Black Ops II - Treyarch Dev Responds to Xbox 360 Favoritism Claims From PS3 Camp

MP1st - One thread titled 'BO2 on PS3: Lack of Developer Interaction and Dialogue' on official Black Ops II forums has attracted 208 replies, many of which came from disgruntled PS3 fans who are not satisfied with Treyarch's way of handling the community on the platform.

[Majin-vegeta]

Here's an idea stop buying the game and that hopefully will send a message...oh wtf am i talking about to many moron's out there who can't use their brains-___-.

[Irishguy95]

Majority of Cod players don't give a **** how they are treated, let alone go to the official forum and complain

[SleazyChimp]

Complain is one thing, bumpin ya gums at some one just to try and rattle their cage is another! There are far too many whinny bitches on the forums that need to man the fuck up. If you bought BLOPS 1 on PS3 and feel you got screwed, then hit the bastards where it hurts. Instead of crying about it and saying dumb shit like "I paid half your salary", boycott the garbage and make sure he nor Activision never gets another drop of your money. But no that makes too much sense. Instead they'll stand in line for 6hrs to buy the "I just got screwed edition" for $150 and be back here singing that same ol song and dance a year from now.

[Red_Orange_Juice]

MW2 was last Cod I played and I'm doing fine, just dont buy the game lol

[tehpees3]

Actually reading his response it seems very unprofessional. They do have a right to voice their concerns over communication.

[JhawkFootball06]

@Majin-vegeta

I find it ironic you are calling people morons when your grammar is off. It is too many, like too many people don't know the difference between to, two, and too.

[Diver]

I didn't blame the guy until this moment:

"...doesn’t care or have time for because he or she is working on trying to make a solid game for the platform(s) that developer represents."

Solid game? They are having the same issues, the very same issues that have persisted since CoD4. I do not care if it was a different dev house as it is all shared material. If they can surround themselves with neutral personnel that neither attack or butt kiss then they should have surrounded themselves with an engineer and a programmer that know how to code for the PS3. One good person in each field would be worth two lesser persons in the same arena. 

This guy seems to be making valid points and many of his remarks possess merit when standing alone. But at the end of the day when you have had the same problems for 5 games then you suck...period. Think about it...5 damn games. And here is a mercenary lesson he is ignoring, regardless if you are a good guy, when you are the voice on the forum representing the company line you have given up your individuality a nd if your product sucks then you suck. If your CEO sucks then you suck. Those are the choices you made so take your damned check to the bank and live with it. 

I was in MW3 this weekend and they have issues in there that are inexcusable. Many of them the result of barely tweaking a completely broken engine. An old engine that reeks of laziness. Adding a new type of killstreak is not fixing the engine. I am not talking about the visuals as those are actually serviceable despite muddy textures and lack of environmental damage. Rather I mean issues that I used to see in CoD4 and I played quite a bit in those days.

MoH - you can still find MP games and I was on this weekend - that and BF3 are far far better despite the rented server issue.

It's all machts nichts anyway because from what I am seeing MoH Warfighter is going to spank Black Ops II like a wet whore. Not in sales but in gameplay which trumps retail numbers. I really do not see a modern war shooter touching that for at least a year. Then we have Bad Company 3 enroute as well as the leaked BF4.

Treyarch are ripoff second chair developers. They were always living on Infinty Ward's scraps and now it shows. PS3 owners are stupid to keep buying this series. Personally I purchased MW2/3 after CoD4 because of the Price story but I'm done.

[SilentNegotiator]

Another thing: the N4G community isn't the entire gaming community or even a representative.

Most gamers don't check out any reviews, don't watch gameplay beforehand, don't consider the ethics behind that company, etc.

We might have noticed things like how they've recycled half of the sequences in their game, but that doesn't mean the average gamer has.

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Don't pretend like there is no favoritism. COD4 (when MS got their grubby little hands on the series, but only after the thing was developed) ran GREAT on the ps3 ("interchangeable" -Eurogamer). Then, SUDDENLY, CONVENIENTLY, the ps3 versions of the COD games went completely downhill.

[frelyler]

@SleazyChimp

"I just got screwed edition." that made my day thank you.

[Sono421]

This N4G community can keep calling the cod players stupid/ignorant/morons/ all you want but when I hear you say things like every cod has little to no changes or saying its pretty much a new map pack every year is just ignorance. The call of duty devs (Treyarch) have finally given you what you've been asking for. Drastic change, and they done so while somewhat keeping the cod formula with Black ops 2. Admittedly all of the old cods have been pretty much the same, there's no denying that, but continuing to make those comments when black ops 2 obviously realizes those problems and makes a difference is ignorance on your part not theirs.

