disc tray.

But you'd ignore things like that, of course.

Edit: Oh, I left out the whole "feel" factor: just the SENSE you have of possessing something because you can put your hands on it. Being able to show it off to your friends when they come over. Organizing it how you want(I sometimes do mine by developer/publisher, just because I can). These things are far more appealing than staring at folders on a screen and thinking of that as your "collection."

KaliSarKwan4310d ago (Edited 4310d ago )

Alright, I'm cheating here, because I'm out of bubbles, but I feel I have the right to defend my creation.
This article is not trying to make hard copy seem outdated, because this was meant as a counter argument to all those articles that claimed that very thing. I prefer hard copy, and using programs like steam is infuriating. You're right Hicken, Gaming101's comment did upset me, not because of the attack, but because it was so painfully obvious that he didn't even read the damned article at all. You seem to have read it, given the fact that you quote it, and, unlike Mr. 101, accurately, but it seems I wasn't clear enough on my point, at least not for you.

This article is meant to point out of the not-obvious flaws in the pure digital copy idea. There. It should be plain now as to what this article is about. I would love for you to give it another try without the bias this comments section seems to have built up.

Edit: And I shouldn't have replied the way I did to Gaming101. I was wrong to do so, not just because of the harshness, and admitted immaturity of the words, but because it was a perfect opportunity to make a valid point, and I did not take it.

Ducky4311d ago (Edited 4311d ago )

So, the retail owners will decide to just not sell games/consoles if Sony/MS/Nintendo offer games for cheaper on their digital store? O.o

Seems like an odd thing to do as the retailers just lose out on customers. Market goes on supply and demand, and as long as there's a demand, someone will fill the vacuum.

Besides, you already have services like PS+ that are essentially offering games for 'free'. Retailers haven't done anything in response... and isn't Vita making digital games cheaper?
Seems more that it is just greed on the part of developers/publishers that keeps prices where they're at, rather than the fear of retailers.

brettyd4311d ago

Hopefully they always exist.

kingPoS4311d ago (Edited 4311d ago )

Who doesn't like looking at a shelf of games and think to themselves (I'll always have this)
I also enjoy being able to physically put my games in their cases.
Nothing wrong with that!

It's to bad instructions are becoming pamphlets today.

Batzi4311d ago

because we want them. I like the physical copy more and I am a collector.

Xelmen4310d ago

Please don't simply give a half-assed answer to the question this poses, then leave. I've researched, wrote, and posted links all having to do with the complexity that actually goes into answering this question. I have covered the obvious (or, at least, the mostly obvious, left out everything too obvious) and I've gone into why a digital medium is favorable in the first place.

hint: it has almost nothing to do with the consumer, and almost everything to do with how much people are getting screwed.

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GameStop Boss Says Disc Drives Should Be Required On Game Consoles

"It would be great if people had to buy more of the thing," says guy who makes money selling the thing.

XiNatsuDragnel272d ago

Absolutely consoles needs disc drives.

wesnytsfs272d ago

Nah should be optional. Not a PS fan but I like their strategy of selling an optional external optical drive. Its all about Options and this will let everyone get their way. Cheaper for digital only and then you can chose to pay more for the optical drive if that is important to you.

Profchaos272d ago

That's not official yet it's only a rumour

Eonjay271d ago

@Profchaos

But what he describes already exists in the 2 base models. If it is a rumor you can blame Microsoft for really backing it in court but if we are honest we all know it's true.

Profchaos271d ago

@Eonjay I'm not denying the appeal of it I can see it being a useful mechanism for allowing gamers to upgrade as needed however until there's concrete proof and not speculation and remember ms still bases that court submitted document off of the same leaks we see on Reddit, 4chan etc I just can't believe it.

The system would be further opened to exploitation and they would need to release an overpriced drive for consumers to buy for it and sure as they do we will hear complaints over the cost of it

ChasterMies271d ago

Absolutely consoles don’t need disc drives. My house has 2 PS5 digital editions, one since launch. Zero issues with the lack of disc drives. In fact, the digital purchasing lets us all share each other’s games, usually mine, and play the same game at the same time on-line.

shadowT272d ago

Optional drives would be best strategy.

-Foxtrot272d ago

If they did then collectors wouldn’t be getting f***** over with discless collectors editions

jeromeface271d ago

yea they would, discs cost extra... even when you're already paying a premium

-Foxtrot271d ago (Edited 271d ago )

Lmao

We are paying roughly the same now without the discs. There’s literally collectors editions which are roughly in the same price range that have a disc.

