First screenshots from Windows Vienna (Vista's successor)

Playfuls.com writes: "Don't ask us how we've obtained them, we'll just tell you that they're from a Chinese source. We warn you that these are not fake images, they actually come from Microsoft's next operating system, code-named Vienna (and previously known as Blackcomb"

[rbanke]

"We warn you that these are not fake images"

Why do we need to be warned?

[likeaboss302]

All you have to do is hack the registry and change some values in Vista to make screen shots like this. I'm not buying them one bit.

[goretooth]

looks too much like windows vista to me, i dont see them being real

[jacobdevos]

i hope this guy didn't pull too many 'chinese strings' to get a hold of vista screenshots

[BigBoy2000]

that means we're all in for another glitch filled OS to deal with! YAY! I can't wait to not use it! I'll stick with XP for the time being; they've seemed to work out most the glitches on that one.

All this means is microsoft wants to sucker more people into forking over more cash... let's face it, microsoft thinks only of its wallet and not its customers.

[Kleptic]

well XP was much more well recieved than Vista...mostly because XP was an actual widely used version of windows that didn't have major problems...

remember...going to XP was coming from something like ME, which was the more popular home PC version used at the time...Windows 2000 was near flawless for many as a business app...but lacked some of the media capabilities that MS felt the home user wanted more...XP combined the good stuff of 2000 with the slim amount of good stuff from ME...and actually fell into a very decent OS for nearly everything...

with all that said though...I am a little confused as to why so many dislike Vista...I understand its a hog, and is pretty bad for gaming right now (near a full gig of OS footprint for gaming?...seriously?)...but for everything else it works just as well or better than XP in my experience...at least in my case; all the program compatability problems are fixed...and were fixed within a month of its release...

i got vista for free through work...and am running it on a Vaio c140g laptop as my work computer...its a pretty humble PC, with just 1 gig of ram, a GMA 950 unified graphics chip (sharing 224megs of the system ram), and a Core 2 duo 1.66ghz...it runs aero with no problems, and everything else for that matter...after the first month, its been completely bug free...and I much prefer the better oranizational stuff for media (better start menu, better unified file library based on type...better serches, etc...)...that and the OS wide DLNA support is much better than being stuck with only wmp for streaming and sharing on a network...

again though...this laptop won't even play doom 3 at a decent rate...that GMA 950 is something any PC gamer wouldn't touch with someone else's dic, er...hands...

[jaja1434]

It's not so much Vista that people don't like as it's MS. Overall Vista works just fine for well everything. It plays all of my older games, except Sacrifice which required some tweaking on my part. Networking is well easy to say the least. Easy to the point where I didn't have to do anything. Though the fact that it burrowed through my routers firewall and password protection without a hitch is a bit worrisome...

Overall Vista is a fine OS that people just love to complain about because it is made my MS.

All that said, I still prefer Ubuntu and really only use Vista for the games that refuse to work with Linux and web surfing. For some reason Ubuntu does not like to render some pages correctly. *shrug*

[Snoozer282]

They look just like Vista...

[heyheyhey]

what the??? this IS vista, why is bullsh!t getting approved?..... actually don't answer that

[mighty_douche]

See now this is why i f**king hate M$, nothing to do with the 360, purely the way they treat customers!

Promise Vista to be the next big thing, release it, hardly support it, dump it and sell you something else...

Apple need to get into the gaming sector, the PC im typing on now is my last Windows system, period!

[heyheyhey]

woah scary

i was just about to say the exact same thing word for word- me and you are on the same brainwave here

[LJWooly]

Here's what Sarick said, regarding 360 hardware reliability:

"MS's only interest is to monopolise as many industries as possible so they can do this kind of sh1t without customers having power to fight back."

Who could put it any better than that?

And douche, you should upgrade to Ubuntu Linux, I would recommend it to anyone (who knows about computers).

[mighty_douche]

while Ubuntu is attractive (free, good level of support etc) im a PC gamer first so i need the developer support only currently avaliable on Windows.
Long story short, M$ have me (and millions of others) by the balls on the OS front and now with them pushing "games for windows" (which isnt even free for full features) what hope do we have? Only Apple have the cash/following/support to pull developers away from Windows or at least get them to except the format.

