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Microsoft Xbox Is Winning The Living Room War. Here's Why

Forbes: "Rather than pay $199 just for the unit, users can now get an Xbox for $99—as long as they also take a two-year contract to Xbox Live Gold.

This new low price looks even better when you consider you don’t need to buy a new TV, which is what Samsung and, soon, Apple want you to do. “If you want to start a phenomenon,” says Ballmer, “it doesn’t start with thousand-dollar-plus devices that sell at unreasonably low volume and need major room redesigns.”

stephmhishot4327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

"This spring, for the first time, subscribers to Xbox’s Live online service in the U.S. spent more time consuming video and music than multiplayer games."

MS: Mission Accomplished

Hey, remember when Sony was criticized for "just using the PS3 as a trojan horse for Blu-Ray" and people liked to say "lol, people don't even play games on PS3, its just a cheap Blu-Ray player for all the people I know haha"? How times change.

Fortunately, things do change quickly as we saw with the original Xbox/PS2 to the 360/PS3. If Sony manages to botch the PS4 launch like they did the PS3 one, and let MS beat them to market by over a year, then they will have deserved their fate. But if both companies release the console within the same time frame, with the same price, and similar specs, it will be very interesting.

Megaton4327d ago

Yeah, used to be Sony getting crapped on for just "playing movies" or trying to be a jack of all trades with entertainment services. Now Microsoft execs are bragging about such former insults.

shoddy4327d ago

For xbox you have to pay for live just to pay for those contents again.

PopRocks3594326d ago

@shoddy

Not to mention Sony had those services before Microsoft ever did. So what's there to gloat about? Hell, even Nintendo's Wii/3DS do Netflix and Hulu for free.

smashcrashbash4325d ago

That is how the people that kiss Microsoft's @$$ talk. They pretend that Microsoft was ahead of everyone else in everything and was never chasing after or was catching up with anyone. Just about every product Microsoft has made was and is is usually overshadowed or surpassed by something else.Even now they are still chasing after the Wii and Nintendo has already has a new console coming out.Microsoft is somehow always the greatest and yet hardly ever dominates in anything

SockeyBoy4327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

But can't you stream movies, stream music, and download games on both the xbox 360 and the PS3?

Edit: I don't like MS bragging about how Live users spent more time consuming video and music than playing games. Its annoying because we need more games MS, I'm f***ing serious MS, get back in the game.

BigShotSmoov0074327d ago

I doubt they will do that. I think I read somewhere that Jack Tretten said they're never first to come out and they're never the cheapest so obvisiously they are not changing their stragety. They'll wait and see what microsoft does and come out after them again, maybe not a whole year wait but they're not in any rush to come out with the ps4, thats for sure.

TBM4327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

i traded in my 360 2 weeks ago for lack of use. MS isnt winning my living room with what their doing.

im not paying them to use my own damn internet when im already paying my cable subscriber.

also MS i dont care about USELESS apps that i could use for free everywhere else, i just want a variety of good exclusives in different genres that defines your system. halo, forza, and fable retreading just doesnt do it for me. man i miss the old big brick xbox i got more use out of it than my 360.

just like to also say only my fellow americans would allow themselves to be screwed out of more money for a videogame system then just paying for it outright.
like someone said in another article we are the reason why places like rent a center still exist.

Trebius514327d ago

i guess the "PS3 owners dont play games they play movies" argument is no longer ammo for the die hard 360 owners who live and die for this imaginary console war.

360 has no games right now worth playing unless you really like kinect, they dont care about their gamer crowd, they just want the wii crowd.

Still not sure why 360 owners are so quick to defend M$ and all considering M$ doesnt care about them. You can cry for games all you want, theyll keep shutting down studios and releasing kinect shovelware.

KMCROC544327d ago

I don't need them to care about me, for me to buy their product. i buy their product cause i like what they offer & are reliable + it preference.