[pixelsword]

CoD attracts idiots like turds attracts flies.

(No offense to anyone.)

It's not like ALL the CoD players are idiots, but man, the majority of them are playing CoD.

I've seen great players on games like Gears of War, Killzone, Warhawk, Halo, MAG and the like; but CoD is chock-full of idiots.

[Bigpappy]

Sony is to blaim for all the discontent that PS3 fans are having with developers. They are the ones who gave you and the developers this very complex cell processor and splited memory poll to work with.

Instead of calling out Sony for this, PS3 fans want to trash developers who don't spend that extra year working to get the PS3 version identical or better than the 360 version.

The extra content is all about who is willing to pay for it, the quality is what the devepoler is able to deliver with a resonable effort.

[SilentNegotiator]

@BigPappy

LOL! At least spell "blame" right if you're going to spew that BS.

Sorry, but the old "Teh cell is too hardz!" load doesn't work when COD4 worked just fine on the ps3. "Interchangeable" by Eurogamer's words. That didn't need "an extra year".

Nice try, though. Get some new PS3 hater semantics, buddy.

[Irishguy95]

Holy **** I got a bubble for this?

Rock on N4G.

[Jamzluminati]

I don't know why Irish guy what your comment has send me in hysterics right now. Probably because it's actually true.

[mewhy32]

Wow. This actually reminds me of the mycrysis.com forums for crysis2 on Xbox 360. A known bug exists on the Xbox version where the screen gets fuzzy and randomly turns on and off and with varying degress of severity. There has been no attention given to this and there a 100+ page thread on their forums talking about. But no communication. I can completely understand the ps3 community being pissed about this.

[Irishguy95]

I'm not even messing about it, majority of 'casuals' don't even realize Activision are treating them worse than every other dev. And even if they found out about it they wouldn't care. They don't know that it isn't normal for FPS to ebe released year after year with little to no improvements

[Welshy]

@irishguy

EXACTLY. your point completely shoots you in the foot.

if it wasn't for this "loud minority" calling for equality and equal treatment for the SAME GAME at the SAME PRICE as others, then think just how bad that we would REALLY be treated.

We need these "whiners" etc to an extent to make sure everyone else gets a better experience.

To be a fanboy is stupid, but to be labelled a "whiner" for wanting your game to run the same as another platform is perfectly acceptable, in fact i'd go as far as to say you're perfectly entitled to do so.

The way the BLOPS community manager handled the people on the forums was the equivalent to a child throwing his toys out his pram and was completely unprofessional.

People need to use their brains and start NOT BUYING the game if they are unhappy to really get their point across, i haven't played COD since MW2 and seeing the devs behave like this isn't putting me in a hurry to go back to the franchise.

[Mainsqueeze]

It was a pretty unprofessional response but i can agree with it. Alot of people on any forum(including this one(especially this one)) can be huge self entitled brats that hate on products or people for no reason. Taking jabs at people and trying to get your point across with emotion instead of logic is not the way to get a serious response.

[Calm Down Sunshine]

This sums up my feelings on the matter.

[DA_SHREDDER]

Amen Majin.

[chukamachine]

Stop making sense Majin. Have you got a death wish:)

[JhawkFootball06]

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[Nikhil]

morons, not moron's... you moron.

[ghost04]

Exactly, don't pre-order or buy the game on release day. Wait for reviews, or other stupid people to buy it first and hear what they have to say, or if they complain, and then use your own judegment to see if it's worth buying. Instead of throwing away $60 thinking, hoping that it was going to be different from last.

[chrispen9]

Do you think most of the people who buy the game care? The gamers are the minority in this. It's mostly the casual guys who buy this game because their friends are playing it. It's sometimes the only game they buy throughout the whole year because they know that's what they enjoy.

[geddesmond]

Lol the COD franchise is becoming stale. Its had its 5 years of success and people are getting tired of it. Every day more and more people are switching from COD to other FPS games like Battlefield 3. I don't even see people on my friends list play those games anymore and 2 years ago everyone was playing COD.

Its simple if PS3 players are sick of the bad COD treatment then go pre order MOH 2 and play that for your FPS fix this fall. Simple

[Oschino1907]

Or we could play Dust 514 which is exclusive, bigger, deeper and more epic then anything else offered on this gen of consoles. EA is worse by far IMO and there are plenty of other games in general. It's not a "black" or "white" situation, there are many games out there that aren't BF or MoH to fulfill your needs.

[Ashunderfire86]

The best form of protest is not to buy the game people!!! I say screw Call of Duty!!!