Plus, Apples OS's dont murder your RAM like vista.

[Kleptic]

but dude every year Apple tries to get back into gaming...with John Carmack himself pushing the keynote...Apple will never penetrate that market again until the stop using proprietary hardware in their machines...

PC gaming exists because it allow users to upgrade older equipment for newer games...Windows is basically the OS of choice only because of it stranglehold on the market...If game devs switched to Apple only or something, it will affectively turn PC gaming into just another console platform...

seriously though...learn to use Linux, or at least try...if you hate windows that much...I would never recommend supporting Apple for anything...Apple computers are literally the Xbox 360 of home computers, except on an alleviated scale...no choice...few options...and proprietary hardware that makes everyone spend more money for the same technology...

[Bonsai1214]

sorry kleptic, i had to laugh at your comments. the only somewhat proprietary hardware is the ram. and thats because macs are sort of finicky when it comes to certain brands. other than that and processors, you're free to upgrade at will. only problem is, ATI and Nvidia don't have drivers working with their graphics cards on macs. and that's not apple's fault either.

if any comparison is to be made, macs are like the ps3 of the computer world. higher quality hardware, higher powered hardware, powerful media machine etc.

[Yi-Long]

Why arent they just sticking with Vista for 4-5 more years orso, updating it, fixing it, etc!?

I really dont want a new OS every 2-3 years, especially not when Microsoft makes them crappy and is slow with the updates...

Maybe I'll just go with Ubuntu or some other OS from now on.
Windows needs some strong competition, so things will improve for the customers.

[sak500]

I have real picture of next windows, this guy is probably making up stuff but this one is real deal.

[Yi-Long]

...looks like I'll have to buy a new, high-spec pc to run that! Incredible design! Awesome!

[shine1396]

I wouldn't have clicked on the link sak500, if Yi-Long hadn't said anything...Doh..LOL. owned.

[LJWooly]

Are they sure this isn't just Vista Service Pack 1? Because this looks exactly like Vista.

[dilibau]

those screens DO LOOK SIMILAR TO VISTA since Windows 7 (or Vienna) is currently in PRE-PRODUCTION and they're using the same friggin kernel!!!!! Do you think that XP was any different from Windows 2000 when XP came out in 2001? You can't just build an OS of that complexity simply from scratch. It took Microsoft more than 6 years to come up with Vista and they didn't just build those 50+ million lines of code out of nothing.... They used the Windows Server 2003 kernel for Vista and it still cost them more than $10 billion to come up with that...What, do you think Apple or the open source community release any new OS out of the blue? THEY USE THE SAME KERNEL AS THE PRECEDING OS (think of the Mac OSX Leopard which has 90% code from Tiger)- and this is exactly what Microsoft does now with Windows 7...It's just how things work in the business and hey, it's still an early build of the OS, OK?

[mighty_douche]

great comment, really interesting! not sure why you we're so aggressive though. The information was enough.

[dilibau]

I'm certainly NOT trying to be aggressive, but when I see people who don't know these things and STILL comment as if they were experts, saying loud that it's "FAKE, FAKE, FAKE", it kinda gets frustring for me. I mean I'm not against a negative comment for a news, on the contrary, disputes and discussions is what make a good story reach the front page on any news site, but hey, if other people don't know technical things and STILL comment without any proof or knowledge, how do you expect good content to be promoted? Look at how many sh!tty RUMOR stories reach on N4G's main page... And why do they reach the main page? Simply because there are "experts" all the time willing to contradict everything even if they don't have a single clue about what they're talking about... I guess it's in our nature to destroy things that are good and promote things that are bad...

[Sangheili85]

I see all these people say "Fake, It's VISTA Noob!" but don't bother to read. He even says it looks a lot like vista but isn't. Their not going to designed a whole new look for it this early and it's smarter to use the vista look for the same reason car companies cover up concept cars. So people don't spy and see them.