I’d rather pay a little more for something physical anyway

RupeeHoarder272d ago

No shock, GameStop is alive because of trading. If they don't have used games on their shelves they are absolutely donezo.

darthv72272d ago

Well of course the GS boss thinks this... that's their bread and butter business. That and funco pops and clothing, though those two were added as a means to supplement the decline in people buying used games or even new games. GS just sucks overall when it comes to gaming. I buy my physical stuff on Amazon or Best Buy.

As for "requiring" disc drives... nah. Not anymore, but i like having them as an option. They had a means back when games actually ran off the discs and were more/less complete. Now they are incomplete and the disc is really an installer with a license to play. If you want to change games you have to take out the disc and put in another. Its more convenient to just use digital. I have been into digital for years now and when the PSPortal comes along i wont even have to go into my game room. I will just play my PS5 from my couch downstairs. I have a bunch of digital installed games to my 5... I'm all set.

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Xbox Series X owners can effectively grab a 'free' PlayStation 5 right now

Gamingbible writes: "Luckily, if you’re living in the US you can trade your Xbox into Gamestop, where you’ll receive a hefty amount of cash as well as a $50 bonus for certain customers, just short of enough to buy the PS5."

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Jin_Sakai301d ago

A good deal for those who want a console with games.

S2Killinit299d ago (Edited 299d ago )

Lol well, we tried. But you cant save a person from drowning if they wanna hold on to their fur coat.

Im kidding off course.

Hypertension140300d ago

@Julion0715 @ichdich

So you guys won't change consoles?, give me reasons.

Your answers will probably explain why I'm so f**cking pissed off at Microsoft for buying two large mulitplatform publishers.
It isn't easy right? but you guys don't care because is not happening to you.

Lightning77300d ago

No thank you? N4G won't stand for this blasphemy!

SF releases next month hopefully that should give ppl incentive to keep their console. I know there's PC you can play there to but not everyone wants to play on PC.

Rockstar300d ago (Edited 300d ago )

@Hyper,

My guess is they love either their piece of plastic, their corporate overlords or gaming on the cheap.

Likely a combination...

itsmebryan300d ago

@hyper
Gamepass and I have a gaming PC so, I can play all the Sony "exclusives " at a higher frame rate and graphical fidelity. Why would I trade my Xbox for PS5.

After adding ABK they will have even more games at a great value.

Lexreborn2300d ago

@bryan

By that same logic what would be the point of having an Xbox? If you have a pc that handles both ps5 and Xbox games you don’t need either.

Rockstar300d ago

@ Lex,

Bringing logic into it?
That's low!

itsmebryan299d ago

@lex
I got my gaming PC last year to replace my old PC and I already had a XSX. It's pretty simple.
So, Zero horizon was disappointing and Spiderman/ miles ( got both for $50)are just ok. I might get R&C when it goes on sale.

Zhipp299d ago

@Hypertension
If I had time for a PS5 I would have bought a PS5 by now. I intend to someday, but at the moment my backlog is too big. Not only would I have to trade in all my games (for pennies on the dollar) and rebuy them for PS5, but Xbox actually finally has some exclusives coming out in the near future that interest me. I'll get a PS5 whenever Naughty Dog's next game comes out, at the latest.

fr0sty299d ago (Edited 299d ago )

@itsme

"I can play SOME the Sony "exclusives " years later. Some of them run better, some run worse." - Fixed

MrNinosan299d ago

@bryan
Your logic is amazing.
Not even close to all the Playstation games is being released on PC, and if they are, it's years past release, and often in a state when PC masterrace people cries anyways.
By logic, you should have a PS5, a PC and maybe a Switch if you're into that crap.

Especially as 100% of the Xbox games is also release on the PC, day and day.

Toncsipapa299d ago

Obsivously you get dislikes on this ps fanbooooy page :D

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Rockstar300d ago

@Jin

Judging by the replies here some of these people don't prefer games :).

On topic, I wish I could trade in my xbsx for a steam deck!

Julion0715300d ago

Then sell the x and get a steam deck 🤦🏾‍♂️

Rockstar300d ago

Why didn't I think of that?
Thanks for the tip! /s

goldwyncq299d ago (Edited 299d ago )

What games? FFXVI is the only true exclusive PS5 has right now and that's going to PC eventually too.

itsmebryan300d ago

@jin-Sakai
What games are you looking forward to this year?

Jin_Sakai299d ago

Spider-Man 2 and there’s plenty of great games to play that released over the years. Can’t say the same for Xbox.

DarXyde299d ago (Edited 299d ago )

There's a pretty decent slate of games coming out this year for all platforms. Armored Core looks great, Mortal Kombat 1 looks great, the info we're getting on Tekken 8 has me thinking it's coming this year. Sea of Stars can't be slept in either. If we're just talking about PlayStation games, Spider-Man 2 and Stellar Blade are expected to release this year and both look great.