Redgehammer4327d ago

So many of you have an "either, or" perspective on the 360' s role in the living room, and it befuddles me. I love that I can game for 14 hours, and then seemlessly transition to a multitude of entertainment choices. The 360 is a very capable game console, and a very capable media hub,; which I see as an awesome combination.

Anon19744327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

Now that's the Microsoft cheerleading I'm used to from Forbes. I just commented on the other Forbes article, "6 reasons to buy a PS3 over the 360" that that's not the Forbes we're used to. Forbes has done nothing but mislead and bash Sony this entire gen for some reason.

They spent countless articles moaning about "slow" PS3 sales, they bitched about Sony selling the PS3 at a loss, they predicted that the PS3 slim and price cut was "too late" and it wouldn't sell. On and on it went, completely oblivious of little things like facts and sales figures.

Now they're at it again. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the 360, but Forbes clearly has their blinders on in this article, ignoring everything that's going on outside of the US while almost completely dismissing the competition which has handily outsold the 360 ever since the 360 had competition. Not to mention the waning game selection. Also, no mention that all these extra, living room features cost you compared to the competition and the majority of them aren't even available outside of the US. And the 360 clearly comes up short when you start comparing multimedia features. Where's that in your article, Forbes?

"After only a decade, Microsoft, a software company, has built a stronger hardware product than anyone else has in the space."

I almost threw up a little in my mouth. Get a room!

miyamoto4326d ago (Edited 4326d ago )

This is my boy drakride66, keeping it REAl!

Billions of dollars on Media Buy Out can not hide the truth forever.

dcbronco4326d ago (Edited 4326d ago )

But Sony was pushing the PS3 as a Blu-ray player. MS adds the other features as an additional service. It's not their fault people like them so much. But it is to their benefit.

Dark Forbes is a business magazine. All of the "anti-Sony" articles you named are geared toward giving investors knowledge about a potential investment. Slow PS3 and Vita sales hurt dividends. So does selling the console at a loss for so long. MS is making a healthy profit from the 360. That's what investors like to hear. That allows a company to pay large dividends. And that makes them money. So they can buy a new ascot.

@Redgehammer

Apparently the internet knows you better than you know yourself. You should check back tomorrow to see what you're having for lunch.

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solidworm4327d ago

World Wide weekly sales say NO...............

Kurt Russell4327d ago

You're confusing them with Charlie Sheen.

AtomicGerbil4327d ago

I'll hazard a guess that their next announced service will be called Tiger Blood.

floppy4327d ago

"Ballmer is working to persuade the big pay-TV players—Comcast and Verizon are already Xbox partners—to allow their customers the choice of an Xbox over a cable set-top."

LOL, this will never fly unless MS is willing to pay the difference in lost revenue.

Non_sequitur4327d ago

Yeah, that's $10 a month for an HD box and $15 a month for an HD box with dvr that the cable companies will have to be willing to lose.

Rock_On_PS44327d ago

Article is based on American market and Americans usually do not even know there is another way besides the good old US of A.
Europe and Asia and other parts of the world are seen by the average American as a bad evil Communist regime.

vikingland14327d ago (Edited 4327d ago )

I don't , I must be an above average American then.

wenaldy4327d ago

It's called well educated person.

Redgehammer4327d ago

You either know some really stupid Americans, or are you just spewing uninformed propoganda to attempt to validate your point. It is folly to apply a word like "most" when dealing with a population 313 million+.

Hicken4325d ago

They know about us what they see on the news. And they believe it just like they say we believe everything we see on TV.

But WE'RE the ignorant ones...

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How can any Xbox studio trust Microsoft now?

For Xbox’s hugely expanded gaming division, anything that isn’t Call of Duty is now a failure, and that’s a problem

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lelo2play17h ago

Honestly, If I worked presently for Microsoft's gaming division, I would update my CV and look for work elsewhere...

Simon_the_sorcerer17h ago

I would do the same, because MS will most likely pull-off more stunts like this in the near future...

Chocoburger7h ago

"Now"?

