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Battlefield 4: What's the problem?

Flicking through various message boards, forums and article reactions, there is an astonishing amount of people disappointed, upset, or even angry at the existence of Battlefield 4.

There appear to be three key problems with the idea of the next game being Battlefield 4 - but VideoGamer is struggling to understand the logic behind any of them.

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Wizziokid4322d ago

The main problem is, people don't want it to launch this gen, it's way to soon for another main series BF game, another Bad Company would be fine.

before people counter-argue saying we don't know when it will launch well that is true but why have a beta for BF4 next year on current gen systems if it's a next gen game? it's a tad pointless considering they will need to have another beta once the next gen systems launch to port it all over and make the improvements.

this seems like EA are just pushing DICE to make this to compete with COD and it's a shame because BF was always my preferred title.

Nitrowolf24322d ago

EA wants to make the last of their money before switching to next gen console. Truth be told, if it was a launch title I don't think it would sell as much as BF3. Reason is, next gen will have a small fanbase at the start like always. EA is looking to cash the last of it's chips.

To me it's a smart business move, but for as a consumer I am disappointed to see this happening. We all expected Bad Company 3 to be the next in the series and BF4 to be next gen. BF4 next gen would serve a whole lot better considering it would make better use with what's given, thus making it closer and if not on par with the PC launch version.

Wizziokid4322d ago

I agree with you on the fact that the consumer base will be smaller, it's probably the reason they are squeezing it out but as a fan of the series I'm not impressed with the move simply because they can't do anything else with Battlefield on current gen systems.

Thankfully I'll be getting a new Gaming PC at the end of the year so I'll be able to purchase it for PC but that's just me. If I wasn't getting this new PC I wouldn't be buying BF4 on console.

ginsunuva4321d ago

But what if... BF4 was PC exclusive? Somehow. Then I would praise EA and it would be the greatest Battlefield ever!

Aggesan4322d ago

Like you said, another Bad Company would be fine. In fact, that's what I'm really longing for.

SonyPS3604321d ago

So a different name and you're happy.

Makes total sense.

AIndoria4321d ago

@Sony360 Ever heard of spin-offs?

WeskerChildReborned4321d ago

Yea exactly, and people usually release betas when the game is almost done and i want them to take their time and make it amazing also next gen would be a great idea.

solar4321d ago

i dont want BF4 this quick because it seems EA is pushing another BF game the same way Activision pushes a new CoD game.

Sequels should push genres of games. CoD has done nothing new since CoD3 to CoD4. after 4 we have gotten reskinned rehashes of the same game.

UC1 was an ok game, UC2 was a great game. UC1 was the same game as UC2 except for how great ND pushed the story. HL1 took mindless FPS to story lined FPS. genres need to be pushed. i dont see BF4 pushing BF3 the same way as tho classics have done.

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Tonester9254322d ago

The problem is these ELITE BF PLAYERS thinking that EA owes them something. If there is too much things to fix that can't be patched it only makes since that you release a new game.

Maybe this one would be the perfect BF game that everyone is looking for. *Since BF2 was sooo perfect*

I don't mind a new BF3 game because I will eventually stop playing this once all the DLC gets old.

Seanen4322d ago

BF2 wasn't "sooo perfect" from the beginning. It took some time, patch after patch till a lot of players feel that it was Complete.

Had they given a "Commander" position (a different game mode perhaps, DICE?) and BattleRecorder, even as a post-release patch, I'm pretty much sure less of us would complain.

ChunkyLover534322d ago

The problem is that all the anti-COD people were praising the Battlefield series because it wasn't on the same launch schedule as COD.

Now that its on a two year cycle people lose some of the ammunition they had against COD. Had Battlefield 3 sold like Bad Company did, they probably wouldn't rushed out a sequel so fast, but EA is finding it difficult to turn away from 12-15 potential sales.

SonyPS3604321d ago

It's nothing to do with COD. Not everything revolves around that milked franchise.