[Avalanche]

why do people act like Call of Duty is Lollipop Chainsaw? Call of Duty is a good game, its not the best but it sure as hell isnt the worst.

fact of the matter is that CoD games WILL come out every year like Sports games.....and Dragon Ball Games....and Dynasty Warriors games...and Mario Party. give it a rest, they make a billion dollars every year and thats hard to turn down.

and yes Activision obviously shows favoritism towards 360 because the PAY THEM TO. why this is new i have no idea. people should complain but its not gonna help because they are cashing those checks every year.

[geddesmond]

Whats a 1 million deal if even that for exclusive DLC to a franchise that makes billions??? Exactly. That whole deal was a show of favoritism. But its cOOL, its not like I still play COD, haven't played a COD games since the month Black ops 1 released.

Also no body is saying the games crap. We all know its a good game but the same shit every year gets boring after awhile. Its still going to sell millions every year but more and more hardcore gamers have turned their backs on it now for good.

[frankboy2012]

Its true tho mate thats the only way to get through to them is not to buy their game!!! But no one can resist temptation i stopped playing it over 6 months now defected to battlefield and while its not perfect atleast dice listen to what you want and got to say :)

[sonic989]

i didnt buy any COD game my entire life and that wont change ( nothing special )
but those people need to chill they are taking things faaaaaaar too seriously i mean if the team members are posting things about a specific platform that means they trying to fix something or announce something
and since MS already announced everything for COD at their E3 this year i see no reason to be suspicious
and in all the honesty in the world i wouldnt be a friend with anyone of those people they seem bad ( my opinion )

[showtimefolks]

stop buying it and play other great FPS shooters or another gener

darksiders 2
farcry 3
borderlands 2
medal of honor
AC3
sleeping dogs etc,,

the only way to make a statement from our end is by speaking with our wallets. Its really a sad thing when a company trying new things yet doing good games like THQ is about to go out of business yet millions of gamers keep buying the same game with a different paint job

and IMO MS has their hands with activision about ps3 version not up to par with xbox360 again IMO

[Omnislash]

>Call of Duty players.
>Brains.

Pick one.

[MalianteNCX]

Oh this nerd fkin sucks! So if I make a (very)shitty game, the people that are buying my overprice shit can then complain about it?. And because they complain about my careless about PS3, I will ignore them even when I eat most of because of them?!

[skyrim]

That pretty much sums it up people will buy this game regardless of opinion or problems.They just have to many friends who play it basically so i blame friends for this travesty lol.I will also be buying it so ya

[Jazz4108]

It works well on the 360 and according to n4g the ps3 crowd hates it because of recycled textures and on and on then why not just make it a 360 exclusive since obviously treyarch and infinity can't code for the ps3 as many devs have had issues in the past present and I'm sure future.

[user5467007]

Wow what a prick...

I'd understand if the guy who started that thread was horrible and immature but hes just pointing out the obvious and just asking some honest questions which I bet the majority of PS3 COD fans want to know the answer to.

It amazes me how anyone can suport these guys when they treat their communitty like crap.

What a horrible, non professional reply....

[skyrim]

I have to agree with you there anyone who bought the ps3 version must have a lot of questions for treyarch.There is really no reason to lash out at fans who just want some answers.

[Brosy]

It eludes me that no one has yet come to the conclusion that it is the PS3's architecture that devs have a problem with, not that the devs "suck" or are "lazy". How many games have to be inferior on the ps3 before their ignorant fanbase come to that conclusion? The ps3 was built around blu-ray first, not gaming. I would love to see how much better the 360 version of these "almighty exclusives" on ps3 would be on 360. But we will never know that will we. Pretty convient on the ps3 fanboys part don't ya think? I say it's time Treyarch pull a Gabe Newell and tell the truth about the ps3's architecture.

[Mustang300C2012]

Give me a break I think it was a very good response and he handled himself very well. You can't fight ignorance and self righteous and it showed what he was dealing with. Bottom line of this was the other way around you wouldn't be hearing crys like you do hear when it comes to fanboys like that. Ask the question but don't be a jackass about the question.

Lash out please. If you are gonna let someone ask you a question in that way then you deserve to be steamrolled. It is a video game product you have an opportunity to talk trevor devs and they don't have to provide an answer but if you are going to be comdensending and ignorant with your question you will get a response you don't like or non at all which is just as much within the right of the developers and companies to do.