How about "ever"?

They closed so many of their dev teams during the second half of the Xbox 360 era. Have we forgotten history so quickly?

Dummy fake journalists acting so surprised over these recent closures, when this is something that's been going on for well over a decade now with MS.

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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just_looken13h ago

Sense it seems very few remember that human's were around before 2020 the next studio to close will be bethesda based no doubt on the history of.

Fallout 76
Elder scrolls online
elder scrolls blades mobile
fallout mobile
The vr versions of old games

Then you got starfield pissing out cash nothing to cover it.

I doubt tod's team or any sub team is making m$ cash they are no doubt on the chopping block for job cuts

If you can remember before 2020 even fallout 76 was made with over 4 studios.

purple10148m ago(Edited 45m ago)

pretty sure starfield coming to playstation 2024, nx gamer deep diving on the creation engine update in a recent blog, he seems to think, there is a lot of stuff developed to use on starfield for its Playstation release,

who will buy it though, ?? I think M$ has lost all good will now, after the Activision debacle, and now all these studios closing, people dont want to support them even if the game is half decent

Abear214m ago

Bethesda is the only studio to release anything noteworthy on Xbox. Take Bethesda out and they have nothing this Gen. Hifi Rush and Starfield are probably their two biggest hits.

-Foxtrot15h ago

"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno14h ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

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Profchaos13h ago

Leaders can't run them hire more management create new roles don't shutter entire studios cause you can't figure out how to run them.

Unless the reality is this whole consolidation thing was really an excuse for IP harvesting

anast2h ago

He's lying. They are doing it for the shareholders.

Eonjay14h ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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NotoriousWhiz13h ago

And out of the ashes something even better than Xbox will be born.

Eonjay13h ago

Honestly as long as is not a situation where the industry has to contract in order focus wealth on a few people who are already trillionaires..

Barlos8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

It's already here and it was born before Xbox was even a thing. It's called PlayStation.

Tacoboto12h ago

I think 2022 killed the Series X.

2021 was a good year for Xbox though and maybe the best in a long long time, hardware and software and as a publisher. Halo Infinite launched to popularity, Forza Horizon 5 blew everyone away, Psychonauts 2 was so well received, Flight Simulator on console, Deathloop even on PS5 & PC.

But they followed that up with next to nothing. Then 2023 with Redfall, a disappointing Forza, Starfield, and 2024 leads with closures and layoffs. And some tweets reminding us Hellblade is days away.

The only disappointment with the PS5 is not enough Sony games. Xbox followed up no games with disappointing ones.

Scissorman14h ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff218314h ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

porkChop2h ago

"the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation"

But the same thing *has* been happening at PS. They've closed, what, 3 or 4 studios so far this gen? Laid off plenty of staff, restructured studios, etc.

BehindTheRows1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

PlayStation isn’t struggling. Xbox is. That’s the difference.

Sony also didn’t buy out multiple publishers with LOTS of studios and leave them in a state of uncertainty.

So, he’s absolutely right that Sony not following Game Pass in its entirety was smart as this very thing could have happened. Name a team, like Tango, who wasn’t struggling (like Tango) that Sony closed. Every closure was because of a studio who wasn’t pulling their weight.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast1d 2h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech521h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom23h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff218323h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus2323h ago(Edited 23h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-19h ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

Elda18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

To me...Avowed graphics look cheap, the game looks generic as well as boring.

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anast1d 2h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast22h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim22h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

anast17h ago

I find it interesting that people have to resort to praising how they were randomly born in a certain location to say they're not weird. But, I'm not sure this kind of stupidity can be generalized over an entire group of people, at least, I'm being optimistic here.

Eonjay1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman1d ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto23h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA23h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda23h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz14922h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT21h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Skuletor16h ago

Wasn't it no new existing IP entries? That would still leave room for new IPs, maybe we'll see one or more of those this year.

Sonic188121h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead1d 1h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson1d ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff218323h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus2322h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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