Is The PlayStation Move a Success or a Failure?

PlayStation Euphoria writes: "PlayStation Move, as many of you may know, is Sony’s entry into the massive world of motion control gaming. Having been released in North America on September 17th 2010, the PlayStation Move continues to be a part of PlayStation community. PlayStation Move has sold 8 million units worldwide as of April 2011 with games supporting the device such as Killzone 3, Tumble, Resistance 3, Sports Champions and SOCOM 4. The Move had a great library of games to sell onto and started out pretty well with great sales, support, and critical response. However as time has gone by so has an excitement about anything “Move” related. Over a year since launch, how has the Move done? Has this been a successful venture by PlayStation? Or does the saying “Half as Long, Twice as Bright” sum up the history of the Move?"

[NYC_Gamer]

PSMove/Kinect are both failures in my opinion since there is not much quality software available

[syanara]

I agree, there is no real AAA Exclusive that makes me want to dust off my old move controllers

[blitz0623]

Of course in gamers' perspective, both are huge failures - which is expected. But sales wise Kinect obviously is a huge success.

Move didn't sell as well, but Sony didn't really back it up like Microsoft did with Kinect. To the delight of gamers, Sony still focused on core games. Can't say the same with MS.

[saladthieves]

Agreed

Sony simply stated that the Move would be a peripheral to include to their list of gaming devices, one tailored towards motion gaming. Microsoft on the other hand backed Kinect like it was the holy grail of gaming, as if you HAD to buy one. In my opinion, they focused it too much on it after seeing the kind of success Ninty had with the Wii.

In all honesty, both motion gaming devices really lack stellar games. I still haven't seen something that would give me a damn good compelling reason to buy either one.

[MaxXAttaxX]

* The Move is more useful, but didn't succeed AS much as the other in sales.
* Kinect succeeded more sales-wise, but flopped incredibly hard in games quality.

So.... neither.

[gokuss122002]

Although I wish there were more games that were exclusive to the move... particularly games that require 2 move controllers, I ultimately had to click the disagree button. The reason being is that there are many AAA titles that you can use as an excuse to "dust off [your] old move controllers". Unless you don't consider Killzone 3 AAA. Fair enough; how about Infamous 2? No? what about Little big planet 2? No? ... Resistance 3? ... Heavy Rain?... If you don't consider (any of) these games AAA, then I would love to know what you do consider AAA.

*Anticipates rebuttal but decides to address at the respective time*

With that being said, I hope Sony starts putting more (graphical) production value into the move games such as Sports champions, Sorcery, and Medieval moves...

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Agree with Goku.

Move has been really successful as far as execution goes. Lots of third party and first party support. Apart from games like Killzone Socom and LBP, move is getting Bioshock, Okami hd, Epic Mickey 2 and FREAKING COUNTER STRIKE. Move has been successful.

[darthv72]

While the core games that support move are good. It is a secondary idea at support instead of a primary. Meaning that you may get more out of the games but it is not required to play.

We could argue and say the wii is the same way however the primary control for the wii IS the wiimote. So basically every game supports the wiimote in some way or another. It isnt an afterthought on the part of the devs.

Sony obviously made a better wand than nintendo but the support in the way of real dedicated "required to play" games are very lacking. Even Kinect has a slew of required to play games. the quality of the games may be subjective but they are available none the less.

I think sony hasnt enforced move support mainly because of their traditionalist view on gaming. Working hard to ensure that those who game with a ds3 are getting the best control for the game.

then again, move is like any other add-on. It is only as good as the games made for it. By that i mean dedicated games because there is no question that the games that support it are already good games.

It really needed its own stand out hit and I thought sorcery was going to be it. I like the idea of the game but have to admit that myself had difficulty getting the move to respond to the commands that the game instructed me to do.

[ApolloAdams]

"quality" is a subjective word.

Kinect sold too much to be considered a failure.
Move, well they sold some I believe 9+Million move controllers which isn't the same but it's something.

[syanara]

And thats also hard to say because of how many move controlers there are per household comparing to one kinect camera per household

[pandaboy]

quality isn't necessarily subjective... it can be established through empirical justification without the need for personal feelings to give influence even if they happen to do so a lot of the time.

