Interview: Turning Point Lead Developer talks Xbox 360 and PS3 Differences

TheGameReviews.com had the opportunity to talk to Dean Martinetti about the upcoming Turning Point Fall of Liberty title. Dean reveals some key details regarding development for the PS3 and Xbox 360. One nugget from the article is that developers have not even come close to tapping 2% of the power that the PS3 has.

[cain141]

Yeah I can't wait to see the potential of these consoles being tapped.

[JsonHenry]

Lol, only 2%?! Bwuahahahahahahahaha!! Right now all other devs are laughing at him for making such a stupid statement. The damn OS in the PS3 uses more than 2%!!

This guy has lost all credibility in my eyes.

[Jandre02]

Our local n4g Cell programming expert, Json Henry.

Please go on Json, remember to explain that you know all of this because past experience programming for the Cell.

[TheXgamerLive]

That's exactly what I was thinking Jason, the OS and so on uses a hell of a lot more than 2% just to power up and maintain AC occurance.

I mean neither the Xbox 360 and it's 3 cores and dual threads nor the ps3's feautured cell is close to being tapped, in fact they both may never be.

This moron is well, just a moron. It's kissing ass that he's doing to maybe get a little publicity, but of course sony wannabe fan boys will say otherwise, so go ahead Ladies, spit or swallow.

[DrDreadlox]

He said that his engineer told him that they had tapped 2%, and i think thats referring to their game only. And that's just opinion because i thought that such a thing couldnt be measured as such.

The title is misleading so don't blame the guy if you didn't read the article.

@XGamer: Interesting point about how neither the xbox or ps3 may ever be fully tapped
I think that just might be the case if devs don't step up their game. Right now software is the weak link in most tech. Just lool at PCs, there is quad cores, ddr3, new gfx cards and almost nothing to that takes advantage of them.

If this trend continues, we might see this gen last longer that was anticipated (not necessarily a bad thing) because better hardware won't translate to better games.

[Foliage]

"The 360 was our lead SKU, we ported everything over to the PS3."

All of a sudden 2% seems about right, doesn't it?

[wizerd]

only 2 percent jesus uncharted was 2 percent ong what would 100 percent look like or even 50 percent amazing

[AngryHippo]

That is quite a claim. In that case i can't wait to see how amazing games 'should' look in the next few years on the ps3. I wonder how much of the 360's power they are using?!i know some idiot is going to say 'close to, if not all of it',lol, but i know as well as everyone else that that is not the case. 2%, either the PS3 is a piece of technology that is too powerful for this planet or the developer isn't really that good at getting anything from it. The other theory, this is my view anyway, is that they don't have the funding to get the potential out of. Only first party, PS3 exclusive titles will harness the PS3's power, and if this developers claiming only 2%, then the exclusives with a ridiculously big budget better blow me away.

[Relin]

I really doubt the 360 is anywhere near tapped, but after so long of people ripping apart the PS3 for being substandard against the 360, people are gonna backlash a bit.

[SWORDF1SH]

i think the xbox is close to being tapped. its easier to develop games for and its been out for over 2 years. i mean no developers are gonna get 100%. the ps2 only managed to be 90% tapped to date. but i would expect the 360 to go any much better than cod4. the ps3 will continue to develop for years to come just because of the harder to programme nature of the ps brand. a developer of rachet and clank as said that theie already gorgeous game will see the same leap in quality from the first generation ps3 rachet to the second generation ps3 rachet rachet as you see from the ps2 rachet to the first generation ps3 rachet, if that makes sense. and its not jus graphics. resistance 2 is pushing the envelope with 60 player online play. il be amazed if i see that on xbox. the signs are there. but is any third party games willing to tap the ps3 or are they gonna always keep the quality of games on the same level as the 360. btw the 2% thing is jus stupid. i kno the ps3 is powerfull but it aint a super computer (unless you link 20 together lol).

[Relin]

This title has lots of it, I hope it catches on with the mainstream. Too bad the guy couldn't give out any info on their next project... stupid NDAs.

[hunter21]

yeah what more the ps3 exclusive games,... developers only focus on one console so they got the potential to create a great quality games, cause they got all the time on it. like the MGS, FF13....ect.

[thegamereviews]

I remember when we talked to him he also stated that one reason games do not see their full potential is that there is a definitive time constraint placed on them by the publishers. For instance in Turning Point they wanted to do cloth movement and behavior, but they ran out of time.

[Genuine]

Personally, I wasn't very impressed with the demo. Also, I think this guy might be a stoner. lol

[AceLuby]

I don't know about you, but I WANT my developer to be a stoner ;)

[Genuine]

lol

[Darkiewonder]

but without the shorthand.

interesting though. He's trying to sell his game after the ps3 and redone game ideas.

[Relin]

"A/S/L?"

[Meus Renaissance]

Imagine the backlash he'll get if this game looks like a generic 360>PS3 port lol

[CNIVEK]

...it's pure sh1t. This guy is a complete jackass.