[LJWooly]

I was only asking a question, for christ's sake...

[whoelse]

So fake. Look at the Windows 7 writing and how it overlapps partly of the edge.

[Bladestar]

Our Bill, who art at MicroSoft,
Hallowed be thy Name!
Thy Software Come, thy Will be done,
On AMD, as it is on Intel.
And give us this day, our daily patch,
And forgive us our trespasses,
As we forgive those who use Linux against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from iLemmings and Lindorks.
For Thine is the Operating system, the Desktop Suite,
And the Browser,
For Ever and Ever.
Amen.

[znu]

I mean seriously, i get what u said about the kernal being the same, and that they cant just start from scratch but dude, u can theme an xp to look 100 % like vista, change the icons and everything, i did, seriously its easy, we have no concrete proof unless microsoft announces it. I made my xp look like vista(it has good visual effects) and it was a little too slow so had to get rid of it but it can be done, u can probably even skin vista by now, changing icons and screens isn't that hard.

btw, i dont know why ppl hate vista, it may not be that good, but if u run a windows 98 on a computer built for xp, u gonna c a giant speed increase, same with vista, give it a good 4 years and it'll be as good as xp but until then, im not gonna upgrade

[dilibau]

at the screenshot listed here http://my.playfuls.com/scre... you can see it's the control panel. YOU CAN'T MAKE XP or VISTA SHOW YOU WINDOWS 7 in control panel, no matter what software you use, simply because the OS version is inscribed in the kernel (the fundamental lines of code of ANY OS)

And if you still don't trust what it says there, just take a look at this one, where it says Windows 7 Ultimate:

http://my.playfuls.com/scre...

That CAN'T be faked no mater what software you use...

[Valik21]

now i'm stick with Xp Media Center that is the best Windows in circulation in my opinion, and after that, NO OTHER WINDOWS SYSTEM until it don't become what the Xp is now. Now i have also Linux Ubuntu 7.10 that is wonderful as a system, it has almost everything you need for a computer. the only things that it lack for me are the games support (although some of them runs well through emulator) and some aplications like photoshop etc. i try to use windows now only for these things, all the rest is linux, because you have a solid systems, that don's crashes on you, that don't bring you errors, that is safe and without viruses. Also the internet is running faster on Linux, my advice to all of you, is to try Linux Ubuntu in partition with Xp, this is the best combination. Vista can go to hell.

[jaja1434]

How would Vista damage your system?
Also you should know that there isn't any Windows emulator, though VMware does come close enough that I suppose I should let you slide, if that is indeed what you use. :)

Now if your using the ever popular WINE, then well no it's not an emulator!

[GITPWNED]

lmao. nice leaf/

[Kwertie]

Anyone who even considers that these might be real for a second is a retard. First, why would a "Chinese source" have a "leak" of an operating system being developed in America?

The other thing is look how complete and polished it looks. Do you remember the Vista screenshots when it was known as longhorn? They were barren. Barely anything was coded yet apart from the basics. In the about tabs they have a link to read the EULA. The EULA will be one of the last things they add. Do you think they care about an EULA for an operating system that isn't going to have any EU's for a year or two? Also it would not be called Windows 7. Most, if not all Windows OSes have had a codename during development. It is already known as blackcomb, and supposedly will be publicly released as Vienna, so why would they call it Windows 7 also, when they haven't used versions since the early 90's?

As people have already commented, it pretty much looks like a copy paste of Vista, and it is. Microsoft are likely to give their next OS a complete UI overhaul for the next version, as is becoming the trend. Look at XP and Vista, the same huge difference will be apparent in Vista vs Vienna, unless they plan to release this next year.

It will probably fool the Chinese, as I suspect not many are using computers, or if they are that they have old machines running Windows 98 or XP and so don't have any experience of what Vista is like, so they wouldn't know if the screenshot was Vista or whatever.

I'll never understand why people take the time to make such crappy fakes. Also I VERY much doubt the next Windows will run on 1GB RAM. Vista already takes 800MB off the bat for me when I tried the beta.