[A-Glorious-Dawn]

pandaboy is right.

Quality is not a completely subjective word.

Mcdonalds vs 5 star restaurant.

which is of a higher quality?

[mt]

I got excited for it, I bought it, tried it, hid it, never used it again. well I tried sorcery demo and I gotta say it is alright. overall I think it is failure if you are hardcore gamer, if you are casual only then it is heaven for you. so it is up to you to decide and you have the choice.

[t0mmyb0y]

Try PixelJunk's 4am. Works extremely well with it.

[mt]

@t0mmyb0y I played Killzone 3 , littlebigplanet 2 , heavy rain. and I gotta say most amazing experience i had with move was through heavy rain, although it was my third play.

[StraightPath]

Move is a massive fail. Didnt sony ev en state they could of done better with it. Kinect sales wise massive success.

[GuyThatPlaysGames]

I agree ! Both are failures !!

[Tonester925]

I think once Devs make a true 1 to 1 motion fighter THEN PS Move will shine. With online tournaments and all that good stuff.

[GribbleGrunger]

I never wanted the MOVE but I got it just so that I could get the MOVE pack for LBP2

is it a success though? yes, without a doubt. success is measured in how well it works and how many genres can incorporate it without compromising the game... so that's why it has to be seen as a success

[baodeus]

Success is not measured by it functionality but by how well it is perceived. would u think the launch of original Xbox was a success (better tech, higher quality, reliable/durable) vs PS2? Of course not don't u agree?

how well it is perceived can be measure by how popular or more directly, how much it sales.

Now why move isn't a sucess?

1. if u look at all the hard core PS fan base here, what do they say about the move?. It is "optional" right? Which mean u don't have to get it. It is not a must have like for example u must get PS3 to play the must have exclusives. Rather mean hard core couldn't careless about motion gaming.

2. What about the casual side? Move isn't marketed for casual (Sony said it aims for the core). Now why would the casual get something that looks like what they already have @ much higher price and not catering to their taste?

So if u launch a product and that is the kind of responses u get from both consumers demographic, do u think it is a sucess? I'll let u guys think about it.

[asmith2306]

I agree that it is a success, mainly because it is seen as an optional extra for the PS3. I traded mine because at the end of the day I'm not into using motion controls. The thing about it is that everything I played with the move worked flawlessly. Sony don't try to shove the move in your face, its just another capability the PS3 has that works great if you fancy it.

[jerethdagryphon]

move games and move have always been an option for devs not a requirment

if a def says hey ive this great idea for a fighting game but want to make it active they use move the next shooter guy may say my scifi shooter dont need motion controllers to work he can ignore it

its an option

[DiRtY]

Of course not it is not a success. The software for it just doesn't sell, the userbase is tiny compared to the other motion control devices in this industry (Kinect and Wii) and there is nothing on the horizon that gets anyone excited.

Sorcery should have been that game, but it failed to sell more than 70k copies WORLDWIDE.

Sports Champion 2 this year will be the final nail in the coffin with sales way below the 500k mark.

It sold about 10 million in 2 years, which is not enough to warrant any 3rd party support.

[GribbleGrunger]

sorry fella, but you've been fooled by the media. real MOVE gamers play FPS and other hard core games. only the casuals play Sorcery and the such.

[DiRtY]

So people use it as a lightgun now? Yeah that is what all the hardcore gamers did before the Move was released.

No game sold more due to optional move support and no Move controller was sold for the optional Move support.

Look at the sales numbers, you can't spin it in a positive way. Sony advertised this as a game changer and it was a failure. Nobody uses it, Nobody buys it and Nobody supports it. Just accept it and move on.

You have to watch out for the Vita not sharing the same fate.

[Trebius51]

Yeah i dont know anyone that bought move for anything other than killzone, infamous 2 or other core 1st party games that have it as an optional feature.

If Move had been heavily advertised (like near billion dollars in ads like kinect) then move wouldve sold just as well.