I believe jin-sakai has an Xbox Series X (I could be wrong), but I reckon they're interested in those games, along with Starfield. That aside, Mario Wonder, Super Mario RPG, Star Ocean, and Suikoden I and II are all very welcome titles for the rest of the year.

I think no matter what platform you're playing on, there's enough there to generate a backlog.

EDIT: How the hell did I forget Lies of P? 🤡

shinoff2183299d ago

Darxyde

"Starfield. That aside, Mario Wonder, Super Mario RPG, Star Ocean, and Suikoden I and II"

Enough said. That's my game slate for the rest of the year.

DarkkMinion300d ago

That ain't a deal at all. Trading in a beast of a console for that, I don't think so.

Jin_Sakai299d ago

It’s a beast alright. Lol

“Digital Foundry about XSX teraflops advantage : It's kinda all blowing up in the face of Xbox Series X“

Jin_Sakai299d ago

All these “No thank you” comments from duplicate accounts. Lol

Christopher299d ago

I mean, I wouldn't trade in one console for another but instead buy both, prioritizing one over the other based on games I like.

Jin_Sakai299d ago

That would be the obvious choice but some might only be able to afford one or the other. And you have fans who will only support their console of choice regardless.

FinalFantasyFanatic299d ago (Edited 299d ago )

The PS5 is a better deal in the end, I really can't see the appeal of sticking with the Xbox.

DOMination-299d ago

"A good deal for those who want a console with games."

Like what? After all that bravado, the only game you could name was one that isn't out yet (Spider-Man 2)

Don't get me wrong, the XSX lineup in pathetic. But lets not pretend that the PS5 is any better. You can count the number of console exclusives for both on one hand.

If you're looking at games announced with release windows, there's only one console to get as it stands if you want games and it's not the PS5.

Jin_Sakai299d ago

PS5 has one slow year yes but they will start pumping out games soon and everyone knows the quality of their first party games are unmatched.

shinoff2183299d ago

Did the Xbox get any legend of heroes games, alot of jrpg type games skip the Xbox so unless your not into those types of games Xbox isn't a good choice at all. Alot of us from what I see have stuck with sony for the longest because they've had a great jrpg catalogue from 3rd party developers that xbox just can't touch. Those of us that enjoy alot of different games will get both consoles , I bought my series x about two weeks ago for starfield. It will only get used for a game here or there, most likely anything rpg related.

crazyCoconuts299d ago

Hard to tell who are in the Xbox Ambassador program from some of these comments. But for the masses, the console sales numbers are telling us which way the winds are blowing. XBox is in an important/pivotal moment right now imo

The_Blue299d ago

It's cool, I'll stick with my Xbox.

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Elda300d ago

At this point in time If I didn't own a PS5 I would have done this in a heartbeat but I had already acquired a PS5 first before I acquired an XBSX.

darthv72300d ago

I'll stick to keeping both. Gamestop though... seems kind of desperate to take in Series X units. What could they be plotting???

Eonjay300d ago

Almost certainly their plan is to charge obscenely high prices for a used Xbox.

myfathersbastard299d ago

They make pure profit on used consoles. They don’t share any of it. And they’re generally only like $50-$100 cheaper than new.
So they “sell”a PS5, make their small cut from that. Then sell the refurbished Xbox and get to keep all of it. It’s win win. They get a small cut on PS5, and a large cut from the Xbox.

Profchaos299d ago

Could be two fold sell as much base ps5 stick before the slim or pro drop and resell the xsx for those after a starfeild machine

jznrpg299d ago

PS gamers buy games number one. And they make money off used consoles. It’s a double benefit for them

Charlieboy333299d ago

Collecting more Series X consoles to sell on to MS for the cloud

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Lexreborn2300d ago

I just want some games for my series X I have both since release and after weighing the offerings in PS Essentials to Gamepass I quickly realized I Owned anything of worth in both catalogs. And, the things I didn't I didn't see as justifiable for maintaining both subs.

Since then my series X is a legacy machine that I play my old games on and that's it. 3 years ago I really thought from that Xbox showcase we were going to have some great games by now. Instead, it's just been a lot of meh

Chevalier299d ago

Yep. That's why I waited this generation to have a reason to buy the Series X. Got horribly burnt buying the Xbox One because I decided they had games I was interested in then they canceled the games I wanted right after.

Was tempted after they had that great showing awhile back and am glad I waited because it would have collected dust for 2 years otherwise. Couple games out and on the horizon that look pretty good. Might be a good purchase in a couple years.

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GameStop CFO to Resign in Latest Executive Departure From Retailer

GameStop’s chief financial officer is resigning, in the latest of several executive departures from the video game retailer.