[user5467007]

What do you expect from fans of a franchise who since Mordern Warfare have always had to deal with their version of the game being crap while they favor another auidence. Do you expect them to be all happy and nice after this has happened AGAIN to them and the fact they've also been ignored by Treyarch completely

[Patriots_Pride]

Well written! I have to agree with you there. I’ve been following the ME3 ending controversy ever since it broke out. The back and forth between game journalists and gamers is amazing. A lot of the game journalists seem to want to slap on the gamer stereotype or claim they are being entitled, whiny peons who should just shut up and not have an opinion. I haven’t finished ME3 yet, but the criticisms I’ve read from fans seem valid, logical, and intelligent. There will always be one or two people in forums or the comments section of a blog who are complete idiots, but it’s unavoidable. Usually if you encounter an annoying moron who has nothing good to say then just ignore them. People will always want to hate or be insulting. That kind of vitriol just needs to be avoided at all costs. Still, for every 1 idiot you get in a fanbase it’s not fair to label ALL fans the same way.

[Omar91]

yeah he sounds like a douche

[vallencer]

I find it funny that it's ok for people to act like assholes just not the professional people. I actually read all the replys and he wasn't being unprofessional at all actually every response was polite even if it seemed a little harsh but he never called anyone names and he just pointed out how being rude and negative doesn't get you anywhere. But that's ok keep thinking its alright to be an ass and see how far it gets you. Also I don't know if you read all of them but some of the comments from the people on the forum were rather uncalled for. Just because you "think" you know how things should work or run doesn't mean you can spout off stupid nonsense and be an ass. You don't know how businesses work and even if you say you do not all of them work the same.

[AAWELLS09]

Finally someone with some sense and who gets it for a change.

[HammadTheBeast]

They get paid for it, we don't. That's why professionals have to act nice. Robert Bowling was trolled in every way possible, but he never resorted to being a prick like that.

[joab777]

I kept an open mind when reading as I generally can relate to the developers and how hard it is to please everyone...and forums can be brutal. First, if people have the particular job to communicate with gamers then u can't use the excuse that u are too busy. If u have specific ps3 people, u can't say that u were busy with the Xbox. But I believe it goes deeper. It's the pink elephant in the room that lIIIeaves a bitter taste in the mouth of all ps3 players before they even play the game...Xbox exclusivity. Microsoft pays a ton of money and is very strict in what they want from activation for that money. It wouldn't surprise me if their was priority given to Xbox concerning issues. But I am sure there is a gag order too so u will never hear about it. I am sure he would deny this and claim conspiracy theor but look at the deal with bungie that came out in the west/zampella trials to see how anal microsoft is with their contracts. And this is the gap that exists prior to any communication. Now, if I worked with activation, I would know all this going in and understand that ps3 owners are going to be perturbed. I would handle with kid gloves and do my best to answer honestly about everything, including "I can't talk about that."

Now, he is probably in a precarious position trying to make everyone happy while not violating any agreements, but it's no excuse for letting gamers get to u. Maybe he needs a course in pr also. We are not so stupid to think that something isn't amiss when launch after launch, there are issues that aren't resolved until other platforms get fixed. Ps3 is almost always last. Is it Sony's fault? Who knows... but getting upset isn't the answer. He comes off as someone sitting up high on his own hill being bothered to answer questions claiming that if we don't act right, we won't get any info at all. Well, if we were happy with prior info, we wouldn't be angry. Anyway, as everyone has mentioned, it is all irrelevant and activation knows it. 90% of cod players don't frequent blogs or n4g and whether activation is personable or not has no bearing on their success.

It may change though. Ps3 is catching up to Xbox in numbers. Now maybe they may give a shit. But, Xbox still has exclusivity so I doubt it. It's strange though; With all the general issues with Cod (glitches, bad launches, no beta) the ps3 specific problems and the Xbox exclusivity, ps3 is gaining ground. Hmmmmm?

[HammadTheBeast]

Money talks.

[jdktech2010]

Personally I don't blame the guy...the internet can be uncalled for jerks at times

[Patriots_Pride]

This is all funny because everyone who is outraged by this and was planning on getting the game will still get the game. He knows this...

Not only are gamers assholes but they're suckers too.

p.s. Ive never had any interest in this game. I am indeed an asshole, but I dont do it on purpose.

[AAWELLS09]

Well said.

[Veni Vidi Vici]

If any platform should complain, it's the PC gamers. COD was born on the PC and they hardly support it now.

And like Mike said, that guy comes off as a complete jerk and totally unprofessional. He says Treyarch people "lurk" on the forums but don't post because they don't have the media training but then he goes and posts this stuff. Looks like he should have had some more media training.

[Mustang300C2012]

Because it doesn't sale compared to the platforms. Hell BF started on the PC and the console version of that game outsells blame other consumers for choosing the console version. Hell game stay do get handled better still won't make a difference on preference when the console versions will sale better.