Just like the near billions they spend advertising Halo so it sells big numbers, all it takes is a lot of $ in ads and the masses can be convinced (or suggestively swayed) to buy anything.

[andrewf91]

I will say that there were some titles that did intrigued me when the Move first came out. Killzone 3, Sport's Champions, and SOCOM 4 had my eye on the Move but looking at it now I can just tell it felt gimmicky to have support like that for KZ3 and SOCOM 4 and certain titles being released now. I want a Move but unsure if I should really get it.

[GrandTheftZamboni]

I don't know, man. I think Move worked pretty well with both Killzone 3 and Sport's Champions.

[andrewf91]

Just to me it felt like it. This may be the case that I never went out to buy one since I expected a price drop from the move (still hasn't happen). There are still some things I would like to try from it, Portal 2 DLC, CS:GO, Okami HD. But just in the launch of the Move I felt the first few titles Move support was tacked on. Not saying I wouldn't still try it but at least it's an option for me to use if I ever decide to get a Move.

[GrandTheftZamboni]

It definitely doesn't feel gimmicky to me. I still play mostly with the Dualshock. I'm running out of space for storing all the peripherals, plus I'm usually lazy to wave my hands as lately I've playing lying down in my bed. But when I do use the Move, it feels pretty good. I would still be a happy gamer with DS only though.

[chukamachine]

All the titles i've tried work fine with move.

But you don't need it for all games.

Start the party is a family game for children/

The fight lights out i love, and works well with move.

I've tried shooters with it, and they work very well. But for that genre i prefer normal controller.

[NastyLeftHook0]

if you like the move its a success, if you dont its a failure. simple.

[Tomonobu Itagaki]

A success in term of technology, a failure in term of support.
Now Sony has to focus on that gaming glove they patented few years ago, THIS can be a real game-changer.
http://www.unwiredview.com/...

[Machioto]

What are you talking 'bout,ps move doesn't have any core exclusive coming out now but oddworld stranger's wrath,okami,unfinished swan,portal 2,ps move dlc,epic mickey2,resident evil collection and counter strike global offensive(plus keyboard &mouse) all have ps move support.

@Chunky it's only a failure if it has no support but the games I listed prove it's not and some times it's the devs fault,if you've seen ghost recon,implementation of is almost flawless but relegated to that gun shop mode and the controls can be tightened up,hopefully a patch can let move be used in the entire game.

[ChunkyLover53]

I totally see what Sony wanted to do with Move, it works fine and was a solid attempt at getting into the motion controller market. The real problem is that Sony hasn't and isn't really marketing the Move, it needed killer apps to launch with and that didn't happen.

Sorcery is a fine game, but would have really pushed Move into homes had it been a launch title. By the time the game actually released most people had forgotten about it, or lost interest altogether. Lets not forget that there was absolutely no marketing for it either.

So from where I'm standing, its a failure and it looks like Sony isn't really arguing that fact. I was actually looking forward to something for Move to be shown at E3 and all I got was Wonderbook.

I spent almost $200 on Move so my family and I could play games together, but I haven't really felt like I've gotten my monies worth.

[user5467007]

It made money, it did well in sales and Sony are happy

It was a success, not as much as Kinect but hey it's not that far off for not having 500 million spent on advertising. Sonys money went into buying Sucker Punch and honestly I think thats a better way in spending your money

[Dread]

Its a success because it is a Sony product. :)

[nevin1]

So going into next gen, what should Sony do? Should they include the package with PS4?

[BitbyDeath]

Personally i'd be happy if Sony just use Move as a stepping stone towards VR. Move won't be required if they can get VR going.

[BitbyDeath]

To be fair Sony had the advantage with having PSEye out ages ago so naturally they have progressed a bit more in terms of what can be acheived.

But neither really did that well.

[RememberThe357]

Move is a failure, Move on.

[Jazz4108]

Move was a huge failure for sony considering the dev time and the amount sold to actual people. Sony is sinking fast and I don't see a rope in site unless you count the one they keep tying around there own neck. Sony is there own worst enemy.

[RememberThe357]

I wouldn't say all that but whatever floats your boat.

