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Jade Raymond: "our audience expects perfection", and this "limits innovation"

Splinter Cell boss: "You have to revert back to what you know does work."

Axonometri4274d ago

I do not expect perfection. That is something not even obtainable. I expect quality. Truly innovative games are seldom in last decade. You know what really keeps people stoked, something new.

Not too many people get all worked up over a 10 year old bashed up sedan with new shiny 20" wheels. The industries biggest issue right now is hanging on to what sells instead of taking chances on the new ideas I know are out there. The industry is full of bright minded creative people. Unfortunately, Corporate greed has wrenched its sweaty pale hands around those who make the whole thing possible and rules this industry also.

Pushagree4274d ago

And instantly we have the "I never once thought that!" group that comes in whenever someone tries to correctly generalize gamer flaws. If gamers like innovation so much, why was Black Ops 2's setting met with such harsh skepticism? If gamers like innovation so much, why is every character redesign cause gamers to send death threats to developers? If gamers love innovation so much, why do they tell developers to remake old sequels rather than make new ips?

Gamers hate the unknown. They are more confortable with what has already been done well because we as a species gravitate towards what is familiar more than an unknown that could possibly fail. This is the way it has always been ever since gaming set it's foot in the ground last generation. That's when the big names like GTA, Call of duty, Mario, Halo, God of War, and Final Fantasy defined their respective genres and now we just say "we want more of that!" instead of welcoming newer ips from a genre we may not have even heard of yet. This is why devs have dropped so many promising titles this generation. They see them as a bad investment because of the way gamers at large think.

wishingW3L4274d ago

redesigning a character is not innovation. Changing the genre of a established franchise is not innovation. Changing stuff that works for stuff that doesn't like FF13 did is not innovation. Innovation is not just change for the sake of it but change that brings new stuff that works, otherwise, those are called gimmicks.

Why do we want remakes? Because it'll probably be better than the next cookie cutter game that they'll release.

Blacklash934274d ago

It's new and bold. That should be praised on its own merits because it helps fight back gaming as a generic commodity. We need more creativity and not more generic shooters and stagnating franchises.

It doesn't always work out, but sometimes it is better than being handed the same thing in a different package over and over again.

I realize the issue isn't that simple, but I'm just offering another legitimate perspective here.

calis4274d ago

@Wishing - Innovation is bringing change. That is all. It doesn't have to work or be successful to make it innovative.

Soldierone4274d ago

Last I checked, people are in love with all the new IP's coming out and getting established. One of the hottest games coming out is Boarderlands 2....

COD is getting hate because it has haters, period. Its not the fans hating it, its the "anti-cod" scrubs hating it. People hate DMC because they took a badass character and made him into an annoying little punk....People hate a lot of "innovative" shooters because all the developers did was dumb it down and make it play like COD. Remember when Splinter Cell adverts showed off sneaking around in unique ways and it competed with Metal Gear? Then jump to todays Splinter Cell and he is in the middle of a friggin gun fight and the game feels like Ghost Recon....

It's annoying. Innovative is NOT being like someone else and instead offering a new experience, rather it be through story or gameplay.

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cannon88004274d ago (Edited 4274d ago )

@ Axonometri

"Not too many people get all worked up over a 10 year old bashed up sedan with new shiny 20" wheels."

dude you're gonna piss off the mexicans

haha just joking around!

TBM4274d ago

we can never have perfection, just take chances if these devs have a great idea for a new game they shouldnt be afraid to throw it out there.

give me a fun quality game, and you'll get my money.

Mike_Tha_Hero4274d ago

Lies, the way people tear through RE6 you'd think they didn't want the series to progress.

SilentNegotiator4274d ago (Edited 4274d ago )

If you think an established horror series becoming more and more "pew pew pew" is equivalent to "progress"....

SilentNegotiator4274d ago (Edited 4274d ago )

Jade making a stupid comment? I'm in shock!
/s

Expecting a decent product, and only new 'innovations' that actually work well (and reflect the quality of the rest of the product)....does NOT "limit innovation"

I'm absolutely sick of these pubs/devs that can't take criticism. As soon as they're criticized, they demonize customers and cry about how modest expectations are 'killing' them. God forbid they make a product for the people buying it.

humbleopinion4274d ago

@Axonometri
"You know what really keeps people stoked, something new"

Yeah, tell that to the flamboyant fanboys who heard that SC:Conviction is introducing new M&E mechanics, B&W stealth indication etc. and is getting rid of carrying bodies around...

mochachino4274d ago

The industry's biggest problem is that gamers don't buy innovative games, they keep buying the same type of games. If the "same rehashes" didn't sell, the corps wouldn't make them.