[Salvadore]

Develop a solid title and then come and talk to me about comparisions.

[andron]

Especially after playing the demo. Maybe they should look for other jobs?

[Gorgon]

2% ??? Talk about BS...

[CNIVEK]

Why the F@CK would ANYONE care what this guy has to say about the PS3, or ANY console development, for that matter? Have you SEEN TP:FOL ??? It's GARBAGE, people... early PS2/XBOX quality, AT BEST. I'm not surprised that this moron thinks only 2% of the PS3 has been tapped, because that's likely about all of the power of the PS3 and 360 they even used to run this crapfest.

[SoulReaper]

only 2 percent of ps3 power being tapped thats crazy..I hope more games will push the ps3 hardware..MGS4 looks awesome and killzone 2 and final fantasy VIII and versus..

There is so many great games..hopeuflly sony will get exclusive games because devlopers want to push their games to the max..and ps3 is able to do it for them

[Salvadore]

"I think the biggest problem there has been is everybody is rushing to get the consumer dollar. They are forgetting the core point of this whole thing. We have to make entertainment that is quality enough that the player is going to like it."

And this should be coming from his mouth?

[CNIVEK]

Who the hell cares what this 2-bit hack thinks?? TP:FOL is garbageware...should've been a launch title for the Phantom console. :o

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[nitramn4g]

is a wast of my superior intelligence!

[Funky Town_TX]

Now I see why that demo was sh8t. If you only use 2% of the PS3's power then you should charge 2% of $60 for your game. This was not even a $2 demo. I want my money back for the electricity I used to DL this demo.

[Nykamari]

FUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYY!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Marceles]

lol @ 2%...so the PS3 has the Cell and a human brain? I guess everyone's been making cellphone games for PS3 lately

[thegamereviews]

You do know that the xblive demo of FP is a old build from November 07 right?

*not defending it, but it is good to know the facts.

[Jandre02]

The amazing AngryHippo! So advanced in progamming for the Xbox360 that he would make Halo 3 look like a 640p game. He will proceed to explain that, through his own experience programming for the Xbox360, that the power has been completely untapped.

Go on AngryHippo! Tell us how you have come to your conclusion.

[power of Green]

I agree with useing 2% the Wii could easily run this title.

Just kidding this guy is fullofshit. The Wii has untapped power.

[sak500]

2%? LOL. I think they developed the game on ps2 and then ported to 360 and ps3 cuz it sure looks like it. The games not even worth for LIVE arcade. They should make games for cell phones maybe that way they can use 50% of its capacity.

[digger18]

Question?

This is not flaming BTW, I am generally interested in knowing.

If a PC with these specs:

Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Extreme QX6850
4 Gigs of Ram
Dual NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX SLI with 2 x 768MB GDDR3 dedicated video memory

And its reached its full limits with games like crysis, then why would a console with just 512mb total like the PS3 and 360, plus not as powerful GPU's as just one 8800 GTX, be able to run anything more than the games its got right now.

[moses]

People just LOVE to believe bullshit.

[Mattearl]

Okay.. well maybe they are... But i do believe him saying that the console's are still infants (mainly the PS3).

My guess is that the graphics are going to be improving slightly, but i think there is going to be A LOT more going on behind the scene's. Like grass blowing in the wind with the tree's. I think the whole environment is going to come to life within the next couple years.

Regardless if this game is good or not, he did put out some good points.

[Zinger]

Sounds like they have some really crazy in the works right now for their next release. It's good to hear that devs are getting excited about unlocking the PS3 potential. Sounds Great! Great interview.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

This game could run 2% on the N64. It's like reading an interview with Uwe Boll talk about what it takes to make a good movie.

[WilliamRLBaker]

yeah 2% ok *laughs hard* yep only 2% *laughs*

[BoneMagnus]

If you did, you know that this guy has no credibility. I think this game would run on my 2 year old free-with-contract cell phone. And this is in no way intended to insult the PS3's potential power - which I'm sure is huge - just want to be clear on that - I'm PRO PS3!!!(And 360 too of course)

Seriously, you can tell from my bubbles that I don't hate - the demo was really that bad, and if it was an "early build", the developer should have known better than to release it.

A demo is supposed to make you want the game - not scratch it off their "potential buy" list with a permanent marker and white out to hide the shame that you were ever interested in this game...

[MADGameR]

Naughty Dog made it PERFECTLY clear that Uncharted used 30% of the PLAYSTATION 3's power!

[GITPWNED]

2% LMFAO. stupid fanboys.

[Martini]

I totaly believe him - the game really looks that bad (2% bad :).

There is a cap on how much "power" developers can use on PS3 - if you go over it, it creates a black hole and sucks your whole development team in. Reports suggest that some of the developers manage to find their way back into our galaxy and are now back at work - blame the black hole for the delays :)