ChunkyLover534321d ago

@Sony360

Battlefield has EVERYTHING to do with COD. Also, most games are released based on when COD isn't released.

I'd say Battlefield has had even more games as a franchise than COD.

AIndoria4321d ago

It still doesn't release every November.

LightofDarkness4322d ago

Well, it's somewhat unusual for a numbered entry in this series to come so soon, which has people worried about the impact it may have on quality. It may also suggest that this will not be a significant departure from 3, a game which many series veterans feel is a step backwards. All we can do now is wait and see, really, as there's simply not enough information to suggest anything about the game's quality or content.

sandman2244322d ago

The problem is that I don't want to have to buy a high end pc to enjoy the game. Ps3 and 360 struggle to run it. Why not wait till the next grn consoles. So I can fully enjoy what the game can really do.

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Report: Sexual Misconduct Investigation Conducted at EA, Suspects Named and What They Did Revealed

EA senior staff has been investigated for sexual misconduct involving female coworkers, and these said people have been named publicly.

isarai5d ago

Aye just call Phil, i mean he somehow made Bobby Kotick's scandal disappear and gave him a few million dollar high five on the way out.

Cacabunga4d ago

I wonder if it will be censored with some in game ads.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft did, Phil Spencer played a minor part. He instigated the buyout that led to Kotick escaping all his controversies while getting a golden handshake.

Someone on Twitter calculated that the people hired in Tango and Arkane Austin could get a decent salary for roughly 17 years for the money Kotick was paid.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

Yeah some thing tells me Kotics $ was already guaranteed before MS made the deal. As for the studios... Let's be honest here... none of those studios made system sellers.

XiNatsuDragnel5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

EA about to go down like Activision and then Phil saves the day saying.this is good for the industry and consolidation will help create competition. /s.

MrBaskerville2d ago

Then they shutdown Codemasters and studio behind Jedi Survivor.

Atleast they could hardly do much damage that EA hadn't allready done. EA has shut down most of their studios by now.

ravens525d ago

What's up with all these horny creeps. You gon be horny, fine. Just not at work take care of that shit before you go in. Rub one out if you have to. Don't be a creep at all. ESPECIALLY at work. But don't be one AT ALL.

Extermin8or3_4d ago

I mean part of the issue is that things transpired outside of work....

MrBaskerville2d ago

That's the thing he mentioned about not being a creep at all.

KwietStorm_BLM4d ago

You think deviants care where they are? Work sometimes makes it an even better situation for them because they can abuse their power.

mudakoshaka4d ago

Nerds think they are Gods when they are making video games.

NotoriousWhiz5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

"it seems that according to EA, given the events transpired outside of work between two adults, and the fact that once investigation has started that the alleged perpetrators didn’t do it again, the investigation is considered closed. [...] The victim still has to work with the people that harassed her."

Yep, EA is disgusting.

Extermin8or3_4d ago

I mean the fact stuff happened outside of work puts EA in quite a difficult position legally. These women don't seem to have reported the matter to the police which kinda ties EA's hands on what they can do. If they don't file reports of the crimes then yeah from EA's perspective it is stuff that happened outside of work. The only exception is the guy that apparently referenced things in the slack channel for work, spending on what he said proving it may be very hard and he may well be able to get away with plausible deniability. I don't like EA and I think these people need to be dismissed but without any legal action being taken, EA can't really do much without risk of being sued themselves for unfair dismissal etc.

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EA to Spend Billions Boosting Share Prices After Mass Layoffs

EA has announced it will engage in a shareholder-pleasing share buyback program just a couple of months after mass layoffs at the studio.

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Yi-Long8d ago

Well, anything to make those shareholders happy, I guess. They're all that matters in this industry nowadays.

badboyz098d ago (Edited 8d ago )

EA stocks haven't been profitable in over 5yrs. They better hope Take-two don't get the FIFA license lol.