[Veni Vidi Vici]

I understand there are better sales on the consoles but that's no excuse for the horrible support they have for PC games. It takes forever to fix glitches, cheats, etc- if they fix them at all.

If you're going to release the game on the platform, support it properly.

[HammadTheBeast]

Yes, but they don't sh*t on the PC version either. They keep the quality on each console to the best it can be. Sure, PC quality has lowered a little bit, but it's still the best of all 3 versions.

[Ducky]

Too bad the original thread is gone.
Not enough context to accurately judge the guy's behaviour.

[TemplarDante]

This should generally be expected. Why? Well Msft cash dollars line the pockets of Activision for "behind the scenes" dealing like support. At the end of the day, COD has downhilled into such drivel, its in a sad state in comparison to COD 4, which at the time was such a breath of fresh air. My advice to the PS3 guys on there, move on from COD.
You cant make them love you, so just let her go.
Soon, you'd realise she was just a slut, and theres far many more fish in the ocean.

[baodeus]

But what if people do like slut because they r more fun? And even if u don't, what make u so sure that u won't get another slut when u jump ship? There r many more slutty fish in the sea and far too few decent ones that internally wanted to be slut anyways.

[ShaunCameron]

LMAO

[TemplarDante]

Experience, my friend.
Now we learn to ask around if their a slut or not before splurging the cash on her.

[HSx9]

You can't talk about that here, it's N4G! 99% of the users can't relate!!

[SSKILLZ]

like i give a shit

[Mustang300C2012]

Amazing how contradicting this comment is. If you really didn't give a shit you wouldn't have wasted your time to make a comment.

[Gridloc]

Hard to develop your own game when your only talent is copying Infinity Wards blueprint, while sucking Microsoft's tit.

[Gridloc]

Most call it multi-tasking.. I call it sad..

[DestinyHeroDoomlord]

I wonder if almost everyone didn't try to be like cod would there still be so much hate?

[Donnywho]

Somebody had a bad day. Nothing can be gained from lecturing ants.

[BigStef71]

People need to stop wasting their time playing this shit cuz there are so many games with better online experiences than COD on ps3. Thats just my opinion on this matter

[Ken22]

I agree i popped in Resistance 1 over the weekend and had a blast playing with the people who still play it.

[SheenuTheLegend]

uncharted 3 deserves much more attention then this crap

[alousow]

its very simple stop buying the game thats what i did no more cod for since mw2, i have benn playing BC1,2 and now BF3

[BigStef71]

BF3 is fucking amazing!!!!! I like that it takes actual strategy and teamwork to be good at that game

[FAGOL]

BF3 is great but there's some really annoying bugs still in the game (for the ps3 at least). If they fix them then I can't of a reason why anyone would play MW3 anymore.

I'm not a fan of the close quarters maps but they cater to the "CoD players" who want fast paced gameplay.

[BelieveinGhosts]

I disagree with your statement because i own the PS3 version of BF3. I played it for months without any communication even though i had a head set. Its a great game but i got sick of little to no team work because yet again a Dev messed up the voice communication of the PS3 port.

[jdktech2010]

I like BF3 a lot but call me nostalgic or a console kiddie if you want, I still love the hell out of some BC2....and I play it on PC.

Just something about that game I love from time to time

[SheenuTheLegend]

u r right bf3 is awesome
much better n deserves the hype it got
n if u wanna try something different there is u3
they are having a bit of issues right now but i hope everything will be solved in 1.13 patch

[OldSnakePS3]

stop playing this shit fanchise already
-there are far better games to play

[Gamer-Z]

please no more COD

[ZBlacktt]

Playing MAG and BF3 still. So I'm good, no thanks anyway.

[BigStef71]

How is MAG?i heard it was pretty good and I was thinking about getting it. Does it still have a pretty active community?

[ZBlacktt]

Not going to lie here at all. I have MANY hours invested in all 3 games and MAG is the better overall of the 3. See MAG is a true team game. The skill tree ( perks ) is far better suited for fast action. It gives you the vehicles of BF ( driving ones ). Yet also gives you A LOT more player's in game. Which means the action is 100x more. In MAG you are constantly aiming shooting and reloading. It is that much action...very srs.

You can get the game for like $5 nowadays. Then find someone who has the DLC games and file share them to get them for free. I think one might still be free. There's two DLC games.

[leogets]

yes sir mag is very active. it has alot of fans that just cant get enough of the game. i on the other hand pick it up now and again and blast it for a few days then battlefield calls me back ;P mag is awesome. go get it. i wouldnt piss on cod if it wass the only game out there.