Blame gamers more than anything, they vote for what they want with their dollars.

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prototypeknuckles4274d ago

i dont expect perfection, i just want a good game that stays true to the roots of the series, nothing is perfect, though i do see a lot of gamers that want everything in a game theyre way and if its not they completly wright it off.

Axonometri4274d ago

It is true though, aside a few, we need innovation. I like series. I always look forward to what will be next. Don't you want to see and experience something new after... 15 games of the same thing though?

SilentNegotiator4274d ago

Nope. If they want to create a new IP, then fine.

But I don't want my favorite horror series to turn into a shooter. I don't want my favorite platform to become primarily a racer.

Changing genres doesn't equate to innovation. It's that simple.

Lord_Sloth4274d ago

I just want my Classic Splinter Cell as opposed to this Action Shooter with stealth elements we've been given.

h311rais3r4274d ago

Well too bad because games like call of duty have proven action sells better!

It's a sad time for stealth fans....it's neglect I tell you!!!

I want my real Sam fisher back!

Whitefeather4274d ago

You can innovate...make a new IP. Don't take a perfectly good series and changing everything but the name....looking at you Capcom as well.

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Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell - A Decade in the Shadows

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell has been out of action for a decade, so it's time to look back at 2013's Splinter Cell: Blacklist.

CoNn3rB249d ago

Sam Fisher is evidently the most skilled stealth operative because no-one has seen him in his own game for years

kevco33249d ago

10 years, in fact. He must be, like, 60 by now?

phoenixwing249d ago (Edited 249d ago )

why make an inspired game that takes effort when you can half ass it with multiplayer gaas games and filler filled assassins creed games?

That question up there is the reason you don't see splinter cell games

zarbor248d ago

Yup, another example that Ubisoft has no idea what they are doing.

MIDGETonSTILTS17248d ago

The entire mark and execute system belonged in another game.

It’s cool, but the polar opposite to how Sam Fisher initially handled.

The original trilogy made shooting very, very difficult, yet a viable option, which ultimately motivates stealth.

The mark/execute system makes shooting stupid easy, to the point of why would you even bother trying stealth as an alternative?

FYouDad248d ago

Because Ghost is the method fans of the series actually prefer? IMark and execute is never forced upon the player you liiterally never have to bother using it even once throughout Blacklist.

Tody_ZA248d ago

The sad part is that I actually really enjoyed the last game, Blacklist. It may have lacked the iconic voice but the gameplay was excellent, and blended stealth, action and a mix really great compared to most games, where none of the three options felt like the wrong way to play. I really hope they either produce a remake of the original game or a proper sequel.

Rikimaru-00248d ago

Isn't UBI Soft remaking splinter cell.

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Ranking the Splinter Cell Games From Worst To Best

The stealth icon has gone too stealthy of late, but the best Splinter Cell games still rank among the best games ever made.

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Sam Fisher Deserves Better

Alex S. from Link-Cable writes: "Ubisoft, we need to chat. Please, have a seat. Thanks. Ok, so I think you know why you’re here. No it has nothing to do with all those game delays, we’ll talk about that later. What? No it’s not about the Skulls & Bones and Beyond Good & Evil 2 falling off the face of the Earth, just listen. We need to talk about Splinter Cell. Don’t give me that look, you know this conversation needs to happen. The way you’ve treated the series, its fans and poor Sam Fisher himself is sad, infuriating and just plain disappointing and it needs to stop."

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Fist4achin1488d ago

The Fish!!!

I'd love to see a remastered edition of those games as well as something new. It's about time.

UltraNova1488d ago

MGS is done, at least as we know it so it's now or never Ubi, give Fisher the reboot it deserves. And for Gods sake, don't you dare turn Splinter Cell into another Division/Ghost reckon online abomination instead of a SP focused steath action game!

Psychonaut851488d ago

You know they will though. This is Ubisoft we’re talking about

zachyBROosevelt1488d ago (Edited 1488d ago )

I would love a new splinter cell, maybe even a reboot at this point. Sam Fisher deserves it

Profchaos1488d ago

I think reboot the entire franchise the games were great but every time they try to make him human like a father or something it comes of as unbelievable

hiawa231488d ago

They added damn near every SC game to Xbox1X back compat enahnced list. That is a lot of Sam enhanced and I am loving it, but Sam deserves a new next gen game.

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