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EA Hopes to Use Generative AI to Drive Monetization and Make Development 30% More Efficient

Today Electronic Arts CEO Andrew Wilson provided a look into his ideas for the use of generative AI in the company's development processes.

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thorstein71d ago

I wonder what the next buzz word they'll slap in front of AI to make it sound exciting next? "Generative" as if it's creating its own content. Lol.

Cacabunga70d ago

EA is already dying a painful death..

peppeaccardo70d ago

i have a better idea .. why the whole exec team doesn't get replaced by chat bots ?

just_looken71d ago

Though i agree the ai thing is already in other forms of media there have been ai translations/scripts/voice over and even full ai commercials aired on tv. Ubisoft has created a ai game creator story/vo/music except the building of the game

The new unreal engine has auto terrain creation tools

In the world of greed in which it is winning without any major blow back ai is our future.

everyone want's biden dead on the mic or a criminal instead of a woman and now we are getting ai everything because no one will stop watching/playing ai created media.

GamerRN70d ago

Maybe they should just focus on making good games?

Just a thought...

Kiryu199270d ago

Exactly EA are just pure evil. When they are beating Bank of America to be voted the worst company to work for that’s saying a lot

Good thing I don’t buy their games day one and wait for deep deep sale years after launch (the select few games I am actually interested in)

Gaming is making so much money yet the greed of these companies is never ending

CEO’s and people on board making millions yet cutting jobs to those who are actually making the products

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Knightofelemia71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

EA is still a shady shitty company even with or without the help of Skynet. All they will use AI for is new ways to milk loot boxes and come up with the same sports title with a different year on the label. They are one company I truly do hate with a passion. They single handedly ruined some great franchise with their death touch. ME, Dead Space, Alice Returns, Dante's Inferno.

Stuart575671d ago

EA layoffs followed by 'Generative AI to Drive Monetization'

I knew it. Wonder what AI salary looks like? Nothing.

ChasterMies71d ago

I having a feeling that most of the layoffs in the industry are based on the idea that AI will do the same job for less.

DarXyde70d ago

Very likely, yes.

Made worse by the fact that the execs aren't changing their compensations.

My deepest fear at this point is that we are now in the capitalism endgame.

At this point, we really should just burn AI to the ground. Executives cannot be trusted to do the right thing.
How are those people expected to support families if everything gets automated?

Barlos71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

And take away creativity, and people's jobs as we've been seeing. Got it.

No thanks. I want my games created by people, not AI.

CobraKai71d ago

Exactly. If or when games start becoming more AI than people, im done with gaming. AI and companies like EA can suck donkey d***k.

just_looken71d ago

Though i agree remember this is no ps3/360 era were we got up to 3 games in one generation from on developer like gears/halo/bioware/sony/ms

The people today are pro esg/sweet baby for the most part AAA gaming is imploding right now.

We should be stepping back re evaluate everything as a whole this year xmen 97 written/directed by a woman that is nuts and its also being made by a group reshaping bodies to be less sexual like wtf. A dam famous cartoon from the 90's is being rebuilt with millions spent to be worse in everyway.

Gaming/movies/tv shows made today are worse than what we had 7years ago ai won't change this but that ai is also being made by these groups so either way we are screwed.
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Eonjay70d ago

Don't be of afraid of women. Sexy characters in games and movies still exist. Got my Stellar Blade on preorder!!! Everything all the time doesn't need to be sexual...that's stupid, childish and dull.

Chocoburger71d ago (Edited 71d ago )

EA doesn't want to lose their title of worst gaming company ever, always trying their best to remain the champs!
What's sad is that they have so much potential to be a decent publisher.

SSX Tricky / SSX 3
Def Jam Vendetta / Fight for New York
NBA Street
NFL Steet
Mirror's Edge
Bad Company
Burnout 3 / 4 / 5

Remember when EA used to be awesome? It's all over with now. Unpolished, if not out-right broken games these days. Endless monetization and gambling in their sports games, and let's not forget wasting hours of your life trying to unlock characters or equipment using "surprise boxes!"

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