[Adolph Fitler]

MS paid Activision big money for favoritism, So of course they are showing the 360 favouritism. They can BS with there PR people telling us otherwise until there blue in the face......but fact is, they favour the 360 mainly due to the fact that MS pay them lotsa money for it.

PS3 & Sony are just afterthoughts, anybody who says different may just be mildly to medium level retarded. They get a ridiculously stupid 1 month advanced release of dlc for the COD games on 360.....if that doesn't sell & tell you the whole story, then take your medication, take your blinkers off for sleepy time so you can awake fresh for some GeOW3 playtime.

There are many alternatives to COD anyhow, I didn't bother buying COD:MW3, as I had already bought COD 3, COD:MW1 & 2, WAW & BO's, I never, ever bought 1 dlc pack as they were overpriced garbage assigned to hook the weaker fanboys of the series, thus setting a precedence for the industry to rape our asses off with dlc not worth the asking price.

As before me dudes have stated, MAG, BF1-3, Socom 4 & Confrontation, Homefront, etc, etc, are all viable alternatives to COD.

[miyamoto]

Agree Completely.

Its all in the contract between M$ & Activision.

I say ditch this mother suckers & wait for Respawn Entertainments new genuine "CoD" game and shoot that game to the top of the charts!

That will learn M$ & Activision where to stick it!

[THE_MACGREGOR]

You know the beauty of your lack of abstract thought is . Infinity Ward OG's West and Zamp. who made call of duty.. Gave Microsoft and exclusive to launch there console. So while you have an apparent distaste for Call of Duty. Im confident in the same that Respawns first title will be for Microsofts NGC.

[Wizziokid]

Well said, PS3 COD fans need to acknowledge that they are getting the crap end of the stick when it comes to COD, and it's going to keep happening because they continue to buy the same problems game after game.

I personally don't feel sorry for anyone who buys COD and complains, you know what you are buying, it's the same game year after near, new locations / same issues.

Buy the alternatives if you want a FPS title, you have options.

[miDnIghtEr20C_SfF]

Yep just like BF is. BF 4 coming out... just had 3, annual BF time.

they all do it.

[BelieveinGhosts]

You are right those games you mentioned are better alternatives to COD but the problem with this generation is that popularity sells games. Last gen on the PS2 and Xbox, the quality of games = sales. Which is why the following games MGS,SOCOM, GOW, GT,HALO,PES 4,5,6, HITMAN,DBZ, etc sold the most copies.

[thatdudesfrys]

This Treyarch guy sounds like a total douche. He thinks he's above the "whiners". He's basically doing the same thing right back to them.

Plus, COD sucks.

[ALLWRONG]

Basically he asks PS3 fanboys to stop whining and trolling for a change.

[Wizziokid]

Well mannered response from a dev to the community, some people say this is fair on his part but you don't understand, DEV'S get attacked, it happens all the time but they should know more than anyone the way to handle it, you don't loose your rag and start attacking the community, you have to keep a professional head. sure it might be hard but that's part of the job.

I'm just happy I won't be buying another COD game.

[seanpitt23]

BOPS2 looks shit i stopped buying cod since BOPS1 ps3 version was shocking unfinished so i said i will never buy cod again and i didnt people just need to stop buying these games.

[Emilio_Estevez]

I have no problem with his comments, at least he is being real and not using PR talk. Just says questions that include trolling and fanboyism won't be addressed, which is how it should be.

[Straightupbeastly]

Lol I almost forgot how bad black ops was on ps3 that was embarrassing considering it was the biggest game in the world at the time and released after mw2 which ran flawless on ps3

I bet black ops 2 will be more of the same. Bad frame rate, gun camos taking 2 seconds to load after spawning, laggy menus. Zombies was the worst, it gave you a headache the framerate and lag were so bad

[iamnsuperman]

The guy should have been more professional about his response

[mochachino]

People on the internet have no manners and don't know how to communicate with people using even the smallest amount of human decency.

If people treated others like how they would in real life, face to face - then online communication wouldn't be such a vile wasteland of racism, intolerance, belligerence and vituperation.

[greenpowerz]

Got a kick out of the comments in here. The majority of developers have favoritism towards one console or another. The hypocrisy comes from the popularity of this franchise. Only N4g type people complain about this, no other groups ever really bother, assuming they care in the first place.

Example

They attack COD because of supposed purchased favoritism for the 360, using BF3 a game that has devs that supposedly sold PS3 favoritism. It's more profitable to favor FPS on xbox unless your loyalty was purchased.

[Ken22]

Sometime's you have to be a b*tch to get your point across.Plus these they knew what was wrong with it and they still released it.So they deserve all the negativity towards them.