[BLow]

Both, end of story. Can satisfy both sides at once...HAHA...just jokin people

[SonyStyled]

i guess it all depends who u ask. i success for those who pick it up for hardcore games such as heavy rain or killzone 3. a failure for those who choose not to use it since the first sports champions. my personal opinion is its a success in my hands. ive really enjoyed heavy rain with it, but not so much on fps's (i find the sharpshooter really hard for me)

[InTheLab]

My little boy shat himself after watching the Wonderbook demo. I'm guessing more than just my kid is interested in it so this question should be postponed till Wonderbook launches. But if I were to answer that question today, I'd say it's a failure. Socery and Deadmund are both terrible titles. Move has only a handful of Move only titles and very few uses outside of "lightgun". I'm glad Sony didn't go balls deep like MS did with Kinect, but they should have tried a little harder...especially with Sorcery. With that said, I find it sad that Move's killer app is clearly a casual title yet to be released.

It's not all bad, however...particularly with inFamous 2. I also find myself buying certain games I would have never thought of buying just to try out Move. I'm also surprised at the number of games that quietly support Move. Had no idea the latest Spiderman is Move optional.

[akaakaaka]

they are both for casuals, gimmicks...

The problem with the move was to make people think is good for hardcore games, but it ruin them, yes it work on them but ruin the gameplay experience in many hardcore games.

Hope Sony understand this! for the next gen and keep the move for casual games and leave the hardcore to the dualshock4, I mean Nintendo gets it, even M$ gets it.

my quote for for Sony,
" you can't sale a Barcelona fan a Real Madrid jersey" and that's why Sony has fail to impress with the move, people ask them self, "it's for casual, for hardcore?" it can't be for both SONY be smart next time...

[Machioto]

Go to iwaggle3d if you doubt ps move.

[akaakaaka]

I had the ps move, my gf want it, got a amazing deal for it!
I try it in many games and for me a hardcore gamer is just a gimmick, good for casual gamers and kids why not, and its where Sony fails to market it and focus on.

my hopes are that ps3 becomes cheap next year $150 bundle with the move and two casual games. (maybe $179.99)
focus on making casual move games on the ps3.

and the ps4 for the real gamers, nextgen hardcore games for it...

that will make Playstation sale like in the ps2 era and will keep the hardcore happy with the next gen games and take back a big market shear "casuals"

But I know Corp. fail to see a easy and smart move like this, they will not do this :/

[Hicken]

Yeah, it's a success. Some people will say "no" because it didn't sell like other motion-controlled products, but those people tend to forget(more like outright ignore) that the Move had a different purpose: to be an OPTION. As such, it's pretty hard to say it didn't do well.

Well, using common sense, it would be hard. But we all know not everyone does that.

[BrutallyBlunt]

Tell us Hicken, how is Kinect not an option? I don't own a Kinect yet i still use my XBOX360. I still play games like Forza without Kinect. Move was also an option with Gran Tursimo, so tell us all with your vast wisdom how Kinect isn't an option?

The big difference is Microsoft actually marketed Kinect and got people to buy it. They also managed to get developers to support it and make unique games around it. The highlight at E3 with the Playstation Move was Storybook, mind telling us how that showed the crowd any difference than what Microsoft showed at E3? Microsoft showed Kinect at this years E3 as an option. An option in games like Madden, in games like Splinter Cell.

All you are is a very biased person who seems very upset that Microsoft has managed to compete head on with Sony this generation.

The Move is more accurate but it's application is very limited because there is very limited support for it. All those tech demos when they first announced it went to the wayside because there is no backing to it. We seen great ideas like Tumble but Move failed to capture an audience. If it did maybe we would be seeing more than small scale games like Sorcery that don't really pan out in the end.

You're a complete joke, you troll articles about Steel Battalion and Kinect yet don't act like the same idiot in topics like Sorcery. Yet you whine about how hard everyone is and how the media is on Sony yet you're the buggest critic on here when it comes to Microsoft. Hypocrtite now, hypocrtite then and most likely you will remain a hypocrtite. That's the nature of being a fanboy it seems.