It looks like they still haven't fixed that multi core freezing. On my A64 4800x2, one core always used to get maxed out, doing nothing. There would be no process I could cancel. My sister has a Core 2 laptop, and the same thing happens to her.

[dilibau]

While I sustain the exact opposite point of view from yours, I would never dare to call someone a "retard" just for not agreeing with me.

"First, why would a "Chinese source" have a "leak" of an operating system being developed in America?" did you even read what the other article says about Windows 7? THEY SENT THE OS TO ASIAN HARDWARE MANUFACTURERS FOR TESTING. There's your answer, satisfied?

I will comment only on this one, because the comments prior to this simply don't deserve attention:" Most, if not all Windows OSes have had a codename during development. It is already known as blackcomb, and supposedly will be publicly released as Vienna, so why would they call it Windows 7 also, when they haven't used versions since the early 90's?" You should check your facts before posting. "Blackcomb" as a code-name has been dropped for a long time ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

"As people have already commented, it pretty much looks like a copy paste of Vista, and it is. " because you say so? Read the comment I posted earlier and you'll find your answer on this one too. It's an early build of the OS and it's normal to have the same looks as Vista. For now.

"It will probably fool the Chinese, as I suspect not many are using computers, or if they are that they have old machines running Windows 98 or XP and so don't have any experience of what Vista is like, so they wouldn't know if the screenshot was Vista or whatever." for that comment I would simply throw you out of this site, just to put you out of your misery. Have you ever vistited China yourself? Do you know that Microsoft has the second most important R&D (research and development for you...) department in Shanghai, after the one in Redmond?

All in all, your post is simply insulting not only for those who disagree with you but for everyone with a bit of unbiased reason.

[felidae]

wow. looks a little bit like Mac OSX .. but without style.

lol.

[redninja]

Careful. SiteAdvisor says this website is a distributor of spyware.

[andron]

I couldn't care less about Vistas successor either way. I have gone Linux and I am never going back....

[Lilbambit]

who the hell fell for this poor attempt?

[HondaSIRowner]

MS............crap!

[winlonghorn]

Oh come on! I have a task for you! Go write a whole operating system that is adopted by millions of customers! Then, come back and tell me that it is easy to please everyone!!! Microsoft works their ass off to try to do the right thing and all you can do is sit here and nit pick them to death! I am a software developer myself. I can tell you right now that you can't just go out, write code, and throw it to the client without extensive research, testing, and documentation. Before you go around criticizing Microsoft, put yourself in their shoes! People always picking apart what they do, the EU is always after them, etc.. You can't tell me for one damn minute that every complaint is legitimate!!

[jaja1434]

Don't you know that creating the "Hello World" program automatically makes you in except in OS design?

[JosefTor]

I don't know if anyone of you have tested alpha and beta builds of new operating systems. I have frequently tested both and I can tell you that even in the early beta stage you will hardly see a difference.

[risk]

microsoft uses the previous OS's source code to build the next operating system. in the begining XP looked just like 2000, and then was updated with the new theme. Vista codenamed longhorn looked like black XP when it started, and then was changed into "aero". im not surprised they are using teh UI of vista to build windows 7, but i cant help but thing how stupid they are for this. they are going to have to solve all the problems of vista and xp in order to get it to work and its like putting more and more tape to stop bricks from falling apart.

[OdinMW]

I really dont care , seeing screen shots of a new os says nothing . Everyone was exited about vista but when they tried it most said it sucked and went back to xp rolf . so just chill and let them try to bild up the hype.

and dilibau CHILL THE F**K OUT you yell like a noob

ps

dilibau they are fake (rolf)

[jeenyus]

"Don't ask us how we've obtained them, we had to give an arm and a leg we'll just tell you that they're from a Chinese source."

Yeah right.
http://www.thinknext.net/ar...

LOLVISTA.

[ICEJACKEL]

First pic is Vienna service pack 1

Second pic is Vienna service pack 2

[Foliage]

I don't feel like upgrading back to XP again. I'll skip it.