@Shutupandtakemymonkey

Yea that's true hell even my bro that is over seas already has it pre-ordered -___-.Since he come's home at the end of this year.

[shutUpAndTakeMyMoney]

what does it matter? Ps3 owners are gonna buy it anyway. Happens every year.

[Azazel]

Not me. MW3 was the last COD game for me. They arent getting anymore of my money.

[beerkeg]

Not me either, but the next COD will still outsell everything else on ps3 with or without our cash.

[ALLWRONG]

Good luck getting the other 7 million to follow you

[pixelsword]

Pshaw!

I've never bought it, not even the good ones from WWII; even those games were rentals at best.

[jagstatboy]

I noticed no one mentioned Killzone as an alternative.

[beerkeg]

Maybe there are better alternatives.

[jagstatboy]

I agree with you.

[Straightupbeastly]

If Socom 4 ever fixed it's headshot issue, I'd say it's the greatest online shooter this generation. It's a true complete shooter. Great maps that are both big and small, and classic maps that will blow ur mind with how they look, not kiddy cod looking maps. Great game modes unlike other games and all are available in Non respawn as well. Up to 32 players and it runs flawlessly. Both zipper games (mag, Socom 4) were really overlooked by ps3 gamers. Now zipper is gone. It's a shame

[Primalfear]

Just buy an XBOX. Problem solved. durrrr

[Roper316]

problem not solved beacause not everyone then wants to pay extra just to be able to play the game online. That is exactly the reason I don't split the Multiplat games evenly across the 2 consoles.

[BillyBob360]

You get what you pay for buddy. You dont want to pay for a better service / console that has much better support for all 3rd party games? Then enjoy playing buggy ass games on your playstation. If you want to continue playing games on PS3 that are clealy better on xbox then you dont get the right to complain about anything.

[Unlimax]

STOP CALL OF DUTY FOR THE LOVE OF GAMING !!!!

[sandman224]

Just get the version running on par with the 360 version. I really enjoy cod series. I understand the frustrations developers have developing for the ps3 but cod series made billions of dollars and I know that if you have the money then you shouldn't have a problem developing for the ps3. Its not like the developers are on a budget. If so then f_ck the CEO.

[Mkai28]

You know it was said, don't frustrate the guy that's making your food. The same thing applies here.

[DW74]

Haven't bought a CoD since 4. They can all kiss my ass.

[berndogskate]

black ops run like shit on the ps3 constant freezes etc, also it was no oil painting, therefore i will NOT be buying bo2.
or any other cod for that matter, what is it now anyhows cod nine or ten? enough is enough.

[MYSTERIO360]

I already knew Treyarch hated PS3 whats new, Treyarch have been disgraceful in the way they have handled the ps3 platform for many years. Fortunately for me COD isn't my preferred shooter anymore just feel sorry for all the PS3 COD fans.

[Primalfear]

All 3rd party games run better on xbox and have better support. Buy an xbox. This isnt rocket science people. QQ MOAR PS3 owners.

[Silly gameAr]

Did you think if you wrote the same comment twice it would make it true? Nah.

[BillyBob360]

Did you think that if u posted it would make it untrue? He might of posted the same thing twice but it doesnt change the fact that hes right. Either buy a 360 or dont complain about buggy shit on playstation.

[Tzuno]

Black Cops. Rumor, first day DLC "The missing Donuts"

[BelieveinGhosts]

I skipped BOPs 1 but i will be buying BOPs 2 which will be my last COD purchase unless Activision get their act together and improve

[tigertron]

Speak with your wallets people.

[capcock]

CoD is shit regardless what u play on.

[ChunkyLover53]

I think people are overreacting to the guys comments. Call Of Duty developers take more crap from "fans" than any other developers. They are constantly harassed on their forums and Twitter. I'd probably go off on someone if I was asked the same question for the millionth time too.

I admit Black Ops had issues on the PS3, most COD games have had framerate issues on PS3, but I don't think its some big conspiracy. The PS3 is well known for being more difficult to program for. These games have a short development cycle and its possible they are struggling with how to get everything running as smooth on the PS3 as it does on the Xbox 360.

Not everything negative that happens to Sony versions is because Microsoft paid for it to be that way, or because of some ridiculous conspiracy theory.

If your unhappy with something or a franchise, then don't buy it. I haven't bought a Madden football game since they bought the NFL license and locked out other football games. It does no good to complain like a baby if your not willing to actually do something about the issue.

[KontryBoy706]

Truth... the Treyarch games Call of Duty 3, World at War and Black Ops ALL ran like crap on the PS3 with the same jittering frame rate and weaker lighting mechanics. It's like the game stutters. I will not be buying another Treyarch PS3 game. I have been pretty much done with COD since Black ops anyways

[arbitor365]

to my fellow PS3 gamers, who cares? COD is total garbage on all platforms. play a good FPS game instead.