Is the Move a success? No, not really. If it was we'd see game publishers backing it more.

[Hicken]

Hello, I'm LevelHead.

There's something wrong with me, so I follow this Hicken guy around, treating him as the world's worst fanboy because he likes a particular company. He doesn't have to hate on any other companies; just him expressing his preference is enough for me to respond.

I don't understand that he's in articles about different games and companies because he sells video games and systems, so I'll call him hypocritical for commenting on anything that's not by his preferred company.

I'm not sure whether or not I'm a fanboy, but I do have a penchant for being unnecessarily negative, especially when Hicken's involved. Even if he says something I fundamentally agree with, I have to find SOMETHING to call him out on, which generally makes my posts sound vindictive and immature.

... maybe my head isn't so level after all.

[RedSoakedSponge]

the only time i actually really enjoyed the move controller is with LBP2. and i still pic it up to play some community move enabled levels on there once in a while.

[Getowned]

Failure, Move is too unsupported. Kinect, Failure only good feature is voice command.

I will say the Voice command is really cool, and I would like to see it more widely used in the future. I don't understand why we dont have it for PS3, We have mics too ? This is some thing I've always wanted even before Kinect came out. Not sure if this is available for PC, im sure it could be because I actually use Voice Command on my PC lol.. but if anyone knows of any games that support that on pc let me know.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Kinects voice command is definitely the highlight for the hardcore (if you can call it that). Eye toy has a mic but its just one mic, Kinect uses a 4 microphone array to better pick up your voice that and they invested heavily on their voice recognition technology. Remember MS also has its hand in the Ford Sync technology for cars so they really have invested heavily in creating great voice recognition.

[Getowned]

hmm I wonder if the PS head set would work the mic on that thing works great.. but yeah I agree, never knew about the ford thing.

[Gridloc]

Rainbow Six for Xbox used voice controll. ( open flash and clear ). Nobody remembers that? Kinect is garbage.

[hiredhelp]

Move is not a failure?
It seems some people see it that way because of why lack of games...That makes it a failure really?
The move does exactly what it was supposed to do Its fantastic design very responsive feels great to use and can be used on most style of games.
The only bad side to the Move is not enough developers are chooseing to support the move into there games thats a real shame.
So really its not the move thats a failure but the developers that fails to support it enough.

[Anon1974]

I don't know that I'd agree with developer support being lacking. Aren't there over 100 games now that support Move? Hardly seems like there's a shortage of software that utilizes the controller.

What I find interesting is that we're talking about a accessories, and if that particular accessory is a a success or not. Accessories usually rake in the cash for companies, so I can't see that this isn't anything but a win for Sony - but do we look at steering wheels and ask if they're a success? They're the same thing, just another accessory that allows gamers to play pretty much the same games but in a different way.

It's a little different with Kinect as Microsoft approached Kinect as if they were launching a new console. They said so on multiple occasions. Sony didn't really approach Move the same way. They billed it as an accessory, another way to play because that's what it is, just like a steering wheel accessory or 3d. They simply provided different ways to play and consumers ultimately responded with their wallets.

Success? Failure? The Power Glove sold something like 100k and had 2 games. That was a failure. The Sega 32x had about 5 games and sold about half a million. That was a failure. Move is close to something like 10 million with 100 games and counting. Of course it's a success.

[oldfriend86]

I have both. The move was maybe played with once and has been collecting dust since. The Kinect has seen more action, but that's not saying much. Other than Sony sucks at advertising and Microsoft throws away so much money for promotion, is why Kinect sees more spotlight.

Now about the actual hardware, Move just seemed to be copying the Wii (experience wise), only trying to be better (and it was more responsive). But not many games called for it, it's expensive to add another player, and besides that Wonder Book crap at E3, I thought Sony forgot about it. Kinect was just an overpriced camera, but you only needed one and a LARGE, well lit livingroom. The experience was unique, even though Sony had the EyeToy first. And those damn dance games are too popular, and the 360 and Wii versions were preferred.

Ignoring the wall of text, if you give me Skyrim with Move compatability, I was love the Move. Look, it's either that, or the Wonder Book to look forward to and i know all of you are just drooling over that.