[pompombrum]

See this is a prime example of what happens when you create the most successful game around and each year the sheep line up for their yearly fix.. it gives dirty man-birth to this level of arrogance shown by that Treyarch guy.

Regardless of opinions, his attitude just proved people's point about Activision playing favorites. No wonder the posts were deleted, a very unprofessional attitude shown by a supposed spokesman.

[Straightupbeastly]

They're doing preorder incentives something cod never does. There is your proof the game is gonna suck.

[ajax17]

Any BioShock Infinite news? This is lame.

[fasny]

i liked call of duty when infinity ward was making the game now tryach should stop making the same game and learn from infinity ward

[stonecold3]

im glad i dont buy there games the engine is outdated and it the same game every year its milked i think they should put cod on hold and think of something eles im glad killzone is the best fps on console

[Teaber]

I kinda like this guy lol.

[glennco]

boo hoo

[cstyle]

Sony fanboys weren't crying when EA was showing favoritism with Battlefield 3 for PS3.

[Outside_ofthe_Box]

So?

360 fanboys aren't crying about Activision showing favoritism with Call of Duty for the 360.

You get my point?

[cstyle]

"360 fanboys aren't crying about Activision showing favoritism with Call of Duty for the 360."

Exactly, so stop all the crying. Blame sony for not stepping their game up.

[InsaneGam3r]

I dont know why pepole hate the "CoD".

Why i love call of duty? because it's part of my childhood I played the first one when i was 11 YO and from then it was my favorite FPS game, And yes i will buy this one and the next one.

[arbitor365]

it could be the be laggy, spawnkilling, camper infested, skilless, noob friendly gameplay. or the sterile, rehashed, boring, uninventive campaigns that constantly rip off other games.

[Soldierone]

Wait let me get this straight.....he doesn't comment on the PS3 area about updates as much because of trolls? Really?

Perhaps he can just understand the fact the whole "exclusive " deals with MS tick off PS3 and PC people, and thats why they are negative. Supposedly they need to go through training to talk on the forums, yet can't handle a few trolls? They cant reply to things in a professional manner and weed out the trolls from the actual comments better?

Look at the PS Blog. You could see two pages of "THIS SUCKS!!!!" comments, then the one good comment gets an official reply....Heck they will even reply to the "This sucks!!!" comments in a professional manner with no issues.

[wastedcells]

It's all about the all mighty dollar people. Xbox pays huge money to 3rd parties for their timed exclusives. Sony pays big buck to make exclusives. It's common knowledge. Anyone who doesn't know that is blind.

[Adolph Fitler]

Here's the best part: As someone already mentioned that we had forgot to mention, Killzone 2 & 3 are awesome alternatives to COD in every way, and I don't wanna here g@ylords moan about KZ2's (especially) & 3 (to lesser degree), heavy controls, as you complain you want a difference in your shooters, so Guerilla gives it to you with graphically the best shooter available, with a different but awesomely functional & responsive control scheme that emulates a more genuine feel when donning & firing your weapon than ALL other comers, it offers a different setting to COD & the myriad of wannabe's, it offers an awesome & different artstyle (which goes hand in hand with setting).

Then there is Starhwak (which is also awesomely good).
Mag
Socom:Confrontation
Socom 4 (I don't care if people tune out now, Socom & Mag series on PS3 are great games, even if not traditional).
Warhawk
Resistance 1-3
Ghost Recon
Max Payne 3
Unchartered 1-3
PS3 has plenty of alternatives to the COD series, & they are of as higher a standard & production quality. Even MAG that some people may write off for it's slightly behind graphics has qualities in other areas that equal & betters the "benchmark" series of gaming.

So, if your willing to learn & adapt to new things instead of wanting to play the same thing over & over, just with different boxart & maps & enviroments, then there are plenty of excellent titles that offer great single & online multiplayer experiences (hell, I even enjoyed the last MOH both off & online & can't wait for MOH: Warfighter).

People who don't buy a lot (& I mean a lot) of games like I do, NEED, yes capital f&^king NEED to start supporting the Okami's, Godhands, BG&E's, Pschonauts, of this gen. It's a crying shame that THQ are taking such huge damage for offering awesome games like RF:Guerilla (they should have gone back to fps for the sequel instead of the abortion they released), Darksiders, Saints Row 1-3 (3 is an awesomely fun alternative to GTA4), & many others both released & upcoming......Buy Darksiders 2 over another fps COD title that you already own multiple different coloured versions of.