[ShaunCameron]

A failure. It turned out to be an expensive Wii rip-off that for all the things it actually it did have over the Wii, it went to waste with not having any notable software to show it in its best light.

[kma2k]

Ironically i got the most use out of my move controller using it as a hilt for playing Kinect Star wars lol At the end of the day from a gaming perspective there both failures i rarely use either!

[chrispen9]

Same! It was excellent with Kinect Star Wars. Lol

[Adolph Fitler]

Sony are usually all for getting the most out of games & encouraging developers to do new things, but since the gfc started, they have slowly changed into a company that are just like the other 2, where money is there ONE & ONLY primary concern. Look for Sony to shut down, or shuffle around the developers at Team Ico if Guardians doesn't sell well.

Move is an awesome alternate to our usual gaming cotroller, but what the hell is going on with boxing & fighting games not implementing this thing. Move is custom made for a game like this. Sony have only themselves to blame for Move not being all it could be at this stage. It's had time to develop, & a mascot based platformer game being soley developed for exclusive Move use, should have already happend, & as I said, a boxing game or three, & some Tekken, SF style fighters are what Move is made for.

There would be nothing better than playing a Fight Night, or Fight Night-esque boxing game, that has 1:1 Move enables accuracy enabled. Damn, The Fight: Lights Out is a great Move title in this regard, but was slammed pretty hard & unfairly by critics & such, as they did not put the time in to build up a character to get him moving faster & with more accuracy, power & other attributes you had to build upon like Fight Night......which the developers screwed up for not just letting the game rely on the end users natural abilities & fitness levels to play the game with. This way, if your too slow, you practise to get faster, if your too unfit to go a few rounds in a fight, you will have to play more to get fitter......and, etc, etc, the list goes on, but, point is that there is no better an example of how good Move can be, than a boxing, or underground streetfighting game.

[superterabyte]

The problem with playstation move is that many games require multiple move controllers.
This has been an issue for me as I only got the one controller in the starter pack.
It's difficult to justify paying £40 for a new move controller when on the face of it, it seems that the only game worth playing with the move which isn't already out is sports champions 2.

[Rock_On_PS4]

Both PS Move and Kinect are huge successes that have pushed both PS3 and X360 ahead of the Wii in annual sales over the last 2 or 3 years.

PS Move and Kinect are picking up sales from the casual gamer market that makes up the majority of console system sales.

[artsaber]

No Star Wars jedi-based lightsaber game in HD is lacking. No Ninja Gaiden slasher, no Fruit Ninja Move Edition... I wouldn't say Move is a failure, but a disappointing library is akin to a lack of support. The only Move game I'm interested in right now is Sports Champions 2, and that is sad.

IMO Kinect doesn't work as well as many thought and encourages rail gaming too much. But I wouldn't call it a failure because fun can be had with the devices.

[Sharingan_no_Kakashi]

Personally I think Move is pretty nifty device. There aren't many exclusive games for it but there are lots of games with move support and it works well. Killzone, Resistance, Infamous, socom, mag and a lot of third party games as well. And they're core games. Plus exclusives like the fight, sorcery, sports champions and more to come make the move pretty successful. Future move games include bioshock, counter strike, okami hd, epic mickey 2 and lots more. So yea I think it's pretty successful.

[mochachino]

Move is a failure, shame because it had a lot of gaming potential.

I still think it's faster and way more accurate for FPS games when implemented properly but Sony's support (like a surprising number of there products) was half-assed.

If MS released Move I think motion gaming could have gone somewhere, they at least give things a hundred percent support (and at least a hundred million dollars).

[Smokingunz]

Yes, it's a failure!!!!

[Shotcalm]

failure so far. Doesn't seem like they have made a good game that works for it yet...

[FinaLXiii]

that´s kinect...

[PersonMan]

To me it was a failure. I didn't like it. I'm sure there are plenty who do though.

Not my cup o' tea as they say.

[FinaLXiii]

PS Move as many good cool games but the problem is that there´s already to many games on the market.